And still with a manual gearbox!

The EU : let me find a way to kill your joy. In france for the automatic 2.0l it will 10k€ of ecological taxe. We are saving the world

Cheap is debatable, but I get what you're saying.

@@nickzarnetske9994cheap isn’t debatable, it’s a flat out lie

Cheap?

Like SCC magazine dave coleman?

I could listen to Dave Coleman geek out about the Miata for ages.

Yeah that was cool! It's like Dave consultations come with every Miata purchase!

@@dennisrainville1809 people forget the pleasure of sub 3000 lbs car. They are nimble & balanced plus you learn and work with the car to maintain speed. All the sensations are transmitted vs numbed. We can even floor the car and enjoy accelerating for more than 3 seconds. I traded an Alfa Romeo Ti for BRZ. I needed room for subwoofer but the ND2 or 3 is better sports car.

100%

Exactly. I love bikes and had one when I was overseas. Miata is the closest you can get while having crumple zones and air bags.

Literally buying a miata next year because my partner and my family would much rather see me on four wheels than two, and some bigger bikes already hit the prices of a base miata, may as well.

I mean yes, but a bike at 1/3 of the price outperform the car. It’s a different experience

Same boat. Got hit by a car a few years ago, and my family begged me to stop riding. I first got a Honda Fit, which was my intro to manual, and now I've got an NB Miata. My motorcycle passion is slowly turning into driving passion in this thing!

My father also told just like that, when he drove my MX5. Feels like safe motorcycle

Congrats!!

I also ordered a 24 ND3 RF Club. Absolutely love it (except for going back in at 800 miles for cracked AC pipe).

@@tailsneon556 that’s epic!

@@JustinHEMI05 they still have the cracked AC charge pipe issue on the newer ones? ah man.

Theirs also almost no cars in that price range with fuel economy, driving experience, and aftermarket support at that level. Its basically the ultimate enthusiast car.

I’d also like to add that the Miata community is one of the most kind communities to be a part of. Everyone is super helpful, you’ll rarely find anyone with a big ego or wanting to show off. Overall a good bunch of folks.

You'll love it. I had a 2019 RF and I sold it last year due to family changes. I love the RF. The look, the security of the hard top, all of it. I really miss it! Saving for another one now.

You won’t regret it!

@@grazamatazI’m on RF #2 now. Had an ND1 RF then went to M2 Comp then right back to ND2 RF!

but soft top looks better imo

@@tinhinnh it’s great to have opinions!

I love how car companies much bigger than Mazda are like “we can’t afford to develop a low volume sports car.” Meanwhile, Mazda is giving us this special thing on budget.

@@kc510 tbh I think part of why Mazda has been putting out great products is that they have nailed working around a tighter budget and scope vs the bigger brands. “Limitations breed creativity” and all that.

And it's a better looking car!

He fell from a palm tree whilst looking for the best spanish bananas.

Best stated comment here.

same here

Like a boob tube. 🙂

That top is so slick as long as you have some shoulder mobility.

I'm with you on that! The world needs yet more 800 HP 6,000 pound monsters! I mean, sure, the 104,000 miles on my 2016 Miata notwithstanding, what I've really wanted for all those years is a vehicle that weighs three times as much and shreds tires in a few thousand miles. Get out of my way peasants!

Yes I also want to see which car is preferred for plowing through a school zone

@@Courtesyflush52one that has specific school zone terrain modes ideally…

@@Courtesyflush52 I think we all know it's the Ford Mustang GT.

They are in their element… when leaving school zones and coffee meet ups.

Initial D sound track!

Yeah, man, a badge in a DIGITAL gauge cluster is what I really want.

Coleman might be the most effective PR guy right now working for any automaker that sells in the US.

Tough choice. But you win either way!

I’m also a future BRZ limited owner. I think every BRZ/86 owners deep down would rather have an ND Miata if practicality was no issue, it’s more pure, less weight, more fun period.

@@Gurka84 You might be right, at least a good chunk of us. I previously had an NB Miata and a 986 Boxster. Top down on a beautiful back road is hard to beat.

@@patricklinkous fastback coupes are the stiff, efficient aerodynamically and good looking choice. I'm kind of recluctant to admit it, but you're right; Open top is way more fun on a good road. And fun is kind of the whole point.

@@colinbowman8816 As you said earlier, you win either way. Both have their advantages and I'm thrilled with my BRZ.

That's a sweet car.

Nice depreciation hit on the M2

@@jamievidd775 lol k.

I'm getting rid of my c63 amg 507 for a gr86 trueno

So I guess maybe I should not trade my 23 ND2 RF for a 2024 M2? I was thinking it might be more fun to drive especially with the manual. You’re making a valid point and you’re right about reaching the limits for a Miata and trying to enjoy the M2 without getting caught for speeding. I love driving my manual Miata but the M2 is larger and safer and more practical. Performance wise it seems like it would be fun to drive. However, the Miata is very tight inside and seems better as more of a weekend car. Don’t you think the M2 is more functional as a daily and more comfortable overall as your only car? I want a fun to drive car as a daily and the Miata seems too small and UNSAFE? I wish it was about the size of a Boxster but the same price! The Mustang is nice but too heavy and large. Handling not speed is my main interest. Plus I want a manual.

@@rembo183 if it's your only car no question M2 is better for a daily. You're just going to be disappointed. It's not fun driven slow and it's isolated.

Sport Compact Car OG reader here!

I sold the GR86 for the same reasons you mentioned. I got a Supra but want to put a ND3 next to it for pure garage perfection.

@@milesfathi yeaaah the Miata it's the most raw new car (the new S2K with air intake and exhaust)😎👌🏻

No blowing engine but might blow transmission 😂 (both issues are overblown).

And I would never sell my 2023 BRZ for a Miata lol

@@moldyrefrigerator both are the best Sport RWD cars! The twins are more track and practical orientated, the Miata more back roads/canyon's and feeling the enviroment🌳🏝️☀️ 😎

"favorite child" 😂 love that you don't deny it

@@svgPhoenix my heart is a two seater :))

just be aware to not rail third or fourth gear too hard or you will need to replace two transmissions in a year like me :) , FYI mine is a 2023, idk why the trans is still so fragile

@@jameschan5128 thanks for the tip! I do try to pay attention with the shifts but my rev matching is shit right now. On a transmission related note: i changed into 2nd instead of 4th from 6th twice on my first trip outside of town. It seems i pulled the knob too hard in my direction. I will definitely ruin it if that keeps happening. Do you track your car?

Great points

Agreed. At this point even regular cars are pretty much unobtainable so I have even less desire to watch video after video of high end vehicles. Savage Geese and Throttle House are my go to creators. But I do find myself watching less and less as the days go on.

​@@demwillams8898same. I can't get excited over the latest 250k Porsche or 150k Vette. Unobtanium for most of us.

I only watch when they have on normal, affordable, accessible cars. Waste of time otherwise imo to learn about something I'll never see or drive

Except Lotus's are 800lbs heavier than Miatas

The original Lotus Elan was clearly the influence for the MX-5

“I like the Miata because I’m not totally not gay” my how times have changed

@@larrylampshade1734 how many people actually experince much greater rate of escaping danger with more power? id say its pretty rare even among sports car drivers at the track

You're all for the ND3 because you frost others' hair for a living.

@@tvrbob8681 - that did genuinely make me laugh. Well done

@@tvrbob8681best comment 👊🏻

Is RF really quieter on highways than the soft-top? Some people say there is barely any difference.

@@khelgarironfist3301, yes, it is - this was/is one of the reasons I liked/like the RF more and I bought one. People don't know that a 3dB noise difference means the doubling of the noise.

This a must have "mod". I have one too and it is super helpful. Love it!

@@joshuaciccoricco2947 i bought the stubby for like $20 and this console caddy for $30. End of mods needed.

Which organizer do you have that has 2 cup holders? I only see the ones with 1 cup holder

No-one at my local track looks down on my Miata. I'm surrounded by guys who: - Turbo'd a Miata without upgrading the brakes or tyres and went straight into the gravel trap - Juiced 500hp out of a GTI but gets fuel starvation going up the hill - Modified an already powerful 6cyl car and now can't complete three laps without overheating NOR drive it on the street any more - Has to alternate hot laps and cooldown laps in his modified Evo and so on, and I'm just out there ripping every session with basic handling upgrades and minimal running costs. I think they're mostly jealous.

Mazda is small too…

And both are parented by Toyota. The grand daddy of big car companies lol

​@@Accost2uthey aren't. Toyota has stake at both, but both are very much independent companies.

Yeah kudos for never putting the 2.5 sti engine in the brz.

@@user-su1kp7nh7c Subaru could have had made spun rod bearings cool again in the BRZ.

Ah, yes, the GTR-86…my favorite.

@@Barbwire710 LMAO I just corrected that

It does look pretty nice

Wow! The 2ss 1LE is suppose to be a great handling car. How is the miata in cruising on the highway? Do you get road fatigue?

@@Platos-Den It is a great handling car, and I would have kept both if I had the money and space. I just found I preferred the lightweight feeling of the Miata (no matter how good the handling, the Camaro always felt big). I haven't really had the Miata on the highway, as I try to actively avoid them when I drive. The most time I've spent in the Miata is about a two hour stretch, and I didn't find it fatiguing at all. I have the trim with the Recaro seats if that makes any difference.

yep, mine was 2nd gear. dumped it last week b4 it shit the bed. worst car i ever owned

covid supply example? my 2019 is at 40k

@@lawrencelin272 I think it's just luck whether you got a stable one or not, a ton of 2021's are tracked heavily without the issues i'm facing

I'm about at the point with my BRZ. Looking into an Elantra N or a GR Corolla.

Have you ever considered that YOU have needs?

Plenty of time to get back into one later

@@joe718gt4 that is how I see it. I was not pushes to sell the car, it was just the right thing to do. Some years down the road I may get a Miata or similar.

@@aygwm oh I absolutely do. But I also prioritize them accordingly. And if life allows I will get some nice 2 seater later down the road.

I'm 6'3" and fit in the Miata. Not well mind you, but it seems a stretch that you can't fit. The biggest issue with me is that the shifter feels to close, pushing my elbow way back.

You should probably strike Subaru off that list.

I miss Honda

@@aygwm true if reliability is a priority. But they are hard to beat for utility.

Ignore these ding songs. Subarus are not as reliable as Toyotas. 100% true. They are maybe 0.2-0.6% less reliable overall. If they make a car you want, buy it. Ignore these clowns talking crap out of their ass. Subaru makes longitudinally aligned cars, with a lot of utility and a lot of character. They’re generally well designed, and definitely well made. Toyota does do better, but there are compromises in buying a beige, FWD transportation appliance. Don’t listen to idiots. Choose a reputable brand - which you’ve already done - and buy what you want.

kirk kierfields youttube reveiws a magazine that leaks toyoat etc plans which have been largley accurate. they say 2 lite inline 4 turbo mr2 is coming. electric version is higehr pwoer, already conifrmed officially. im hoping for inline 3

As nd owner i agree i also go grocery shopping for 2 every 2 weeks in mine and every yime i have a shopping cart full of shit I doubt itll fit it all and then it does

@@NuclearRoll I think the most unfortunate thing is the size of the opening. Girlfriend or or I will hold the toilet paper if we get toilet paper or paper towels on the same trip to Costco. In the market for another car since the dog doesn't quite fit comfortably in it but for now I have an MR2 with no passenger seat. I wish they sold the Suzuki Swift here but Note, Fit, SX4, Rio, Fiat and Mazda2 are kind of being floated for road trips. Prius might be viable but we'll see. Might be nicer for buying mulch too lol

@jinxtacy mazda 3s seem great from everyone ive heard, honestly i prefer specialization, i like having my fun car and a cheap work car, i think a nd2 and an older pickup would be the dream team combo i also wish they were sold here tho

@@NuclearRoll I've looked at the 2000 Tacomas but still think a 50 lb dog would be happier in a car with a little bit more room. If I ever get the space I'd like to have a truck on hand just for to do truck stuff but I have zero desire to commute in one. Probably shouldn't be driving around in a 30-year-old Toyota though as the daily.

I actually felt that the NC also had sticky on center feel.

"Today I am taking you to Futurama"

I want an ND because I miss my old NA.

I want my ND2 back that I sold

After my NB, the ND feels like a dog, totally disconnected.

@@andycalifornia426 you can add modifications to the ND to make it really come alive like coilovers and stiffer sway bars. If I could do it again I would add the least stiff coilovers to maintain its playful character and make it enjoyable for the street. I do want to K swap an NB Miata though!

If you have a partner with an SUV the Miata can totally be your daily driver!

@@joshuaciccoricco2947 My partner has a regular sedan. We're DINKs so really an SUV isn't needed and she doesn't want one. You can borrow a truck for like $20 at home depot if you're trying to move something bigger really quick.

@@joshuaciccoricco2947 most of the people absolutely don't need SUV for a daily driver.

*me staring at the screen in the same manner, because my Miata is my only car* :D

​@joshuaciccoricco2947 My partner does not even drive or have a license. I will never own an SUV.

I remember the NA had a shooting brake concept. I would've bought that in a heartbeat!