Member CURSES EVERYONE! Jung Kooks REPLY To MASS UNFOLLOWING Over Smoking Outside Restaurant? SUES!

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Hey Dumplings, today I want to get into #Kpop news, specifically more #BTS news. I want to get into V basically cursing out and what happened. I want to get into Jung Kook apparently responding to smoking and what happened. And then legal action asked to be taken. Let me know what you think and drop your thoughts down below.
0:00 Table of Contents
0:23 Legal Action Asked To Be Taken
4:00 Member Curses Everyone Out
6:00 Jung Kook Gets Backlash and His possible Response.
9:29 What You Can Do Next To Support
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@nicolecapers6714
@nicolecapers6714 8 ай бұрын
Smoking is gross, in my opinion, and will never be appealing no matter who's doing it. I'm sure Kookie is aware of the health risks. His body, his choice. I still support his artistry, and will pray for his health.
@OfficialSayalife
@OfficialSayalife 8 ай бұрын
❤❤ur a true fan
@DaveDisci
@DaveDisci 8 ай бұрын
@marinapanayiotou9767
@marinapanayiotou9767 8 ай бұрын
THANK U FINALLY IN TIK TOM EVERYONE IS SAYING THAT HE IS HOTTER when smoking isnt hot he already was hot and he doesnt need to smoke to be hot no one does his choices his life praying for his health
@pamelaJoyce384
@pamelaJoyce384 5 ай бұрын
I agree with what you are saying. Smoking is unappealing and yes I’m sure he is aware of the risks. You stated well.
@faithbeharry5787
@faithbeharry5787 8 ай бұрын
people have to accept the fact that kpop idols are grown ass adults and not a teenager anymore, and that they can make their own decisions and live how they want to.
@DaveDisci
@DaveDisci 8 ай бұрын
i agree with this
@Safiyak07
@Safiyak07 8 ай бұрын
I don't think it was that surprising that a 26 year old is living his life.. No one's telling how he was recorded without his permission secretly, imagine someone recording u without telling u, how horrible is that.. we love you jungkook!
@DaveDisci
@DaveDisci 8 ай бұрын
@ann_elsaann2785
@ann_elsaann2785 8 ай бұрын
i lub u and i also think that armies need to stop babysit them!
@marciamuller9598
@marciamuller9598 8 ай бұрын
Smoking is not good for your health, but turning it into a scandal and having people adopt the cancel policy because of it is far more toxic behavior than smoking, as it demonstrates the inability to accept that idols are normal people. I think idols have the right to make their own choices, they are adults and masters of their own lives. Love from Brazil 💜
@YOonGiDivOrSeMe
@YOonGiDivOrSeMe 8 ай бұрын
I agreed 👍
@Invisbletoyou.
@Invisbletoyou. 8 ай бұрын
I agree and whoever record that video should learn to give him privacy wth💀
@marciamuller9598
@marciamuller9598 8 ай бұрын
@@Invisbletoyou. totally agree 💜🇧🇷
@smiley_kookie
@smiley_kookie 8 ай бұрын
I agree. Sometimes in life, we may not like others people's actions but we can't do anything because they have the right to make choices about their own life. We learn from our mistakes and become better from that
@gunjanmahor2150
@gunjanmahor2150 8 ай бұрын
People are disappointed because he was caught smoking weeds not normal cigarette
@iscan31
@iscan31 8 ай бұрын
Smoking and performing don't go together. They will be out of breath but... they are adults, they know the risks, they do what they want. We must say nothing and respect their choice. It's their life, not ours.
@DaveDisci
@DaveDisci 8 ай бұрын
@whippedforjungkook
@whippedforjungkook 8 ай бұрын
Let Jungkook be free to live his life how he wants to not condemn him for his personal choices
@dahliafortes958
@dahliafortes958 8 ай бұрын
Exactly...if he did smoke, so what ! It's probably just a casual now and then type of thing, but it's no one's business
@donnapetersen8433
@donnapetersen8433 8 ай бұрын
Oh good grief…they’re grown men now & are going to do grown men things. What BTS & any other celebrity’s do in their private lives is their own business & not any of ours! Put yourselves in their place, how would you feel if your fans were criticizing every little thing you do? Wouldn’t feel so great would it?
@BenildeMoreno
@BenildeMoreno 8 ай бұрын
You don't know what you're saying. Smoking is NOT a persinal choice. It's pure slavery. He won't be free to live his life is he goes ahead with it.
@mi-kyong423
@mi-kyong423 8 ай бұрын
@@aishakistomony in the same way blackpink are not robot who will perform every week on same boring ass song..let them live their life too and also i agree with you..stay healthy
@dysieau743
@dysieau743 8 ай бұрын
​@BenildeMoreno smoking is a personal choice..
@deyamar
@deyamar 8 ай бұрын
Personally i dont like smoke, but i respect everybody, if jk, v, suga,rm,jhope,jin,jimin wants to do it its up to them, they pay their own bills, pay their own food, they are adults and they do not owed anybody any explanation. They are artist and their artistry doesnt get less good by doing what they want.
@Invisbletoyou.
@Invisbletoyou. 8 ай бұрын
Same!!
@chequenemenzo5138
@chequenemenzo5138 8 ай бұрын
Yeah true ❤❤❤
@elizabethbottroff1218
@elizabethbottroff1218 8 ай бұрын
​​@@janesunderhaus5519 Yes, that's my concern for all seven of them -- the voices and the lungs. My late grandfather was in the Navy in WWII. He started the war as a nonsmoker. In the Navy, it was often, "hurry up and wait." Most of the guys that he served with would pull out a pack of cigarettes whenever they were sitting around. He picked up the habit. Grandma told the story about enjoying some time with him when he was on leave from the ship. He was a young and healthy man. He was used to having no limits. The two of them saw a hill; and they decided to climb up to the top of it to have their picnic lunch. Grandpa was surprised and disgusted at himself that he was out of breath when he got to the top of what should have been an easy climb. Out of habit, once stopped, he pulled out a cigarette. Grandma shared how his face looked when he looked down at the cigarette and made the connection. "These #$^*& things have me winded!" ...he shouted with disgust. She says that he tossed it down without smoking it. He never smoked another cigarette in his life, even when he went back to the fleet for the rest of the war. It's far healthier and safer to never give into the temptation in the first place. Some people are unable to stop, once they start.
@Stephanie-qw5lf
@Stephanie-qw5lf 8 ай бұрын
Fr, this goes for all artists, whatever the consequences they face for their choices, it’s their own and doesn’t include fans.
@deyamar
@deyamar 8 ай бұрын
@@Stephanie-qw5lf exactly but we are talking here about tae and jk
@ibeg2differ
@ibeg2differ 8 ай бұрын
It's so sad to see how immature ARMYies can be... And how scary that the overflowing love can brew into an unwarranted hate storm in a blink... C'mon ARMY we should know better by now, let's think before doing something that can cause serious damage to all 7 of our boys... They don't deserve this!
@mi-kyong423
@mi-kyong423 8 ай бұрын
unwarranted?? then the hate jennie got before she even debuted or now is unwarrented ..
@DaveDisci
@DaveDisci 8 ай бұрын
you are absolutely correct
@tddungie5900
@tddungie5900 8 ай бұрын
They think that have complete control over them if they are a fan like bruhh yur parents gave birth to you but they don't have complete control in whatever you do and you yourself know that you don't liked to be judged just leave my boys alone and enjoy their music. GET A LIFE 😏🥱
@paulashelley3753
@paulashelley3753 8 ай бұрын
I think the smoking issue for idols is more complex than it appears. Yes, these are young adults, NOT engaged in illegal activities. However, unlike drinking, which if enjoyed in moderation does not pose a health risk, smoking, in any amount, be it tobacco, vaping, or marijuana is unhealthy, and is particularly damaging to the vocal cords, (making it ill advised for a professional singer) and causes cancer. Those are facts, not my opinion. Smoking at a young age is particularly damaging. (My husband smoked from age 16-30, stopped for decades and began again in his mid forties. He died of lung cancer at age 54!) Idols ARE role models, whether they like it or not, it comes with the territory. So if I were the parent of a teenager who idolized singers who smoked, I'd be concerned too.
@mybirdiee
@mybirdiee 8 ай бұрын
I was really depressed for a while and I smoked for 6 days straight then I realized how it makes breathing more difficult. imagine how damaging it can be for a singer and dancer who needs to be healthy to have a long lasting career. it is not a crime for sure but it is harmful for him and his younger fans. personally, whenever I see someone smoking I can't help wanting to smoke again although I am not addicted to it.
@renee9959
@renee9959 8 ай бұрын
@@mybirdieeJungkook is not responsible for anyone's kids that aren't his own, and he's not responsible for triggering anyone's addictions.
@foxstudios69
@foxstudios69 8 ай бұрын
​@@renee9959that is not the point, did you even read the comment
@paulashelley3753
@paulashelley3753 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for reading it.
@user-ts6ch7ev3p
@user-ts6ch7ev3p 8 ай бұрын
Very true, Yes I love JK and I’m afraid of what his health esp voice/vocal cords will be in the future. Singing is his passion, his treasure and his wealth so he better needs to take care of his health. True Fans will really be concerned for you JK. Smoking (or vaping) in general is bad no matter how old or young a person is. Lung cancer, oral/throat cancer, respiratory complications, tooth cavities, vascular complications are caused by smoking. We don’t want that to happen to you our beloved idol JK.
@sentientplant9658
@sentientplant9658 8 ай бұрын
My whole thing was yes, he did say he hated that his dad smoked, but now, I wonder what changed for him. Obviously it's none of my business so whatever. I do not support smoking; secondhand smoke/vape clouds have made me very sick in the past and when I'm stressed out I can't breathe, so I personally cannot imagine being so stressed to the point of smoking because if I did that my lungs would completely give up😂 But JK is grown. He knows what he's doing and he's not encouraging others to do it, and he isn't affecting me whatsoever cuz I'm definitely never gonna meet any member of BTS. But the people romanticizing him smoking have been giving me off vibes since they've taken over my Twitter timeline. Highly doubt he's doing it to be "sexy" you freaks. And people seem to forget we don't have to agree with everything they do, but we don't have to shit on them for it. If they wanna quit bad habits, they will. They are their own people, just like we are our own people. I am very tired of everyone smoking/vaping in general because it sucks and you look dumb sucking on a thumb drive, but unfortunately it's not going away anytime soon. So be it.
@smiley_kookie
@smiley_kookie 8 ай бұрын
Personally, I don't like when people smoke too. It's bad for our health. I don't agree with his choices but Jungkook is an adult which means he will take responsibility for his own actions. Sometimes, the environment also can influence that action such as stress, bad circle of people, curiosity, etc.
@2tbos
@2tbos 8 ай бұрын
Well said
@sarahshaw0613
@sarahshaw0613 8 ай бұрын
Smoking will damage his voice and then he won't be able sing as amazingly as he does, so I hope he doesn't smoke but it's his choice. 💜💜💜
@elizabethbottroff1218
@elizabethbottroff1218 8 ай бұрын
I hope that JK is not tempted to smoke nor vape. He has an amazing voice that will take him far in life. He also clearly enjoys being able to, "play," with his vocal instrument when he's in the recording studio. There's a lot of peer pressure to use nicotine and other substances to self-medicate. He needs to remember that it is a sneaky form of passive aggressive coercion that others are using against him. They can possibly get him into trouble back home, giving them something to gossip about. Also, they all know that only a rare few are capable of singing like him, so they secretly relish polluting him, and possibly harming him, to bring him down to their level. Smoking will also potentially affect his performance during military enlistment, and then be an issue when trying to get through three hour live concerts full of difficult choreography, once the group reunites in 2025. He's a grown adult. He can make his own choices. But he has so much to potentially lose personally, setting aside the idol image nonsense, that it could be the worst thing that he does. Adding in his time in Los Angeles as a guy with South Korea as a home; I sincerely hope that he abstains from any temptation to use weed in any form, legal or otherwise.
@foxstudios69
@foxstudios69 8 ай бұрын
I agree with you, just because he's a grown man doesn't mean he should make life threatening choice for now and the future. I hope his not addicted because his health can be affected quickly even before 2025
@2tbos
@2tbos 8 ай бұрын
Very well said
@Caaarooo_0
@Caaarooo_0 8 ай бұрын
I’m sure he’s been smoking for years though , it’s not a new thing. It’s just now he is finally brave enough to show this to you. You can tell he is still very self conscious and uneasy as he knows he’s being filmed and it’s gonna blow up on Internet.
@vickim5339
@vickim5339 8 ай бұрын
I can't begin to imagine the pressure cooker lives these guys have. Everyone is constantly watching them, waiting for a misstep to call them out on. Let's see, they can't have opinions, they can't have girlfriends or boyfriends, they can't be a normal weight, they can't smoke, drinking is ok but don't get drunk. They are expected to just smile and be grateful! Smoking can really help relieve stress and suppress the appetite; it's also a social activity. They know it's bad for their health, but a person needs what a person needs. Leave them be. Celebrate their creativity. Love them for who they are.
@mmladyblue8
@mmladyblue8 8 ай бұрын
👍. Live and let live.
@mohinibindal6561
@mohinibindal6561 8 ай бұрын
Kookie please 🙏 don't smoke. We love you. Be healthy and safe. May God bless you.
@desireepalmer1555
@desireepalmer1555 8 ай бұрын
I just thinks it's odd for a person claiming he is smell "sensitive " to be smoking.🤔🤨
@katiejamieson8347
@katiejamieson8347 8 ай бұрын
As an ex smoker, we can't smell it until we stop 😂😂
@2tbos
@2tbos 8 ай бұрын
A lot of people are allergic to smoking. My mother died from second hand smoke
@kesianapalmer2262
@kesianapalmer2262 8 ай бұрын
Live and let live, smoking doesn’t change who he is, talented in both singing and dancing, gorgeous to look at and someone who has contributed a fair part of his life to all Army and beyond. Him and all the BTS members cannot be faulted in all their contributions on a global platform. Smoking is his personal choice, respect it and respect him. Their are far worse issues to contend with in the world, open your eyes. BTS4e❤er
@sowo7136
@sowo7136 8 ай бұрын
Are you Jain by chance?this is the motto of Jainism.
@jenniferbate-mz3yl
@jenniferbate-mz3yl 8 ай бұрын
Amen! I’m a 2 cig a day gal with my morning coffee. If ARMY or fans believe that idols are perfect 🤩 little stars that are doing their nightly face routine and in bed alone by 8pm, have never kissed anyone, never had sex, thought about sex, had a cig to try it out or just do it casually at events… Are kidding themselves! Said in love not war peeps
@blu-steel22
@blu-steel22 8 ай бұрын
PEACE AND LOVE GAL🤞
@adine_gren9211
@adine_gren9211 8 ай бұрын
Why is smoking a scandal? And why is dating a scandal? Fans need to know their boundaries. Being their fans do not give you the right to control their life. You have no right to cage them or boxed them up. You can’t dictate what you want them to be and what you don’t them want to be. You do not dictate who the person they should date or love. They are humans just like you! They know what they are doing. Do not mother them ! They have their parents to do that. If you are a fan, only their artistry and their music should matter, not their personal life. It seems like many think that by doing what they’re doing, these artistes will be forced to do something against their will. Put yourself in their shoes and imagine that you are the one in their shoes, and be the in the receiving end of these fans’ awful behavior. I am certain you would prefer to see your idols in all honest and truest behavior as they really are, than one who projects oneself as good, innocent and perfect only to find out that everything was not what what he presented to be. Why? Just to please you! They are grown men, and can make their own decisions. So if you are truly a fan, love them sincerely, support them all the way, and be happy for them, for their achievements, and be there along with them in their life’s journey without judgement!
@jrscott4768
@jrscott4768 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Dave. I have said it before and I will say it again, BTS, was never part of these rumors until they started doing solos. People they are grown men and can live how they want, get over it, they are not in the box you wanted them to be in. ❤
@DaveDisci
@DaveDisci 8 ай бұрын
@angelisara945
@angelisara945 8 ай бұрын
Jungkook smoking surely made headlines among his fans. But he is well aware of what he is doing, so, he knows his health better than anyone else. I hope he will sing beautifully forever without having any problems. I want him to be healthy and singing beautiful songs until he reaches 80's
@genciebowlin9477
@genciebowlin9477 8 ай бұрын
Whether a person smokes or not is an individual's choice. I smoked for many years and I was so happy when I gave it up. I would not go so far to say I don't care if JK smokes or not, because I do care. My daughter smokes but I wish she would give it up. Smoking is very addictive and it is not a matter of saying I will quit tomorrow because most people will find themselves reaching for that cigarette. It is truly a struggle once you become addicted to smoking, so for his health and before it becomes a real habit, I hope he will choose not to smoke. It may be he is under a lot of stress and he feels this helps him to cope. I just want him to be happy and healthy.😊
@cocopoco7140
@cocopoco7140 8 ай бұрын
A selfish person who doesn't care about secondhand smoke or the disgusting medical costs to society
@sanvisingh7596
@sanvisingh7596 8 ай бұрын
It is absolutely ridiculous that how big this has become. He is 26 for god's sake and people on the internet are acting as if they own him or something is absolute nuts..dude lets be clear that as a matter of fact WE OWE THEM RESPECT due to their unwavering efforts and hardwork throughout the course of the past 10years. Im 16 and according to me i still got more sense than these people sitting behind the screen with the only motive to demean and defame him as his success is too hard for them to swollow. ITS HIS CHOICE.PERIODT and he can do whatever he wants......actually the real problem here is "Hes an idol" ..people think that idols are just mere puppets that are meant to be walking on the traditional set of instructions laid down by the netizens..well im sorry to break it to you that its really so frustrating...they say that "we can record them as they are public figures" they chose to be public figures and not robots that they should live their lives on your instructions. The internet is too polluted these days i swear to god. #idols_not_puppets #protectjk
@jeontaekook1594
@jeontaekook1594 8 ай бұрын
8:19 videos were posted, it’s confirmed, he was smoking. He seemed aware he was being filmed and just didn’t care. I’m trying to be supportive but it’s hard considering I’ve grown up in a lifestyle of no smoking, this hurts my heart. What hurts too is that I’ve talked so highly abt the members to my family, if they see this kind of behavior from them I feel like they’d look down on me and be disappointed in what I support. I don’t know how to feel abt this honestly. I know it’s his life he’s 26 he can do whatever he wants, but it hurts seeing him do things like this. There are other ways to deal with stress, I believe smoking increases stress and can only numb it for like a day. Please don’t hate on me this is just my opinion. I still support Bts I’m just hurt 😔
@soumitradas8309
@soumitradas8309 8 ай бұрын
May be he will take drugs also someday😮😮😮 Of course it is his choice but it really hurts
@katiejamieson8347
@katiejamieson8347 8 ай бұрын
Really😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@tannies_6137
@tannies_6137 8 ай бұрын
​​@@soumitradas8309Bruh tf?💀🗿Most Koreans smoke
@Simply_supernatural
@Simply_supernatural 8 ай бұрын
I agree...I'm not happy knowing that he smokes I love him and his voice..but ultimately it's his choice it's his life ..the only actual problem here is him being stalked and fans sharing his private video of smoking and calling it hot and cool
@Jeonkookie0T7
@Jeonkookie0T7 8 ай бұрын
Hope not
@rainterror2348
@rainterror2348 8 ай бұрын
I hope he isn't a smoker because it will negatively impact his career also due to the affects it has on the body. With that said, it is his choice to make! I continue to support and appreciate the talent of all the members.
@thedebbxbdhhdhdhzjgghggyhg1499
@thedebbxbdhhdhdhzjgghggyhg1499 8 ай бұрын
I have a couple of my family members that died of cancer-brought on by smoking. I hope BTS all stop-I want them to live in good health
@maryr1905
@maryr1905 8 ай бұрын
Me too - and some were not very old. Left behind broken- hearted young children and spouses. High price to pay for a choice that became an addiction.
@YOonGiDivOrSeMe
@YOonGiDivOrSeMe 8 ай бұрын
Ukw.I also thik the same.but many Army's thinks like we're invading into their personal life and troubling them😢
@user-zd2mi4lp7z
@user-zd2mi4lp7z 8 ай бұрын
Je ne penses pas que c’ est rentré dans leur vie priver oui si la personne a pris la video sans sa permission oui c’ est quand même ça. Mais les gens qui disent qu’ il est un adulte ont raison mais ce n’ est parce que tu n’ est plus mineur que tu devrais faire ça . C’ est vrai qu’ il est stresser mais il y a sûrement d’ autre moyen de se calmer à la place de fumer… Certaines personnes s’ inquiètes pour sa santé car il a une belle voix et sa peu endommagé sa voix… ( c’ est juste mon opinion svp…)
@user-lr8vt9zw2k
@user-lr8vt9zw2k 8 ай бұрын
@@YOonGiDivOrSeMe well u are they are adults they know what they doing.
@truetigress8401
@truetigress8401 8 ай бұрын
It was what my mom died from as well. Back in the day cigarettes came with coupons which would help you buy things. My mom bought a lot of things we needed ...a washer and dryer being one of the items her coupons bought that she was most proud of. She had to have started smoking early because even as a toddler I can remember the full cigarette trays scattered around the house. When I was old enough to understand that smoking was not this good thing that she had made it out to be, I asked her to quit. She told me then that smoking was the only way to relieve a lot of stress she was dealing with in her life. As I became a teenager my mom finally met a good guy. Our home was free from the heavy tension that had been thick in our home for years. Even though her stress was less she continued to smoke. Then when my brother had issues with his wife, my mom took in his kids to help him get back on his feet. They stayed with us for about 5 or 6 years but her smoking increased. Then she told me one time that she found menthol cigarettes seemed lighter and she could breathe better after one so she switched to exclusively menthol cigarettes. The only man I will ever consider in my life as "dad" even tried to convince her to stop smoking by saying he'd buy her a brand new, off the lot, pick up truck. Something my mom had really wanted. My mom could not stop. Things got worse as she was in and out of the hospital dealing with her breathing. She had walking pneumonia so often the doctor had her a prescription already written for the "next time it happened". After staying days in the hospital she would light up another cigarette the moment she got in the car to go home from the hospital. Deep down I knew it in my heart that she was dying and there was nothing I could do for her. At one point she came home with an oxygen tank. When I got married she came to the ceremony but she looked so haggard. When I had my first child she was there. I had a no smoking rule for the house and most everyone would abide by it, but my mom was always upset by it. She thought it was a way of telling her I was kicking her out of my house, out of our lives so I had to have a huge discussion with her about it. My husband's mom has asthma really bad and cigarette smoke triggers one of her attacks. We'd always invite our families to the kids' birthday parties and at my eldest's second birthday party my mom broke down and told me that it would be the last time she ever climbed the stairs to my house. I remember dad helping her to their truck and they left with her crying. It was the last time I would see her come to my house. A month after my daughter's third birthday we got the phone call to come to see my mom at the hospital. All the family would be there. It felt like it was an end. What completely tore me down was when the doctor took me and my other siblings into a room alone with him. My mom never had cancer...but the doctor did say that the CO2 levels in her blood were so high that the oxygen they had her hooked up to was not able to be absorbed. They sent her home with hospice and on the trip home they had to revive her twice. I went back home after visiting with her that final night. At 3:45 am March 17th, 2006 (the following morning), I was awoken by a phone call from my dad saying she had passed away. Why I share this is not because I want sympathy for my terribly addicted mom, but I want to use it as a cautionary tale. Many of us know smoking is bad for you...but many still do it. Many get hooked to it and find it hard to stop. Many offer excuses why they should smoke too. Many will tell you they are going to quit too...and may never do so. The one fact remains....those who choose to do this are people who made that choice and did so without regard for the consequences. I have also had to share this story with my kids as they were growing up so I could let them see what smoking meant to me and how it had the power to take people from your life. Yet despite how much I love them and want to protect them, I cannot and will not live my life making their decisions for them. I will help guide them with the knowledge I've acquired over the years but ultimately they must live the life they choose for themselves. I told them about mom because I wanted them to know that they could experience the same things or something similar. I wanted them to be informed on what has happened in the past so they hopefully won't make those same mistakes. That is how I chose to parent. We are all human who are prone to making mistakes. It is through our mistakes that we experience and gain knowledge in our life. It is through learning by our past mistakes how to become better version of ourselves. I think it's important to share our own stories with others so they can take what you have experienced and add that to the knowledge they've already gained over their lifetime, so their choices become more informed. Every choice has a consequence. Whether they are good or bad, it's just another lesson in life. The members of BTS and every other idol are human beings...prone to making mistakes....Give them advice where you can, but don't command what they do with their life. All life is precious and should be given the opportunity to make their own choices and grow from their consequences. When you TELL them what to do you are trying to take away their ability to think for themselves. Truly that should be considered a real crime. Love and Light! :)
@aec121317
@aec121317 8 ай бұрын
I think most Army only worry for his health, but he's a grown ass man. Let him be❤
@alenastuart8905
@alenastuart8905 8 ай бұрын
If jungkook can smoke then people can cancel him ... Because it's their right to do whatever they want just as jungkook
@terriebtsOT7
@terriebtsOT7 8 ай бұрын
These are grown ass men. They make their own decisions. Let them live. No one is telling these haters what to do. And wouldn't they be pissed if someone did tell them what they could and couldn't do. Also love you dave!
@jeontaekook1594
@jeontaekook1594 8 ай бұрын
Yes but some of us also still support the members we just don’t support actions like this. For me I’ve grown up with the standard of no smoking and so watching someone I look up to do something I’ve been told is bad, hurts. It’s not like I’m trying to control their actions, this is just something I’ve been reminded my entire life. And I talk so highly about the members to my family so if they see them doing something like this, they will question the things I support. Now obviously he’s not going to go off of my life but seeing the members do things like this just hurts.
@dhinaariesandi8262
@dhinaariesandi8262 8 ай бұрын
Itulah sebabnya kenapa tidak boleh mengagungkan / mendewakan seseorang secara berlebihan karena nanti kalian akan kecewa sendiri jika DIA / mereka (idol) tidak seperti yang kalian harapkan / bayangkan.. Ayolah mereka Hanya Manusia biasa yang berbakat, bukan Tuhan & mereka bisa membuat kesalahan, sama seperti kita..jadi ambil saja sisi positive-nya (kerja keras-nya,perilaku baiknya, hasil karyanya) & buang Dan Jangan ditiru sisi negatifnya yang tidak cocok dengan prinsip kehidupan anda (selalu harus anda Filter & tidak harus selalu anda dukung apapun yang idol anda lakukan,mereka punya kehidupannya sendiri),tapi saya mengerti jika anda yang sangat mengidolakannya kecewa jika kelakuan idola kalian tidak seperti idola / panutan yang kalian harapkan..karena itu saya lebih memilih untuk mengagumi / mencintai mereka secara biasa / normal saja / tidak berlebihan supaya tidak merasa sakit juga secara berlebihan ( padahal kita Hanya penonton,bukan pemilik IDOL,tapi bisa mengerti jika Sangat Mencintai itu akan merasa Sangat Memiliki & ingin IDOL-nya Tidak Salah Mengambil Jalan Keputusan untuk kehidupan mereka sendiri (walau masing2 "Army" sebenarnya juga memiliki prinsip kehidupan tentang Salah & Benar-nya juga sendiri2 yang bisa berbeda dengan Army lain nya)..yang kita bisa lakukan sebenarnya hanyalah mendoakan /meminta pertolongan Tuhan Supaya mereka dalam proses hidupnya selalu mendapat perlindungan & pengasawan / teguran Tuhan untuk mengembalikan mereka kembali ke Jalan yang benar (menurut Tuhan) jika mereka secara tidak sadar sudah membuat kesalahan pengambilan keputusan (yang bisa merusak hidupnya) & kurasa itulah arti Cinta yang sebenar Benar-nya... Peace! ✌️
@teresakaczmarek3855
@teresakaczmarek3855 8 ай бұрын
The cigarette in Jungkook's hand doesn't look real. Due to passive smoking, i.e. being around smokers, our body may become addicted to nicotine. It's good that smoking in public places is now banned. The fact that nicotine has calming properties is only an illusion in the smoker's mind and that is why he reaches for a cigarette. Scientific research shows that smoking increases blood pressure and nervous tension, and the feeling of calm only occurs when nicotine is exposed to it. After smoking a cigarette, it is even worse than before and we feel very nervous.
@TergnovGermany-ch9tv
@TergnovGermany-ch9tv 8 ай бұрын
Лучше вы обсуждайте его талант а все остальное он сам разберётся Он давно вырос и стал МУЖЧИНОЙ
@user-cr9qt7so3f
@user-cr9qt7so3f 8 ай бұрын
Этот блогер не обсуждает достижения бантан, только и слышно на его канале, кто с кем встречается, кто с кем спит, кто курит, я его называю баба в юбке, сплетник
@cameliad894
@cameliad894 8 ай бұрын
@@user-cr9qt7so3f actually Dave does a good service having the patience explaining to the fandom basic business, marketing, what is a scandal and what is not .... he is trying to educate and give a broader perspective to a still very ignorant fandom -
@melissabarnes5176
@melissabarnes5176 8 ай бұрын
JK is an adult and he can do what he wants but as a singer/dancer, you'd think he wouldn't because of the effect it can have on his vocals and physicality. I don't love it but it's not my job to police him. He'll figure things out on his own.
@emacarvalho7889
@emacarvalho7889 8 ай бұрын
OP 1: oh no , we’re so bored.. OP2: Let’s make up some scandals.. but who can we piss off? OP3: BTS! OP4: yayyyy! Bring confetti and pizza !
@blu-steel22
@blu-steel22 8 ай бұрын
OP5: Don't forget that champagne!!!
@elaineOiwish
@elaineOiwish 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate how you explain aspects of what fans think they are seeing(gasp) and don’t 😅put anyone down. I don’t know Korean culture. I am a 67 yr old female from the US who was in high school during the 70s so I have seen a lot of things and fads and trends go in and out of fashion. I’m old enough to still think some words and hand gestures are just really rude. But I understand younger generation and influencers normalizing usage to make it cool and edgy. I feel sorry for ppl that use slang in another culture that is only ok if you are from that culture but they get backlash bc they were clueless but just trying to fit in.
@ghislaineavigdor7048
@ghislaineavigdor7048 3 ай бұрын
Nice comment Dave. Bravo from your French fan❤❤❤
@lisawelles6121
@lisawelles6121 8 ай бұрын
Yes JK is a grown man ,but if he is smoking he I pray that he does quit because it is not good for his health or anybody's health. SMOKING FOR A LONG TIME LEADS TO CANCER .I definitely don't want anyone to get sick.
@sueheberding105
@sueheberding105 8 ай бұрын
BTS members are human beings. Young men who have the right to smoke or not. They are old enough to make their own choices. They are young men just starting out in life. There are so many things for them to look forward to in their life. They are good humble honest caring talented young men who are changing music and world history. They give love and hope through their music and dance. They put their blood sweat and tears in their music their messages are of love caring acceptance hope be true to yourself. Fame has not changed their pure honest humbleness. Let them be young and figure out what they like or don't like.
@Tealtra
@Tealtra 8 ай бұрын
I love the way you and your team have brought forth these contributions to alow folks see the other side of possibilities. A person capable of making reasonable decisions. Is someone thinking for themselves as if they were that person being persecuted. What their reaction is determines the hurt being caused. We all understand hurt in one form or another. It's primarily primal in nature of the human race, causing resounding memories. Allowing you to feel the firm opinions of the topic at hand. Everyone deserves the right to be misunderstood or to say how they feel. That falls into humanity's rights. Assumptions and opinions do not count when they cause hurt or damage to others. Humanity thrives during peaceful encounters. This is clearly my opinion and no one else's. So please take it with a grain of salt. Thanks for letting me ramble. May peace find you well. 🙏
@katiejamieson8347
@katiejamieson8347 8 ай бұрын
THEY ARE GROWN ASS MEN! If they chose to smoke thats a choice that they themselves have made. This "im hurt" bs needs to stop. Backlash for what? Maybe its because im from the UK, but im also 28 and fully aware that ADULTS can do as they please.
@whippedforjungkook
@whippedforjungkook 8 ай бұрын
There is paparazzi video of Jungkook smoking whilst out at a restaurant in beverly hills, Jungkook was happy, carefree and wasn't worried about being seen. He was with some friends and staff members, Jungkook enjoyed his night out. He doesn't deserve the negativity that is being aimed at him, I hope Jungkook is okay and not letting this get to him. His real fans are here to support him always
@alsabaarshi
@alsabaarshi 8 ай бұрын
I don't think it's about Jungkook smokes or not. When you're a celebrity then you also have social responsibility. As, the saying goes... With great power comes great responsibility. I know it's nobody's business to judge someone on the basis of smoking or drinking. I totally agree... However, he is not a comman man he is a celebrity so, he must be very careful as he knows there are billions of people who follow him including the younger generation. I love Jungkook and it's totally up to him if he smokes or drinks. The only think I don't like is being so irresponsible when he knows that, each and every move of his is captured by media. People can hate me for bringing this up. But, someone has to tell the truth. Just coz ur a celebrity you don't get the liberty to do whatever you want and get away it. If ur a celebrity and do something wrong it will not turn right just coz ur a celebrity. I hope that makes sense.
@howiwishyouwerehere49
@howiwishyouwerehere49 8 ай бұрын
If any of the guys smoke, it is their choice, they are of age, and smoking is not illegal. But they all enjoy their careers, the stage, and fame and I am sure they would not jeopardize their most precious instruments - their voices. All is good in moderation. Anyone saying they are not a good example for children has got their pots and pans mixed up, they are not responsible for other's kids and need not raise them. And the parents complaining are hypocrites, throwing their own responsibilities on these young men. I suggest they spend more time, teach and guide their children themselves instead of supplying them with phones and limitless unmonitored time online.
@wendyraye1
@wendyraye1 8 ай бұрын
To use JK saying 10 years ago that he didn't like his father smoking doesn't really work because the chance of a kid coming from a smoking home and getting into it as a teen or adult is considerably high. No, not everyone whose parents smoke will smoke too, the stats are just higher. Most kids who smoke later in life hated their parents smoking when they were young. I have always had friends who smoke so it doesn't bother me. I thought smoking caused lung issues though, so I have always been confused why singers get into it, like wouldn't it make it harder to sing? I don't know just me not knowing something and wondering about it. Asians don't all look the same, Koreans don't all look the same. But, kpop idols do all look the same. Not their fault, but the industry is so limited in the looks they will accept into the industry that if you do not keep up with kpop it is easy to mix them up. Again not their fault, but the industry really isn't representing the actual variety of features actual Asians do have. People's expectations of who the boys are is annoying, but the industry really does exploit the parasocial relationship. The truth is they can't be everything to everyone and I think they are really trying to slowly step there waybinto their new chapter by being a little more human, and a little more open with who they really are. But, that is just my theory. 💜
@AlixLugay5
@AlixLugay5 8 ай бұрын
OMG these people are watched under a microscope! Smoking not smoking dating not dating jeez🙄 Hi Dave👋👋👋 Hi Dave
@perlapastor9025
@perlapastor9025 8 ай бұрын
Some fans are just pathetic thinking their idols are perfect, hello people, there is no such things as perfect. Tho smoking is not good for our health so does being toxic.. Grow up people..
@danaogle6215
@danaogle6215 8 ай бұрын
Most vocal coaches wouldobject vaping
@shellyranallo2937
@shellyranallo2937 8 ай бұрын
I am not a smoker nor do I like the smell, BUT they are not children they are adults, if you don't like what they're doing move on do not criticize because you are not perfect clean your house before you go and clean someone else's home thank you Dave for your comments
@Angusmoi
@Angusmoi 8 ай бұрын
everybody talk about smoking is gross and dangerous for the health but drinking a lot, is a problem too. so let's people do what they want, not only by stress, as a smoker i'm fed up with people who tell me what to do for my health or my life. i like smoking is like a glass of cognac or else, i appreciate it, so what ! it's my life. And by the way , it's very dangerous to only breathe nowadays, the air and the water in this actual world is so poluted by so many toxics, that is more lethal for humans.
@user-lr8vt9zw2k
@user-lr8vt9zw2k 8 ай бұрын
I remember when my son use to tell me not to smoke, now he's 28 and he smoke . Aim a smoker and I can tell you this.......................the way he is holding it , look like he has NO EXPERIENCE smoking lol maybe someone offered to him and he decide to act like he's smoking IDK, but I prefer him or V or any of the group to smoke or vape instead of using illegal drugs !!!
@caroletaylor9031
@caroletaylor9031 8 ай бұрын
Dave, you’ maybe have never been the person and/or family to first integrate an area. As a freshman at Texas A&M out of 38k students, 137 of us were POC. I wasn’t an athlete I was a nerd. So when leaving the library walking to my dorm at midnight, campus police always asked if I needed a ride back to the athletic dorm, because there was in their mind certainly not headed to the newest dorm area, the commons where dorm, Mail and dining were in one place. Another thing, students and faculty alike assumed I was on a scholarship or grant. Mom and Dad were educated professionals who footed the bill. To this day I have zero college debt as I paid for grad school on my own.
@hyatt7010
@hyatt7010 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Dave for the update. No harm done if idols smoking and I believe each individuals that smoke knew their own limit.
@scholasticalobo3166
@scholasticalobo3166 8 ай бұрын
Instead of making a big deal about it, maybe people can stop and think that they are also humans and they smoke as a way of coping mechanism to handle their stress. Give them some time and they will come around. V himself has reduced his drinking alcohol too. So if we truly love them as fans, we should understand and give them some space. They are good kids.
@dreamersparadise6122
@dreamersparadise6122 8 ай бұрын
Did v drank a lot??
@theinsanesilentrabit2457
@theinsanesilentrabit2457 8 ай бұрын
It is what he chooses to do, and I hope that in the future, he can realize the damage it can do. His cough, sore throat will be irritated by it. I've lost too many family members from smoking, I just wish him well!
@Gramcracker72
@Gramcracker72 8 ай бұрын
It makes me angry in this day and age this is so unacceptable. Young people are suppose to free thinking Why do they put entertainers judged by different standards. YOU should all take there own inventory ! They are just People.The price of fame is painful. So so sorry ❤️🍀
@suhayes7628
@suhayes7628 8 ай бұрын
They did it on purpose to get audience, sell magazines.
@barbaramitch7818
@barbaramitch7818 8 ай бұрын
I think we made a huge mistake in thinking that all entertainers, actors, singers, teachers and so on are role models per-say WE SHOULD TEACH EVERY HUMAN HAS THE GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO CHOOSE HOW TO LIVE FOR THEMSELVES!!! IF A HUMAN MAKES A MISTAKE THAT IS BETWEEN THEM AND GOD WE ARE NOT THEIR JUDGE!!!! IF YOU WANT PERFECT CHILDREN YOU MUST BE PERFECT! YOUR NOT SO THEY WILL NOT BE ! WE ARE TO TRY TO BE OUR BESTAND OUR CHOICES ARE OURS ALONE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANY OTHERS IS NOT HOW IT WORKS!!! Teach your children your beliefs but stop trying to make everyone responsible for your children they need to know everyone has their own choices!
@Claudi_69
@Claudi_69 8 ай бұрын
Guys, please, they are grown men, they can smoke and drink, etc. They know themselves that smoking is not healthy. Please, don't make a big deal out of every little thing. We ARMY don't love them any less because of it. 💚💜
@tracyblack8870
@tracyblack8870 8 ай бұрын
I feel 2 ways about any of the members smoking, 1st...... I don't care cause their all grown men and can do what the hell they want, we are their fans we don't have any say in what they do in their private life's. 2nd..... Yes i care and don't want them to smoke but that's coming from selfish reasons because i don't want it to affect their singing voices and their stamina when they performing, but that's me being an ARMY, I honestly just want them to be happy with whatever they choose to do in their own life's.💜🔥💙 Also a video has now been released of him taking a drag and blowing the smoke out.
@jimins_feet769
@jimins_feet769 8 ай бұрын
You know what? Its up to him!!! Hes an adult, he can smoke, he probably needs that release. Fk the haters and idiots who are against him.
@louiseleclaire6895
@louiseleclaire6895 8 ай бұрын
I agree that he is grown and can do whatever he wants. My only concern is his health. Compromising his lungs and singing voice. But if that's what he wants to do...
@cherylbauman7191
@cherylbauman7191 8 ай бұрын
Well i accidentally came across the photo on THV websites i was surprised but as a health care worker i wished no one smoked, but thats my own desire reality is reality 😢 but i still admire these men ❤️💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
@r.austin7928
@r.austin7928 8 ай бұрын
People need to let these guys live their lives the way they want to. They are not boys anymore, they are grown ass men, (do pardon my french) and they do not need anyone's permission to do what they want. So, whether you're Army, Marines or Air Force, stop the bitching. They're humans too. ❤️❤️❤❤❤❤❤ 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
@michellelaw6157
@michellelaw6157 8 ай бұрын
Smoking is just plain not good for you. I used to smoke and it wasn’t easy to quit. I won’t ever smoke again either. I can’t say what JK will do. And I wouldn’t bug him about it. He’s old enough to know what he wants and how to act. But I do hope, if he’s smoking, he’ll quit. 🤔
@grai5y
@grai5y 8 ай бұрын
There actually is a video clearly showing jungkook smoking SO WHAT??? ARMY, He's an adult and also free to do what he wants, just like you do. Army has created a perfect image of what THEY want him to be. This goes for all the members as well. That's ridiculous so just accept that he is his own person, free to express, explore and experiment with what he wants to. You don't own him. Therefore, you can't dictate what he does. Some Army are seriously so toxic.
@gorgeous9682
@gorgeous9682 8 ай бұрын
It's more of COMING OUT‼️ A statement saying to those who are calling him baby, your baby is a grown up man and smoking. He knows whats coming to him he is in the U.S. he smoked in front along the busy street paparazzi or not he will be photo/video. In fact i admire he bravely and boldly did that (and why do you think he did this in the U.S.? Most likely if it's in Korea the bashers swarm already in Hybe office 😅) some people accept, some not. I am not a smoker but i don't judge the smoker.
@parkerjuliemarie
@parkerjuliemarie 8 ай бұрын
I saw the video of him smoking, but the only thing I wonder is wont that ruin his beautiful voice?
@mbondsart
@mbondsart 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Dave for more commen sense and compassion for others. Most people in their twenties adopt a variety of habits that they change as they go through their thirties. As an aritist, smoking is not good for your voice or lungs long term. But, consider all of the aritsts who had some pretty intense habits when they were in their twenties who became very healthy as they age. Life is each of ours to travel and learn. Jk did not fall into his life with all the knowledge of the universe in his brain. He is smart, talented and deserves consideration for handeling some very big issues in his life and finding solace with a cigarette or vape. Very likely as he ages that interest will change and he will do other things. Sending love and wishes for good health and continued wisdom and humor to Dave and his supporters.
@leelamondedahl6597
@leelamondedahl6597 8 ай бұрын
Okay so, I don’t know how to explain my thoughts very well. But, I will try to explain how I feel about this. I am not happy about Jungkook smoking. It’s unhealthy. And it also shows that he had or have stress. Him having stress is expected though, don’t get me wrong. But why would I like that? I don’t want him to feel so much stress to the point he has to smoke for it. And even if there is another reason for him smoking, I still don’t like it because it’s unhealthy. But, I don’t love him any less just because of a thing like this. I still love him and I do support him. I won’t ask or tell him to quit. And I do understand if it makes him feel better. If he likes it, then I will accept it. No one should hate on him for smoking. It’s not really “that bad” to smoke anyway. It’s not like he’s a bad person for smoking. He’s still the same, even if he is smoking. I will never leave his side no matter what. I love him and the rest of the members so much. I just care about their health… But, he is a grown man and he can make his own decisions. Not only that, but I know Jungkook is a very wise person too. I trust his decisions. And even if he would regret it in the future, I would still just think of it as simply being human. And if he won’t regret it, then that is good! He makes his own decisions. Wether I like it or not, he knows what he is doing and he is a capable man. He’s like an older brother to me… I will always be on his side and support him, even if I don’t always agree. I love you JK🥰❤️
@meagain7669
@meagain7669 8 ай бұрын
Eww smoking is not hot & this is why people are against showing idols smoking cause of these dummy young fans & idols know it too & that's why they kept it private except for taehyung idk why he's promoting vaping like that The real problem here are the paparazzis spreading the bad habits
@relasing123
@relasing123 8 ай бұрын
What about Junkook he is smoking which is worse?? Nothing to say there?? Only Tae is the problem ??
@meagain7669
@meagain7669 8 ай бұрын
@@relasing123 if he's posting a vape in an official chanel for everyone to see yeah that's a problem fans will pick it up but if a paparazzi revealed it we can understand
@relasing123
@relasing123 8 ай бұрын
@@meagain7669 That's wierd no one seemed to understand when someone took an unauthorized photo of Taehyung supposedly smoking at the Grammys. The person who uploaded photo admitted it was edit & deleted the account. There are also editors who have analized the photo also say it was edited. Still he continues to be dragged for those photos. Strange they never took a video like they did for JK definitely sus. It was pretty disgusting what was said about him & how he was attacked. No one seemed to understand back then how convenient for you to be understanding now that it's JK & all kind of excuses used which were not aceptable for Taehyung back then. Hypocritical much.🫤 Also how do you know it's a vape it looks like a permanent marker to me . A friend of mine lives in Spain & she said that there are permanent markers that look like that. Yeah, your fave is getting dragged poor thing. TaeKarma is real. However too many are supporting Jungkook Taehyung can't relate.
@haripriyakarthik3373
@haripriyakarthik3373 8 ай бұрын
Even though I hate it, what makes me worried are the reasons he got into this habit
@marshap7403
@marshap7403 8 ай бұрын
"Think of the children". Love it 😂😂😂❤
@stormygcannon1229
@stormygcannon1229 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, Dave this is great in explaining. So many people and different cultures. Ok my take is mistakes happen. A Journalist really needs to be above just putting a photo of anyone as well as a story byline. Definitely was used and not accurate. Smoking in Asia is mainly not frowned upon. Last few years strides in a lot of Countries have brought forth people to stop smoking. Myself quit over 23 years ago. Was told to start smoking by a Doctor for my Nerves wow times have changed. Take it from me it is a bad habit and it stinks. I went cold turkey and was finally able to quit. Have a better day goodnight 🙃💫
@A41Leslie
@A41Leslie 8 ай бұрын
Long-term smoking also changes your voice. I don't understand why singers smoke when this could change their vocal range if that is their livelihood.
@ridita5221
@ridita5221 8 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Suga smoking in the Haegum MV to clap back to the heaters. Jungkook's photos look edited. My fyther also smoked and that is the reason, I never tried it.
@PerpetuallyTaegi
@PerpetuallyTaegi 8 ай бұрын
They’re grown ups and normal adult men no one on here is their mum you can’t tell adults what to do it’s upsetting but let’s just hope “if” it’s true they’ll stop.
@adrijaaa_x
@adrijaaa_x 8 ай бұрын
Even though I'm very disappointed for Jungkook, he's a free grown man, he can do whatever he wants to and no one should tell him what to do and what not to do. I'm pretty sure he knows what are the consequences of smoking. The reason I could not believe or felt disappointed was because Jungkook stopped his father from smoking, I never thought he would be the one to support smoking let alone smoke himself. I know he gets stressed a lot and it's his own preference but fans who support him smoking shouldn't call him "hot" for this, there is nothing hot about smoking. There are always better ways to release stress, and that's what I believe. But yeah, as i said, I do not see a problem with Jungkook smoking.
@user-ze8pi3hl1o
@user-ze8pi3hl1o 8 ай бұрын
Oh . Leave V alone . Not my personal life. V is a nice man .
@gunjanmahor2150
@gunjanmahor2150 8 ай бұрын
Have u met him in person?
@user-ze8pi3hl1o
@user-ze8pi3hl1o 8 ай бұрын
@@gunjanmahor2150 . No . I did not meet him in person . 🇺🇸
@gunjanmahor2150
@gunjanmahor2150 8 ай бұрын
@@user-ze8pi3hl1o then how do u know that he can never do bad things or like he is perfect don't forget that they are celebrities we don't know what's going on behind the doors company fucking pays the media so they will not create a scandal
@melchoraaquino7154
@melchoraaquino7154 8 ай бұрын
very well said.
@1lilmac11
@1lilmac11 8 ай бұрын
As a smoker for nearly 40 years I find I am torn by hearing about any of the members smoking . I don't see anything morally wrong with smoking , how ever there are obvious health issues related to smoking. If I was a young girl again now , with the knowledge out there I wonder what if anything would make me actually start smoking. ?! And also if my voice was literally my livlihood would I risk it ?..but that all being said they are all adults and shouldn't be penalised or ostracised over a choice they have made . X I still love and support all of the boys regardless of how human they become to us x
@marilynkraut7357
@marilynkraut7357 8 ай бұрын
Dave, I was struck by your statement you expected to be a doctor. I’m sure your story from then to now is fascinating. It sounds like you are happy with your decisions. I hope so. Life is extraordinarily unpredictable- as often shown in the BTS story.
@baharrrbdr2199
@baharrrbdr2199 8 ай бұрын
For the love of God!Leave the boys aloneee!They are grown ass man.They should be living their lives freely.Sometimes I feel so sad for them.They have to be really strong for their so called fans are extremely annoying.Let them be!!!!
@Misslillysprout
@Misslillysprout 8 ай бұрын
I wish more would see them as human/people and stop hating on them for doing things normal humans do, and if they have a cigarette or vape , just let it go, they are adults. I hope one day people will stop freaking out and hating on them because they may have gone out on a date as well . . .
@kimcoggins2782
@kimcoggins2782 8 ай бұрын
Adult or no, smoking, vaping or drinking excessively is not healthy. I would like JK to be around for a long time with that beautiful voice. It has nothing to do with judging him. Just concern.
@emasusanti8850
@emasusanti8850 8 ай бұрын
Poor v 😔
@marissacruz8915
@marissacruz8915 8 ай бұрын
Smoking is bad for your health and JK knows it but if it calms and makes him stress free from smoking then let him be. Despite smoking JK is undeniably a multi talented, music virtuoso, skillful artist total package performer and a down to earth charismatic idol a rarity in the industry he is not an addict he smokes cigarettes and not weeds so what's the fuzz he is who he is and smoking will not get in the way for his soaring higher than ever so. Let him be JK we love you we just remind him but never curse him
@maryr1905
@maryr1905 8 ай бұрын
Saying you won’t become an addict to smoking (or drinking which they also do a lot) is ridiculous. These things are addictive as anyone who has tried to stop will tell you. Just because they are idols doesn’t make them immune to addictions. How many famous and talented people have had their lives and careers ruined by addictions?.
@maryr1905
@maryr1905 8 ай бұрын
I’m going to say one more thing because Dave always raises some interesting points and this should be part of the conversation I think. BTS is successful because of the incredible investment of time and money that ARMY has given to them. Yes they are talented and have worked hard, but let’s be honest, it is ARMY that devotes an unbelievable amount of time and financial resources to them that has made them who they are and as successful (including financially successful) as they are. They know this also. It is not a bad thing and I’m glad for them. However, an investor in a company expects that those they invest their time and resources into will respect that investment and not do anything to deliberately harm or damage the investment. If I had devoted a significant amount of my time and financial resources into them and then I saw members choosing to do things that they know will damage their abilities and therefore harm what I have invested into, it is logical that I would be unhappy. An investor in a company would withdraw their resources and some fans do the same when they see damage being done. It is a logical and appropriate response. Celebrities want things both ways. Invest your hard-earned money and valuable time in me, but don’t get upset when I choose to do things that will harm your investment. That for me is where the problem lies. Yes it is about caring that they are making poor life choices, but the response is also one that sees it as a slap in the face for the sacrifices made for their success. When the investment of time and resources involves people who do need to live lives that have autonomy or a whole other set of problems arise, finding the balance is tricky. The upshot is BTS should be free to make their own life choices and in return they should not be upset that fans are reacting to their choices and choosing to pull their investment of time and money. They should not get upset if their choices result in less success. They are free to make those choices and should accept the consequences without complaint.
@Heznau
@Heznau 8 ай бұрын
This is America, artists can do anything there, and then it’s fashionable to talk about addiction in different shows. I don't want Jungkook to become like many others.
@veronicafletcher7757
@veronicafletcher7757 8 ай бұрын
I DON'T BLAME MEMBERS FOR CURSING PEOPLE OR GIVING THEM THE "BIRD". THEY ARE GROWN SO LEAVE THEM ALONE. SUPPORT OR ABORT! HAPPY BIRTHDAY RM (9/12). ARMY 4 LIFE
@luisaz3570
@luisaz3570 8 ай бұрын
I think ppl who are saying that it's cool or hot are more of a problem than the smoking itself. I mean smoking is gross and harmful, we know this But ppl make bad choices everyday and it is JKs choice to make. I'm not going to stop being a fan over it, but seeing ppl talk about how cool or hot it is just because it's JK is dumb IMO.
@pamciufo1399
@pamciufo1399 8 ай бұрын
Biggest thing I’m worried for is their voices… ☹️smoking anything or vaping has always ( even though vaping has not been around very long🤨) been detrimental to one’s health ….they shouldn’t be messing with their money makers…plus messes with your skin ( hello! Korean beauty standards besides …) ..so hoping those photos are photo shopped…( they do enough adult stuff… whether it’s behind closed doors or in the public’s eye..being an adult ain’t all it’s cracked up to be- and I’m a 62 years old ARMY so I’ve been through it all .. I’d frame my soul for a few do overs at my younger age)
@blu-steel22
@blu-steel22 8 ай бұрын
I'm sure they know that it's bad for them and they know that they have to take a small amount of it and Jungkook has mentioned that he takes multiple vocal exercises (the straw method for example) on multiple occasions
@Lisa-jt5uh
@Lisa-jt5uh 8 ай бұрын
I believe everyone has a choice, saying they are human and have things in life differently from us regular folks. Let these men live their lives, they are human and have their own lives to live.
@a1r9a9shi99
@a1r9a9shi99 8 ай бұрын
I don’t care if TaeTae or JungKook smokes as long as they are healthy, happy and is not causing troubles to others. They are humans too and no it isn’t illegal. I don’t stop others from smoking just because I don’t like smoke, I am not a smoker and smoke makes me cough uncontrollably crazy. I just politely explain that I don’t do well with smoke and excuse myself from the situation until the smoker is done smoking. Most people understand. To me thats just part of maturity and also living in a real life world! As for the magazine…yes mistakes happen, the magazine corrected it and I don’t think there’s much else we can do about it after that. Not everything requires a legal action and people can’t go to court every time there is something that someone doesn’t even slightly like. That’s not what court is there for. Borahae 💜
@paulashelley3753
@paulashelley3753 8 ай бұрын
You can't be a smoker and be healthy.
@vivianwhite3021
@vivianwhite3021 8 ай бұрын
You also except haters as long as they pay hate is hate and money is the route off all evil and there are less people smoking that is a good thing because smoking only point is to kill you and you can’t blame it on stress when there is so much to live for you body is not meant to be a chimney
@user-ui8pz4pg3t
@user-ui8pz4pg3t 8 ай бұрын
I love you Jk ❤
@HMKosta
@HMKosta 8 ай бұрын
Photos of people that are unflattering or offensive to people may not be published without their knowledge. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to apply to idols. There are also cultural differences in behavior, but there are hardly many people who do not know what poisons cigarettes contain and how they affect the body. If someone wants to expose themselves to cancer, damage to the circulatory system, or just lose the properties of their skin, let them do so, as long as others don't have to be exposed to the smoke. In our country, many people look at smokers strangely, and most people who still smoke are people with a low level of education who probably have many other problems in life. But maybe in Asia the matter is treated differently? I do not know.
@MindyPowell-hu4if
@MindyPowell-hu4if 8 ай бұрын
Ok I'm an Army that has been with BTS since 2015. These haters are not original Armies. They are new people who call themselves Army but really have no idea what it means to be an Army. Our job is to Love each member no matter what. Our job is to protect each member. Our job is to except the Fact that they are no longer boys but grown Men. We need to support them not ridicule them. You cannot call yourself an Army if you can't Love, except and protect each member equally. For our 7 Kings the Real Armies will always be there for you even when you go your separate ways. Our Kings will Date they will Marry and have children. I look forward to seeing each member continue to grow. BTS ignore the haters you give them Power by listening to them. Army lets take that Power back. Only positive is allowed. And that goes for you to Dave. Remind people of the good not bad. Children be kind to each other Momma Army 🤗
@elizabethbottroff1218
@elizabethbottroff1218 8 ай бұрын
I agree! BTW, I think that you were wanting to use the word, "accept," a couple of times.
@paulaokpalaeke
@paulaokpalaeke 8 ай бұрын
I am an army too since 2014and U say love and protect if u love someone u stop them from doing dangerous things, things that can scar them for life, things that can ruin their future. Honestly i am not really happy to see jungkook smoking
@paulaokpalaeke
@paulaokpalaeke 8 ай бұрын
And by the way because we are looking out for him doesn't make us haters, someone who loves u won't watch u do something that will slowly kill u
@blackangel7834
@blackangel7834 8 ай бұрын
I really miss old era... Nowa days the toxic people are more
@jodijacobsonworld
@jodijacobsonworld 8 ай бұрын
@@paulaokpalaeke Except we don’t know him in real life. We are fans. That job of talking to him about the health ramifications of smoking lies with his doctors, family and real life friends. The fan/idol relationship needs boundaries. Let’s stop assuming a role that is inappropriately familiar. We are Fans not friends.
@denithompson386
@denithompson386 8 ай бұрын
All those people who think it is their business.............NOT!💜🎶💜
@alisonfraser8231
@alisonfraser8231 8 ай бұрын
Yes, smoking is something that brings people together in many workplaces, not just entertainment. Cliques form and avoiding clouds of toxic, secondhand smoke can make an employee miss opportunities. However, you will thank yourself when you age and still look good and are healthy. Second-hand smoking causes cancer. Almost as much as smoking yourself. Find a boss and workplace that values your health. Addicts make crappy bosses anyway. And leave people their privacy so they can have their addiction in peace, if they are good enough to not do it in your face.
@veronicafletcher7757
@veronicafletcher7757 8 ай бұрын
IF YOU WANT TO BE ACCEPTED, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT OTHERS. IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE!
@juliezac1049
@juliezac1049 8 ай бұрын
Seriously who cares if they smoke These poor guys can't do anything Geez 😊Love your work Dave ❤
@reanaa
@reanaa 8 ай бұрын
We watched 7 men go through adolescence without even a hint of scandal. They are introspective, loyal, hardworking, caring and they always put ARMY first. Rebellion, even if it's only the tiniest bit, is normal and healthy. He's a smart guy, he'll quit until then he's living the vida loca.
@hollyhill3148
@hollyhill3148 8 ай бұрын
JK can do as he chooses of course, but I hope he realizes that if he does so for years, it could affect his voice and ability to sing well.
@copamas5658
@copamas5658 8 ай бұрын
i really love your video bcs your point of vue is always clear and with the benefit of doubt without siding, i really love that , in this case it really seems to me taht this youg men are absolutly not allowed to be human... but they are , they are fantastic humans whith their flow, are they or are they not smoking it's their choice as soon as they don't promot it , and they obviously are not bcs it's always behind the scene picture we never saw them smoking clearly and even if it was again i repeat it's no illegal thing to do and thei are grown up ...why don't we let them leave in peace and just admire and support them for their work ...thank again for your video and please don't stop it's a real pleasure 🥰🥰
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