This is the one of the best reviews in this channel

That was entertaining as always Mark. Your tortured experience with these cars makes for both an informative and enjoyable viewing adventure.

My work colleague worked at the QA dept of BMW in Munich, let’s just say he left due to the problems he saw, pointed out, but nothing was done about it. Be careful of the high performance cars, you’ll be paying for it as they’ll take no responsibility

My first German car was a brand new 2001 VW Passat; Made in Germany. I had that car for one year and was in the shop 13 times. Three times for the Mass Airflow Sensor, One time for the radio not working, Two times for the Climatronic failing, One time for the T handle hood release coming off when I tried to open the hood. One time for the headliner coming off (No doubt bad installation after fixing the faulty radio antenna earlier). Two times for the plastic wheel bolt covers cracking and falling off. Two times for the EGR valve failing and the last time was for flickering headlights due to a faulty alternator. People told me that VW aka V-DUD isn't a real German car. Get a Mercedes. I looked around and bought a Mercedes E500. In the first year, I went back to the dealer because the rear windows would not roll down. I only rolled those windows down about two times before they failed. Then, while grocery shopping, I put the gorceries in the trunk and went home. Guess what. The trunk latch is electric and it failed. It failed so bad that the key wouldn't even open it because the electric motor driving the lock failed and there is no override. GREAT GERMAN ENGINEERING! I went to drop the back seats to get the gorceries out but guess what, apparently folding rear seats are optional on a $60k Mercedes but standard on a $15k Corolla an my E500 didn't have the folding seat so I had to pull the groceries through the tiny rear armrest trunk access. German cars? NEVER AGAIN. I've only ever purchased Japanese cars ever since.

Great analysis of both cars! Thank you!

I love the panel tests! should do more quality comparisons like this!

Almost every vehicle manufactured today is thinner and cheaper than years past. Cost cutting has led to more plastic and thin body panels. I remember when cars were built like tanks. Porsche is the exception but you pay the high ticket price for that ride.

Btw always love your videos!!

Is the reliability conclusion based on the banging on the body panels and fiddling with the various interior pieces? Component fitment is a factor but when I think reliability, I'm more so concerned about the engine's internals, water pump, oil pump and timing system. Everything else is fairly modular to replace.

I used to work at customer experience at a BMW dealership. I was amazed by how much mistreatment the customers would take without complaining. If customers wouldn't accept their crap these makers would actually do something to improve reliability, but people keep buying their crap.

There are no comparisons between a BMW and Mercedes. Mercedes Are far better and reliable cars.

Mercedes is a lot better in terms of reliability compared to BMW. There’s a reason why E class is taxi is Europe and no BMW is

Great video as always. Just a general opinion: HOW YOU TREAT ( how responsible you are ) YOUR CAR is more important than how much your car can take. Some cars can be more expensive to maintain than others, but ... does it matter if you are prepared for it? It all depends on whether you really value your car and your investment. I know people who own cars that are known to have not-so-great reliability and have been using them for years and still look brand new and have no issues at all. BUY WHAT YOU LIKE AND BE RESPONSIBLE WITH IT. There is no such thing as a perfect car, there is a perfect one for each type of driver.

Great update Mark ❤🇨🇦🍺🍺👍Cheers

I've driven my BMW X4 all over Thailand for the last 5 years! 122,000KM and still no issues! Great car, good COG. I regularly service the car and additionally change engine coolant! No complaints so far--here's to hoping!!!

I lost trust in BMW. Too many bad experiences.

Would be great if you could also do a review on the 4 cylin N43 engines - I have been hearing a lot of mixed opinions about it.

Very unbiased review. Great work

Thank you for the free knowledge.

Hey Mark, Great channel and look forward to every single video you put up. Also thanks being honest and for keeping us in the know. I have a question for you… Last January I purchase a new 2023 BMW M340i with the amazing B58 engine. Love the car…. I’m planning to keep the vehicle for a very long time. If you were me would you consider buying the extended warranty on the car? BMW is offering me : 4 years extra and unlimited KMS obviously after the original warranty ends 4/80k. For the amount of 6600$ CAN I think it’s a reasonable price…. What’s your opinion? Thanks and take it easy Bill K.

Are the same quality issues ( like plastic hoses on cooling parts) also being found in more expensive models like 5/7 series or E/ S class , or are those only on entry level models mostly ?

Great analysis, as always! Very detailed and informative. Given, arguably, a similar comparison, I think that the Benz is a far more attractive car. Beautiful, to all of your points. However, BMW has (shockingly) stepped up in the reliability game. And you do a nice job of pointing it out. But the Mercedes is so beautiful.

Great vid-but remember, German cars in general are build to fail ( planned obsolescence). Days of Merc build like tanks are gone, and the strategic alliance of BMW & Toyota will improve BMW in reliability focus

I have an old merc c230k from 1997..its done over 300000 miles.still runs fine..a few small issues but nothing that stops the car running..i wonder how many new mercs will do that mileage..

love your videos on endless money pits!

Would love to hear your thoughts and experience with BMW hybrid reliability. How much can one expect in costs over the lifetime of the vehicle? Would you recommend buying a used 530e? etc.

Great breakdown. I have a 2017 Mercedes-Benz E300 Rwd and I’m at 125k miles and my alternator went out. I’ve never had any issues except tires and brakes and oil changes. As well as the Service A and service B (maintenance). Outside of normal maintenance, I’ve never had any issues with it, although MBis trying to claim that I have an “internal oil leak that is leaking to the ECU - engine control unit, which I call BS.” I believe they just want $5,600. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Can you please compare the MBW 5 series 2018 with E-class same year?

Recent BMW such as B58 ,B 48 and S58 are pretty reliable. Even S55 wasn't that bad at all considering it made 450hp

My 650i with the N63TU is doing just fine with over 100K on the dash the difference is I take care of it lol with REGULAR maintenance

How can you compare 2 series with c class?

you have a deep knowledge on cars technically. you must do some videos on vehicle maintenance there in CA,the cars which are in demand over there !

Great video! BMW strayed too far from their roots after the e46 and e90 platform. E46 being the pinnacle in my opinion. Other than the 4cyl AMG products, MB has been more consistent. Isn't the C class more upscale than the 2 series though?

How do the tires compare ( run flats vs conventional ) ? …. How about interior noise on the road ?.

Man, your C300 still looks brand new.. Great job!

Good review. I have a 2011 BMW 535i and 125k....zero issues. I have always liked my BMW more than a Merc.

Can you please tell me if my 2016 BMW 428I Coupe is on the good side? Just turned 85k and no problems whatsoever, I'm keen on maintenance.

The two cars are in different size classes. It should have been the 4 series v the Merc or the A class v the 2 series.

We are BMW enthusiasts forever, no matter what anyone says. Why? Because we take care of our own cars, work on our own cars. Leave the dealer to beaver. Not us. For us again no matter what they say BMW The ultimate driving machine for more than 23 years. Love your channel Sr.

my 2018 AMG C43 is a beauty without issues. My Previous 3,5 series BMWs are all crappy after 3 years ....

you keep mentioning the 'French engines ' in Mercedes. The Renault sourced engine was only used in Europe and they were mainly small displacement diesel engines for the A and B class cars. The only C class that got a Renault engine is the C200d which never came to North America. Renault engines were a 1.3, and 1.5 & 1.6 diesel.

Mercedes Benz today is not the same company I invested in when I bought stock in the late 70’s. The slide began when Juergen Schrempp became chairman and then the merger (purchase?) of Chrysler. Before that cars were built to a standard and after Schrempp they were built to a price point. The new company (Mercedes Benz Automobile group) under the new CEO has no interest in producing ICE cars, only Electrics. 😢

I've had multiple BMWs and MBZs. I pick MBZ for reliability and dependability, BMW's more fun to drive. Avoid turbo's at all costs. Also, I do not count the MBZ C class or the 1 and 2 series BMW's being the real thing. If made in America - particularly Alabama, most are lesser quality from USA production facilities. Both mfg's want to get you into their model lineup with introductory series that are made just as cheaply as GM, Ford, and Stellantis.

Thanks for the video, however the proper comparison would have been between MBZ C class and BMW 3 Series, instead of 2 Series!

Loved the ASMR part :))

I had an E34 manual which I bought new with almost 200k got rear ended but the car had a lot left in it and only minor repairs

I like BMWs but not the maintenance and have experienced this personally on a X3 2012 I have watched your videos but there seems not to be a good midsized one to buy with all the issues on the X5 Should I wait till 2025 to buy the current 2020 to 2023s as used. Do you ever see these engines getting better in 5 years or this will never end unless you buy brand new? Thx

This man must have been a car dealer, mechanic, or engineer. He has very indepth and correct information about cars, and I agree with everything he says.

The MB looks fantastic. The 2 series of BMW are not of my liking at all. However the 3 series is the car the MB C should be compared with. I haven't looked into neither car recently but both look sublime. Which one is better would be nice to know.

I heard JD Power goes with the Money 💰.

Excellent job

I have a 2012 Mazda MX5 and love it but I'm looking at a Z4 BMW. Is the BMW Z4 a reliable car? Most on KZfaq say yes.

The thing I've learnt with BMW is that it's the cheapest to fix and probably the most reliable as an overall brand than Mercedes and Audi and most other European brands. Even BMW's worst engines like the n20, n47 are far better than the Renault engines in low trim Mercedes. I have an 3 series N47 with 150k miles and it's better than my family members 2 low mileage B classes which kept having problems. I have a 2000 325ci with 150k and it's far better. As for Audi, My Dad's A3 cost £800 for an egr valve, my BMW was £60 labour plus my part for the same or I could do it myself. That audi repair cost would get me a new timing chain on my n47. The engine compartments are must larger on BMW compared to Audi so they're easier to work on

Ive had a 2018 c43 (W205) for over a year now ive put about 5000 miles on it and havent had a single issue apart from routine stuff like brakes

If posible to make which is it the most reliable limousine big ones, including diesel.

im not too sure about Mercedes Ive only owned 1.. but owning multiple BMWs. Id say both both are for people who owns a complete set of Metric wrenches. If you're aren't willing to work on your own vehicles, you risk the chance of running into that mechanic who is going to try to milk you. Also these cars require authentic replacement parts.

The thing about bmws is they generally break less often than mercs in the first 5 years, but once they do the spareparts are usually pricier and of lower quality than mercs.

21:50 bro you killing my eyes with that interior test 😅 Greeting from austria Bmw f20 owning 6yrs no problems so long 😄

Owned countless Bimmers thoughout the years I never have had any major problems right now in fact I got 3 sitting in my driveway (650, M5 and a 340) plus I just got a 2024 X5 delivered. Sweet ride. Where I live there is a BMW dealer right next to a MB dealer, Merc's overflowing in the lot they had to lease space from a business next door to keep all the inventory (many EQS’s but that’s another story), BMW can't keep cars on the lot. Merc's are trash, pretty bad when Range Rover has better quality. MB never got over the Chrysler debacle IMHO.

He compared these two because the engine is the same. It’s about reliability. I just test drive both and BMW was fun but Mercedes was just perfect. I have no clue what to choose…probably the Mercedes. I would lease the BMW but buy the Mercedes. They have a 2023 with 10,000 miles for a steal so that’s my jam.

Hi. Recently got my d.license in Germany. I want to buy a 2nd hand car. My options are MB c180 2012 and bmw 118 2012. Two of my friends willing to sell their cars to me at less than 120km on both cars. Any advice from car masters 😁

BMW has really made an effort to improve their cars. They are refining existing systems rather than replacing them with new ones.

My '21 M2 Comp has been bulletproof. BMW has made great strides in quality in the past few years.

FYI, the N13 is a French built engine in the 316i. Same engine as in the Mini.

Should have compared a 3 series with the C class

But the C class competes with the 3 series, the 2 series may be similar with engine and stuff to the 3 series, but its smaller that the 3 series. Its not as close comparison as if can be.

2014 528. N20. Has 103k. Should i now change trans fluid ? Getting different responses from dealerships.

Excellent 🎉

This video gets a like and a subscribe purely for the Quality Experience Section (the sounds are awesome).

can see you changing your C300 for a 2 or 3 series. am I right

Hi can anyone tell me which will be more reliable? Audi S3 BMW 128ti A35 AMG If they're all brand new of course

One other thing I should add the new Mercedes and particularly their interiors looks nicer and more snazzy than their BMW counterparts but the quality is way better in the BMWs.

Reliability left the chat😂

Wonderful review, but maybe it's my BMW biased. I think a 440i would've been better matched up with the C300

I'm very fond of this guy, his main motivation is cars and helping us out.

I am really wondering how you find themes cycling around all time long 😂

Shouldn’t a C Class be rather compared to a 3 Series than a 2 Series?

We must say BMWs made in Germany are much better built.. hands down. Naturally aspirated with little problems and hydraulic steering, any other questions. Great, later.

How can you compare a 2 series with a C class? Should have been 3 series with C Class!

Have had bmw for many many years and thankfully never had an issues. It's how you treat your ride!

What is your thought about Mercedes Benz GL 550 2012-2016???

Can you please do an E coupe....19-23 MY

Toyota put both of them to shame long time ago. People are still after the name and logo.

I sold my grande coupe after 4 years, too many problems

Guys what do you think? if you replace the plastic ends of the hoses on bmw onto metal or something more durable, will it change the game?

I’ll stick to my redsport infinity. Did they use Mercedes parts ?

Min 2:06 JDM Ranks Honda at #5 and BMW #3, ha... that is a joke, I've owned both and Honda will destroy a BMW any BMW in reliability, BMW is Junk at 120K miles while Honda can easy do 200K miles. Just a comment on my experience. ( I love this channel by the way!, great content)

I am the proud owner of a BMW 430i Gran Coupe LCI, which I acquired here in Switzerland. Notably, my model lacks a particulate filter (OPF) and had 92,000 kilometers on the odometer at the time of purchase. Just a year later, it's already approaching 138,000 kilometers. This vehicle has thoroughly impressed me with its delightful blend of exhilarating performance and comfort. It's been subjected to extensive use, standing up remarkably well under the demand. After reaching 100,000 kilometers, I opted for a Stage 1 upgrade, adding burble and XHP. The car has been performing flawlessly since. I'm meticulous about maintenance, ensuring an oil change every 15,000 kilometers using only the highest quality oil and fueling exclusively with Shell V-Power. This BMW 430i Gran Coupe LCI is, in my experience, the best all-rounder I've ever had the pleasure of owning. It underlines my belief that a vehicle's reliability is primarily a reflection of one's commitment to its maintenance and care.

My 20+ year old E46 (bought brand new) only went to the garbage recently because a family member crashed it. Otherwise that car was built like a tank and was frequently abused during its lifetime. I’m now driving a fully loaded electric iX 50 (paid in cash) and I can tell a lot of care went into putting this car together. No issues so far and I had the whole car wrapped in PPF just to make it that much more resilient to the elements.

No one should owned a BMW ,BMW are supposed to be a loan car rent a car or car you can use(lease car ) only ,

Neither and BMW is a money pit. I know my brother had two X6 SUVs and they were breaking down all the time. Yeah, BMW paid for it under warranty but you had to take it in, get another car (free), wait for the parts, and then the repairs. So, you were inconvenienced by all of this car servicing. Now, I had a 2014 ML350 BlueTEC diesel, loved it until Mercedes agreed via court rulings to fix the emissions problem without a recall. Many problems after that (in the last two years) and about $5,500 out-of-pocket for repairs and maintenance. Traded it in in April and got a Lexus ES300h, Ultra Luxury and am happy as a lark!

the amount of plastic in bmw engine bay is shocking. Love the comparo, but I do feel you should've compared the 3 series coupe (though the interior quality isn't too different)

Doesn't matter brand. Second hand car , go with Manuel gearbox

Another Nice Review, As Usual. Yeah, I Especially Agree With You, With The Piston Issues With Mercedes. My Sister Has Friends Who Owned Mercedes, And They Used Regular Gas, Instead Of Premium Gas, And The Engines Caught Fire 🔥, In Both Occasions. Shows You Truly, Have Miles Of Experience With These Cars. Maybe I'll Call BMW "Black Mamba World", If I Purchase 2024 X5 Hybrid. Thanx For The Non-Bias Review !! 😉👌

isnt the C class the 3 series competitor?

21:30 this is where the fun starts 👍

Which one do you prefer buying mercedes benz 2016-2019 c180 or bmw 2016-2019 b38 or b48 which car is more reliable

How can you compare these two cars' dude on the look and style

As a German with experience on both brands all I can say: Benzes and BMW's have reliable engines for years as long as you know what to get and to get befriended with diesel engines. The OM651 (4 cylinder 170 hp, 400nm torque) is if maintenanced properly: unkillable. BMW also has equivalents to that engine as the B47 190hp 400nm which also tends to be very reliable. Only AGR seems to be a problem at 250.000km and unluckily some of them can have pre worn timing chain guides etc. But thats nothing new even the OM651 can have similar issues. If you want 6 cylinder engines it tends to be more intelligent to go for BMW's N57s or B57s. Those tend to be very reliable and tend to be way more efficient and cost effective compared to OM642. Don't get me wrong the OM642 or any other 6 cylinder Benz Diesel Engine can be very reliable but if something breaks or goes wrong: it will be XPENSIF.

Driving around I have seen way more newer looking bmw’s on the side of the road waiting or getting towed when compared to Mercedes. Maybe the owners of these vehicles treat them differently. Maybe if you drive a bmw to cruise around without driving it like a racing car then the assessment of reliability is pretty spot on.