Thanks, keep enjoying the outdoors. Greetings Wim

How’s your Alzheimer’s disease? 😂

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I agree, very good setup with the cup and canteen. I use the bigger version of 1 liter canteen. Gives me a little bit more to play with... Enjoy, greetings Wim

Cool, let me know what you think.....

Thanks, i appreciate the reply. Good to hear from someone out of the field. You have far more experiance in the outdoors than i will ever have. Stay safe and enjoy. Greetings Wim

Hi Howard, We also used to make a hole in the ground for the esbitt. But that is not always handy. I use the standard esbitt burner. Enjoy the stainless set, sound like a good buy. Greetings Wim

@@traveler5898 yes. You don't always have sandy soil

Oh my you used one back then and you still remember😮😂. Now that's a scientific study! I guess Oliver Norths aluminum mess kit must of done him wrong, all he could say was senator I do not recall!😂😂😂

Love to see how you do that.... Greetings Wim

@@traveler5898 the discolouration on big tin was caused by the induction hob. The stainless steel works well on induction. 2min to boil the pan full of water.

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@@traveler5898 I don't know if you received the video. I posted it on KZfaq and it dissappeared. That's why I sent it twice

No video received. donut know what goes wrong but thanks for the effort. @@peetsnort

yeh, the lead is far worse than the aluminium. And really small amounts don't pose health problems. What do you mean with hexane burner? An alternative.. Greetings Wim

Hi, good question. The steel does burn somewhat, but so does the aluminum. The steel cleans easier. I found the amount of oil/butter and heat far more important for burning than te material differents. So the skills of cooking outweigh any differents that I could find. I have been using the steel for a long time now. But other people might have experience with this. So please share you're experience... Greetings Wim

@@traveler5898 Thanks! I have mainly experience with Zebra billy cans and my old crusader cup. Both stainless steel. They work fine and are not that difficult to clean. Any food will burn if you place it over a raging fire. I agree that one's cooking skills are a more important factor indeed ;)

I agree with you. It al comes down to common sense. greetings Wim

@@traveler5898 ACTUALLY aluminum AND steel are both toxic. Just take a look at any well used steel cookwear and note all the small scratches, most of those would of went into your food, and therefore into you. Only exception is SURGICAL stainless steel, and of coarse those are super expensive to buy. Aluminum is vastly worse than the steel. EVEN something like IRON which most people would think is a necessity is actually toxic...reason being it is in the improper spin state, just like with copper you may know there are two forms...one ultra toxic, and the other beneficial, same with iron. Most supplements are the incorrect form also. Get your minerals and vitamins like people have done for thousands of years, in your fresh fruits n veggies. Glass is the next best thing to surgical stainless steel...there may be something else that is do-able for health, yet I have yet to hear of it then. Eventually a build up of toxic metals WILL lead to disease, which most people by common sense can surmise. Mental disorders are often some of the premier when dealing with such. Takes many years to gain, yet now that you know how it works perhaps start working AWAY from these problems! Oh and btw the aluminum issue has been known FOR DECADES< yet we all know how many of these things are sold and used everyday, so much for science and history...business trumps em both...sad! www.cookwarestuffs.com/is-it-safe-to-use-scratched-stainless-steel/

Hi ..... Thanks for your input. I agree that steel is also toxic but there are a view differences. Ps I don't know what you mean with the "spin" variaties and how that would get in my food.... Iron comes in food / steel in Fe 2+ and Fe 3+. the Fe2+ is easy to absorb in your body the other needs reduction. Anyway, your body needs iron and has a mechanism to handle this (o.a. hepcidine). Excess iron is disgard off. Aluminum is a strange metal to your body and has to be removed by your liver. Aluminum has effect on your nerve system and such. That makes Aluminum more of a problem. And steel pots and pans are harder so less in your food..... Aluminum also dissolves easier especially with acids and salt (food). Al in al, if you live a bit healthy you will never get to toxic levels even if it is accumulative. And millions of people cook with steel. (and aluminum for that matter). Like i said in the video it comes down to common sense. Try not to eat your pots and pans...... Thanks for the info and greetings, Wim

@@traveler5898 basically as mentioned with the copper, you seem to be remiss that most metals(=molecules) have different variances, as this is a rather huge topic and requires years of knowledge/study...i tried to clue you in a bit with the copper example you MAY be familiar with...you know the green stuff on the inside of pipes, obviously it's still copper and yet an ultra toxic grade...the Iron you may be used to in SOME foods (think meat), the supplements, and also your iron pan will all give you the incorrect (think bio incompatible) version of this molecule...much like green copper. You have to have the IRON properly chelated and put into the right variant by PLANTS in order for the molecule to do anything other than build to toxicity in your body like all foreign type materials generally do.

and yes, i also already mentioned it takes years for the DAMAGE to show up on average...yet what you therefore think it's totally acceptable to start working towards that now? That is a rather insane viewpoint IMO, like saying well if I only smoke 2-3 cigs a day, that's just fine because it will take a long time for that to kill me or cause disease. It makes zero sense. Yet you are free to do as you wish, just letting you know that to someone who has studied their entire life (it's my forte) that makes only a ridiculous sounding excuse type statement.

Hi Gert, That would work. I use it with campinggas stove or Esbit. Its a pretty good setup.... Greeting Wim

It took a while to find a strong magnet. But no, only a very mild attraction. I mean very mild. And tanks for the info, I didn't know the tack weld expresion. Greetings Wim

@@traveler5898 - I ordered mine on ebay from Lithuania- I do not think its real Dutch surplus - the markings are not correct - I can only assume its a Chinese reproduction

Thanks, there is a lot of discussion over the effects of eating out of aluminium. Especially when it comes down to concentrations. Beter save then sorry. But a lot of people agree that aluminium is not the best choice. I only use the steel or aluminium with coating. Not that coating is healthy. Anyway thanks for the extra information. Greetings Wim

Yeh, but the Marines wee using stainless steel meat cans since 1918. Aluminum ones were not gov't issue. They were copies for sales in surplus stores. Made overseas.

The Alzheimer's Society consideres the "Aluminum Hypothesis" to be a myth that came from the misinterpretion of a 1965 study where MASSIVE doses of aluminum salts were were injected into rabbits. That study has since been mostly dismissed In the scientific community, but the suspicion persists in the general public who didn't get the memo. Iron, it seems, is more closely associated with Alzheimer's brain tangled than aluminum, but they haven't decided if it is cause or effect. But without iron, we die. Also, since aluminum is one of the most common elements in the earths crust, our bodies are really good at removing the tiny amount (about 1%) that gets leached from into our food from our cookware. Personally, at home I prefer cooking on cast iron or carbon steel, but that is because I like the heat distribution better. The few days I get to go camping, aluminum is fine.

Inderdaad, Esbit stinkt ook behoorlijk in verpakking. Ben nu bezig met review/test van meindl dessert Mid. (leger versie). Hoop over een aantal weken alles gefilmd te hebben. Maar is wel een uitdaging nu met Corona. iedereen zit natuurlijk vol met plannen. Hopelijk van de zomer weer echt weg, heb nog wel wat ideeën om uit te werken.....

@@traveler5898 Ja, plannen genoeg voor de zomer : ) Nieuwe tent uitproberen en zo nog wat kampeer-gear (nieuw en legerdump).

Can you recommend one or two?

@@lixibao Tks! We were issued 'those' types in the military & I hated them. Anyway, long story short, Esbit has the rectangular type (w/ the specially designed stove) & the MUCH BETTER CS985ST (or CS985HA) (also w/ the accompanying stove). Personally I prefer the excellent Toaks pot (w/ butterfly & BAIL handles). They come w/ NESTING stove, cup, etc. & are an all round better system - more versatile, functionalities.