Bruh it's mad how they thought a guy who has Messi tattooed on his back and a guy who literally is trying to look like Ronaldo would be objective or impartial in any way. They're both clearly way too starstruck to accept any new perspectives regardless of what's being said

“Just as good as Messi when it comes to dribbling” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

“Will be remembered way more for what he’s done at an international level” that aged well 😂😂

Would love to see these two reunite after Messi has won a World Cup

If you say that anyone has "just as good dribbling" as Messi, you have not watched or just cannot fathom the magic that this man creates with the ball at his feet

Why did you get 2 of the most delusional people ever to settle this debate 😂😂😂😂😂

According to the stats, as of the time of this video... Ronaldo's prime dribbling season was in the 05/06 season at Man United when he was 20 years old with around 4.17 dribbles per 90 minutes. Which is still lower than Messi's worst dribbling season in 20/21 at Barca, when he was 33 years old with around 4.27 dribbles per 90 minutes. 😭💀 now that's cold af

Who’s came back here when Messi won the World Cup🐐🐐🐐

These guys are the real life versions of twitter stan accounts. I am a messi fan because I prefer his style of play but that doesn't mean I "hate" ronaldo. Infact I love him too. Anyone who discredit either messi or ronaldo is not a football fan.

I 100% believe messi is the best player ever but people who try to discredit Ronaldo is just stupid. He's clearly top 2 along with messi

Please do a part 2....PLEASE😂 man's said "the things Cristiano has done are going to be talked about more"🤣 The guy was benched, in most of the World cup that Messi just happened to win!!!

As a person who thinks Messi is the greatest player football has ever produced, and a person that absolutely hates manchester united, i have to say, that Ronaldo fan is calm and fair, and that messi fan is off his medication

As a Chelsea fan, Messi is the best by a good distance. If we're talking dribbling, C.Ronaldo is miles behind. That Man Utd fan is a typical Man Utd fan.

I’m a Messi fan but Jesus.. this Messi fan is way too emotional about it

This man literally said Nations league is harder to win than Copa America bro go watch the games

Part 2 needed!!!! LADS GET IT DONEEEEEEE😂

I feel as if the Messi-fan would fight you, if you disagreed with him in a pub.

This Messi guy is so embarrassing. Take the actual core debate away, his whole demeanor is so cringe for a grown man.

I'm sorry that Messi fan is delusional, its not a CR7 thing either. He's got tattoos all over the place, he is extremely subjective, gets defensive, answers with questions and twist the question asked to fit his narrative.

This didn't age very well for the man united guy😅!

Imagine being a middle aged British bloke with a Messi tattoo on your back 😂

The guy on the left really cant talk about being obsessed when he has multiple tattoos of messi on his back🤣🤣🤣😂😂

Here after Messi won world cup. I wonder what that clown would say now. Please we need part 2 bring them back!

we want this debate after 2022 wc

Man said Ronaldo wasn’t great to watch at Real Madrid 😂😂😂

That messi fan is so childish would never want to have a pint with him

As a Ronaldo fan, I admit that Messi is more talented and composed. But the hard work and dedication of Ronaldo to be at this level is the reason why I prefer him more and that is very inspirational.

This should be titled “a Messi stalker debates a Ronaldo fan.”

ronaldo definitely had a period from around 06-13 where he was a top 3 dribbler in the world every year,to act like he couldnt dribble is disrespectful

The Messi fan was so deluded, he wasn’t able to “strongly agree” that Ronaldo is a great player at the end 😑

Bro said nations league is better than copa America

I’m watching this interview after the world cup 2022. So how far my Ronaldo fans? 😂

So, a guy who's clearly never kicked a football properly calls Messi "Frodo Baggins" and expects to be taken seriously? Give me a break! Messi and Ronaldo are both giants of the game, we're just lucky to have experienced them both. Age is catching up with both, enjoy them while we still can and stop squabbling over stats and allegiance.

It’s so weird that there are football fans out there that support and follow players more than teams or even a team. Cringe .

"lets stay on the international shall we?...cos I can stay here all day" aged like a fine wine

I mean invite these two back and see how things spice up

"Messi has scored more goals than anyone" well that is factually wrong

Both are gods of the game and it is embarrassing that people can't just love them both and squabble over petty nonsense. The hate both players receive online is ridiculous but I guess that's the price of greatness.

Man a Part 2 of this conversation would be hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Can they please redo this debate… the international success topic needs to be redone🐐

*We agree that Messi and Ronaldo are great players* Ronaldo fan: "I think they're both phenomenal players" Messi fan: "Messi is the best, simple as that" This is what Meesi fans in general say when people are giving credit to Ronaldo and Messi, it is just sad honestly

As a fan of both, this has got to be the most cringiest thing ive ever saw 🤣🤣🤣two grown men arguing about footballers 🤣one has a tattoo of them aswell 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Anyone here after world cup 2022🎉

So, I'm a strong Messi fan, and I strongly believe that he's the best player in football history... But the Messi fan (Ross, I believe) can't be the person y'all choose to participate in this debate. He takes it too personally... The Ronaldo fan is good, but throwing in insults just makes you look weak in a debate.

The difference between them during their prime is you give half a chance to Cristiano he will score but you don't have to give Messi a chance.

Ronaldo said 4 years ago he doesn't dribble like his peak years. We all know that in 2014 tendinosis also had something to do with it. If the dude himself says he doesn't dribble like he used too why even bring it up.

The "context" definitely changed a lot after Dec 12😂😂

Please tell me that there's a more recently version of this video???

The rivalry was what propelled them to that level of greatness IMO. You cannot be a fan of one without acknowledging the other. They kept pushing each other to be better. At the peak of their powers undoubtedly none could even compare to them. The story at the time too, Cristiano vs Messi, Barca vs Madrid, A guy who was undersized but had the touch and a guy built himself physically to dominate. These 2 are on a level of their own.

Having a person that doesn't even know you exist tattooed in your back has to be one of the saddest things anybody could do.

When the Messi Fan said "pre-assists" you just knew nothing he says after that would make any sense.

As a football fan I have seen a lot of players play but Ronaldo and Messi are very unique. Ronaldo scores goals when you want and Messi creates chances. Ronaldo is a mixture of great acrobatic skills and Messi has great vision. They are different in their own ways so you cannot compare them since they don't have same style of play.

I'm a Messi fan but the Messi fan here was unbearable.

This Messi guy is a Messi fanatic. Not a fan. He contradicts himself at every turn. The argument he uses to discredit Ronaldo or Lewandowski is the same one he employs to credit Messi. Please don't have him on your show again. This episode was annoying

Please do this debate again 😂

Completely agree with your views on football in general and on Cristiano as well mate. Happy to see someone express exactly what I have been thinking for years. Another point i didn’t found highlighted is his overrated big game reputation. I agree that he is a clutch GOALSCORER to some extent, and I give him credit for that Haaland should get inspired by that. Although I think his best clutch games only came when the team played well collectively and he just had to score a tap in most of the times led on a plate for him. Benzema did the same last year to get the ballon d or with a far lessen supporting cast and far more uplifting of that team and with more linking up of play and creativity duties. Nobody can name me a complete footballing performance of his on par with Maradona’s performance vs Belgium in 86 or what Messi did to Manchester United in 2011 in the CL final in terms of 90 minutes contribution. Most of the big games he has scored in and this so called big game reputation was built post 2014 when he already turned himself into a poacher so in those games he only had to put the ball in the back of the net without any playmaking and creativity burden. Like you said, he also got away with far less criticism on his crap performances in big games because his team was good enough to advance or win regardless unlike Barcelona which were far more dependent on Messi’s performance (Even in 2011 when they were at their absolute best who knows what would have happened if Messi didn’t turn into a Maradonian god mode for that slalom goal) UCL semi final 2008 misses a pen in the first leg gets completely overshadowed by Messi at the Nou camp and especially at Old Traford. It took a banger form scholes who was getting terrorized by Messi the whole game to advance in the final. Messi didn’t have this luxury in 2012 against Chelsea(despite flopping with that penalty taking he hit the bar also from outside The box in the last minutes and still got an asssist to iniesta) or in the 2016 copa America final(the latter in which he was the best player on the pitch but his teams weren’t good enough to advance or win without him being decisive) UCl final 2008 vs Chelsea : Nothing special in this performance but scores a nice header so kudos to him. he still wasn’t the best player on the pitch(neither was he in any of his ucl finals) missed his pen in the shootout yet despite winning the trophy thanks to Terry and Anelka lays on the floor trying to take the spotlight rather than congratulating Van der Saar for the shootout. and Rio who had a fantastic defensive performance the whole game. UCL FINAL 2014 horrible performance yet tries to steal the spotlight of di Maria, Bale and Marcelo who carried him and played a fantastic game. Sergio Ramos saved his ass in the last minute(if only Messi had this luxury in 2019 but he got killed by a lot of people even if it was Dembele who should have been blamed for missing that sitter in the first leg) UCL final 2016 similar scenario yet takes his shirt off after the penalty shootout in order to mask his disasterclass . UCL final 2018. After ghosting in both legs of the semi vs Liverpool he puts another disasterclass , gets carried by Benzema, Bale and Modric , the latter who put a fantastic second half midfield performance. i could go on and on for hours (World cup 2018 vs Uruguay if the supply line is not there he was pretty much useless waiting for crosses) Same thing happened a lot internationally the reason he’s a royal World Cup flop. For a guy as obsessed with stats to have 0 goal contributions at the World Cup is pathetic for a player of that standard. Furthermore like you stated to have 0 players of the tournament awards is laughable as well. In 2016 the year he won that tournament he was portrayed like you said as a hero for winning the tournament cheerleading from the side lines. Fernando Santos, Pepe , Quaresma and Nani were more crucial than him for my money and Eder delivered them the title in the final. And Dimitri Payet and Griezmann were both without a shadow of a doubt better than him during that tournam. World Cup 2014 this guy got far less criticism getting knocked out by the USA in t he group stage than Messi losing in extra time in a World Cup final against German. That’s the world we live in. Like you said if anyone makes a top 10 player of all time based of all round technical ability and skill set (dribbling, passing, playmaking, first touch, ball manipulation, vision, footballing iq) no chance would Cristiano make it in a top 10 ever list . Even in his prime his skillset was on a Henry, Baggio, Figo level at best but not at a goat standard. It’s his PR thanks to Real Madrid and persona, clutch goalscoring in big CL games(with caviats),match winning intangibles and some of Messi’s failures which have elevated him with players he doesn’t deserve to be put in the same sentence with.

The Messi fan is just a deluded kid😂😂 "It's not great to see Ronaldo play, even when he was in Madrid" He doesn't give Ronaldo any credit while the Ronaldo fan gives Messi his deserved credit. Now I know who is a real football fan😂

To be honest ,the Messi fan doesn’t accept when he’s wrong

That face this man said Copa America is on par with Euro’s is absolutely nutty

This has aged well 😂 Messi absolute shambles of a season and Ronaldo at 37 is 2nd highest scorer in the PL 🤣

Straight away the ronaldo fan mentioned big international teams yet said spain, but people just need to appreciate both players, everyone has opinions on who is the best, but people become so ignorant they fail to appreciate the other, and they're missing out big time

This messi fan is exactly what all the Twitter warriors sound like. It’s embarrassing ffs

"Lay off the smoke" to a a fit young lad drinking orange juice in the pub 😂😂

I really want to see them debating after messi won world cup😅

Ronaldo fan was way more chill. The Messi player couldn't hear anything bad about Messi

I’m a Messi fan but the Messi fan in this vid was a lil crazy but whenever it’s a Messi vs cr7 it always gets crazy. Yes I do think Messi the goat but I would def put cr7! After Messi none of this halaand and Mbappe bs. Def not same lvl as Messi at dribbling tho but that ain’t even a negative. They obv both have their positives and negatives.

Bro we need a part 2 🤣🤣

When he Said just as good as Messi at dribbling, I would have walked off

Neither is awful to watch. Both are incredible players who have achieved amazing stats and achieved many accolades. And will continue to achieve until they are ready to retire...facts or major big facts?

I'm Messi fan ...but I'll never criticize RONALDO because what he has done is incredible 🙏 He's a legend 👑 Both are 🐐s

Now Messi's won the World Cup I'd like to see him claim Ronaldo will be remembered more hahaha

You guys need to link these two again now so the Man United guy can get clapped on international debate😢😢

As a Madrid fan, if we talk about peak then Messi is a tip better. But I would rather have Ronaldo’s career than Messi’s.

Messi for me. Two unbelievable players absolute ballers. I'm just shocked the real goat James milner is not in this conversation He can play midfield left back goalkeeper you name it Milly's there

bring them back togather now for a 2nd part

That Messi fan is absolutely deluded omg never have him again

Messi wins MOTM without scoring or assisting in a match. Don't think Ronaldo can.

I feel sorry for those fan boys xD. Messi did everything in his prime, so did Ronaldo. Cristiano in Manchester United was one of the most beautiful things i have ever seen, he could drible any1. He was a showman, but he grew up and decided to focus on goals. Why is that a bad thing? Dont you think he deserve to be in the "GOAT" conversation? I mean ofc it will be kids who Will hate on him, but u cannot deny that hes a genius, he owns the Champions league. Its his competition, and thats facts. He was one of the best players in the Premier league,la liga, séria A. Just like you guys say that Messi can drible the whole 2,3,4 and Cristiano cant, i can say that Messi cant score a long range goal. But thats a lie, Messi scored some badass long range goals like Cristiano scored some goals dribling the defence, you cant deny it. So stop being such a kiddo, when these 2 retire, you all gonna cry, even if u didnt like Messi or Cristiano. Those 2 saved lifes by just playing football. Respect the GOATS

Messi fan was mad delusional with some of these, jeez

Wonder if the Ronaldo fan still wants to talk about internationals 😂

Can we all just agree that 1) they are 2 of the best players of all time 2) they have 2 very different play styles 3) the teams/circumstances they've both been in matters and 4) it's a shame they both had to leave La Liga and this last stage in their careers is a throwaway?

The disrespect towards copa america is absolutely laughable.

Would like a part this they are hilarious

Watching this in 2024 makes me laugh 😂

I honestly hate it so much when people don't give respect to ronaldo. Idk who is the best but both of these two are top2 best players ever to exist. It's so delusional.

This debate is stupid they both will go down as two of the greatest of all time. Ronaldo had mental dribbling at Manchester United but from all years combined no one can compete with Messi’s dribbling and just looking at all other attributes , they both have strengths in different areas you cannot discredit either whatsoever

It’s 2024, two years from this post and Messi went on to win the World Cup claiming the best player of the tournament. From his lustrous career Messi has, 8 Balon D’ors 6 golden boots 4 champions leagues 10 la liga titles 7 Copa del Rey among others. Messi has has won 42 trophies and is the only player closely behind the all time player with the most trophies in history Dani Alves(43) Messi left Europe with 702 goals eclipsing Ronaldo with just a goal. Messi has trophies with psg and inter Miami currently and he still show his quality to this day. I’m in Ghana, and I stay up at night to watch Messi. This man has transformed my life, for me the greatest to ever walk the pitch.

It feels like mom and dad fighting over their idols.🤣🤣

Comparing ronaldo and Messi’s dribbling ability even in ronaldos prime is criminal. That’s one thing no body can’t compare to Messi. Dribbling. Nobody.

You just know the messi fan spends most of his time fighting people after having a curry watching the game on a Sunday night😂 Messi and Ronaldo are as good as each other end off...

Bro is trying to argue that Copa America is harder than Euros 💀💀💀😭

Watching this video years later and only just realised after the Ronaldo fan said that the Messi fan looked like he was abiut to cry

He’s not wrong, who is actually excited to watch a poacher score one-touch goals?

I’m not even gonna entertain this video by watching two grown men bicker like children over who they prefer… they’re both the best players we’ve ever seen and been lucky enough to witness them both in our lifetimes

I think this Messi fan was seconds away from killing the other guy

I think the questions were so perfect for this sort of debate because they were very open ended. When you ask whether messi is the best player in football history or whether ronaldo is a better player than Messi there are so many angles from which these questions can be attacked and discussed. I think the right way to think about this debate is that Messi is on an individualistic level a better player than ronaldo and objectively the best individualistic player of all time and what I mean by this is that his individual football skills (IQ, dribbling, vision, follow-through, etc.) are above the rest. However, I think Ronaldo is a better player than Ronaldo from a general sense. By this I mean that at the end of the day, football is a team sport and Ronaldo is better than Messi at playing the team sport that is football. Every team he's been on he's done amazing at and won trophies at. Every team he went to got significantly better and achieved major success in a very short span of time. One would argue that this argument is invalid because we shouldn't blame messi for staying loyal to Barca and I agree with that, but I don't think that its even remotely fair to discount what an absolutely amazing thing Ronaldo was capable of doing at clubs. Recently, Messi went to PSG and I was honestly very hopeful of seeing him succeed and excel because then no one would be able to make the argument that Messi can't adapt and succeed in teams that are not tailored to him. Much to my disappointment, he was not as impressive as Ronaldo when he went to Real, Juve, or Man U. Messi did not improve PSG in any way, rather PSG actually did worse in the UCL and even though they won the League, Messi was only good for making several passes. He was not the goal machine that he's known to be. So the GOAT debate is subjective and from my perspective Ronaldo is the goat because I find results born of hard work rather than talent to be more impressive, but this doesn't mean that I don't think that Messi is the most talented individualistic player of football of all time.

I’m 21 years old and I remember watching messi and Ronaldo growing , this argument between these two who are double my age and double the experience in seeing players more than me , it’s pathetic how they argue and don’t come to agreement it’s crazy

This Messi fan is so toxic.

The ronaldo fan honestly does not have a clue what he is talking about. Not the fact that he is supporting ronaldo but the fact his arguements are completely hollow and contradicts himself many times.

I’ve watched porn star vs priest, left vs right, hunter vs vegan and yet it’s always the football chats that are embarrassing.