Their goal is to show the vision. Reviewers job is to show the product

THAN

Yes becouse its a product for peopl that dont exist . The same as Metavers .

Love The tech reviews you do, trying to make my own Right now, no way near ur level though

So true

As an owner of a Quest 2 I have to say, that Meta does an incredible job with the software. While I do have concerns about privacy, there really is nothing comparable to it, let alone for that price.

@@achannelhasnoname5182 The depth sensor, that you would need to turn this into a somewhat usable AR product, was removed some months ago and is no longer present in the final product. What you see here is literally the same as what Quest2 can do, just with a bit of color added. The resolution is still too low to make it useful as a work environment. Lynx R1 can do this for a fraction of the cost and so can the Pico4. Nreal can do that with substantially more PPD and as real AR overlay without pass-through.

Resolution isn't there yet, early days. The next version should be way better.

@@evolicious pico 4 is monoscopic passthrough reconstruction. It can't compete

The hardware is really quite good - at least it is at sub $500 for the Quest 2. Everyone in the VRChat dev community is still rolling on the floor about legs and the quality of the environments. We can literally build better stuff in a day.

Bruh. This is a 30fps video.

@@evolicious I mean that’s plenty if the idea is just to have a digital office. Things aren’t moving enough that higher frame rates matter.

Through a camera mind you

@@pabbaditya that isnt plenty at all. 30fps will make you sick as hell. you need at least 80FPS. Frame rates matter especially with VR. even a still image needs to be refreshed at minimum 80FPS or the wearer will be sick.

@@nukfauxsho 30fps is still great, remember that the whole cinema industry still runs at 24fps

It is but notice the table is also a very clear tracking target with its well defined grids and lack of gloss as well as huge amounts of light. It's a very best case scenario setup. Would be keen to see it in a darker lot room and a generic Ikea desktop.

Just cool

@@espirite if you look closely, the left screen is actually off the table and yet it's still pretty stable. But you got some points.

It as a depth sensor that map the environment. So yea it’s cheating unlike other AR that try to use software to stabilize.

@@espirite the tracking in the quest 2 works pretty much perfectly in my setup with with dim lights and a white desk, and the pro should be even better. You do need a minimum amount of light tho.

I NEED to know the fps on those magic monitors

@@cavemanvi Limited to whatever this new quest pros refresh limit is, obviously 🧐

@@cavemanvi 120hz

@@whoowhaaat5666 the quest pro is limited to 90Hz.

​@@jss4837 for now, just like the quest 2 I have a feeling it will get bumped to 120

ok

ok

Or ya know… just buy a few extra monitors lmao

@@WhosJudez imagine traveling and carrying three monitors to sit with you in your hotel room genius

@@WhosJudez A monitor setup like this cost you more than 1k which is considerably more expensive then the quest 2. And it's also a lot harder to move or take it with you

I straight up did not notice they weren't there all along... I thought the impressive bit was just being able to see through the headset 🤓

oof, you guys need to get a better display, lol.

I wish I could try a day of coding with it

Me too 😍

Even just three seconds experiencing the really trashy version of this that is currently possible on the Quest 2 will show anyone that this is a very promising use case, and the Quest pro improves on it by making it more comfortable to wear and adding color pass through so that you don’t feel like you’re disconnected from the world around you. But it’s a very long technological journey to get to a point where it gets mass adoption. It’s just too weird looking at this point for normal people to wear it at a coffee shop or something, and the experience isn’t quite polished enough to replace computer monitors even at home. But hey, we used to have 640x480 CRT screens that only displayed shades of green, and look where we are 25 years later.

It will be unusable due to the low resolution

$1500 would buy you 3 easy-to-carry displays that would actually be viable for work.

@@neotim5 This is AR not VR. Virtual Desktop is not the same thing here.

@@neotim5 this is new. There has been nothing near this fidelity.

@@Rinesi didnt realize its AR haha, my bad thanks

@@hastyscorpion Incorrect. Nreal, Lynx R1, and the Pico4 all have far better clarity and can achieve a far better pass-through effect. Even microsoft Hololense was doing this years ago, lol.

@@neotim5 are you blind?

The Zuck Man is ahead of the curve as usual --- he's a real visionary

@@fredwerza3478 What a dumb shill comment. Not even remotely true. Zuck has stolen every IP and technology he uses today. Facebook has never innovated and Facebook itself wasn't even created by him! He stole it from his friend in college.

VR headsets are also 3d TVs. Like the marketing gimmick TVs that you used to have to wear glasses for? There are apps on the Oculus store that simulate being in a movie theater, and the movies are all in stunning 3D.

Wearing VR stuff for a long time can be annoying, I think it'll be more adopted, but monitors and screens will still be needed and wanted

Mark zuckerberg is a true visionary & an intelligent industry leader . That is why he is going all in on the METAVERSE because he is ahead of his time & he can see the potential of this bew technology that we are going to be using in the future.

If meta's own employees refuse to, then it's a pretty good guess you won't either.

@@evolicious you’re really just hating on meta on every comment lmfao

@@evolicious according to Mark, employees have been able to comfortable use the device for multiple hours to do work

Oh shoot Tuesday news day

@@Shiffo You think Mark would admit that he can't get his employees to work in XR? LMFAO. dude, Zuckerberg lies, like every fucking time he opens his mouth.

Assault rifles don't do this but ok

Except it's clarity is not good enough to actually do any office work. It's an overpriced Quest2 with quite possibly the worst design engineering from meta yet.

@@itsmazyar3163 I’d rather have an assault rifle than this, so good point

@@benstagram97 Assault rifles don't have facebook installed, so yes, way better choice.

@@benstagram97 agreed

Those headsets are pretty small!

@@meestuinier4486 yeah but imagine even closer to normal glasses size

@@saem.s normal size glasses with that level of VR is a total game-changer

@@fredwerza3478 definitely

@@saem.s Then you are talking about even smaller FOV, which you don't want.

No one's bashing the hardware, bashing meta is valid. You want Facebook tracking your literal every move with no choice?

@@subscriptions6780 thats literally done by half of the companies on the internet, its nothing new.

@@serbiagamingiscool515 yeah you're right The websites on the internet can track where my eyes go where my hands go they have a full video feed to my house with a full 3D render of my house they know every application that I use on my phone every website I visit everything I download all the people I talk to very normal for typical websites these days to have all of that information I'm sorry I totally take back my concern. Not to mention there are alternatives out there and exactly what has been shown in this video has been possible for maybe six years, no information selling required

@@subscriptions6780 Metaverse was a word before Facebook renamed their company to Meta. They renamed their company because of that word lol

@@subscriptions6780 bashing meta alone is one of the most invalid things to do

this is a headset showcasing how society could revolutionize productivity. This isnt a nuclear war threat. Calm down

@@LiveBenchmarks that's the point...you don't realize it until it's too late. 🙃

@@LiveBenchmarks I know they are not going to rule over humans someday. But if in future this technology becomes "The everyday thing" like smartphones are today. Meta will not only dominant the market, but they will also go to any extent to eliminate competition. They will establish a monopoly. And any monopoly in any field is always bad for the end user.

@@harsh_kumar_rai The conversation is all over the place. Some people think VR is stupid while others are worried for humanity if it gets too big. Extreme ranges

Same with me --- I need this bad ! ❤

Good luck putting 1500$ towards this.

@@fujinshu a cheap quest 2 is totally capable of doing this already. The only difference is the Pro has better passthrough cameras which can be added to a Quest 3 without adding too much to its price.

@@fujinshu You act like everyone is poor and living paycheck to paycheck... There are many many people out there who can afford to purchase a $1,500 product. Plus if they are in the business field and work on computers all day, then this could be an investment for them. People buy $1,500 laptops every day.

@@Requiemes The Quest Pro has a sharper resolution than quest 2 which is VERY important, probably the most important aspect of a headset. If you are working on this thing for long hours daily, then you are going to need a sharper resolution than a quest 2 to prevent eye fatigue.

order quest pro its good

@@samadams6066 it's not tho

I am a little bit doubt it would make your life more minimalistic though

I don’t think you know what minimalizing is

That's literally how every XR device has worked for years, lol.

Its like the first iron man movie when hes building the mark II

took me until this comment to realize he wasn't talking about the apple product

@@ethyr oh haha. This is the apple effect. They can just take ownership of entire words and make them theirs XD

And holy crap that's looking good

same

This is XR, not AR/VR. There is no such thing as "full brain interfacing tech", and never will be. The human brain doesn't work like what you saw in the matrix movies and the anime you saw. The human brain actually only has a handful of electrical impulses that can be "emulated" with. Heat, Cold, and Wet, as well as the nervous system for pain (that would be illegal and unethical to use) can be simulated with sent impulses. With input limited to only 3 different impulses in a 1/0 phase. So something like a robotic hand than can move in 6-axis, and open/close the hand. Go lookup neuralink and Valve's BCI tech who are both very much invested in neurology and using these inputs and outputs. We'll never be able to do the things you saw in the movie or the anime. But we do have presence in modern VR, and that's all that counts. FYI, facebook didn't put "metaverse" on the map when they don't even have a metaverse or know what a metaverse is. VRChat and Robot are the only current real metaverses. Second-life that went offline years ago was one of the first. Also, this isn't Zuck or his team's technology, this is microsoft HL team who did all the heavily lifting hardware and software development for the Quest Pro. Before that was Brandon Iribe and Oculus who built the Quest system in 2018. They all left Facebook when the Quest 1 was launched. No one wants to work for Facebook.

It's really not.

@@evolicious right getting there, first it got to get as small as a pair of glasses

@@whoowhaaat5666 Glasses won't have the FOV that you would want, unfortunately. You can try it with the NReal glasses, they are available right now. XR and AR really are not as cool in actual use as the movies make it seem. We are still very far away from making those technologies viable outside of impressing a client with a virtual model for 5min.

@@evolicious Nreal field of view problem isn’t the form factor, as a matter of fact the sun shade like form factor on the Nreal isn’t being utilized,if you look at the Nreal you would notice that there’s a smaller transparent glasses under the sun glasses in the front,that small glass is the AR tech. Yes I believe in the distant future AR glasses in the size of sunglasses can have very large field of view. Regular sunglasses have a large field of view so there should be no limitations of making a AR glass in the future with the same FOV as a sunglass. If the money keeps pouring in I’ll say the next 12-13 years we’ll see something like the science fiction. I did tried the Meta quest pro at Best Buy and the AR FOV was large and immersive, it’s early days and I did saw the potential and I really believe that one day the tech will shrink and become even cooler. Like I’ve been saying for years I think VR need light field technology tho for eye comfort and mass adoption, I won’t pick up VR till we see something like that. Look up Creal light field tech to get idea what I’m talking about.

@@evolicious I suggest you getting a job

This new headset seems like a real game-changer

@@fredwerza3478 it's just hololense 3, kiddos.

He took a dump on this vr headset in other videos he’s an Apple fanboy meta did all these features first

damn... forgetting the quest pro just like that :( damn you apple... hype virus

Quest 3 is actually higher quality than the Quest Pro, and overall it's kinda better in almost every way.

Quest 3 is even better and people says its shit now

@@casualintrovert207 it hurts me on a personal level, as a quest pro owner, cause you are literally correct

Because it doesn't represent the use-case experience. You won't be able to read text on this device, unless you like getting a headache in 10min. Quest Pro is built as a communication tool for in the metaverse between offices and clients. It's literally built to be a live zoom meeting device, but for facebook.

Like most tech things, MKBHD is using it wrong and giving people a different impression of what the device is actually viable for. It's best to get a review video form someone that actually understands tech, rather than someone that is paid to read the brochure.

@@evolicious im literally reading this on my quest 1 right now, dude.

@@BrockCheddar i have a quest 2 and can use my desktop computer and write code on it. Its clear a lot of people bashing it never used one

It's not though, look at the wobble.

@@evolicious stopped capping

@@evolicious I did manage to try it at Best Buy it’s very stable to me I couldn’t break it or detect any wobble. How did you manage to get it to wobble? I was shaking my head violently to mess it up but the holograms didn’t move.

@@whoowhaaat5666 he's only bashing the product because it was made by Meta. Don't listen to him lol

@@thatsmyjam8403 yea I later figured, I saw him spamming other comments

Trust me, it's actually not that great in real use. Varjo XR3 did a great job showing the world that XR workflow is a gimmick.

It's really not when you actually use an XR device.

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@@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alot 🙏🙏 God bless you.

Same bro...

It's not, even meta employees refuse to use it becasue of how bad it is.

That's not how VR works. Your eyes work exactly how they work irl, in the HMD. There is light bending depth being used to simulate the virtual world.

This is XR, not AR. Also, XR workflow has been around for years with the hololense1/2, varjo XR3, vive pro eye, and more. It's a gimmick no one likes. Meta is out of touch and trying to create a BS device that will jumpstart their order fulfillments of eye and facial tracking metadata to advertisers and the like.

I think an iconic feature of the Vision Pro is that it DOESN’T have controllers.

@@user-fg1nt9vi7c Being a feature doesn't justify the price Assuming that's what you mean by that I keep having people justify its existence and price by its massive issues being "features"

@@officiallyanthony I’m not justifying the price. It’s a first gen product. Buy it or don’t, there’s nothing on the market like it. I’m just saying it not coming with controllers isn’t an argument for it being a bad product.

@@user-fg1nt9vi7c if the Vision Pro is successful it will drive other VR companies to do the same, the Quest 4 might not have controllers in the box, might be impossible to self repair, might go up massively in price, might try to lock you into the Meta eco system All because they saw that people still bought a massively overpriced headset that did those things It happened to phones, it's very possible it'll happen to VR too And there is plenty on the market like it, the Quest 3 does everything it does except eye tracking, the Vision Pro however doesn't do half the things the Quest 3 does and it's immensely more expensive

Works the same on this device. In fact, quest pro was made in partnership with microsoft.

Exactly bro

AVP has controller support

@jamesgarrett7844 Not talking about the same kind of controller... I mean, tracked VR controllers, not a console one.

Better? You haven't used any oh these.. .

@@marcrodet4900 First of all, "any of these", second I own a HTC vive so know how VR started, and the Quest 3 so know where it is at. While you are correct that I haven't used the vision pro (just like you or anybody who isn't a youtuber) I know that only the display and pass through cameras being better (still not perfect) will not change my viewpoint in calling the vision pro overpriced garbage. It's still not lifelike if it was I would say the price is justified. There are way better PC VRs for that price and you can buy haptic feedback and full body tracking with that.

How is it

This is not a monitor replacement, the clarity isnt good enough to actually read text for a more than a few minutes at a time.

I would say yes, definitely. I'm using this on my Quest 2 already, and for me it's perfectly fine. And the Quest Pro seems to have slightly better display clarity.

No

@@NeoFighter91 boi, don't lie to people. Even the Varjo with the highest clarity displays in a HMD money can buy are still not good enough for reading at long periods of time.

@EVOLICIOUS That's not what I said. All I'm saying is, that for me, the resolution is good enough to read stuff relatively fine on those screens. I didn't say, that I would do this all day.

@@NeoFighter91 But the whole point of this device is to be sitting down and reading/working all day. So yea, thanks for supporting the point I'm making. FYI, Quest Pro is reported to have worse overall clarity, but better edge-to-edge clarity (due to pancake lens). Go watch the Tested review from Norm, he has the best review of it so far.

Ayo hoezaay 😳

Damnn when are you continuing MCBCMKBHD or something like that

This new headset seems like a real game-changer

This is for business and prosumer tho. The general consumer version Quest 3 is expected to appear next year.

The future is something that is always coming but never arrives

@@514musique Yes to a man in the 90s a smartphone is his future. So yea the future is not a place or destination it’s always coming.

Dude that’s what I’m thinking. Instead of a whole headset gimme a pair of like google glass and I’m sold.

Where would the computer be then? Glasses for this tech is far, far away. Nreal is the closest we have and you need to be tethered to your phone or computer to use it.

@@trevorallen7554 Apple is aiming for that, and NReal already released theirs. The problem is there is still no actual viable use for AR other than automotive HUD and some cool 3d models to show clients. It's a gimmick for now and the market might take another 10 years to adopt it better. Still need mobile processing power for AR to get better, as well as micro-displays and battery technology. AR and XR have a very, very long way to go.

Apple VP only has 1 monitor max...

@@gilly9209 Yes, but the monitor is the size of a mountain range so it blows your mind.

lol, sure buddy. Everyone but the insane sociopath billionaire with tanking stock is wrong. All the economists and traders shorting meta right now are all gonna loose billions becasue one idiot that doesn't even know how to analyze said otherwise in a youtube comment.

He wants you to work for him apply for a job now

Plus side is no one can see what's on your monitors haha. You can even have a virtual pet on your table while you work. The next 10 years are gonna be wild. I can't wait.

Metrics have shown that productivity suffers when using XR. Which is why companies that were using XR for workflow, no longer do. Meta is behind on that fact, and of course, no company is going to allow facebook data fetch requests on their network to begin with. Quest Pro is built for a market that doesn't exist because it's CEO is an insane sociopath.

@@evolicious Dude get a f-cking life lmaooo

With remote on the rise no one will be in the office!

Horizons is RP1 but the book ends in the middle.

This is XR. A mixture of VR and AR. The consumer focus is still on a RP1 knockoff that falls short of every social integration platform ever made. The main focus is selling eye tracking and facial tracking data.