Michael Voris & Church Militant | THE BRENDAN OPTION 157

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Michael Voris & Church Militant | THE BRENDAN OPTION 157

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“Church Militant or Michael Voris haven’t clarified (Boris’ dismissal), and people who have asked for clarification have, by some, been criticised for lack of charity… It may be reasonably pointed out that Michael (Boris) & Church Militant were ruthless enough in following up stories if similar kind with regard to Church figures”.
Join Fr. Brendan Kilcoyne for episode 157 of 'The Brendan Option' where he discusses the dismissal of the founder of Church Militant, Michael Voris.
“I wish we could get to a more genuine Christian place, because i feel the way we go on, when someone in leadership slips…it’s not healthy. It happens in this witch hunt that goes on in the Secular sphere as well, that it encourages shamelessness. The emergence of the least admirable, and that in terms of making the strongest survive, it placed the strengths that you may not necessarily want in a leader”.
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@bedar6961 8 ай бұрын

I've been praying 3 Rosaries for Michael Voris since he's announced he was leaving CM. We have a man down, let us pray for him.

@user-ob6un3it9w 8 ай бұрын

I’ve been praying for him too. I believe he will come back stronger than ever and God will use his talents to help a lot of people and build up the church.

@MichElle-zc9tu 8 ай бұрын

@@user-ob6un3it9w 👍🏻💪🏻🙏🏻

@moiraeastman1997 8 ай бұрын

Thank you. I’ll pray too.

@jamesmorris5537 8 ай бұрын

100% the BEST of us have our personal demons

@splinterbyrd 7 ай бұрын

Tbh I doubt he was ever up, he's been on the ground all his life, hence his violent homophobia. He won't get up until he learns to love himself a bit more the way Jesus loves him

@richrosati7146 8 ай бұрын

Fr., you spoke what’s in my heart. I was a huge CM fan and attended many of their conferences. I met with Voris at these conferences and felt that he was genuine in his faith. I am praying for him because I hate to see a faithful man fall. Thank you for your insight.

@MichElle-zc9tu 8 ай бұрын

loser lucifer attacks those who bring the most souls to God Most High as he has the lukewarm and weaklings in his tight fist.

@bobroleke527 8 ай бұрын

Watch

@FlaNative3 8 ай бұрын

Was he really a man of faith? CM was spewing a lot of criticism and vitriol at a lot of people while ignoring the PLANK in their own eye! I understand we all want strong leaders with strong convictions. But when we ignore our own sin, this is the result. I can barely believe MV thought he would get away with this indefinitely. I pray he finds the light again.

@geneeverett7855 8 ай бұрын

Plano in his own eye? What did he do?

@FlaNative3 8 ай бұрын

@@geneeverett7855Google Michael Voris and Church Militant. It's too much to explain in a YT video comment.

@maireglynn6295 8 ай бұрын

We must pray for him....he needs prayers at this time

@AveMaria.GratiaPlena 8 ай бұрын

Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.

@cathyaiura3401 8 ай бұрын

Absolutely right on. "Fight your way back to a better place...maybe a stronger one.." A very wise priest once said, "you don't shoot your own wounded."

@nicholasmargagliano1833 8 ай бұрын

Who said that? I like it

@mrdaniel818 8 ай бұрын

But you would shoot an infiltrator or a corrupted person. Whatever happened to God's Justice? Where is the shame? Don't people feel disgusted by this man's lifestyle? Haven't people read Sodom and Gomorrah? Or why all the homosexuals died when Our Lord Jesus was born? In the early church some did heavy penances in the African desert for some heavy sins!

@user-pj6db7es1b 4 ай бұрын

As well as Father Caropi

@maryannmcrae5392 8 ай бұрын

Praying for Michael Voris

@davidjones5547 8 ай бұрын

Voris is scum, plain and simple

@pancho5375 8 ай бұрын

His name is Gary.

@gerrymccarthy9568 8 ай бұрын

Completely agree Father. I prayed for him at Mass this morning. No one is beyond redemption.

@Neb-ie5mj 8 ай бұрын

Yes, thank you for saying this. I think a lot of us are believing we are beyond redemption.

@bahr-pq4uo 8 ай бұрын

David Gordon on his channel revealed the whole truth as he worked there for 3 years.

@lindanugent4904 8 ай бұрын

We must pray for all, all in our church, a church divided against itself shall fall, a family divided against itself shall fall, please , please pray for all in the church, pray for Pope, cardinals all of them, bishops all of them, priests all of them, i pray for my abuser l pray for his soul, I'm not his judge I was told by a truly holy monk to forgive the sinner but not the sin as it was evil and if satan but the person is a child of God to be judged by God.... Father none of us are perfect I wish we were but alas no. I'm trying so hard to stay in the faith and feel compelled to do so but it's not easy..🙏

@MichElle-zc9tu 8 ай бұрын

@@bahr-pq4uo he crossed the line by exposing Church Militant sins instead of being charitable and Christlike. If he was just slightly patient on his way home, pondered over it all after praying and asked The Holy Spirit, it would have a different ending with David but he acted swiftly on his emotions, impulse and human behaviour of getting even instead of leaving it all to God who says “Vengeance is Mine”. Too late.

@bahr-pq4uo 8 ай бұрын

@@MichElle-zc9tu I think he exposed them AFTER they made him resign. i appreciate such whole character he s either black or white no colours in between . I read a comment saying that he is not on good tem with his brother and his brother s wife . do you know the reason?.

@robertyerger4179 8 ай бұрын

Thank you. Always there is a place in our hearts for more compassion and more forgiveness.

@ChristineNiles1 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for this, Fr. Kilcoyne. May God bless you and your ministry.

@michellecampbell7540 8 ай бұрын

HELLO CHRISTINE!!! So pleased to see you on this comment section. Try to enjoy your blessed Advent/Christmas with the children. Your work at CHURCH MILITANT is wonderful. Prayers and Rosaries coming your way dear Christine!!! ❤🎄❤

@petrasant5495 8 ай бұрын

Christmas Greetings from Merthyr Tydfil, Wales. IESU BENDIGEDIG! (Wonderful Jesus)

@vickiecummings1443 8 ай бұрын

Amen, Fr., you hit the nail right on the head. I’m glad truly someone of substance has come to the defenses of not just Michael Voris, but Christine Niles and Church Militant. Michael Voris truly helped so many defunct Catholics return and continue to support our Catholic faith, speaking from personal experience. And now, we must help him, Christine and the rest of Church Militant return stronger than ever.

@StarGeezerTim 8 ай бұрын

I just found you, Father. I absolutely love your delivery. My family has its roots in Ireland, and in my own head I could imagine having you as a parish priest. Your calm demeanor and sage wisdom are soothing to the soul. I subscribed and look forward to hearing more.

@c_mccamley 8 ай бұрын

That episode will certainly help your algorithm!! Well done. The truth spoken in charity. Good man Fr B.

@KW-mz4pn 8 ай бұрын

Father your 💯 right!!! Our system is unforgiving!

@mariacook8540 8 ай бұрын

Praying for Michael

@Bornhunting777 8 ай бұрын

Yes, we all need a prayer! And we need help from Jesus Christ! Please pray for Michael, thank you.

@CH-Wisdom 8 ай бұрын

Remove and separate people from their sin and all of us need to quake in our boots. Michael's humanity is a lesson to us about the power of evil when taking on a Catholic ministry...particularly a very public ministry. We should be praying for him but putting the lens on the log in our own eyes. As a retired Catholic elementary school principal, I can assure you that if you do not pray with your staff and stay ever vigilant in the knowledge that Satan is prowling among you, falling is inevitable.

@fairyspunfibers9098 8 ай бұрын

Beautifully said! The devil roams about the world like a lion, seeking whom he may devour. And not one of us escapes his attention!

@barbaragreen7802 8 ай бұрын

You have been the first level head reagarding all of this. To expect perfection out of mere creatures is a hopeless venture. We all fall short, but can we admit our fault and get back up and continue down the road to salvatoin.

@albieinangelus921 8 ай бұрын

Your comment to expect perfection from mere creatures is a hopeless venture is so true. Thank you for synthesizing the thought for me.

@day1678 8 ай бұрын

Love the Blessed Mother! Never, ever let go of her guiding hand that will lead us to Jeus. Pray as never before - especially the Rosary (daily) for her intentions.

@davidphillipson9569 8 ай бұрын

I could not agree with you more! Thank you very much Father.

@myrphkuhns7055 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Father! I agree with and am inspired with all you said. I also like Micheal and Christine. GOD BLESS YOU❤❤❤

@TheKiwibirder 8 ай бұрын

Father, I really enjoyed this video and am so glad to have found you. I’m a Kilcoyne myself, and my son’s name is Brendan!

@brendankilcoyne282 8 ай бұрын

good choice of name!! Glad to hear of more Kilcoynes.

@christinahughes196 8 ай бұрын

Thank you, Father! Your video randomly popped up on my page so I listened to you out of curiosity, having never heard of you before. What a delight, a truly refreshingly honest approach to this situation. I believe you are absolutely correct and I believe your suggestion on how to proceed in such events is right on the mark. I wish many other commentators would hear you. You definitely have a new subscriber in me!

@bigbassbomb88 8 ай бұрын

Enjoy watching the back catalogue of videos.

@danahammele7439 8 ай бұрын

Me too!

@PETERJOHN101 8 ай бұрын

As a former Protestant, I keep abreast of current events throughout Christendom due to the vision I received of Christ in my home in the Spring of 2010. I have not become Roman Catholic but rather lean to the Orthodoxy in matters of theology. I have watched Voris from time to time and, knowing of his history, marvelled at the grace of God I saw in his outreach to others. I hear the wisdom of the Lord in the words presented here and would only add that it is best to avoid a view of the heroic in others and to place greater focus on the Lord himself. God bless!

@Kitiwake 8 ай бұрын

What's a"Roman" Catholic? Don't you mean Catholic?

@sliglusamelius8578 8 ай бұрын

Describe your vision please if you don't mind, thanks.

@PETERJOHN101 8 ай бұрын

@@Kitiwake Orthodox also refer to themselves as Catholic, thus the distinction.

@PETERJOHN101 8 ай бұрын

@@sliglusamelius8578 At 4:25 pm on May 12, 2010 the Lord Jesus stood in my living room, fully robed with hands by his side. He appeared to be very tall, wearing sandals, and was visible head to toe. I did not see his face as it was concealed by a cloth on which the pattern of a spiral galaxy was imprinted, like embroidery. I later came to understand this cloth over the Lord's face was a Sadarium, perhaps there to protect me from expiring while in his presence. I share this rarely with others however my readers are aware of it due to the fact we are very late in time and the harvest is about to begin. God bless.

@bedar6961 8 ай бұрын

Dear Peter, please find a Traditional Catholic Tridentine Mass. Please go find our Lord, truly present in His Holy Tabernacle. Time is little. Convert, become a Saint and help us fight the evil that has infiltrated our Lord Jesus Christ's Church and the world. I will be praying for you for ever

@michaelburgess6556 7 ай бұрын

"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God, have mercy on me, a sinner." This is my constant prayer, Father Brendan. Wonderful reflection. Thanks a million. May God bless you, Father. All concerned are in my prayers. 🙏🕊

@B1TKZH47 8 ай бұрын

People fall because sin has more appeal than repentance. When that changes, there's hope .

@brendanquinn6894 8 ай бұрын

You make an excellent point Fr Brendan.

@edwardclifford6743 8 ай бұрын

We must pray for him as well as all the priest and bishops that have fallen. They need our prayers. The prayer is they convert their hearts and change their ways. Penance reparation are the key, both require the recognition and the commitment to not fail again

@maureensullivan8898 8 ай бұрын

It's been said that we get the leaders we deserve. Given our immoral society and the ungodly behavior that is widely accepted as normal, but greatly offends the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary, it's no wonder that we have the leaders we have, both secular and religious. We need to pray for the people you mentioned, and we also need to pray and fast for an increase of holy priests, holy Bishops, holy Cardinals, holy Religious and we need to pray for the Pope.

@edwardclifford6743 8 ай бұрын

Well said and 100 agreed

@moiraeastman1997 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Brendan, I think your comments on Church Militant and Michael Voris, and the wider issues you raise are very balanced and very appropriate.

@dermotquigley356 8 ай бұрын

A wise Confessor once told me that the Souls in Heaven are there because of Persistency in Prayer. I suggest the Holy Rosary, which has been praised by so many Popes.

@galwayvintagecollection3401 8 ай бұрын

Our current Pope suggested the medical intervention. He also is forefront at pushing the 1 world religion called Christlam. Simply put Christians, Islam and Jews. Why are you not talking about this heresy ?.

@laftch 8 ай бұрын

Wise words. Thank you Father. I'll be watching more.

@brmark7281 8 ай бұрын

Well said Father. We are all weak, and we all fall in one way or another. So why should we be surprised when failure happens. We need more prayer and compassion. I still work on this, a life long process.

@gimeoden8309 8 ай бұрын

Amen, Very well said and appropriate. Details are needed to clear away the gossip and start the repentance, forgiveness, and rconciliation process. Amen.

@thomasjorge4734 8 ай бұрын

Please remember the tragic case of British Minister of War John Profumo. With the forgiving grace of his wonderous wife, he later lived a life of Profound Penance. Praised be God!

@stevensonrf 8 ай бұрын

Thank God for the practical wisdom of the Irish.

@galwayvintagecollection3401 8 ай бұрын

"Practical wisdom of the Irish" you say. The same Irish who took the medical intervention at the request of their gov and Catholic leaders including the one who is at the forefront of introducing Christlam and one world gov. I pray fellow Catholic that your discernment may be guided more by the Holy Spirit than man.

@stevensonrf 8 ай бұрын

@@galwayvintagecollection3401 To be sure, to be sure 😇

@user-jd7bw6xk1l 8 ай бұрын

Just found you Father. What a gift! Aside from your sound content, I find you hilarious.

@MegaMackproductions 8 ай бұрын

there are times when you fall and you just cant get up. I hope that Mr. Voris, by the grace of God, can overcome whatever has gotten hold of him. thats such a tough thing to go through.

@dominicpresta5637 8 ай бұрын

Father, your wisdom is intelligible to even the less educated (myself) which shows how wise and educated by the grace of God you truly are! THANK YOU!

@roypeaslee1305 8 ай бұрын

I always admired anyone who confessed their mistakes with sincerity and promised to atone and strive to do better. I believe that you are correct in saying that Michael Voris should bear that burden not some spokesperson. I would still listen to him because he was on top of the truth.

@hligoaindia7647 8 ай бұрын

So beautifully said!

@brucejohnson4462 8 ай бұрын

We watched the talk between EMJ and Mike Parrot where we learn Christine Niles has got some vicious troubles of her own in media. Betrayal is pretty tough to recover from. The Dave Gordon version of events seems the best thought through. I find it difficult to think CM can recover from this. I can forgive Michael Voris for this betrayal. But I can't with a clear conscience look to him for leadership in anything. I myself muttled around for a half century as if I was just a pagan. An old womanizing biker living the life of one determined to pry open the doors of hell that I may crawl in. I know sin. I feel I myself drove the spikes through our blessed lords hands and feet. I must repent and beg for God's mercy. So must Michael. It don't seem like either of us is one to follow. We must do our repentance both public and private. All glory to God my prayers are with Michael. Our Lady please console your son Michael and help him through this difficult time into eternity with God our Father forever!

@petrasant5495 8 ай бұрын

That was good ! Peace be with you. Greetings from Merthyr Tydfil, Wales. IESU BENDIGEDIG. (Wonderful Jesus)

@pennyjohnharrison66 8 ай бұрын

EMJ wrote a book a few years back on some of the troubles with MV, and the Restoring the Faith YT fills out how vicious things had gotten in the last couple of years with many people being hurt and damaged in various ways. Prayers offered that MV receives the grace to stay in the background and do his penance and gains peace and wisdom.

@MsHburnett 8 ай бұрын

Michael was hell bent on anti homosexual rants . That hypocrisy and duplicity all while living a double life? Now he's not a priest. He hasn't taken a vow of chastity. He's proof people can't pray the gay away.

@brucejohnson4462 8 ай бұрын

@@MsHburnett that is undeniable

@MichElle-zc9tu 8 ай бұрын

Thank you but please do not speak for Michael, while remembering what Saul did to Lord Jesus Christ and His followers. Blessed Advent to you.

@medardotomaquin8248 8 ай бұрын

I surfed on youtube for Catholic content a few years back and stumbled upon "Church Militant". I became an avid follower of the apostolate. It's sad and tragic as to what happened to the founder who was a staunch critic, and rightfully so, of practicing homosexuals in the hierarchy, esp. McCarrick. He himself did make a confession about a similar past and vowed to change his ways which accdg to him was the main reason for the creation of CM. It's difficult to understand how he was able to live and stomach a double-standard life but who am I to judge? As commonly said, " Don't kick somebody when he is down". May his "demise" remind us of our own failings despite our efforts to be virtuous, (Simul justus et peccator).

@theresedomladovac7649 8 ай бұрын

I 1000% agree with everything you said father. My sentiments too. I always liked Michael Voris and I feel sad for him. So I will keep him in my prayers. I find some others like Dr Taylor Marshall arrogant and prideful that bothers me. But for some reason I never felt that way when I listened to Michael. I always try to pray “there but for the Grace of God go I”

@charliegrimm6505 3 ай бұрын

As I was listening to Michael Voris pouring his heart out, I was reminded of the Biblical account of the prodigal son. Thank you, Mr. Voris, for your candor and your courage to share; you will be missed from media format, but prayer will make you strong.

@joseballesterosdelapuerta9048 8 ай бұрын

👏👏👏beautiful and sound words, Father. Thank you so much from Spain. God bless you. I pray for MV and CM.

@patrickodonnell4109 8 ай бұрын

Well said, Father. Personally, I stopped watching Michael a couple of years ago. His bombastic style was a bit much. Will keep him in prayer.

@jenyoung2473 8 ай бұрын

Me too as I found it quite oppressive.

@chaplainhyena1523 8 ай бұрын

Subscribed. Thank you Fr. Brendan

@soroushfetkovich5084 8 ай бұрын

God bless you dear father.

@seamusweber8298 8 ай бұрын

A great presentation. The court of the Internet is very unforgiving. And you are right to say that the standards that CM used to expose others, should have been applied by themselves to themselves. All of us have weaknesses and failings. But the vast majority of us are not commentators like CM are. Therefore if there had been a voluntary and public disclosure - this would have mitigated somewhat the sense of betrayal, hurt, anger that is out there. (But let's be clear even a voluntary and public disclosure would not have remedied some peoples sense of anger and betrayal and dare I say gloating). Personally I never really liked CMs way of presenting information. I found them aggressive, and there is always a sense of false sanctimony, about them. Voris and Niles presentation style was highly condemnatory - they seemed to be personally offended a lot of the time. This style of presenting alienated me. As I understand it there was no voluntary and public disclosure in this case. The take away here is that if you judge using the Internet, then you'd better be prepared to be judged by the Internet. If each of our own behaviours were open to comment by the Internet jury, how many of us would pass that test? We do need to try to give people more benefit of the doubt, but at the same time the person who falls needs to be sincere and genuinely contrite. Its a hard balance to measure on both sides. Thanks Father for a great presentation

@michelle7185 8 ай бұрын

Balanced and merciful, thanks.

@captainquint25 8 ай бұрын

Given the recent events, I've changed my perspective on Church Militant, forgiveness and avoiding hypocrisy. None of us are insulated from sin. All of us struggle with things. May God strengthen and support Voris and the people at Church Militant.

@8475143117 8 ай бұрын

you are SPOT ON!

@eguogwuhenrietta9713 8 ай бұрын

Yes,you are very right father,.. I love your take on the matter.

@bjmiksic9630 8 ай бұрын

I agree with you 100%. I could not have said it better myself.

@sjj39 8 ай бұрын

Thank you Fr, you remind me of the compassionate but devout priest of my childhood.

@Kitiwake 8 ай бұрын

Thanks father.

@susanclohosey7474 8 ай бұрын

Yes I agree that as Christian Catholics we need to be much more charitable- especially online - if we are to draw people in to the faith. For goodness sake we all sin, we all fall that is why we have the sacrament of reconciliation. It has always disheartened me when I see Catholic commentators online with a sizeable platform on social media condemning their brothers or sisters for various reasons and especially when they have fallen as spectacularly as Michael Voris appears to have . Passing judgement just for click bait really , to boost their own platform - when we should be extending a hand to lift those who have fallen, praying for them and with them. I think if you are in a public Catholic apostolate the enemy is even more voracious and that is when we need to pray harder, but that is usually when we don't feel like praying at all, and that's what prayer partners are for; to hold us up when we can't stand. To be a shield when we don't have the energy to pray ourselves. That's what Catholic community is.

@galwayvintagecollection3401 8 ай бұрын

Did you take the vaccine and if not why are you not more vocal re it's real intent.

@vickikesterson-mccormick7146 8 ай бұрын

This has been coming on for a couple of years. I imagine he was targeted by a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Beware of those who flatter you. Your ego will prepare your fall. Praying that God heals everyone that is hurting over this huge loss. We are now missing our great soldier who has been beating the drum to wake everyone up to all of the sexual and financial corruption from the Detroit Archdiocese to the Vatican in Rome.

@theresagoldschmidt8740 8 ай бұрын

There but the grace of God go all of us. Falling into sin- whatever it is. I noticed a while back that he had changed his hairstyle and the way he dressed and did think it was odd at the time.

@aloyalcatholic5785 8 ай бұрын

I am still angry about the many untrue things Voris and Niles said and "reported" about Traditional orders and catholics that attend their churches/chapels. Detraction and calumny are a serious thing.

@mikezart1 8 ай бұрын

I think the root problem seems that we have not seen the repentance and reparation you talked about. How many of those who have done terrible acts against Chasity have apologized? How many Bishops have said I am sorry my dear children I have failed you? Come do penance and reparation with me for we have offended the most Holy Trinity. Let us do what Mary has asked to do in so many apparitions. Prayer, Penance and Reparation. It is in this humility we can convert ourselves by the grace of the Holy Spirit to holiness and love. Something the world is not seeing in us. Son of the living God have mercy on me a sinner.

@MelanieCruz33 8 ай бұрын

I like what you have to say, Father. It sounds like genuine charity. I wonder perhaps "who has not fought themselves back" to where Our Lord wants us. These are grown men, no sin against children. They know right from wrong. At least one should have one chance of recovering sufficient grace to return to what he was good at. We must continue to pray for this openness and may we all just go back to our work for the glory of God and our own salvation. Thank you. God bless you.

@1woksape606 8 ай бұрын

We are in the greatest spiritual warfare and destitution in all of human history. This is a God vs. evil war to the death worldwide. *Our daily Godliness and prayerfulness are a matter of life and death from now on. * The cowardly and diabolical abandonment of exorcisms, spiritua warfare, deliverances, St. Michael prayers, and Godly Holy Spirit infilling has caused all the troubles of the world, past and present

@rgalonso3 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for your wisdom Fr. Brendan.

@marknelson8435 8 ай бұрын

My problem with Voris is not this fall. My problem with Voris is his vehement attacks on the SSPX, who also may have their problems, but who also do great work.

@luke9747 8 ай бұрын

If you believe strongly that the SSPX is schismatic, and the Catholic Churches teaching that being schismatic is a grave offense, then it leads a person to have no love for the SSPX. We have to have loyalty to God's church which is greater than loyalty of tradition. I love tradition and pray someday it all comes back. But the SSPX is schismatic and is outside the church. The popes since JP2 have all said this, it is no question...

@luke9747 8 ай бұрын

In 2009, Pope Benedict XVI reaffirmed that: "Until the doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status in the Church, and its ministers - even though they have been freed of the ecclesiastical penalty - do not legitimately exercise any ministry in the Church".

@gtaylor178 8 ай бұрын

My problem is people not wanting to hear the truth. The SSPX is a light on the hillside but it has its problems too and where they are exposed I thank God that the bad people are made to stop. I will not be part of you can not criticise wolves in sheeps clothing.

@luke9747 8 ай бұрын

@@gtaylor178 a light on the hillside which rejects the 2nd Vatican council and says the novus ordo is invalid

@gtaylor178 8 ай бұрын

are you very sure about what you say, as that is not what bishop Schneider says at all.@@luke9747

@MsMacDelaney 8 ай бұрын

I watched a documentary recently on failings of the church (not child related). I won’t go into the specifics as while it is important to reflect on our failings, to ask for reconciliation and to make reparations; what struck me while watching this documentary we’re the motivations of the maker and some participants in the documentary. The motivations of the participants who had skin in the game varied but the makers motivations seemed to be to discredit the church as a whole, to secure a payout and to end or discredit the ministries of the clergy involved. One participant went so far as to question the documented maker on my point. If the clergy are to lose their career and ministry on this alone, is that not compounding the issue? Is that not encouraging a culture of secrecy as oppose to transparency? Can we not extend to the clergy the mercy and love that we are shown in the confessional? For those who are not religious but who are intent are on exacerbating the issue; where is the tolerance? I do think, it is time to look at this more maturely and not have these unrealistic superhuman expectations of our clergy. Reactions should be proportional. It’s certainly a fine line to thread as the clergy are held to higher standard but this witch hunt style outing of religious cannot continue. Clergy give relentlessly to serve their parishioners in times of tragedy and joy. They are smaller in number and have a bigger workload than priest before them. Are we looking after our priests? Are we praying for them? Pray for your priests 🙏🏻

@rosezingleman5007 8 ай бұрын

The problem is that they do not lose their positions. They are promoted and “celebrated.” I’m older than Fr. Kilcoyne and have seen so many people fall into despair because the truly unrepentant people in collars who are exposed, go on into our parishes and diocesan positions and into the Vatican where they are embraced for their heterodox beliefs and objectively unbiblical “actions”. It just gets worse and worse every passing year. How can they repent when they’re busy in positions of more influence?

@nickramshaw518 8 ай бұрын

Well said Father.

@evamariebryde 8 ай бұрын

Christine Niles should start a new apostolate. I'm done with Church Militant, but they still had faithful people working there who could still keep the fires burning in a new location with a better board and CEO who in my opinion should be Christine. There's a few things that I've disagreed with her on but I've never met a person that I agreed with 100% of the time. I've learned a lot from her and I find her inspiring and encouraging on my spiritual journey.

@reneelascala5050 8 ай бұрын

Father, Mr Voris’ misconduct did not take place in a vacuum. If the CM organisation collectively enabled him, its credibility approaches -nil. As individuals, the perpetrator and those who aided him, even by looking away from the sin, deserve our prayers. But Our Lord did not command us to be rubes. This group need to come clean: morally and fiscally. And its victims require civil justice and our prayers too. Tx Father.

@thecatholicman 8 ай бұрын

Interesting take Father. Irish Common sense.

@pmull6784 8 ай бұрын

I stopped listening to Church Militant because Michael Voris seemed so angry all the time. I have no problem with him. We are all sinners and have to make our own way in our relationship with Jesus. Greetings from NY, btw. The family is from just up the road in Dunmore!

@carolynschuster291 8 ай бұрын

Very charitable. Voris' lifestyle was active homosexuality and promiscuous. I stopped watching/listening to CM awhile ago when I could see warning signs from him of catering again to the lifestyle. In fact, he flaunted it in style and substance because the faithful did not see it and he knew it. Now if the board knew it, that is an even greater profanation. THIS is the greatest offense here-causing the least to stumble

@MTR_06 8 ай бұрын

We should be very careful about wanting knowledge of Other people’s sins. Unless others have been victimised, and there needs to be legal justice, it’s none of our business, and we slide perilously close to our own sins of detraction or calumny. Which one of us would enjoy suspicion and assumptions had we been removed by a job position, either voluntarily or involuntarily?

@Treebeard32 8 ай бұрын

Reinstating him in the Church through confession seems like Christian charity, but I don't agree about reinstating him into a position of power under the guise of "Christian Charity". That seems more like complicity.

@psjasker 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Father. Hitting subscription button.

@declanfinan8842 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Father, Good review, but we can’t have him back. Yes, let’s pray for him and all involved, but bridges of trust have been badly burnt! Christine didn’t cover herself in glory in her statement regarding him. It seemed more like a betrayal than a message of support? Let Michael retreat to a life of prayer and penance for his very serious fall from Grace. If he does this, he’ll have a good chance of salvation, but it’s between him and his Maker now, so let everyone withdraw and pray for all those who have been shaken in their faith as a consequence of his fall. God bless to all

@ecdjcl7642 8 ай бұрын

Well put, Father. Well put.

@nancybrady9781 8 ай бұрын

That said, Pray for all involved. Yes, we are all sinners.

@thisdrinkinglife 8 ай бұрын

Agree 💯 in the church people who sinned should be allowed penance.

@mariawilliams9365 8 ай бұрын

Your comment about your own arrogance is interesting. Prayers for you in that. We all have our "thing." God bless! Thanks for the charitable video re: Mr. Voris.

@bodhionultimateride2660 8 ай бұрын

You are right, Don't dish out what you can't take

@mamahenscatholicteaching 8 ай бұрын

I agree where is the Charity. Christine Niles was my absolute favorite in fact I had all but stopped watching Michael but was watching Christine and I’m very sad that she’s gone. I do donate to church militant every month and I will continue to. I just really wish Christine would not have left.

@michellecampbell7540 8 ай бұрын

I loved them both and their programs!!! Like you l will continue to be a PREMIUM MEMBER AND DONATE. All that fine programming will not go to waste. Have a blessed Advent/Christmas!!! 🎄🕊🎄

@8elionadvancing884 8 ай бұрын

I love Michael and I hope he overcomes his issues. I wonder who introduced Michael to such degeneracy as a youth? Wonder if thats why he's going after the homosexual clergy?

@michellecampbell7540 8 ай бұрын

Now there's an important question you've asked...just WHO introduced Michael to sodomy? Good grief l never thought about that. May be THAT'S the 'Dark Secret' he's not talking about and yes...may be WHY he's 'outing' these Clergy Creeps!!! As a faithful Catholic, he's never going to desert 'the BARQUE OF PETER'. Remember, this attack on Holy Mother Church, this Infiltration was planned back in the 1920's. Michael may have been victimized as a child or teen. Yes, it's called 'grooming'. That obsession with the pleasure of intimate contact + pride + narcissism + drugs (which he said enhanced the pleasure).... There is a ticking TIME BOMB determined to right wrongs wielding the sword of St Michael which he exhausted the Internet to find. BRILLIANT QUESTIONS YOU POSED, BRAVO!!! 🗡

@rachelpruneau387 8 ай бұрын

WELL SAID!!🙏🏻

@marylynnlavender7789 8 ай бұрын

So wise, ty Father.

@berniefranc 8 ай бұрын

I think if Michael had offered an immediate apology to the many Priests/Bishops whose characters he destroyed for doing what he himself was doing it would have gone down well. Michael thinks his sins are his own and nobody’s business but pity he didn’t think the sins of the many people he has destroyed deserved to be private! He was absolutely ruthless when it came to judging others and he showed no mercy. God help him and I pray that he will by the grace of God overcome his demons.. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

@jothompson1903 8 ай бұрын

Michael Voris never said he was without failings or sins. And rightly so he called out "the Church of nice" which has led many in the Church astray and has not called us to be authentic followers of Christ but "good parishioners". Our Lord Jesus lives !

@ritakirwanmahon3481 8 ай бұрын

We must forgive each other when we are sorry well said Fr jesus message to us .. We all fall each and every day forgive me my God Father Son Holy Spirit AMEN 🙏🙏🇮🇪😇🙏🙏

@zacharyahearn4069 8 ай бұрын

You have a beautiful voice.

@AnBrocMeala 8 ай бұрын

I listened to E Michael Jones two recent podcasts (EMJ live Episode 50 and 51). These as far as I can tell were the most revealing recent commentaries about Voris. There is a place for Christian charity, but not at the expense of truth. Dr Jones wrote a book about Voris in 2016. The man behind The Curtain: Michael Voris and the Homosexual Vortex in 2016. Dr Jones is a man who is not afraid to speak his mind. Anyhow these podcasts are worth listening to if only to make yourself aware of the darker side of CM and the experience of anyone with the temerity to call out its founder.

@SquareNoggin 8 ай бұрын

Just saw this channel in my feed for the first time - "I mean modest in terms of our reach -- I'm extremely arrogant. But, anyway" lol. That got my sub.

@robynbeach3198 8 ай бұрын

I agree with you on all points 100%!!!

@fairyspunfibers9098 8 ай бұрын

The devil roams through the world like a lion, seeking whom he may devour. And _none of us escapes his attention!_ We must keep that in mind, with humble awareness, that none are ever immune. A life of humble prayer, seeking God's Will, is our only protection! The Rosary is humble and so beautiful. Let Mary cast Her Mantle over you, let her lead you to God. 😊💕 Ave Maria! 🙏🙏🙏

@patrickmccurry8420 8 ай бұрын

Yes agreed. Confess and sin no more. Those who are given much, much is expected...yes he needs to face his deeds

@timfinneran5047 8 ай бұрын

Father - theres been some disclosures on what happened. Sad situation with CM / Voris and also with the Church being in scandal. We all fall short…. Jesus, Mary and Joseph help us…. protect us….. McCarrick is / was so so horrible…. and the cover ups…. God help us….

@eugene2596 8 ай бұрын

Very, very well said Father! I would only add that Voris was so angry about corruption in the Church that the anger as well as a lack of humility and a dismissive “know it all” attitude marred his reporting. I found his reporting often ridiculous because of that and it detracted from his investigative reporting. As a contrast, at lifesite news John Henry Weston separates his emotions from his reporting and has a much better show as a result. Peace to you.🙏

@ericschilling9757 8 ай бұрын

In my considered and humble opinion, we need more Christians who help their neighbors and the poor, and who gradually increase the amount of love in the world. But we need fewer Christians who needlessly debate about this or that detail in theology.

@bthemedia 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! Just head David Gordon’s “the TRUTH about the resignation” video and was like what!?! Ok, be critical of the sin - but don’t be un-Catholic in destroying the sinner as well! Glad to hear your sensible, honest and charitable commentary!

@evamariebryde 8 ай бұрын

Gordon didn't "destroy" anyone. He just stated facts and his experience. He lost his livlihood and has every right to be livid. Stating the flat out truth objectively like he did is NOT un-Catholic. On the contrary.

@KristynLorraine 8 ай бұрын

Gordon actually worked for CM. Fr. Kilcoyne did not. It is easy to measured when you're commenting from the sidelines.

@bthemedia 8 ай бұрын

@@evamariebryde he basically said Voris is unredeemable for his “sin” and cannot he rehabilitated to a Catholic advocate... and also OUTED his morality violation. These are both un-Catholic things to do... to engage in scandalizing and destroying a person for their personal sins.

@MrV395 8 ай бұрын

Voris had insane hatred of SSPX. He hated sinful bishops and priests while he was sinning the same way. Repentance? Yes. Coming back as evangelist? No.

@ripbeni6198 8 ай бұрын

Michael Voris indeed pointed the guns 360, pointing it at heretic modernists and schismatics alike, schismatics like the SSPX. You might view charitable zeal for justice as hatred. But, from left to right he was impartial. Even if I agree he should have been impartial with himself. And it would have resulted in a St.Augustine style repentance and penance that would have really inspired me and the many others who share his heavy cross.

@MTR_06 8 ай бұрын

How do you know he was “sinning the same way”? That’s an assumption.

@chattingwithu 8 ай бұрын

@@MTR_06he didn’t step down because he was innocent plus he eluded to it all in a video, though it was vague.

@frankmcgowan9457 8 ай бұрын

As the old saying goes "There ain't no saint like a reformed sinner." The reverse, "There ain't no sinner like a fallen saint," probably applies, too. Pray for Michael Voris and Church Militant among your other intentions.

@angelamalek 8 ай бұрын

Absolutely right!

@milliesboy666 8 ай бұрын

In listening to Michaels 15 minute vid, I heard very little humility. He seemed to talk in circles. He was most likely leading a hypocritical lifestyle for some time. He needs to comes to terms before he can expect forgiveness.

@lyndapisano6373 8 ай бұрын

We are all capable of falling BUT, to fall to something ultra greaves takes a complete dismantled turn from the Holy Spirit! We know the signs of falling into sin. You have to CHOOSE to fall that far from grace! I pray that Our Lord never let's me choose to fall into hell! I pray for them!