What is the benefit with having a wide rear tire and a narrow front tire? How come they are different? Lets figure it out.
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@abhaschandrakumar4 жыл бұрын
4 minutes video from Mike gives us more knowledge than long 40 minutes videos. Thanks a lot Mike. Love your explanation and all your videos.
@MikeonBikes4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@BoidLP4 жыл бұрын
Same thing that came to my mind too. Not only informative, its still easy to consume, well produced and explained. One suggestions/request i would make: If its not too much hustle/work for you. I think it would be nice for a minority of viewers to have some links / literature you think would be useful for further information. Or maybe you could do a "books review" video, or at least share your thoughts on some of them. I think there are a couple of books that are taken as "motorcycle bible". I personally only read "Total Control" from Lee Parks, that was amazing, helpful and enjoyable. I wonder whats your opinion on some motorcycle related books. Thanks for all the great content you provide us with! Cheers from Germany
@Ranveer_sangha034 жыл бұрын
That's Right
@bikewolf74553 жыл бұрын
4 minute video of mike teaches me more than my school could in 4 years
@abegaz95823 жыл бұрын
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@jakaberdajs43784 жыл бұрын
Its a shame when you and fortnine, make such greate and knowledge rich content, yet riders generally watch vlog content more
@thepassionofthegoose54724 жыл бұрын
I understood the principal from decades of riding, but it was interesting to hear it explained in a technical, academic manner. Subscribed.
@sbsb49953 жыл бұрын
I love your explanations. Good episode as always.
@pathikdesai58534 жыл бұрын
Much waited question answered. Thanks Mike!
@marcusgeorge18254 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. It also helps with turning/cornering.
@righthoekstra4 жыл бұрын
My 80s honda CX got 19" in the front, and 16" in the rear! Love the explaining, defently learned something
@sebazzzzz4 жыл бұрын
Dude, actually I think this is my first time writing a comment, good job doing these videos. From where I am, usually people take riding bikes as easy and simple when it's actually knowledge like in this video we all need to understand at first. Thank you!
@KEV190194 жыл бұрын
That editing is so amazing!!! Keep it up!
@matthewmillar38044 жыл бұрын
Ah, I love this channel. 🥰
@bigmikelt4 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike keep up the good work
@styleone4 жыл бұрын
Super informative, as always!
@franktaylor79782 жыл бұрын
best explanation and short. I can watch every second and it doesn't feel Like I've wasted my time.
@pabinash56444 жыл бұрын
Aah just got confirmation that i can upsize both my front and rear tyres by one size. Thank you.
@josephkebbi11465 ай бұрын
Thank you. You've helped me understand the concept
@fabzrustrider98384 жыл бұрын
Very real and informative video 👍🏾💯🇬🇧 thank you
@robedemente2 жыл бұрын
Your intro is the one i like the most on bike channels 🙂
@irakli_chkhenkeli2 жыл бұрын
There is always smth to learn. Thank u bro
@FabianNemesis Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video.
@Tyblerone3 жыл бұрын
Love the content man.
@gamergomali60313 жыл бұрын
Luv your vids Mike
@tcpiptv4 жыл бұрын
Loving these motorcycle dynamics videos.
@MikeonBikes4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@manasupadhyay29794 жыл бұрын
Beautifully explained.
@MikeonBikes4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Ranveer_sangha034 жыл бұрын
Love your tshirt mate
@kikobruni4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video!!!
@johnjentges32653 ай бұрын
First: Thank you for this vey helpful and precise explanation. You channel is one of the most informing if not the most informing one here on YT. I thought about this topic myself for a while before watching this video. Doesn't a narrower front tire also mean that the bike will lean into the corner a bit more by itself sorta like diagonally?
@kumarrakesh5343 жыл бұрын
Nice informative video
@roarkshsha4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. It would be nice if there was a part 2. Interesting subject matter. Mike, I have a question ( well, I have many, but, will stick to just one ), does tire diameter affect grip? Some bikes ( cruisers, duel sport ), I have seen with different size tires. Narrow 21 inch or wider 18 inch. I have always wondered if the narrow 21 inch that I see on cruisers are unsafe? How much of a braking distance and cornering speed difference between narrow 21 inch and wider 18 inch on duel sport? I know that ended up more than one question. Sorry. If you answer just one, that would be helpful. Thank.
@JollyRide4 жыл бұрын
Nice information 👍
@Speedytrip4 жыл бұрын
Great content and beautiful editing as always.
@Bandy644 жыл бұрын
At 3:13 he literally spells “FUN” (F=μN ) to describe physics. Could have used this in to keep my interest in university🤨
@trykozmaksym4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Wolf :D
@GrandExperience4 жыл бұрын
Snyggt jobbat!!!! 👌😃
@MikeonBikes4 жыл бұрын
Tack!
@drumsnbass4 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@MikeonBikes4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@tracischwyzer47752 жыл бұрын
I got new tires on my Indian Scout 60 a few months ago- commander 2’s. But something felt off ever since then. I was feeling a lot of slide and slip and wiggle over insignificant cracks in the road as well as less efficient braking and ABS engagement but still without strong stopping power. I was feeling minor road deviations as major painful bumps and kept seeking advice to understand what was wrong. I went back to the mechanic who glanced at my tires and said they were perfect. Yesterday I went to a shop that specializes in moto tires. My rear tire was completely worn and they observed immediately that a tire with REAR stamped was on front of the bike and the directional guideline was backwards which they said was absolutely the explanation for all my problems. Also since the tires I burned through brake pads and needed a rotor in a twice as fast period of time. What would the dangers be if I kept riding on this and how could it have impacted other parts of my bikes parts and performance?
@GeorgeTsiros3 жыл бұрын
Not only is the front wheel thinner than the back one on my hornet It is also _smaller_ 😂 Makes looking for tyres really fun and exciting!
@gregoryrebolled04 жыл бұрын
Great video, how you like your multistrada? I recently purchase one and I am truly 😍 with it
@keviny93924 жыл бұрын
I ride a Harley 48 which comes with a beefy looking front tire (130/90-16). I find it hard on slow speed maneuvers but on highway it rides very stable.
@jeanjacques99803 жыл бұрын
Thanks for succinct explanation of tyre width, however I’m not sure the tyre diameter is different between front and rear, there must be a reason.
@jaylargo21154 жыл бұрын
You talk about balancing the front and rear for the grip, etc. Is there a ratio, chart, manual or computation between the sizes of the front and rear tire ?
@raft52054 жыл бұрын
Cool vid
@MikeonBikes4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@sigmundalcover96013 жыл бұрын
Hi! how about the difference of 19 inch vs 21 inch front tire on adventure bikes? whats the pros and cons of each when cornering on road and what's the science behind it?
@cephxll99202 жыл бұрын
Hey the video was great but I have a specific question I have a sv 650 but with a gsxr front forks swap and I recently got new tires and the front one is the right size for a sv but it’s wrong for the forks so it’s just a bit smaller still fits the wheel just a hit narrower it’s just a more twitchy and sensitive is there any other problems that I might run into like performance ?🤨
@MRryuhayabusa4 жыл бұрын
Make a video on your aprilia rs250!!
@jayakrishnavinjamuri84574 жыл бұрын
Hi.. Can you please tell me the disadvantage of having less width Tyre of Rear tyre for a bike. i.e.,Rear Tyre same as the front Tyre for a bike.
@johnpyershaherblhaddad57234 жыл бұрын
thanks Man
@matthewcarlson8424 жыл бұрын
Can you explain about double disc brake vs single disc brake front tyre on the next video
@jmannUSMC4 жыл бұрын
One thing I've learned in engineering school is that motorcycle dynamics are just as difficult to learn as rocket science, if not harder.
@MikelJackielou4 жыл бұрын
Philippines, Shout out mga ka Racers
@csn5833 жыл бұрын
Asperity: unevenness of surface, roughness, ruggedness Learned a new word today. Somehow that never came up in my BSME...
@dannykhoury854 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same multistrada!
@callumdean4 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered why
@raylow3043 жыл бұрын
Hi! Could you do talk about why scooters have smaller wheels especially the rear wheel. I tried to search for answer but couldn’t find any. Hope you can enlighten me. Thanks in advance.
@urosb824 жыл бұрын
Coefficient of friction doesnt change with vertical load, it is a constant value (for certain road surface and certain tyre). What is correct is that Force of friction changes with the vertical load. My 0.02$...
@mateiberatco5004 жыл бұрын
I just posted that it's the wrong formula for his point. Friction formula applies only while tire is sliding, not while rolling.
@Jesusprayerwarriorbw4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@raizopopo31593 жыл бұрын
What about wheel size, why dirt bike use big front wheel and rear using smaller one, as example tw200 had 18" in 130/80 tire front and 14" in 180/80 rear, the over all diameter is same, and sport bike has same wheel diameter? Thanks
@sachinkumar.singh1874 жыл бұрын
😊 awesome....
@napadaanlng693 жыл бұрын
can you use the same sizes on tires? like 3.00-17 front and rear? would that have a bad effect?
@memoktc4 жыл бұрын
Can you do one about motorcycle exhausts ?
@trekkydelirium-vroom58214 жыл бұрын
I am curious: The front tire size 100/90 19 seem to be only available in bias-ply, do you know why ? I just bought a 2020 Tiger 900 GT (i love her) & stock tires are a Radial 150/70R17 rear & a Bias-Ply 100/90-19 front.
@ARKARIDER3 жыл бұрын
You and Fortnine are like motorcycle God's.
@L00PdeL00P4 жыл бұрын
What about Kaneda’s bike that thing just said “screw it” to all thin-ness
@MrSaemichlaus4 жыл бұрын
What's the music in the outro? It's lit!
@SK-tk9zx3 жыл бұрын
Does this apply to front wheel drive car as well?
@souvikgigbayte3 жыл бұрын
Can I upgrade apache 180 bs4 rear tyre "110/ 80 R 17" tubeless with " 120/ 80 R 17" tubeless ?? Please reply. Eagerly waiting to hear. After getting your confirmation, I will do the upgrade work. Is it require to upgrade the stock rim also??
@constantinosschinas45032 жыл бұрын
curious: does this tyre width difference create a longitudinal torque within the bike/frame? Because in any given angle the front part can steer with same speed but less inclination. If so, does it lead to other behaviours?
@ridewithmyke18922 жыл бұрын
Can i use a 120/18/14 for the front and back of my scooter?
@prs264 жыл бұрын
can we fit 100/90 front tyres with 110/80 >> what would be the effects
@alacle3 жыл бұрын
is it ok to put the same size tires in both front and back ??? ill wait for an answer.
@jshawnlovesyou3 жыл бұрын
Do you have video explaining why tires in front are reverse?
@SWTrailsAndWheels4 жыл бұрын
What tires do you run on your multistrada?
@fonziebulldog57864 жыл бұрын
Try to take a curve with the rear tire in the front and the front tire back. Good luck. 😀
@Kalthios2 ай бұрын
Was thinking I want more traction for breaking than for acceleration, but you can only brake so hard before you flip the bike. Wonder if that is a key factor in choosing front tire width?
@playwithchenn15912 жыл бұрын
What is the danger of using a 140' size front wheel. (140/70/12) for mini bike. Rear is 160/70/14. Thanks
@electric_boogaloo4964 жыл бұрын
A narrower tire also gives more turning rate than a wider tire for the same lean angle. That means, with a wider rear tire, the rear makes an arc with a bigger radius than the front making the motorcycle more oversteery.
@Angry-Lynx4 жыл бұрын
That make sense, never thought about it !
@KuroOoKamii03208 ай бұрын
what if the size of rim is different, like the front tire is bigger than rear, like what we see in cruiser type bikes, what's the science behind? can you tackle it next?
@SteelRoninTT4 жыл бұрын
*Cries in 90mm 10inch front and rear tires*
@jbalcantara9819 Жыл бұрын
Can i put the rear tyre in front? And didn't follow the wheel rotation they call them reverse Installation is that ok?
@daggerfighter3 жыл бұрын
The main question here: why do you consider rear tire having a "higher load"? Braking is a lot more dynamic process than acceleration with weight almost completely distributed to the front so, in fact, front is more loaded up then rear if we compare braking to acceleration.
@Mishn02 жыл бұрын
Traction goes up as the load on the tire goes up. Weight transfer makes up for the smaller contact patch on the front.
@daggerfighter2 жыл бұрын
@@Mishn0 maybe, I was talking about the statement on the rear tire having "higher load" what is obviously false.
@graemesydney384 жыл бұрын
If you are talking about the PRIMARY effect you are wrong. The factors you mentioned are correct but are minor variations and have minor effect on the behaviour of the bike (and sometime cancels each other out). If you change the profile or size of the front or rear tyre it has a major effect on the behaviour of the bike (and a mismatch is even more noticeable). The reason for this is the the contact patch of the tyre moves off centre as the bike is leaned over. The different sizes (or different profiles), working in conjunction with frame geometry, give different arcs and changing arcs in relationship one to the other, as the bike is leaned. (And, in the primary speed range that most m/c's operate in, the primary cause of steering is lean angle and not the attack angle of the front tyre.) That is not the complete answer to the very complex issue of steering a motorcycle or the physical factors involved, but does give a better understanding of the effect of lean and tyres, and how a rider can adapt to get different desired outcomes.
@theexplorer82424 жыл бұрын
Worth info but why youtube does not give option for arabic translation? We undrestand some and miss more 😔
@AnIdiotOnTwoWheels2 жыл бұрын
What about breaking? Doesn't the front see extreme loads?
@deploy_leroy4 жыл бұрын
How would the bike behave if front tyre was wider and rear tyre was narrower?
@addicz24 жыл бұрын
See Thai Look modification. As passenger not very comfortable
@ChadOHara984 жыл бұрын
3:10 does tire load sensitivity account for the increase in area of the contact patch? I’ve thought that the bigger contact patch increased your overall frictional force.
@MikeonBikes4 жыл бұрын
Yes. A larger contact patch sees less reduction of the coefficient of friction because of vertical load. What is really going to mess with your head, is that as the vertical load increases, the contact patch area grows. The reduction of the coefficient of friction because of vertical load is not linear and very hard to measure.
@janeblogs3244 жыл бұрын
Pounds per square inch. Same friction spread out
@ChadOHara984 жыл бұрын
@@MikeonBikes That is very interesting, and I'd love to pick your brain some more about this topic in person, when we get the chance. Thanks for putting all this info out there.
@ChadOHara984 жыл бұрын
@@janeblogs324 Yeah, I see now that Mike was describing the fiction force per unit area of the contact patch. Usually a force is measured in pounds, and when it is per unit area it becomes a pressure. definitely a head-scratcher.
@Mishn02 жыл бұрын
Yes and no, yes only if the coefficient of friction of the tire compound is high. Otherwise, as the tire patch goes up, the PSI goes down and in most cases it balances out.
@lencikke4 жыл бұрын
Hi MIke! Is the middle of the lane more slippery than the sides? I mean where car tyres are not "cleaning" the surface usually the road has more dust. Can i go from the outside of my lane to the apex without worrying that i will lose grip? This fear is limiting my riding. Thanks.
@Angry-Lynx4 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't matter much imo, just avoid white painted lines on road they are much more slippery than asphalt, especially wet ;
@VirtualTech2 жыл бұрын
my 125cc has same tyres in both front and rear
@MrMBSonic4 жыл бұрын
Given your great expertise in the physics behind motorcycling, I have a question.What would be your first step if you were to completely reschedule a motorcycle. Electric drive exists, gasoline drive exists, but not hybrid, for example.The Porsche 919 uses hybrid technology to show what awesome results are possible.Electric motors in the wheel hub supported by conventional petrol motors sound exciting.So if you would rethink the motorcycle, where is your starting point?
@jimmymcjimmyvich90522 жыл бұрын
Be quiet!!
@David..5 ай бұрын
Thank god the science works out like that because of the fat tire was on the front bikes would look dumb.
@motocentph4 жыл бұрын
SHOUT OUT MEN ✌️
@paulford5404 жыл бұрын
Can you explain what a lever effect is? you said a biger rear tire has a much larger lever affect don’t understand what you’re talking about there
@dardobartoli4 жыл бұрын
I don't know, but I have a feeling I will soon find out ...
@TheBanker0274 жыл бұрын
Hi thank you very much for touching on this issue very few people do actually. I have been wondering though... Is it possible to use the same wheel size for both the front and back wheels.... Say wheel size 130/90 for a 150cc motorcycle
@tejaspadhye4 жыл бұрын
Front tire should max be 110/90 section
@Ninjatrouble4 жыл бұрын
I have a question that needs answering. Why do most motorcycle exaust are on the right side of the bike?
@TWIRKNOLOVE4 жыл бұрын
Because everyone tends to lowside on the left. Just kidding. It's because the kickstand is on the left, so you get off your bike on the left - without having the hot exhaust there or fumes if the bike is on.
@thechicanes4 жыл бұрын
@@TWIRKNOLOVE Also, more under swing-arm clearance due to chain usually being on the left.
@stpbasss37734 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is I raced BMX and on our bikes we always rose a wider front wheel but on dirt bikes it's always a wider rear lol.
@blackz90584 жыл бұрын
So why have MX-bikes bigger Fronttires?
@jasonjackson56964 жыл бұрын
Great shirt! 👇
@huypham-wy2pn6 ай бұрын
Smaller front tire for flexibility and highest leaning angle 💪
@FradaricJoseph3 жыл бұрын
isnt your tire thread direction wrong ?
@jarpomarcopo86922 жыл бұрын
Second knowledge, we r not done yet. . Before adjusting suspensions. .