So All is well Tony says he will build the motor he was dreaming about . Should be cool to see him hit the 300 HP with those stock parts . I hope he gets started soon we are all excited to see him in action. He Will be able to do it his way.

You screwed up the whole theme by going aftermarket. What's the point? Now you're not seeing what stock parts can do, that is what we all want to see. Scrap the whole thing.

I was enjoying the project as it was. I was real interested to see those lightened original conecting rods run. The tech side was fun.

face it, you ruined the original idea for mission impossible it wasn't meant to be built for sale. it was meant to see how far a poor shade tree mechanic can massage stock parts and see what benefits are gained. you should change the name to 318 contest build.

Well, I get it but I'm disappointed. I really wanted to see if all you guys, working as a team, could get 318 hp out of a 318 using only stock parts. And brains. Am I the only one disappointed? We all know you can throw a bunch of "trick" parts at it and make way more power. That's not really the same thing is it? Well, best of luck on the new direction.

I was looking forward to seeing what bone stock parts could do for this engine, but you're already putting aftermarket stuff in it, before it even get started.

I liked the UTG vision of a build. Just saying..

i liked the idea of blueprinting just making it the best it could be with stock unloved low performance parts polished and worked to make it the best it can be without bolting on performance parts

It may have been UT's idea, but I think, the spirit of this project was to get to see David work his magic working with the stock parts. We know that you and David know how to make power, but the stock parts tuned by a true master, was the heart of this project.

Add me to those disappointed in the direction this has taken. Tony wanted to show what someone with little money could do by modifying the stock parts. He wasn't looking for an engine for a hot street racer like you guys have turned this into. Both are cool projects, but now, Tony's low-buck idea is gone. The idea, as the clips with Tony showed, and even you said, was to show what using your brain and not your wallet would do. Well, with vendors throwing new parts at this for free, something only someone like David could pull of to his much-deserved reputation could do, we now lost the low-buck aspect.

Im another who can be counted as very disappointed. To see what some experts with a grinder could get out of a factory engine was extremely interesting. Theres dozens of examples of 318s being modified throwing aftermarket parts at it, and getting great hp numbers, but theres NO examples of how to up the anti on a factory engine. Your build will be interesting and worth the watch, but it not the same thing at all.

I'm very disappointed with you guys, Tony couldn't have been more clear and you guys originally agreed to it, if you guys felt this way, you should have walked away and given Tony his parts back

No wonder UTG pulled out. This isn't even remotely like the plan he first suggested.

Call that a bust. Tens of thousands of people have put together combinations of parts on a small block Mopar to make HP. The thing that made the initial concept unique was doing it with ALL stock parts. Change the formula and its just another parts build. Sad. Unsubscribed.

Uncle Tony laid out HIS vision for Mission Impossible and you threw him under the bus.

Tony is no angel, but the original idea really resonated with many of us. Now, you throw that away and say "we know someone won't like that, WE DON'T CARE, as in "we don't give a damn". Well, I can "turn the channel", can't I?

Sorry I lost interest, we'll never really know what could have happened.👎

I really wanted to see what could be done with the bone stock 318. Disappointed.

Not sure why people want to bash Tony over this. He couldn't have been clearer with his intent, which is what you all AGREED to. To try and get the most from the stock engine. When did a charity get involved?

I kinda understand Tony not wanting the other guy working on the heads, his channel kinda focuses on the things the average guy can do with average tools and if one of us got that guy or dv to do the heads we'd be better of just to buy aluminum heads

Stay true to UT's original vision

Utg was very clear on what he wanted go back and watch the videos that all 3 of you talked about. It was originally utg idea. Sorry to hear about David health. Hope he is doing well

This project has morphed from the outset, from a contest of tweaking stock parts to a quest to tweak all kinds of stuff for a goal of an auction for St. Jude's. In the spirit of tweaking stuff, I have been interested in following it. I temper any personal disappointment in its departure from original quest with the fact that it is still hot rodding in its finest state, with very fine people spending personal time in it, and documenting it to include me as a viewer. No matter the process, I wish to see it through to the end....and I wish to thank Tony, DV, Andy, and Charlie for starting, building, and ultimately finishing this. Kudos to you.

The original idea is gone. And the thing about that idea and youtube is you give your audience what they want. Not what you want.

It is disappointing to see aftermarket parts involved. It was an interesting project but not so much now

Just watch UTG about your MI 318 build. So many people in the comment section including myself have lost interest once you all have deviated from the original plan of building a stock 318 with stock 318 parts only. UTG said he will restart the original MI project once you all have finished this one.

You said it all when you told us you ultimately don't care what our opinion was. It's your engine, might as well throw the Summit catalog at it like everyone else does.

Why not build one engine per the original idea of using factory smog 318 parts with Rock Auto replacement parts and a second tunnel ram engine to give away for St. Jude? Charlie did a lot of work on those 318 heads, intakes and exhaust manifolds. It would be a shame not to see the original idea through to fruition.

Totally disappointed rules were set then instantly broken. Time way too long 6 months max

This became so bastardized that I lost interst in it. David is an immeasurable wealth of knowledge, that I will not refute. This should've been been something that any good ol' boy could recreate and then it went off the rails. St. Judes is a great organization and I have no issue with anyone raising funds for them, but what's being built is something that requires very deep pockets. Good luck with your highly modified and ttricked out 318. Once it became bastardized in this way, I washed my hands of watching the build. Respect for your knowledge, but it's so far past the original roots that it's not what the original intent was.

You lost it and lost me, sorry. I already built a full competition 273 with stock heads back in the 1970's that exceeded 300 horses but was looking forward to the original concept 318. The 1965 four-dour Valiant ("Valiant Effort") that the 273 was installed in was sold to the Renteria Brothers in 1980 who changed out the entire drive train and then raced it on the drag strip for another 20 years after that. I had bracket raced it at Fremont Raceway circa 1973-1977 (in red oxide primer) before getting it painted and lettered.

💯 anybody can build with $$$. This was supposed to be about modifying stock. Sounds like you should have built 3 different engines. Charlie is amazing, 300hp would be easy with his help and the wild nature of the engine would have been amazing with Davids motifications. Granted, david had health issues, but he already had the rods done and cam getting ground was etc. Who cares if it failed down the road, thats not the point. Even performance parts fail.

I get it, and Tony doesn't even have the most credibility with, eh, personnel issues on youtube, but I kinda feel for him on this one. -If you're so backed up with work that it created these issues, like involving 3rd parties, delays, etc, then maybe it wasn't in all 3 of your best interests to take it on? -He seemed very pointed about the spirit of his idea, from the get go. There wasn't much wishy washy crap from his end to cause confusion about it, at least from what made it to this platform. It's always unfortunate when things don't pan out, and it is definitely a challenge to coordinate that much work and that many parties, and still make it to finish line. At the end of the day, however, it seems Tony said "I have this 318, and I have an idea" and the parts he donated to the porject to work with were taken, and the circus ran off without him.

If you are not going to use the Rods that were cleaned up, or manifolds or carby in the end, I would like to see them used in Tony's version of the project as it fits his vision of it. It will be interesting to see how this engine pans out.

Boy did this go off the rails!

I'll admit that my initial interest matched Uncle Tony's; I can't afford to do an engine build and restore on my Challenger that I really want so I'm rebuilding the stock 318 and keeping it 2 barrel with minor improvements (+1 cam, 302 heads, mild porting)... the original mission was tailor made for my car. Yeah someday hope to build a much nicer 360 but I could be running this 318 (and loving it!) for years before that happens. Wish I could afford (and wish David had time) to do full custom ground rods and crankshaft for me, or suitable aftermarket parts, but again not happening. Budgets be what they is. I fully understand UTG's position. But I'm absolutely delighted that you're still continuing the project, and are going to do the two barrel build and runs. We can see if its worth tweaking the cast iron manifold and modifying the carb like you did (I already picked up a good BBD core for experimentation) and that's likely to be my main area of 'mission' implementation if it turns out to be worth the effort. Thank you all for keeping this alive! And thanks to Charlie also who just keeps tweaking and testing and improving on his contributions, and to David for the inspiring (though for me unattainable) rod and crank modifications and other info! There's good info out there for oiling system modifications on Mopar small blocks. I look forward to what you end up doing.

Not at all what was set out to do. That's fine. Should have said, let's build an engine for St Jude's and called it a day. It's not my project so what I think really doesn't matter. I'm sure when you're done with it it will be a really nice piece!

If i wanted to go for easy 318 power, I'd go for Engine Masters winter 2008 article Cheap and Mean 318. Made 425 hp NA. Some machining and bolt ons, heads, cam, intake, 4 bbl, headers. Just money. Where's the initial spirit? Thats what people want to know.

Probably should have just come up with this idea on your own, plunked down a hundred for a 318 core, and told Tony you weren't interested.

It's a shame on what the project has been twisted into, with the introduction of aftermarket parts involved, might as well name the mission impossible series to: Mission possible. There's no challenge about getting an engine to make power with go-fast parts, but making an engine to go fast without go fast-parts is where the initial challenge was at. Might as well give the block/heads/everything the engine came with originally back to Tony, he'll finish the project without any deviations from the initial intent.

I don't care if it gets finished or not. Some of the tech sutff was interesting but the engine won't be as interesting as it would have been if the project followed the original intent.

Luv ya like a brother Andy, but I have to agree with Uncle Tony. The direction of this project has gone completely off the rails. Why not just open up the Summit catalog, order a bunch of parts, and build a money motor that any of us could do...if we had the money. It's perfectly fine to build a reliable motor for a St. Jude's Raffle, but why does it have to mash up with this project? The question originally asked remains unanswered - what is possible with STOCK parts?

This was a great opportunity for you guys to showcase your talents, i really respect and enjoy your stuff. This was a let down, anyone can throw the parts book at it, that wasnt the point. All that a side, keep up the great content!

Would have loved to see what y’all could have got out of it with modified stock parts. And using a two barrel Holly carb. And then add headers, maybe a 4 barrel manifold, bigger cams, etc. But now it seems like the original intent/idea for the engine has been shanghaied. Its now turned into the Borg 318 Engine Project.

I liked uncle Tony’s idea of everything the engine was born with . Not everyone is a engine building god .davids videos seem to relate to this original idea . With all do respect .

Thanks for the update. I think I land somewhere in the middle. Build your tough as nails short block. Then top it with stock parts to get a baseline. Add Charlies heads and a bigger 2-bbl. Add a 4-bbl. Swap cams, springs etc. turn it up. Add tunnel ram and turn it again. Lastly go to aftermarket cylinder heads and let er rip. Point being, try to get all the stages dyno'd so you can show the progression. Show what a UTG massaged mostly stock parts motor would do. It's an important step up the ladder. Especially to the backyard porter and bolt-on crowd. The million dollar BBD is not important. None of us would stay there ... Everybody would just bolt on a 4-bbl and move on from there 😁

I'd like to sea what a blueprinted stock block 318 can do, and if it could handle the cheapest of turbo setups without an intercooler 🤔

I think getting St. Jude in the mix doomed this project. Once someone is putting down lots of cash the motor needs to be streetable. Next issue I believe is that some in the building process being bored w/ a 100 percent stock build + the time and effort involved for little gain compared to what could be built with aftermarket. Issue is that wasn’t the point. Sure the motor will be cool and run great and all, but the original point was stock parts.

It's clear you don't care, so I don't care either, By by.

Missing Impossible.

Man, I feel sorry for Charlie the most. He's put months into those heads and some 30+ cuts and flow testing. 😔

Tony's concept was VERY CLEARLY laid out from the get go! He asked you and David if you would be interested in collaborating on the project. You and David agreed. Now, thousands of You Tubers were very keen to follow along. The thing that gets me is, if you two are so tied up with other projects, health concerns, ect., why would you even entertain Tony's invite? And then, after changing a very interesting idea into yet another small block aftermarket parts wrench, telling your "PEOPLE" if you don't like it, we don't care! DISGUSTING!!! I am old and health challenged similar to David. I know the toll it can take. It seems to me that David himself, finds other people to do a lot of "his" work for him these days. This project should never had been "grandstanded" to a charity auction status in the first place; THAT was a self centered mistake. You two took Tony's idea and through him and his concept out the window. SHAME on ya! UNSUBSCRIBED

Before you guys got someone else involved maybe you guys should have contacting utg instead of a surprise for him

I wanted to support this endeavor, but its too complicated and strayed too far from original intent. Im out guys, no more support.

I totally understand, and agree with Tony on what this project has turned into. As soon as it became a charity auction, then reliability became a concern, whereas before that, it would not have mattered if it blew up on the dyno, the idea was to modify the stock parts to the extreme and see what worked. Tony gets a lot of sh!t for leaving the project, but it's not his fault that after he came up with the idea, supplied all the parts, that it was taken in a different direction outside of his control. And now 3 other content creators will be profiting off Tony's back with views, and he won't be involved.

In the military, we call this "mission creep."

This isn't lost you've just gotten ahead of yourselves. All you need to do is complete the engine as originally intended. There mission impossible completed. Then you can do stage 2. Add four barrel cam ect. Stage 3 full DV treatment and Charity Auction.

Operation disaffection ... This has gone from what the average Joe can do on a budget aiming for 1 hp per ci, to some kind of lets build a max hp Nascar engine to run at 7500 rpms. The head porting videos are a gift to insomniacs. Besides becoming more of a concern for raising money for St. Jude which is highly commendable, the project seems stifled more by a fear of failure. This is just my view as a subscriber, but I think my view may be shared by others and this is not a personal attack. It's your project, do with it as you wish.

I think you should use the stock rods. if you are worried about longevity after the raffle winner takes ownership, you should put them in after the first iteration which adheres to the original ONLY stock parts plan. ...either that, or at lest rename the project. Mission Improbable perhaps?

8:09 Sold?? So it’s no longer getting raffled?

The name of the engine should be changed to something more fitting to the new plan.

We were all looking forward to the original vision. I am disappointed but I will still be watching because the cause is worth it. The 2 barrel is an hilarious idea but I think it's definitely in spirit for the engine. For the bottom end the stock rods is a fascinating project and something I may implement on one of my engines

I look forward to Tony going ahead with the "original" project on his own You guy's blew it & just lost a subscriber.

As for most things in life you can’t make everyone happy, but I see the greater call for charity coming to the forefront. St. Jude’s is a noble cause and to me it is awesome to see people want to be a part of what your doing. I think keeping the stock head, cam and showing that the bottom end could be built from stock parts is a great progression on the way to a reliable and fun engine. Who wouldn’t like an engine that you can turn to 7500? In the end all this great content is free and I think the showing of gearhead charity that all of you are displaying is amazing.

You need to change the name of the project your doing. Its not mission impossible anymore. Something like, "Mission typical 318 build" would be a more fitting name. You mention that the ported carburetor is going to have problems. Thats exactly what we want to see! Everyone knows that putting a 4 barrel makes more power, I don't want to see that. I want to see what can you do with a modified stock 2 barrel. Did you guys ruin the rods, carburetor and heads? Why would you change the build like that. I would have more respect for you guys if you just fessed up and told us you ruined the stock parts, show how and why they were ruined and go buy some new ones and try again. I'm disappointed.

Why don't y'all ever tell everybody what the donation phone number and/or the donation web site is for St. Judes?

I like the idea of using oem heads. Simple oem parts with some crafty mods dun that a guy might be able to do in his garage is the caliber of build that sparks my interest becouse its what I relate too.

I believe that lots of good things will come of this and people will certainly learn something. People will go back and copy what was done. Good stuff 👍

I'm not a Dodge or a Ford guy and I am happy! Thank you for all the gearhead education you guys provide! Keep up the great work!

WHY are you selling an engine that belongs to Tony? He says the block and heads were his and that he drove them to your shop. Now you want to sell it at auction for a "charity?" If you ask me, this is stealing. If you want a block and head to sell for charity, use your own block and heads.

Grateful for all your efforts Andy!

return the block and parts to tony... he'll do it.. whats the problem... no problem. build your own engine. idk why you just didnt say you just didnt want to do it as he spec'd. he would have bailed immediately... except it turned into a shitshow. thanks to everyone involved...

I ENJOY BOTH CHANNELS. BUT THE WHOLE CHALLENGE AND PREMISE IS DESTROYED. AND ITS NO LONGER MISSION IMPOSSIBLE. BEST OF LUCK. BUT ILL BE WAITING FOR TONYS ORIGINAL MISSION IMPOSSIBLE PROJECT. WHAT WE ALL WERE EXPECTING.

I was very interested in the original concept of maxing out stock 2bbl config/parts as I have a 5.2L magnum that I wish to follow along the same vein. Are the heads too far along now by Charlie that stock 2bbl/intake flow would just be stepping backwards? I worked briefly with a short-track late-model team and they used 2bbl carbs (albeit on Eddy performer RPM intake) that freakin' screamed past 7k+! What about stage 1, stage 2, etc. where you start with UT's idea, get the heads to a happy street/strip medium and dyno it. Then look at 4bbl, intakes, rocker ratios, and cam upgrades (bolt-ons) that you would be proud to auction off?

I follow Charlie and have learned a lot from him, he goes above and beyond. I follow Uncle Tony because he's comical. The first car I ever owned was a 1967 Barracuda Formula S. Someone had pulled the 273 and dropped a smog era 318 in it. I found a 360 from a 1 ton dump with a spun rod bearing. I swapped heads cam and intake. I didn't have a TQ, so I used a Quadrajet. What ever, I was working on a dairy farm and had no money. Wish I still had that car now. 25 years later, if I knew then what I know now. I'm still not interested in aftermarket aluminum cylinder heads for my own builds. My customers can buy them if they want. Pardon me as I ramble, I'm just glad your doing the 318 build. I'm still interested and following.

What an education we we have gotten so far and I thank all of you! Realities are what they are, this build takes time and Andy has been doing how many hours of research???? I throw out the Challenge for some one to do a stock rebuild to be a control engine , and someone close to where the dynoing is going to take place, add just a back yard nonprofessional build on a 318 using stock parts. Would be adding a bit more fun am I right?

This is a real shame. And to respond with, " i will do something with this and most of you wont like it but, i dont care, im doing what i want". Is disgraceful. What a kick in the face to all these people that stood behind you a rooted you on through all you have done here. Tony may not have a personal issue with yall but it sounds like everyone else does.

As soon as St Jude's was put into the mix I knew it was over. As far as the everyday Joe doing this build with some success, the knowledge and tools required to duplicate what has already been done far exceeds what many people are capable of. If you paid a shop to replicate the work done it would be much simpler and probably cheaper to do the standard bolt ons at whatever level and be done with it. One way or the other it takes money and time to accomplish the goal at hand. The original concept here was a solid one and should have been adhered to realizing that some of the modifications would be at a premium cost over some of the aftermarket alternatives. It all comes to the quality of the rebuild in the end. The knowledge learned from modifying and using the stock parts and the why it's being done it what people want! Good luck with your build. KP

Funny, when I first heard of this project, I was thinking about doing something similar with my slant six. As I looked into it I found a bunch of stuff Uncle Tony and Shane P. had already done. Thought the 318 idea was great. Use factory metal and see what you could grind away to make it the best it could be. My slant is done and apparently so is the original 318 idea. A lot of surprising high rpm high hp 318s out there. Still no stock metal 1hp per cube motor. It's a shame.

Charlie has done endless hours of fantastic work.

Thank you for the update. It's going to be interesting to see some big hp numbers out of this 318.... Having said that, I've always been a bang for the buck type, which meant junk yards were my play ground. The $ route (paying a machine shop to do these mods, etc.) will still be worth following. Thanks for sharing your efforts.

I’ve been watching this as intensely as anything on KZfaq. You guys come up with the best content. Continue the project and good luck.

I totally respect y'all's work on this and continue to follow it, no matter who is in the middle of it.

I don't care how long it takes to get that 318 on the dyno, this is my favorite engine build.

No more interest in the project

I like the 3 stage concept. Developing the stock motor is interesting, reality is, the cost & results just dont mesh. Stock then middle ground & a beast. that would be awesome. Love seeing the almost hated 318 getting some love.

Good luck with the project, it sure makes lot of sense to use quality aftermarket parts for the final product considering it will be auctioned for a hopefully decent bag of money that will go to St Jude's.

I'm still waiting to see if the 2 barrel Carter carb will need to have the Jets / metering rods modified or changed out due to the mods of the carburator housing that free up CFM 🤔👍.

Yea, It's so much more interesting to see intelligent folks tweak and massage production parts to make an underdog really perform.... real hot rodding !!! It also shows the potential of a platform if forced to work with stock parts. David Vizard is a master of this, been reading his books for 40 years. I'm OK with aftermarket intake, carb and headers, but everything between these should be "breathed on" stock parts. I loved the work DV did on the stock rods, so cool!! Aftermarket rods and 8,000 RPM for 318HP LOL!! I see the point for the swap to big heads and cam, but build a separate engine for that !!

Thanks, Andy. I've been waiting for an update on this engine. I'd love to see what it does with a ported head and original valves with a stock or near stock cam. I have a 340 cam for my 318, the old direct connection 1970s recommendation, and I'll be running a 4bbl aftermarket dual plane manifold on mine when I've got some money to finish it I'll basically use as many stock parts as possible to keep the cost down.

I am definitely interested in this project! My current project is very similar in concept (though it is currently on hold, due to life's complications) its a 5.9 magnum and will be going into a 4x4. I have been following Charles and I am amazed at the progress he has made on those heads. He is definitely very good at what he does! His attention to detail is amazing! Also I want to thank you guys for doing this to raise funds for St Judes!

It was just a vision! All you can do is try and shoot for it, but the real realities and the unforseen responsibilities get in the way. Especially when there are three involved. And over time one can easily loose sight of the original plan. I dont think it should be expected to be exactly what was originally hoped for. Maybe another time it could be planned and organized better to make that happen. But not every individual can fully see the necessary time thats needed to devote to something or a project in their lives at any given moment. The mighty 318 is a well liked engine, and the people that know, they know that the 318 is loaded with potential. And it is such a good sounding motor with the simplest mod of having duel exhaust. And a built 318 can sound just awesome.

I would like to see both types of engines built. One mild and one a bit more enthusiastic lol. But really to be honest I wanted to see everyone work together as a team. Each person has their own unique skill set and personalities and sometimes the chemistry between people dont work.

Mission creep in a nut shell starts as a simple build then it escalates 😂

Thank you! I got a few things to add. I like the update and good work. Correct me if I heard wrong, but I thought on the original plan live that UT said a 318 made 230hp crank stock? Chiltons truck manual (67-88) says 120 hp 250 tq as 2bbl and 150/245 as 4bbl. Here is my experience with a "throw it together" 318 build. 203/239 whp/tq with the "302" head lightly worked, whiplash cam, 904, stock rockers, long tubes, stock 4bbl intake, 600 Edelbrock, and clutch fan. Later this year I plan on redoing this combo with what we have learned from the MI build. Thanks again, also I have stock 318 cams (flat tappet and roller) if you need them.

I have enjoyed all aspects of this series.The enthusiasm of all of you guys,the original simplicity of the concept, to what it has morphed into.The Work Charlie has done,info we would never have known About factory heads.Looking forward to the carb Mods.Cam selection based on Davids Formula Will be interesting.I hope all parties Will still be Friends after this.

Just like everywhere else in life things don't always go as planned. Make the best of the situation and keep marching forward 😎👍👍

To me the best low buck fun you can have is stock rotator with some simple mods, port the stock iron heads, keep stock valves. Do some basic tricks to get the CR up as much as you can (9:1). Put on an alum 4 bbl intake and carb. Put a flat tappet cam in it. Also use headers. Those are the basic speed parts and you can buy them used for cheap if you want. Very fee people care about stock 2 bbl’s and exhaust manifolds.

Personally I think you guys are, to put it as politely as possible, as unreliable as friends can be! Anyone who would agree to a project and then, on a whim decide on your own to just arbitrarily change the intent and direction of that project without consulting the partner that was responsible for its conception is simply something friends do NOT do. If you want to build some POS hotrodded aftermarket collection of parts and auction it off for a good cause, fine. But that's no reason to turn your back on a friend in the process by underhandedly violating the ground rules YOU agreed to. To put it plainly, that's called back stabbing at it's finest. I've unsubscribed from your channel and will pass the word as best I can to everyone I know that you guys are only interested in what YOU want and to hell with everyone else, including I'm sorry to say, someone you claim is one of your friends. If I was Tony I would never talk to you guys again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. Luckily for you Tony doesn't feel that way, but rest assured I doubt you'll ever be able to regain the trust you've lost. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who agrees to an idea and its ground rules, then purposefully refuses to follow it through is not worth dealing with.

I knew there was something I didn’t like about you when I first watched your channel. I checked it out a time or two just because as a gearhead, I can appreciate some the content. But I was right. Now I know there’s something I don’t like about you. I don’t blame UTG a bit for not wanting to be a part of it. You accepted his challenge, decided it was too hard, and then changed the rules of engagement while bastardizing the original idea. Like you said, you don’t care.