More News & My Feedback on Cleric "Nerfs" (healing word + ap gain) Bring Back Support! - Neverwinter
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Күн бұрынWe have received more news from the devs on Cleric Healer "balance". Along with intending to change the Healing Word Encounter power they now also seem to want to change the Action Point regeneration from the Scattering Light At-Will power! Here I cover what we know so far along with give my feedback and propositions for bringing back some of the support cleric had before module 16 happened!
TIME STAMPS
00:00 Healing Word
00:44 Daily Power in 8s
02:36 Scattering Light Annimation Cancelling
05:18 Scattering Light "nerf"
07:19 Why to Take Cleric healer
10:24 Before Module 16 Powers
14:17 Bring Back Buff/Debuff Powers
15:39 3rd Paragon Path
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@deltaresero 11 ай бұрын
Oh, Aragon, you truly are a visionary ahead of your time! Your groundbreaking approach to showcasing the so-called "overpowered" Cleric in Neverwinter is truly a masterpiece of skewed logic and creative disregard for game mechanics. Your decision to cherry-pick the most ideal conditions on the testing server - you know, that utopian realm where there's no risk of dying and FPS is as high as the heavens (allowing for the fastest possible cancels) - was pure brilliance. Defence? That was so last mod. Who needs that pesky survivability anyway? And let's not forget the stroke of genius in assuming that every player can effortlessly replicate your unparalleled stationary, enemy-free, AP-generating utopia in the chaotic frenzy of dungeons and trials. Clearly, the developers should design the entire game around this singular, miraculous Cleric experience. Who cares about balance when we can all just stand still and conjure up AP like it's going out of style? After all, we must uphold the sacred principle that no class should ever dare to excel or stand out. Perhaps in your next stroke of brilliance, Aragon, you could graciously suggest to the developers that they address the Paladin's ability to maintain an everlasting shield through the miraculous 'overpowered animation cancelling'-a technique that seems to escape your keen scrutiny when applied to your own favoured class. It's truly a wonder how your Paladin can bask in the glory of perpetual protection, all while you meticulously point fingers at the Cleric's supposed exploits.
@Sora-o 10 ай бұрын
Only immaculate factual information was typed.
@utahgetme2461 11 ай бұрын
Take your cleric out of the training room and into some content. Its almost impossible to stand still and animation cancle for 8-10 seconds. Thats why the guy said it takes him 20-30 seconds to fill his ap, hes dodging, healing, re-postitioning, artifact calling ect....Seems like you lack playing experience and based your opinion on your training room results.
@JDubbb727 11 ай бұрын
Nice and so true
@dealerofic3cream1 11 ай бұрын
Is true that Aragom sucks but this comment is wrong.
@roubi2544 11 ай бұрын
man he dont even ues animation cancel he ues keybind key xD
@d0n77 11 ай бұрын
correct, many times i can't stand still at all...all i have is that one at-will, can't even stop to heal myself...they need to run some night time pub q's and see the crap storm about to explode when we can't put heals on the floor in time.
@utahgetme2461 11 ай бұрын
@dealerofic3cream1 how so?
@Luthien-Numenesse 11 ай бұрын
Did Brent Norton forgot that cleric is a PURE healer class ? Thats how cleric works. Nerfing it will cause them more players. Some people mentioned afk healing, my cleric is 81k and well let me tell you this i ve never afk healed any advanced and above dingeons only simple ones but even those are unpredictable and you always have to be alert
@ThePityu85 11 ай бұрын
Problem is they are not playing well classes on endgame, then they don't know what happening in there... U see this video, but this is a fake fighting simulation, with useless feat. In fight that ap spam is just many times does not work.
@rondavenport3423 11 ай бұрын
Screw the devs and Brett Norton....they need to fix the bugs in the game and stop screwing players and there toons...
@NerdTrigger 11 ай бұрын
My grandpa used to say, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". I guess devs never learn. Prioritizing on reworking something that does not need fixing is a waste of energy and time. There's no need to do anything over here, what they need is to rework the other healing classes to make them as good as the cleric. These lazy bunch of folks just wants to nerf one class and think that it will level the playing field. BS! I guess they want us to buy more Health Stones and Scrolls of Life at this rate and make healers perform poorly.
@johnedwardii 11 ай бұрын
If they are going to nerf HoT, they should fix Soothe so that you don’t have to aim it. Make it the same as intercession: it heals the party member with the lowest %HP remaining. Also, it should cost 0 divinity as an at-will. Offset its new utility by giving it a cast time.
@Iv3y_Lamar 11 ай бұрын
Exactly
@AlphaTrion810 10 ай бұрын
Fuck sooth, bring back Astral Seal
@capy7488 11 ай бұрын
I m end game cleric healer I could never compete with a mediocre bard on healing and cleric gets nerfed cause healing word its overpowered ?! I get easily doubled on heals by a bard with all cancel animation i m doing, he could easily overpass me, so what exactly i need to put on my self since i m maxed on everything ? I thought cleric its the healer in this game , now , you see thats false. I aggree scattering its strong but lets destroy all cancel animations and macros we have in game , can they? Lets talk about all who do cancel animation cause cleric aint the only one whos doing it. Oh by the way if bard can use binds for songs cause its too annoying to do it manualy why cant i just use cancel animation too?! Make it fair for everyone cause since that bard popped up , cleric aint good enough and now they want to destroy the healing word and whatever is else . Btw that **DAILY** doesnt fill in 8 seconds if you need to move Aragorn , at 2nd boss in demon web pit you don't fill it in 8 seconds with mobs around you so pls stop missinforming people with this with stupid tests on dummy target ,you cant stay still to recharge something .If you want tests go on end game content not on dummy target.Now this at will its fast but not when you need to dodge 20 red circles as you have in 1st boss demon web for instance. On the other hand for instance soothe i need to spam 3 soothe on the 2nd boss so i can heal the souls in mtos while bard will only use 1 at will to heal it . Whats the cast time that i have on soothe whats the cast time that bard has ? Whats my magnitude compared to bard encounters and at wills. They can heal better , shield , buff and clerics are overpowered cause they do a cancel animation ? But please have common sense . If even with cancel animation and being maxed on everything ready for end game i cant compete with a bard then the problem is on bard and they should get nerfed not cleric at all . I understand they wanted a new class but they destroyed a legacy one so they make it playable the new one . What about us who stood here for 10 years ?
@yama_yama_yama 11 ай бұрын
As mentioned in other comments... whatever you're doing to make it go that fast varies at different ranges, you're not always going to be standing in place that close to a boss but looks like it's getting nerfed anyways. I never really did it anyways so no big loss for me but it's funny that in a recent stream they said animation canceling is part of the game. It would be better if they change channel divinity into something else because I never use that lol... I agree they should bring back old powers like Anointed Army and the others you mentioned. The games foundation was built around those spells (for all classes not just Clerics) so it doesn't matter what mechanics they add to bosses because the core of the game will always play how the game USED to be playable. Nowadays it's a broken mess constantly being put back together with duct tape. If they nerf Cleric to the ground again then I'm out (been here since day 1 on Xbox)... and with FF14 finally coming to Xbox then I might just move over to that game as the main game since it will also have crossplay. Sorry for the long /rant but this game is frustrating and sucks that this could be the end of the road for me.
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 10 ай бұрын
*_"whatever you're doing to make it go that fast varies at different ranges"_* It's completely fake, that is not just manual, two-handed animation cancelling. Notice that in Castle Ravenloft against Strahd, APG goes very fast at various times in the end boss room. Aragon has used multiple APG buffs, used illegal hack-exploit keybinds that should get him banned and tweaked the combat settings in the Training Room to make it look at least 5 times faster than it actually is. I get 30 seconds, maybe just over 25, against a target dummy. I never get anything like that in a dungeon, but even that slight boost I DO get will be gone because instead of toning it down, they will abolish the animation cancelling completely. {:o:O:}
@DarkestSoul1990 11 ай бұрын
The next class in which I invested a lot of time will be destroyed, it's time to leave this thankless game
@user-kv1ih9lf5e 11 ай бұрын
Such a great business model isn't it? Nerf one of the most played classes to the ground so everyone quits instead of buffing other classes to be better and people spend money to make the new bis class. But instead they want healers to struggle so people buy more consumables lol.
@DarkestSoul1990 11 ай бұрын
@@user-kv1ih9lf5e They'll mess it up never has the team in this game done anything right as programmers plus the business model in this game is old nothing is worth the money in this game the stuff in the zen store is not worth the money and frankly it's crap
@DarkestSoul1990 11 ай бұрын
@@user-kv1ih9lf5e They nerf and remove things to bring them back in a year it's been a few times they don't have an idea for this game anymore people have to play the same dungeons for years it's funny
@-Saitama 11 ай бұрын
Guys, it's a free to play RPG, what do you expect? Lol
@taorroarcano7626 11 ай бұрын
@@-Saitamait's not free, your spending your most available asset, time .
@mikelee9173 11 ай бұрын
Yeah i want to know who complained that the cleric healer was op? I agree with Aragon that all healers have their specialities. Bard with crazy support, paladins with insane shielding and clerics with pure healing output. This was definitely not needed and development time could have been much better spent elsewhere. This goes to show the production guys at cryptic either don't know or don't care.
@gampie13 11 ай бұрын
the best part of this comment, is that it has no mention of warlock :D
@fredrauch418 11 ай бұрын
I don’t know about insane shielding, since pallys are next in line for rework. And poor forgotten warlocks, with their ranged healing limitations…
@originalitydied8667 11 ай бұрын
Cause warlock is the unwanted middle child that everyone forgets... Totally overshadowed by the eldest and youngest
@rondavenport3423 11 ай бұрын
Both...they dont care and they have no idea what they are doing
@gampie13 11 ай бұрын
@@originalitydied8667 they should just go back to making the lock a "leech" healer, and just give a multiplier on the healing formula so that they can tune the dmg down in line with the other healers
@gemsstr7933 11 ай бұрын
If the cleric is all about the heals, damn straight they should be OP in heals. That's what the team needs them for. But as soon as cryptic gets a sniff of something working really as it should, they nerf it. You know you can't have good things unless you open that wallet....Shame. just go play balders gate 3 (the new Neverwinter)😅
@Lexara111 11 ай бұрын
Most healers certainly do NOT have that much AP to cast dailies anywhere close to what Aragon is demonstrating, put on some starter gear and try that Aragon...pfft. Really short sighted thinking and responsiveness, calling for healers in this game is going to be ever more of a challenge...good job.
@brawndothirstmutilator5863 11 ай бұрын
It's been this way for 4 years and now it's a problem? It's not a fix 4 years later it's a Nerf that will basically kill the class.
@user-kv1ih9lf5e 11 ай бұрын
@brawndothirstmutilator5863 exactly, no clue where this suddenly became an issue. Master demonweb pits maybe because people were surviving mechanics? That dungeon is a joke most the deaths are 1 shots and no amount of ap gain will save them. Worst part about the nerf will be making marilith and apocalypse set useless on cleric if they can't animation cancel for dmg.
@DOC_NO 11 ай бұрын
Bringing back the CW support paragon would be great
@fredrauch418 11 ай бұрын
💯🔥
@rhysmeyers9396 11 ай бұрын
Neverwinter is about to lose 75% of it's Clerics.
@777Maxe 11 ай бұрын
I will stop to play mine although its my main. The game will miss support ? I dont care 🤷🏼♀️ We will have to thank the devs and their wonderful ideas. And maybe i will just stop the game. Waste of time to work on a toon they keep destroying since mod 16.
@user-kv1ih9lf5e 11 ай бұрын
Dont agree with the nerf at all and the animation canceling you showcased isnt realistic. No clue how youre doing it but defintly not getting daily in 8 secs, canceling that fast will get you no ap or dmg at least on console. Besides that wont make a difference will be just like the band of air nerf, the outspoken minority will have their way, plenty of people will leave the game and end gamers will just swap to the next best thing. Cleric was already the worst healing class, only one to compete for worst in slot was warlock but depends on content, would rather have a bard or pally any day. Just an unnecessary nerf considering the long list of things they should be working on like pally/barb changes that were promised months ago.
@azurastar00 11 ай бұрын
I think you got it right by bringing dailies into the discussion. Before anything I wanna point out that I cannot regen my ap that fast, idk if it a server ( ps5) thing or controller, when pressing as fast I can, the powers get stuck and don't do anything. I do think cleric dailies make a lot of difference . It has some really effective healing dailies and the others classes do not. Paladin and bard dailies are situational. Warlocks dailies are great but stationary like most of his powers, which is its main problem imo. Going back to Healing word .....it cannot do everything by itself. Great example is the new mdwp healing alone cannot protect the T from dying on the 1st boss and its not even close to protect the team from poison on the axe phase 3rd boss. However with the help of a daily you can. We cannot forget about rejuvenate carol that does more than healing word I dont think they will go back to buff/debuff cleric causes this is more of bard territory now. Maybe just small buffs and debuffs to some stats. Moreover I don't think they will do 3rd paragon either. PS: Well..I guess we are all a little bias when talking about our classes not so much talking about others. Sorry but no, its not that cleric or the warlock healers are bad on mdw is the paladin tank that is lol. No class should rely on dailies or other classes to do its job. I play with fighter tanks using vistani and grace. Maybe we should stop talking about nerfing cleric , aside from ap regen animation cancel thing, and go back to buffing and paladin and warlock.
@p01am3a 11 ай бұрын
if you heal with a cleric without using animation canceling, a lousy pug group who disregard red areas will leave you dry on divinity even in lomm at 75k il, so nerfing healing word is plain stupid from my point of view - fixing animation canceling is understandable, especially if it's not intended, but how viable is a paragon on any class should only be determined by choices in stats and feats alone, not by messing with core skills that have no real alternatives available for a build
@johnedwardii 11 ай бұрын
I think you just explained why they think it is OP. A healer shouldn’t be strong enough to carry a lousy group through content that should have killed them all due to their lack of play skills. As a DC, I have been able to keep the worse PUGs alive except those those dungeons that have bosses with “dps checks.”
@p01am3a 11 ай бұрын
@@johnedwardii would have been OP with unlimited divinity, but in a group of 5, with a single healer, should be normal to be able to cover some mistakes since the idiots will still die at some point … I never play with canceling animations and I main a cleric since mod 6, so as it is now it’s still a nerf compared to what the cleric was capable of before mod 16
@bloodmoon135 11 ай бұрын
Your daily is up fast bc your action point gain is high. Not every cleric can do that especially 70k plus dc who do not spec into action action point. cannot afford overload for action point gain or does not equip gear for action point gain. Devs forget 70% of the clerics do not play with super groups and already struggling with healing and divinity gain. Not everyday u get a good tank and a group that does not make mistakes. They listen to 1 person without looking at the whole picture. Dc cannot prevent one shot and yet they want to put them on the back bench and they do it using the excuse of balancing. What is balancing? Huh? Everyone who plays NW for more than 7 yrs knows the history. There's always one class that's super and everyone wants them and thus other shunned classes suffer. Devs always contradicting themselves. Oh this class must be nerfed but another class super good lol. On top of that clerics arent the only class that can animation cancel.
@chowshows 11 ай бұрын
brett has proven that the devs dont play the game. they obviously havent played the last boss of demonweb because you need everything at your disposal. they must have tested the dungeons/trial in a vacuum.
@Xpektahdeth 11 ай бұрын
What it DOES probably prove is that they play/see the game enough to know that 9 out of 10 groups in end game come "prerequisite" with a cleric healer and NO OTHER healer class.... When there are three OTHER healer classes out there but clerics are the desired choice because they are CLEARLY op then what SHOULD happen are these nerfs OR giving the OTHER healing classes buffs to make them as viable as the cleric. Doesn't take a ton of skill to spam healing word, and animation cancel for hallowed ground/angel rinse and repeat, fella.
@chowshows 11 ай бұрын
@@Xpektahdeth so you haven’t played demo web pits
@forgottenbymortals9656 11 ай бұрын
It's real easy to build AP when you fighting a giant thing that doesn't move or fight back. Good against remotes is one thing, good against the living, that's something else.
@melissacarroll4336 11 ай бұрын
So they're going to make my main useless. Thanks cryptic
@mrelmgreen33 11 ай бұрын
How in the world are you animation cancelling so fast? If I go that fast I get zero ap gain
@d0n77 11 ай бұрын
that is because you are on console and he is on pc, or something is broken...i can't spam it like that either, i get no AP...i never played NW on pc, so i really can't speak on it...what i can say is that when the healer gets targeted, while trying to heal, slowing down AP means ppl gonna die a lot more... in pub q's on console, i see loads of problems, bad tanks are going to become more of a cancer than usual again...ppl bout to start fighting in q's again, then ppl quit...things were a lot less toxic bcuz of ability to over heal...the mind herpes are about to return, should be real fun...if certain things worked properly, it would not be too bad, but i notice often that i get no AP gain, it just chooses when it wants to work on console...if they go too far with the nerfs, just be ready for hell eruptions more often.
@d0n77 11 ай бұрын
the healer nerf should also come with locking ppl out of dungeons that should not be in there in the 1st place.
@mrelmgreen33 11 ай бұрын
I am on pc, not console. I can animation cancel. But I can't do it like he does if I do it that fast I end up canceling the ap gain. Which I find very strange
@user-kv1ih9lf5e 11 ай бұрын
@mrelmgreen33 figured something was off, thought it could be a console thing but thanks for confirming that the test was completely unrealistic
@tuling5474 11 ай бұрын
@@mrelmgreen33 yes , clicking should has rhythm. if i click too fast, i do not gain ap. 8 sec is crazy .
@dealerofic3cream1 11 ай бұрын
Why mess with things that are working? Wtf is wrong with Cryptic? They don't even PLAY the game.
@HardRockL1L 11 ай бұрын
Oh dear, why you made this video to show Devs that cleric can still use animation cancelling on the other at-will? Lol they will fix this too next.
@d0n77 11 ай бұрын
they said AP limiter, it's already over, coming to a toon near you.
@brawndothirstmutilator5863 11 ай бұрын
He's anti fun. Remember he said you can't with your shield up or that he never has so the shield glitch isn't real....
@ghetto4790 11 ай бұрын
Do they play this game or not ? I realt don't understand those game creators. Why they always doesnt fix this what should be fixed or balanced ? Melees characters cant complete mtos.. Barb tank has a problem with aggro.. (barb overall is almost useless) Wizard is one sure and reliable dps for all content. I don't mean to nerf wizard. I just wanna all classes to be competitive. Paladin need dot healing for dungeons. Paladin tank needs better magnutudes and maybe temp hp (yellow) from templar etc etc.
@dealerofic3cream1 11 ай бұрын
No they don't.
@fredrauch418 11 ай бұрын
💯
@LMVR326 11 ай бұрын
Tbh almost all classes were Better pre mod 16. I still don't understand why they bothered to balance all classes in mod 15 only to destroy them in mod 16, and then rework the healers again around mod 17 or whenever it was, but hey one thing we do know ... cryptic Will always be cryptic
@katiaazizi 11 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@p01am3a 11 ай бұрын
the devs don't like it when players can speed run content - less time spent in game by players, less things needed to buy, less revenue for them ... they need us to grind all the new crap they put out
@althegamer6606 11 ай бұрын
@@p01am3aits their kind of " go woke go broke " i really hope they dont touch my clric god sake he maby low but i i got two healing builds that revovle around word as it is and i know they are will to fuk it. Up for no reason other then money
@ThePityu85 11 ай бұрын
They broke ppl's bank!!! so they make ppl for more gind....more hours in-game. That's it. Most disgusting shit was that moment. Next broken shit coming soon...sadly :(
@mikenutt2840 11 ай бұрын
i miss the days of stacking lifesteal, and the healing classes would just bring the buffs and maybe emergency heal to help them build up there daily
@lazarond 11 ай бұрын
You mentioned wanting some of the older abilities they used to have. When some clerics out there with their "features" still have those old powers in loadouts... yes legacies still exist. But ya.. to me the warlock needs love and the pally needs an HoT. Maybe the warlock similar to how the templock used to work where you deal damage to heal.
@Aragon- 11 ай бұрын
yeah I noticed xD and yeah, compared to Warlock, Cleric is in a far better state. Warlock definitely needs some love
@fredrauch418 11 ай бұрын
Cleric healers are very much sought after in end game content. At least on Xbox, there’s devouts everywhere! Bards and pallys have a higher skill ceiling, so there’s not as many endgame. Most can trust clerics, as it’s heals on easy mode. It was only a matter of time, with people showcasing speed runs and animation canceling. On console, you can’t animation cancel like that on pc. Side note, maybe this nerf will fix the cleric mark door bug in dungeons. So tired of being stuck with my symbol held high to the sky!
@worldboss-_-gaming5138 11 ай бұрын
Rip DC heal Bard+ OP meta incoming fml
@Aragon- 11 ай бұрын
It is already like that for trials, but we shall see what happens
@durgan5668 11 ай бұрын
I only have one healer out of 6 toons, and it was cleric. Making playing one more difficult reminds me why I don't buy zen to support the game any longer. Used to buy a lot, no longer.
@synthwavefreak9323 11 ай бұрын
The old combat system was so good i miss it
@Aragon- 11 ай бұрын
I miss it too
@fredrauch418 11 ай бұрын
Bring back AC/DO!!
@brawndothirstmutilator5863 11 ай бұрын
It was a million times better back then. The devs have no clue what is fun.
@tfchaffee4393 11 ай бұрын
Consoles can't cancel that fast. Rip clerics
@aaggroberlin19 11 ай бұрын
Hey aragon. I heard that there is a problem with tower of the mad mage, so i wanted to ask you if you know anything about it. What people told me, was that there is a chance that you can get pushed of the platform for no reaso, so i wanted to know if you experienced the same thing? Or was it patched?
@Aragon- 11 ай бұрын
that got fixed. I posted a gameplay video yesterday, and we did about 12 runs, no problems
@aaggroberlin19 11 ай бұрын
@@Aragon- Is it only on pc? Because a coupple of days ago somebody told me when i did my first master demo and asked them if anyone is attempting the no death run on xbox. One of them told me that people got pushed of the platform so not one did it in about a year. Was it fixed recently?
@Omniholic. 11 ай бұрын
Warlock DPS build Next ? ❤
@kypcole 11 ай бұрын
Hold on, lemme get the hazmat suit for the oncoming flames
@Aragon- 11 ай бұрын
ahahaha xD
@adminshaka 11 ай бұрын
Remove blue shields from powers. Cleric heals are useles compared to damage mitigation by paladins. No sense
@St.ellata 10 ай бұрын
Aragon, i cry with you along. The Buff-Features should really come back and also at the Warlock Healer. Warlock-Healing now is the lowest you can do. Useless to play. And on my cleric healer I didnt gain any ap gain from blessing. It has been working and after one patch I couldnt use it for ap gain. I thought, they did it on purpose with a patch and not mention it in the patchnotes. Now Im thinking that my healer is bugged. I hope, that i didnt need to "throw away" the next healer i maxed out. First they killed the warlock, now the cleric. very sad though. Thanks for your video and bringing back the memories of the older times.
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 10 ай бұрын
*_"on my cleric healer I didnt gain any ap gain from blessing"_* APG from just casting _Blessing of Light_ was removed long ago. Now, it sometimes works a little in combat, but you are not going to stand there casting an At Will buff to your next heal over and over and over just to get some AP. {:o:O:}
@tricered13 11 ай бұрын
I thought they weren't nerfing anything? But if we're going to start nerfing stuff, maybe buff things first. Specifically I basically gave up on my warlock heals for new content. Buff powers that don't work instead of ruining the super easy powers like cleric or bard heals.
@heath6499 11 ай бұрын
Most people on consoles can't cancel like that
@fredrauch418 11 ай бұрын
💯
@edwardhealey591 11 ай бұрын
People on PC can't either, it gives 0 ap in reality if you attack that fast.
@user-vi2vd2ru4x 10 ай бұрын
Just made a bard and it seem like the 15% you were talking about doesnt work. Its says stack 3 time on the boon yet it only give me 5% outgoing healing and not 15
@Aragon- 10 ай бұрын
It gives 15% to your team, not yourself
@user-vi2vd2ru4x 10 ай бұрын
is it a bug or im getting 5% from somewhere else? ty for answer btw@@Aragon-
@Aragon- 10 ай бұрын
@@user-vi2vd2ru4x you can get 5% from a class feature
@user-vi2vd2ru4x 10 ай бұрын
thats where its from ty, Still trying to see how close to cap outgoing healing I can be using all debuff @@Aragon-
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 10 ай бұрын
@@Aragon- 15% Outgoing Healing to the _team?_ Why would a Barbarian, Wizard or Ranger need that? {:o:O:}
@oowhysoserious 11 ай бұрын
Basically the same “feature” the bard used to spam at-will for crazy damage.
@user-kv1ih9lf5e 11 ай бұрын
Same feature barbarians use to do a ton of dmg with at wills, same as warlocks although it's not necessary but helps.
@oowhysoserious 11 ай бұрын
@@user-kv1ih9lf5e Don’t those classes rely on shift instead of tab though? Same animation “feature” but different cancellation method.
@user-kv1ih9lf5e 11 ай бұрын
@oowhysoserious yes "dodging" same concept though.
@rylorthreev1353 11 ай бұрын
Talking about old stuff made me miss old paladin tank, building power and cooldown to get the yellow and blue hp bars and at the same time buffing the entire team, it was... weird, to build a tank with offensive stats
@Moooonlit 11 ай бұрын
Old cleric looks so cool I hope they will bring it back we need the damage and the damage resistance now more than any mod 😢 I don't mind the HW and daily nerf I like a challenge when it comes to healing but give us something for people to ask us for 😞
@JeniGr 11 ай бұрын
Mod 13-14 were the best.....❤we need acdc acdo bufs powershare debufs etc...great cleric days....anyway
@johngillan4475 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your information video
@pudelinocacalat2951 11 ай бұрын
Someone call the ambulance. This cleric isn't feeling well
@redkelly8113 11 ай бұрын
We need pre mod16 again. I spoke with the devs and they well obviously don't want to rework the full game again but idgaf bring it back
@xXG3TPWNEDXx 11 ай бұрын
I've been saying it ever since they destroyed the game with Module 16. They took away buffs and debuffs from the classes. They also created these boring feats and took all the ones from the old system away and gave us only 2 paragon paths. This resulted in stale and boring gameplay that I have lamented about at nauseum since module 16. Make the classes fun to play again. It's ok if a class is strong or broken to a degree. It addicting and that's why we play. To get strong and to feel that accomplishment of grinding. Classes are so stale and everyone is the same cookie cutter build, most of the feats suck or do very little on some classes, at wills are painfully slow, and a lot of the encounters are useless, as well as the dailies. Before module 16 there was plenty of ways to express your playstyle. Currently you cannot express your style or creativity in the game. It's already decided for you. Please change this. Give us 3 paragons, rework feats, give us at least double what we have now to choose from for EACH paragon. Update some skills and rework some encounters,dailies, and feats. Give them flavor and a reason to be taken for different situations please. THANKS.
@farizfaizal4118 11 ай бұрын
everyone talking about cleric.. but i want knight valor (fighter) the be like old want.. protecting the nearest party member is useless when your range dps got 1 shotted from ads lol
@user-vi2vd2ru4x 11 ай бұрын
I think these power reducing too much the damage are def not a good idea to bring back considering the current balance. Id be for changing useless power over changing the already useful ones. It was fine back then considering everything was crazy now they normalized it and lets face it its not coming back as this would be too much work to rebalance. Edit: If they bring some back give back movement speed and the bleeding on Long strider shot, it was so nice to attack from ranger and run close with it.
@voidwizard2067 11 ай бұрын
I always had trouble healing and almost never used my daily power. Saved it until absolutely necessary. But seeing that trick you did and how quickly you get back all that power for the globe seems like cheating but I may have to try it.
@MekanicalMonster77 11 ай бұрын
and they obly going to nerf healer, but what about dps Cleric? Sadly rigth now is the lowest dps out there cooldown from encounter powers some are really long and other´s you can spam them if you have dinitiy if now you have to get divinity to use encounter powers again if you llok to wizzard encounter, the wizzar can use the encounters a lot fastar then the cleric and plus if the cleric rount out of divinity it took a LOOOT more time to use encounters, and that´s meen a lot less dps i hope they rework the Cleric as dps and change to amout of cost of divinity o redyce the tme of the encounters
@user-vi2vd2ru4x 11 ай бұрын
annointed army was ridiculous op though basivcally a 2nd life
@blacky719 11 ай бұрын
They'll never get my ap gain down , same for my sprinting tank 😂
@shimizutanitheii8945 10 ай бұрын
Was gonna roll a Cleric. Guess not 😅
@user-vv5kl7ft5x 10 ай бұрын
Actually despite what most people are saying this was very viable in dungeons and even made pve very soloable on a healer build and I can't believe I came back and actually spent money before I found out that my cleric is now the most boring NPC bot type play style ever, I can't move while using scattering light anymore and can't have %100 up time on my dailies. that was the only thing making this game enjoyable for me, I was hoping it would stay as one of the games many "features." so depressing.
@filiptruty6367 11 ай бұрын
Im not a pro. Im just a somewhat invested newbie. I always play supports in all games 😅. Cleric heal was my fav for the time I play. Now I am left with deleting main and swaping my class to something else or just leaving the game. Yay thx for ruining the game for me devs
@brunobonfatti2835 11 ай бұрын
Let’s F sups, but equipment and decent gear no. We re lacking sups in the game, but a lot of hdps 😂. Why not fix? Tanks still not able to scroll if dying shield. Orcs red areas in one side, and dmg on another. Orc being aggro by players even after dying. Spider healing outside the arena….but ok. Let’s make more zen and force people to spend time through sheet broken mechs.
@evan4517 11 ай бұрын
More Damage for Arbiter need!!!
@record9090 11 ай бұрын
Cryptic 🤬...
@hauntifulkat 10 ай бұрын
it's called dkeybinds. you're abusing them. and you're the one who poked the devs.
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 10 ай бұрын
Quite right, the devs have always said that you cannot use binds to perform two or more separate actions at once, EG tie 3 Encounters to a single key, or Mount Power, Artefact and Daily to single key and so on. I mentioned this to Aragorn *YESTERDAY* and he denied it. {:o:O:}
@Aragon- 10 ай бұрын
You can bind every single power to one key in game ...
@0Jsays 11 ай бұрын
Bbbbbooooooooo
@zkrings 11 ай бұрын
No wonder cleric is op compared to other healer class. Now I understand. Would be great if cleric is "balance" and be equally playable like warlock, bard and paladin. Can't wait to see the paladin changes.
@ThePityu85 11 ай бұрын
Fake fight simulation...with useless feat. Nerf other healers! They got mooore dmg buff stuff. nerf tanks. because of too much aggro, like barbarian. :D Nerf op macro tank with daily spam, nerf GF tank with bugged dig-shield... f.. this game. I think that snowflake Rockster is a pug sw or bard healer...
@MrIamsosmrt 11 ай бұрын
To be honest I would hate for the buff meta to come back. Before mod 16 most groups only ran 1 dps and the rest was focused on buffing that 1 dps. Heal wasn't really needed because of lifesteal. As a rogue who could only dps and not buff and who was far from bis it was basically impossible to find a group for harder content. I think they should fix the action point gain exploit and then see how it balances the class before doing any other nerfs for the cleric.
@brawndothirstmutilator5863 11 ай бұрын
Not true every healer healed more than your hitpoints anytime they healed. Life steal was pointless in group play and rouge was always one of the highest dps in the game. Any dps that is/was far from BIS has a hard time getting in runs.
@justinmaier193 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, fixing the ap gain is much needed. It is being "fixed" because its not ment to happen. Nerfing healing word isnt needed, but bringing all the healers up to a fair lv (mainly the healing warlock) will make playing a healer more fun. I main a heallock, and 9/10 people would rather have a cleric over the heallock any day.
@brawndothirstmutilator5863 11 ай бұрын
No taking the one thing that makes the class playable isn't needed. How would you like it if they nerfed tyrannical curse into the ground?
@Xpektahdeth 11 ай бұрын
The ONLY people who will rage about this nerf are those "entitled", lifer-cleric players who walk around thinking that they are gods because of the easy, skill free cleric heals. Mayne now we will begin to see groups willing to take OTHER healer classes into groups. Give the paladin an AoE heal and see what happens.
@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095 10 ай бұрын
*_"The ONLY people who will rage about this..."_* This is Fake, by the way. He has a lot of things like items, mounts, companions, consumables and gear buffing his APG, and he's doing it in the artificial conditions of the practice room with tweaks to the combat situation. It is not possible to fill AP under normal setting in less than 30 seconds, and that is when you do absolutely nothing but animation cancel. You cannot do absolutely nothing but animation cancel in an actual dungeon with a party. For one thing, you constantly remove and re-apply the TAB from the Tank to a random dps, also, you are not being attacked, you are not responding to mobs, you are not responding to bosses, you are not looking after 4 other players, you are not keeping an eye on the red, you are not repositioning yourself you are not healing characters with Bastion or Intercession, you aren't doing your fecking job. At all. No wonder so many people despise him for his dishonesty. {:o:O:}
@johnnyperal 11 ай бұрын
I love how all these clerics are crying cuz they're finally getting a nerf. Lol
@Sora-o 10 ай бұрын
Actual brain rot comment.
@Waves73 11 ай бұрын
stop crying clerics, it was always the "noob" healing class, just because of its simplicity to play. now bring warlock heal in line with the other heals!
@fredrauch418 11 ай бұрын
Please give warlock heals some range!
@alex23alex74 11 ай бұрын
Don't hate classes man, everyone have their liking and preferences. It's just cryptic that just won't listen to all the players.
@Oni-Ryu8 11 ай бұрын
Swaggamoron
@Waves73 11 ай бұрын
@@alex23alex74 i dont hate classes, just tell me in which situation would u prefer a warlock heal?
@kypcole 11 ай бұрын
@@Waves73I'll tell you after I roll one
@kosmosstormstrike3438 11 ай бұрын
I am gonna be real, people need to stop whining and crying just because cryptic might be nerfing a single encounter power. I am sorry, but this is not a point and click adventure game, this is an mmorpg. So suck it up and adapt, as obviously classes are going to get nerfed, if they are overused or a certain power is used the most. It is so that all classes are used equally with there own pros and cons instead of most the playerbase using one class and ability and abandoning all the others. Jeez people nowadays just want everything to be served on a silver platter instead of optimizing, adapting and overcoming changes. I enjoy the new change as it means people will have to actually learn things instead of just sitting there ignoring everything else and expecting the healers to constantly save them, then whine when they die.
@rattamytata1970 11 ай бұрын
The only reason people use healing word now is because bastion of health was nerfed (they said it was too efficient if played around and wanted to make it easier to use for everyone else) Healing word WAS how they adapted. Now they might nerf healing word or adjust it to be less efficient despite intentionally making cleric easy and efficient. Now they claim that the gameplay is too centred around healing with every class having to compare their heals to healing word after things like undermountain replacing supports with healers and the intentional healing overhauls to make the healers more similar? They keep bandaiding their own changes after deeming something ‘too op’ despite it being a consequence of their actions while not fixing the core problems, or fixing most issues in general tbh.
@kosmosstormstrike3438 11 ай бұрын
@@rattamytata1970 Well clerics will just have to adapt again, same with every other class. If something is being overused and everything else is being ignored, it is obviously going to be tweaked so that other abilities get looked over and used. Or in the case of dps, they stop standing still ignoring all mechanics and expect to be carried by healers and instead they read up about mechanics and learn like tanks and healers have to. A very good example of dps expecting to be carried by healers is Gzemnid's reliquary. The amount of times that has failed on the streams of fire stage is ridiculous as all dps just stand still and try to kill one of the 4 Gzemnid's then get one shot by the stream of fire instead of using their legs and moving around the arena. At the end of that stage the only ones left standing was the two healers and two tanks, so that just shows that dps don't bother to learn mechanics and it is always the support.
@GlennElliottKeller 11 ай бұрын
@@kosmosstormstrike3438Right, and nerfing healers more isn’t going to change this fact. People aren’t just going to all of a sudden smarten up. They will remain stupid, except now they will be just as stupid with weaker healers that have to “aDaPT” and try harder for a group of DPS who doesn’t even care anyway.
@kosmosstormstrike3438 11 ай бұрын
@@GlennElliottKeller I still find it funny that apparently a nerf to a single encounter power means that Clerics are now useless and all healers are nerfed when it was just the healing word ability which might not even get nerfed. People seriously need to stop crying as a single encounter has been nerfed, boohoo clerics are now useless, boohoo. News flash they are not
@GlennElliottKeller 11 ай бұрын
@@kosmosstormstrike3438 I wouldn’t make the argument that they will be useless, just that they will be less effective healers overall. Your point about people needing to learn mechanics is valid though, this will result in less wasted effort on the healer’s part which is good, but in endgame content people already know this stuff, so a cleric healer works less anyway. I guess they think a cleric healer’s job is a little too easy?
@heath6499 11 ай бұрын
They said they wouldn't nerf it I heard them say that
@Iv3y_Lamar 11 ай бұрын
They literally said “we’re not nerfing cleric” on Aragon’s recent video 😂😂😂
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