What is the most expensive mountain bike mistake that you have made?

I'm not sure there is any more expensive mistake that can be made than getting into MTB in the first place. 😨

Hans Rey also was my hero. When we couldn't ride a section of trail we used to say "Hans would ride that". My favourite expression of Hans' is "on a suspension bike, you can ride over all kinds of obstacles" in a German accent. Great guy.

RockShox, because you can service everything by yourself without spending more money for the special tools than the actual shock

Oooooh Fox Vs. Rockshox? I'm team Rockshox, purely because I was bike mechanic when Fox launched their forks and they had a five minute service interval between having to replace the damn seals.

Hans in tricks and stunts with Martyn Ashton was great also 👌

Thanks for the recommendation for no way Doddy.. I was at the 92 bike expo at ally pally and got to see him perform and sign my gt brochure.. Been a GT fan ever since.. In fact still have my 92 Karakoram (tequila sunrise) which is one of my prize possessions.. Keep up the great work.. 🤙

Amazing work as always. Love the tech show!!!

I’m here to let everyone know about an important experiment I have conducted, and the results are in.... Tan Sidewall tires make you 18% faster (tested on a 1.2k downhill track) and 100% cooler than everyone else.

Put my bike on the roof of my car. Drove to leogang. After 6h of driving i forgot having the bike on the roof. Checked into my hotel. Went to the carpark and drove against the ceiling. Bike fell off the car. Damage: Broken roof on my relatively new car, broken rooftop mounting, broke the screw inserts of the car for the bikemounting and scratches all over the trunk of the car. Luckily the bikes where almost undamaged (just some paint scratches and a broken brake cable) Total cost: >3000€ Start into vacation: priceless

Hans Rey 🙏🏾. One of the greatest bike-riders ever. People should definitely check him. Specially those early stuff from the 80s. Dude was (and still is) amazing on his bikes.

Some years ago I accidentally grabbed the reverb fluid instead of the dot and bleed both guide brakes with it... destroyed the seals on both levers! On the bright side I learned that the orings in the calipers are not that sensitive. Did a couple more tests and spent the next 3 years running a shimano lever with a sram caliper using mineral fluid! On another occasion i shortened my chain using the chain pin and not the Shimano pin or a missing link. Almost at the top of Corcovado mountain in Rio de Janeiro my chain broke grabbed the derailleur and shoved it into my rear wheel! Good thing the way back home was mostly downhill and it didn't damaged the rear wheel too much

I appreciate your videos. Very helpful and helps increase my bike IQ. I make a point of watching your adds to help support your channel. Cheers from Mississauga Ontario Canada.

I'm still running a 2005 Marzocchi fork to this day. Very few options for adjustment but they're pretty good from the factory, cheap, easy to maintain and last almost forever. I simply don't understand why open bath is not common anymore. Maybe the weight of that extra fluid is a concern? I don't know.

Had a carbon frame and the rear triangle was loose so I tightened it up job done this happened a couple of times but what I didn't realise was the bearing had failed so I was just crushing the carbon each time I was tightening the bolt hence I wrote off frame 😭

Hey Doddy! From East coast USA. Hans Rey is the man. I still have a GT hat he signed here in Baltimore at local shop dealer I worked for in '90's. I also met Trevor Myers n the gt show team. Way cool👍. Still have almost every GT I've ever owned. 8 total. BMX. XC, DH.🇺🇸 Do it all.

How about Ned Overend with Specialized. His work with the brand started in 1987, and I believe he won the 2015 Fat bike championship still sponsored by them. A true honorable mention.

Hi Doddy, I have recently completed my bike cave and am wanting to send it into the bikecave segment to go on the show. I've been trying for weeks now to upload it but the uploader seems to be broken, I have tried on multiple devices also. The problem is that the part in the uploader that says 'please select a category to upload to...' doesn't have any options for me to click on in the drop down box that it prompts me to, it just says 'select' as the only option. I am trying in the Tech section also. the GMBN seems to not work either, with this same exact problem. Thank you.

I love Hans. I also remember Libor Karas. He rode for Cannondale. He was the first trials rider I saw in person. I was so inspired to ride everything.

I only recently got into mountain biking so I'm new to the channel(s). I am really enjoying the videos, they're very informative and fun to watch. Thanks Doddy!

FEELS! For the guy trying to hunt down a derailleur. Had same problem for 2 months in australia

That d3o looks exactly like my motorcycle back insert. It's great.

That non-Newtonian back protector seems super cool.

Both brands are great. But I go with Fox just because I like to logo more.

@GMBNTech, I also lean towards Rockshox, but my let's toast a glass for the Marzocchi inverted forks! Good times!

Rockshox: More affordable to the average rider, has forks at the low end with trickle down tech. Easier to setup and adjust than Fox. Fox: Forks are harder to setup, but can feel better once they are. Has Kashima (I mean, who doesnt love Kashima?). Very easy to work out what the fork is for by the naming system - I can spend forever trying to find out what the stanchion diameter for forks are on older bikes with suspension from smaller brands. Fox will never have this problem (except the 49 but we dont talk about that). Biggest setback of both: they dont come with the MRP ramp control cartridge or equivalent, which owners rave about endlessly. One owner is Seth (Berm Peak), and he just cant stop going on about it.

The one closest to Hans Rey in sponsor longevity is probably Tinker Juarez. He's been with Cannondale for 27 years, since 1994 and is still racing.

Don't forget JEZ AVERY 🤘 seen him live up south Yorkshire, class!!! As for most expensive mistake, Pair of triple clamps on a steel rmb equipe, 1 jump 1 bent top tube, my good friend done that do! Lessons learned 🤘

Over tightening my bb. I completely removed the thread, so I have to use a press fit bb since then

Hans Rey.. Quite simply a bike god and MTB founding father. 🙏

Was servicing my rear Rockshox suspension - replaced all the seals and cleaned, added lube, the works .... was trying to scre the main canister (air chamber) back on but couldn't turn the thread enough to catch and begin to tighten. I unscrewed the Reservoir canister attached to the shock ... Massive burst of air and oil spewed everywhere (ended up needing to go the doctors because i got it in my eye) - luckily my bike shop had a former Rockshox expert and was able to refill and pressurise the Resevoir - £200 .. never again

My first pair of decent forks were a pair of RockShox Judy xc 4inch travel forks on a 2000 Giant Warp DS1 bike I used for downhill till I got my hands on a Craftworks downhill bike. These forks were amazing with an open bath system, compression, and rebound. Fast forward to now where I have a 2018 Norco sight A3 with Rockshox Revelation 150mm forks recently upgraded to 160mm and Charger 2 damper system. I love Rockshox because of how simple they make it to service or upgrade your forks.

I think when it comes to Fox vs Rockshox, people play teams. I feel like many people are influences by Fox's cool logo. And their Kashima coating is all hype. Kashima coating is just hard anodizing.

Co-worker of mine cutting the steerer tube of customers out of the box fox fork. Measured twice, marked it and made the cut, ended up with him marking and cutting at the wrong end of the steerer - 2 inches of steerer tube left on the brand new fork.

Some of these mistakes bring tears to my eyes.

Hans is the bomb. Been following him too since back in the day. He can still ride like decades ago!

I’m currently still learning how to jump, manual, bunny hop etc. properly on flat pedals. Would you recommend i stick with flats for a bit or would switching to clipless not be a problem either? Just want to make sure me technique develops propery as opposed to using clipless pedals to lift.

Top Hat and poka Dot 'Dotty' suit for the judging getup

Hans is one of a kind and it might actually stay that way how the frequency is looking these days.

I've only ridden both Fox and RS forks in the long-travel variants, so this might not apply with sub 140mm forks. I find that the adjustments on Fox are more independent of each other - by that I mean you can have quite heavy damping on low-speed compression, and yet still really active on the high-speed compression for example, and tweaking one doesn't really affect the other. On RS forks, it felt like there was a bit more interplay between the two, so if you change one damper setting, you had to adjust the other as well. I found (because of that setting independence i think) that I could get Fox forks to be both supportive, yet extremely active and open, whereas I struggled to get that balance with RS.

What about Ned Overend and Specialized? He might have a longer association Specialized than Hans + GT. But Hans has had more influence.

I'm surprised you didn't mention Ned Overend. That man has been riding for Specialized for as long as I can remember.

I'm sure I saw that 3DO on a motorbike channel just last week; incredible bit of protective tech.

Steve Jones certainly isn’t hard on bikes by jumping…

So many after 35 years in the saddle. Car park barrier vs bikes on roof - new pace RC35 legs / 2x headsets (new car roof and rack), Orange Aluminium O and mates M2. Still riding my Answer Manitou well into my forties, now it has a split head tube (I could cry at this loss to the biking world). Braking the front mech on the Manitou just changing gears and then not getting a new band for the 1.5" seat tube straight away, then spending years on a hybrid solution. Getting my mk1 Cannondale Scalpel Team Edition from California (even paying the import/vat, I saved almost a grand), then finding the fork had a manufacturing 'issue' and of course no warranty (my local Dale dealer saved me - I will never forget or stop using / recommending them). Buying second hand Mavic Crossmax SLR wheels from ebay, now getting extreme with the hubdoctor fixes (I'm on my third fix from the US) to keep my Lynskey going as the wear gets worse and worse over the years (been on it since 2014).

I have D3O in my hockey equipment. Fantastic product

Been there done that with truing my wheel, until I eventually gave up and took it to a bike shop.

Roof top carrier; after running the bike into own garage, fast food drive through overhang, underground parking, and a bunch of other things, I decided that mode of bike transport just isn't for me. One of those times I broke the seat tube in half (lightweight kcnc luckily)

Over torquing the Fox 38 bleed port bolts. Took a week to get replacement bolts from fox. 1 week no riding 😬 priceless

Brands should pay riders better and make long term contracts if the riders continue to live up to the terms. Rode GT back in the 90’s and loved the Zaskar! Thank for the Hans Rey memories.

When it comes to buying parts that can't be returned after they're modified, "Measure Twice, Cuss Once". Better to be annoyed at a longer wait to finish a project than to also be out the money of the modified part plus the part you ACTUALLY need.

I prefer high SR Suntour, massively under rated, currently using durolux forks and they’re amazing

lol why doesn't rock shock and fox make a super rare front fork suspension? That would be so sick!

I’m sure Black Panther stole D30 for his suit...

Hans in Chainspotting is cool

Those bos forks look amazing..... but that rebound adjustment at the bottom looks super exposed 😳 @8:24

Awesome show this week Doddy

Rockshox is user friendly while fox is more of a race breed suspension where you can tune it precisely, because of high/low speed rebound and compression

RockShox versus Fox: I've owned and ridden both Rockshox and Fox since getting my first Mag 21 in Dec. 1992. You can't go wrong with either one. It seems Rockshox has more die hard "fanboys" and it's fun to mess with them. When asked which I prefer I have a stock answer, "If you're going to race the Baja 1000 you buy Fox, not Rockshox. Go with the company that has been building some of the toughest shocks in the world." Personally I prefer Fox, but only because I like the look of the Factory orange, it's purely aesthetic.

Classic error of mine. Swapping a drive train on my Felt Vertue Two from 3x9 to a 1x10 setup. I bought a cheap 10 spd cassette. On test riding the gears seemed to drag especially in lower gears. Thinking it was due to cheap cassette I went out and bought a genuine Shimano one. Took the bike into the shop and the salesman took one look at the chain running through my derailleur. I had run the chain through the wrong side of the cage so it rubbed on the little chain guard inside there. DOH! At least I now have a spare cassette. Not the most expensive but stupid!

my biggest, by far, mistake was, new stem was not tight enough, hit a small jump, landed front heavy, stem/bar twisted, went OTB. did a forward roll but left shoulder heavy. almost cost me my left shoulder. 3 months rest.

Rockshox, affordable in different price points, from budget to more expensive options, fox however are more high end. Would love a set of fox forks, but I need all my internal organs lol

I got my new Transition Patrol after my last one was stolen, while putting it together out of the box I tightened the top cap too tight breaking the star nut...Silver lining, I learned how to remove and place a star nut.

@Doddy what on earth did you do to bend that vice handle lol

Hats off to Hans Rey! Cool dude. A pioneer in his own right. ✌👍Lmao haven't heard anyone use the term "endo" in years. 👍😅

Hans is an absolute legend. It‘s a shame that the kids these days don‘t know him. On the other side, I had to ask what the fuzz with these „Sick“ T-Shirts is all about in the bike park. Every generation has its heroes. But Hans already did it in the 90s. With cantilever brakes and no suspension and 560mm bars…

Fox vs Rock Shox? No contest. Manitou :P

Following on from the hiplok locks, would love a piece on locking up bikes at home.

Broke a air valve on a 2010 monarch 3.1 shock, couldnt find a new part and tried retrofitting a valve, couldnt find any 😂😂

I was also working in a hurry, i put grease on the threads of my new forks Postmount. Sadly it was to much so when screwing the calliper on it cracked the Postmount.

I was listening more than watching the video... and when I first caught the screen out of the corner of my eye... I thought the picture over your left shoulder was Stewie Griffin

looking forward to your wheel care review.

As my first MTB ever I ordered Capra CF Race (5300 euros). Once it arrived i got scared of complicated suspension settings and carbon wheels so i decided to send it back and ordered cheaper 4400 euro version with a bit simpler rear shock and alu wheels. YT Industries had to wire me 5300 euro back however i gave them wrong bank account. The account I gave was not in same currency as wire transfer from YT Industries. My bank charged me 5% fee for that :(.

Rockshox is best coz it also does budget stuff that is upgradable. Eg: I got a rockshox yari 160mm that came on my £2,000 enduro bike but I can just swap the damper out to charger 2.1 then I essentially have a lyric. Rockshox also has the sag percentage readings on the stanchion so you don’t have to get out a ruler.

A friend was a Norco rep with a van and 6 bikes on the top. Pulled into some motel in Idaho and destroyed the roof of the van, 4 of 6 bikes and the motel roof.

I love both suspension brands, they work flawlessly. However, I tend to like fox more because of the looks (kashima) and also the huge adjustability.

D3o I’ve seen in snowboarding base layers and is superb

WOW !!!! that material look amazing!!!!! i’m sure someone has already tested this. What happens if you shoot that material with a gun? I wonder if the military has incorporated Kevlar into that material yet and check to see how bulletproof it can be maybe that’s the next level of body armor ballistic body armor that is lol ?

Fox vs Rockshox? I'm with Marzocchi. I have always ridden Marzocchi suspension and they are great

Fox is like the "Apple" of the suspension world for me. Their products are pretty and eye catching while putting out a good experience.... only at the top end. Their mid and low tier offerings are confusing and forgotten. Rockshox is a brand that doesn't crush you with price to get a great product. The Fox "rhythm" forks are spec'd on many bikes and have ZERO upgrade path. in fact FOX changes the thread pattern on the fork crown so you cant use the upgrades (GRIP 2) like you could on a regular fox fork. Rockshox are putting out upgrade kits for most of their line up and are even advertising that you don't need to buy a new fork to get the top level performance. Also, every fox shock I've ever tried feels spongy in lockout to me while the Rockshox shocks I replaced said fox shocks with feel much more firm, but that's personal preference

Back in 2006 when I started MTB all I wanted was Fox suspension on my Jamis Dakar XLT. I wouldn't be caught dead with rockshox but now a days I have exclusively rockshoxs and sram components. Funny how times change. Nothing wrong with Fox but I just love the my Lyric ultimate and stoked about my super deluxe coil ultimate shock that is "still in the mail."

Rockshox for sure, but only before they got bought by sram. For newer stuff I'd rather be looking out for Manitou

I recently replaced my pivot bearings and when I was putting it back together I put a spacer back on the wrong side of a bearing. Several rides later the bolt loosened and fell out. I had to buy a new bolt kit $50 and a factory bearing kit for the right spacer $90. I was gutted 😢

I know someone who measured his rear shock while it was still mounted in an all steel frame with all his kit strapped up, this wasn't helped by how light he is and how low the pressurein the shock was. There was enough mass to give him a measurement only about 10mm too short. Reduced the travel from 150mm to about 120mm and bottomed out so easily. Another mate spent a small fortune on headsets because he didn't know what he needed. He was less than impressed when it was pointed put that the size is on the bearing and all he had to do was look at it.

Hey Doddy, we know Hans has been with GT since 1987 (which is absolutely amazing!), but what about Ned Overend? Hasn't he been with Specialized since 1987 as well?

Next on #GMBNTech "are you a Nikon or Canon person"??? But, I am a ROCKSHOX person, the best Fox fork I had was the vanilla spring, had an air fork as well, when I moved to ROCKSHOX felt like any click mad a difference in the fork or shock. For me, the simple tuning and the feel of the shock/fork makes it easy to decide, I am sure that the new rear Fox shock is amazing, but how many of us would know how to tune it correctly? with the developing industry of shocks/forks, and all the progress, I guess for the regular buyer (not a racer of any kind), is to keep it simple, with a few simple tunening ,so we can enjoy riding the product instead of needing to deal with it on every ride (I know some people love it :)! ), and today (my point of view), ROCKSHOX just doing it easy for the rider...AND yes, they feel much BETTER!!!

I started on Marzocchi. Loved them. Now Fox is Marzocchi. So I’m a Fox rider

Fox would be the dream forks but the better value (still expensive) that rock shox has gives it the edge. Also kashima is such a big marketing ploy

Team Rockshox, I've owned forks from both brands but my Rockshox has consistently been easier to adjust, cheaper, easier to service, service parts are accessible and relatively cheap. In fact it is because of that accessibility that a lot of people I know purchase SR Suntor forks and place Rockshox decals on it, so yea, plenty of knock-offs, I've yet to see them pull of one for Fox.

Taking the opportinity as we speak about suspension. Whats are the benefits and disadvantsge to have rear damper upside down ?

i was pushing my brake piston back than brake fluid spilled? any idea what i could have messed up? i think i should have loosen the top screw on the lever

Rockshox is more plush feeling and fox is more supportive.

Adjusting the air valve for 120mm but set at 100mm. Blew out the seal.

I've got a theory that frames and forks would be better with IS mounts, that way iif you do mess up and cross thread or whatever you only need to replace a £10 IS-PM adapter rather than the fork lowers or frame!

I think it depends on the price range. For their cheap forks Fox. Even the cheap ones feel plush, while cheap Rockshox forks are garbage. For mid to upper range Rockshox. Decent price, easy to service and almost as nice as absolute top forks from either. Money no object, Fox again.

Never take your wife to the bike shop!! I took mine on a ride, and she loved riding so much she asked to buy one. She asked the price, and he told her, 10. She said, I can afford $1000, and he snickered, then told her, $10000. It was a Santa Cruz Megatower XX1(I'm firmly planted in the Giant Trance GX market). She now looks my bike over weekly before asking for shopping money.

#askgmbntech Doddy, will you share some insight on why manufacturers always warn of sun exposure to carbon bike frames? Is there really anything to worry about in general use, sitting outside on the rack while taking breaks, etc. or is this just a warning not to leave in elements 24/7?

My bike fell off the towbar mounted bike carrier while going down the highway. FML

Hey Doddy, I am looking at upgrading my brakes and the Shimano slx 2 piston are about the same price as deore 4 piston. Not sure which way to go.. I have a 2019 Kona Blast and I weigh about 240lbs. Is there a difference and does going up in brand worth going 2 piston over 4?

Rockshox all the way. Cheaper price, you can upgrade older forks with newer dampeners and air springs, very user friendly to service with easy to follow videos and instructions.