I Need an Electrical Accumulator, Not an oil accumulator !!! ! !!!

Yeah, the new Mountune era of engineers that are useless (The old boys that I knew from the WRC era would never run this crap), like Lotus back in the elise s2 years and Mclaren when it was starting with the mp412c an P1, they couldn't design their own engine (like lotus) so had to recycle a 30yo indycar era engine design from RICARDO engineering XD still running port injection in the era of Direct Injection! XD God its so funny!! So are you still grinding off the shot peened finish on connecting rods to "balance" them? XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD FFS you youtube princesses are hilarious.

@@ValladolidArde this setup was used due to the BTCC rule book. It will be easy for you to find more information on that outside of KZfaq. Not a bad rant though although there is room for improvement. 4/10, needs more facts and/or dragons 😅 - Taz.

After some google search it's such a novice install. Almost as easy as installing a spark plug. If you're not running an oil cooler its literally one line off an oil sandwich block.

Ztuned even if you are Just run a one way valve and a t and boom

Spoken like an electrician who is a car enthusiast as well

Hydraulic capacitor.

agreed- this is what i like most about it- i want to pair this w/ a block heater to eliminate wear altogether on 'cold' starts

Where’s the vr videos at

@@Nickrpm Hahaha I'm trying to get them edited mate!😏

You can tell the ECU you want a certain amount of time before it shuts engine off, ie, below 20psi for over a second, or 0psi instantly etc

^pilot or aviation engineer, or hobby pilot.

Im pretty sure this was after the 32 had piston failure. Not oil related. check it out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ralooNh3u6eydGw.html

twistymcslide2 canton one in GT-R has thin end plates. Thinner than a clamp, so you have no choice but to clamp tube. It’s not tight enough to effect it Moroso one in JET200 has thicker ends so can do it that way.

Many cars do. Some Mercedes tear the o ring sealing the pickup

Best Lee Sin NA solved our time attack cars oil surge problems 🤷‍♂️

@@MotiveVideo if it works, don't fix it until it breaks haha. I have a secondary oil pump that is timing chain driven and the clutch for the gear is oil pressure driven. I'll get a little lag if the oil pressure drops, but it's bullet proof with the Goliath of a timing chain and gear setup on there. Had to make a larger timing chain cover. On my RB's I just use dry sump with a G-force gate so the oil pump is never starved.

Jack Campbell not yet but it doesn’t need one yet as no oil surge problems.....yet

Open to prime then close. Start engine. Then open it as we pull out of pit garage. Crew chief points at accumulator and i point at bonnet pins and we both thumbs up as last check before driving out.

Why not just leave it on the whole time?

Accumulators work instantly. They are a bandaid in some cases but a very good one.

Main issue with the RB engines are the oil drain passageways from the head to the sump are underdimensioned, badly positioned or too few. Or some kind of combination of all of those. Essentially, the oil does not drain fast enough back down into the sump. Exposing the pickup tube to air and then failure due to loss of oil pressure. The accumulator reacts instantly(continiously) Just think of it like if someone would stand next to the engine holding a big ass syringe filled with oil and with a hose connected to the oil gallery on the engine. All of the time when the engine is running, this person is applying pressure to the plunger. In that way if the oil pressure in the engine would drop, the plunger and oil would start to go in instantly. But even if you have an accumulator installed you can still experience oil starvation. 1. If you have to little oil in the system as a whole. (For instance if you forget to shut the accumulator valve before shutting down the engine) If you then measure your oil level, it would not be correct. And when you then start up the engine again, the accumulator gets filled again and the oil level inside the sump will drop down. 2. Wrong size accumulator/ wrongly adjusted precharge. Even with the accumulator functioning as intended it will not make the oil drain faster into the sump. 🤷🏼‍♂️ How did he come to the conclusion that he still has starvation issues?

Peterowsky that’s not exactly how it works, it close What’s the drawback?

Yes you need more oil.

I asked my engine builder who has an evo 6 and has been in multiple WTAC events, he is not a fan. They do overfill the sump and when the sump is overfilled you have more potential for blow by. I was about to buy a dry sump setup and then I saw this video so I asked my builder and he advised me to spend the extra money for true security of engine longevity.

Your right about accumulators, they are just a band-aid for a poorly sorted oiling system.

These work amazing when properly setup. Video has some blatant wrong info about it. I road race these because we are not allowed drysumps, and they make motors live 5x longer or more. Data log your oil pressure at a cam passage and you will be amazed how poor oiling does on a road course. You have to understand how to deal with dynamic oil level, they DO NOT create a higher oil level in your pan when racing when done right.

@@kwasg3 so, get a dry sump so you don't have to deal with all that.

@@alexstromberg7696 did you read his comment? He stated he cannot run a dry sump as he is not allowed by his road race rules.

yes

@@danieldelabarra2121 yeh

No, 2js are bulletproof dont even worry about an oil pressure gauge just send it.

As he said, in case of an oil pump failure this will save you a lot of dollars. I'm not intimately familiar with the pick up system on the 2js, so you'll have to ask people who track race them (as opposed to drag race them) how they handle prolonged sideways G forces, if that is applicable to what you want to do.

It does it automatically. Almost like a dampener.

No

@@SpenserRoger it keeps oil in it doesnt it with compressed air I didn't say exactly like

Sure, one flying rod at a time.

Its instant.

@@MotiveVideo thanks for the response. I found out that this thing stabilizes the oil system at the value you set. Initially I was thinking it waited for a dip in pressure then emptied its contents

@@frederickcook87 how to you set the psi value ?

@@daskamu on the gauge

@@zyoungson215 if my pump goes it would buy my engine enough time.

Sorry just finished watching te video, didnt think of ecu shutting down

Patty one overnighted from Japan adds atleast 20hp domestic one only 10hp

nowadays since theyre so rare a 2 stroke engine is a rich mans dry sump

Why havent i got one in my car? The accumulator is worth more than the engine

Thought a surge tank was for fuel.

no- a surge tank is for fuel.

What

@@SpenserRoger Most gasoline powered engines do not run at the perfect ignition timing due to knock or pinging. Higher octane fuel helps to reduce pinging and knocking but it is costly, especially buying racing fuel. My prototype allowed for better optimization of the ICE. Higher MPG and better horsepower are A result of that optimization. Engines built with my prototype included from the beginning could be even further optimized.

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It for race cars and drag cars not everyday drivers

chebly well can’t be that broke if you own a car

An engine failure can be pretty much anything, not just oil related.

If you'd have followed the series, you'd know the engine failed because an aftermarket piston broke

Yeah just sounded ironic is all,

Hahaha I thought the same thing 😂

Sam taylor bearings were still intact 🤷‍♂️😁

I prefer GDR over here in straya

#straya

#bogan

Be surprised lol

Not all engines have aftermarket baffles and big sumps available so this is a good otion. not everyone can afford dry sump with unlimited budget. plus, as we said in video, NASCAR and Sprint cars use them. Go tell them to do things properly :)

@@MotiveVideo arr nascar have drysump setups,what iam saying if u have a circuit car or drag car and you know your gonna get oil surge you design a sump/pickup system where you dont get that issue it only takes a second to drop oil pressure and it's all ova,why use a bandaid/accumulator to do this job,when u can go drysump and never have a issue,do u really think a driver doin 200kph is say oh we dropped oil pressure let's just turn on the accumulator to save the engine??? Not a great way,and yes you can get an aux ch on the haltech to turn it on if pressure drops,but I say get rid of oil surge vs you saying wait for surge the turn ur lever...

Well blinker fluid is stored in residual dual resistance cap pods these days...so just replace the pod and your good to go and no more storage tanks like the old days.

How would an oil cooler maintain oil pressure? It's a little bit of extra oil in the system but not pressurized.

@@NotnaRed actually it would be pressurized from the pump and would prevent a little starvation depending on how big the oil cooler is. Although it isn't pressurized by air it is condensed by the cooling effect and more oil can pass through the system. And it wouldn't be something that is computer controlled or switch controlled. But I can see the benefit of an air pressurized accumulator and maybe a hybrid system with a cooler.

no. a surge tank is a surge tank. this is an accumulator

So how does this differ? Both essentially do the same job & both are similar in operation. For example I have a bosch 044 hooked up to a 2L tank, now granted its not piston/pneumatically operated and I'm not pushing oil, but the principal is the same, its used to keep a steady o/p or in my case f/p when under load or fanging around corners