New KTM 1390 & 1490 Super Adventure, Rally & SMT Spied!

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@otlndsh 28 күн бұрын

Can't wait for the KTM 5990. It will cost the better part of the annual military budget of a small developing country, and it will weigh slightly less than Godzilla.

@hollydillion1315 28 күн бұрын

Too bad the 5990's features will be locked behind a paywall.

@beejsmusic 28 күн бұрын

😆😆😆😆😆

@aurorajones8481 28 күн бұрын

Miltary budget would be the Multistrada RS at 45K USD. Ill stick with my V4S and stick to telling ppl to KISS MY S!

@Captndarty 28 күн бұрын

Real men need only apply

@lukefish7562 28 күн бұрын

😆

@salib3k 28 күн бұрын

waiting for a 1890 in a couple years lol

@jeffshootsstuff 28 күн бұрын

Yeh, the 1290 will be the middleweight and the 990 will be their entry level bike.

@davidkendall1614 27 күн бұрын

Wait for the 2000 “Millennium”. Getting way beyond ridiculous. Especially for an “adventure” bike with off-road pretensions. We already passed the threshold of adequate power for this class of bike. Rather they focus on weight now instead of displacement.

@jhefss4447 25 күн бұрын

Pra andar em um país que não permite velocidade mais de 80 km 😅😅😅😅

@Bikesbikesbikes500 27 күн бұрын

An adventure bike needs " winglets" like a fish needs a toaster

@christianmouraux7269 27 күн бұрын

This new head light will be a pain in the a... to clean up all sort of flies smashed in all those tiny angular spots.

@Driftuner 28 күн бұрын

Wish they would invest in quality and reliability instead of yet bigger engines

@astrofeeder777 28 күн бұрын

ktm is quite reliable if you dont get the indian models. their issue is component selection and fit and finish.

@Driftuner 28 күн бұрын

@@astrofeeder777 not necessarily. Ive owned a 990, 1050 and now a 1290S (all Adv models) and they have all had their issues..

@straycat1115 28 күн бұрын

I couldn't agree any more!!

@TheLightningII 28 күн бұрын

@@astrofeeder777 The 790/890 owners with failed camshafts would probably disagree with you.

@Driftuner 28 күн бұрын

@@TheLightningII well, those are the indian models he is talking about

@donkeizluv 28 күн бұрын

bikes are getting so freaking big

@exothermal.sprocket 28 күн бұрын

There's always an Aprilia 457, CF Moto 450, Kawasaki 500.

@davidkendall1614 27 күн бұрын

For what benefit in this class? The useful hp threshold was crossed long ago. And I love hp! But using it in this class and keeping your license? Because it’s not fully useable off-road, but you have to deal with the weight.

@donkeizluv 27 күн бұрын

@@davidkendall1614 to impress people and to boast about numbers of course

@exothermal.sprocket 27 күн бұрын

Well....if you're a Chris Birch, you can sometimes use it off-road.

@mephistovonfaust 28 күн бұрын

I ride a 1050 Adventure and let me tell you, I love that bike to bits. I rode on the new 1300 GS and I'd take my 1050 over it any time of the day. I'll most likely skip the upgrade to the 1390 though. It's just too expensive for my current situation but in a few years, when the 1490 or 1590 SA hits the market I'll be there for it.

@DukeOfTwist 28 күн бұрын

Waiting to see if Aprilia does a V4 Caponord

@kylekyle8131 28 күн бұрын

They have to, I am not giving them an option😂

@DukeOfTwist 27 күн бұрын

@@kylekyle8131 We got 5 Tuono's 2 are V4's so know how good a V4 Caponord would be.

@Gofr5 28 күн бұрын

Bought a new 1290 SAS that had some great end of year deals last fall and have to say I'm happy that I did. I was already expecting a 1390 SAS to be in the works, but having already seen the 1390 Super Duke, I didn't want to risk getting stuck with an even uglier headlight. Seeing it now in the spy shots it's not as bad as the Super Duke with its visor-like headlight, but I still prefer the 1290's headlights more. Plus, with the kind of deal I got the 1290 for, I'd be waiting another 2-3 years to get the same sort of thing for the new 1390. All-in-all, looks like some nice updates on the way, but I'm in it for the long haul with my still fairly new 1290 SAS. As for the SMT variant, I like it. I almost never offroad, so having the 17 inch front wheel would be nice, but I haven't found the 19 inch wheel to be that much of a drag on the street anyway. Won't be enough to sway me for it, but hey who knows what the future will bring in 5 or 10 years?

@churchofbrap876 28 күн бұрын

Yo KTM instead of new bigger models every year, lets invest in quality control

@tazmiller7490 28 күн бұрын

That rally model has to be the goofiest looking thing KTM has ever created and that’s speaks for a real achievement

@hugodacosta 27 күн бұрын

Consumers want mid range trail bikes (CF 450 MT is a great example), and the big manufacturers releasing 1300 cc,1390cc...

@pandora1360 28 күн бұрын

How about a reliability update or even better a reliability update for all the crap 790/890 1290 bikes KTM have sold for the last 6 years which the owners deserve to have fixed Including my 1290 adv S thats left me stranded at the side of the road 7x in the 6 years I have owned it.

@tobanhoffmann8347 15 күн бұрын

there's always a klr

@skyworks1621 28 күн бұрын

I cant wait, I had the 2022 SAS 1290 and cant wait for the new one to come.

@TheLightningII 28 күн бұрын

It may not be a bigger engine but a different state of tune. The Svartpilen 801 prototypes had been spied with the monitoring equipment onboard even though the engine is mechanically identical to the 790 Duke.

@paulsteeghs 23 күн бұрын

I've had my 1290 SAS for almost 5 years now, and I love it. I will definitely be on the lookout for that 1390, and will give that SMT version a try as well before deciding.

@rkilgannon 20 күн бұрын

Same. But i will just buy the SMT for sure

@avalanx 28 күн бұрын

Checking in from South Africa, there is pretty hardcore adventure community here. Many KTM 1190s and 1290s with well over 60 000kms ripping about. I personally owned an 1190 without a hint of trouble over 32 000kms. The big v twins are reliable, the 790 and 890 allegedly not, but the rumour mill has created a ridiculously inaccurate perception of KTM reliability.

@Calbertone 28 күн бұрын

My 1090 R was a solid high performance bike that didn’t need much mods besides air filter and a lighter exhaust. My 890 R is untrustworthy Chinese bike with many parts with a limited lifespan.

@Mike-sBike 27 күн бұрын

Good info, but china built against the Austrian regulations I think? ( sorry for my English)

@janegilsommer8849 27 күн бұрын

@@Calbertone I have the 1090 S Adventure 2017 model with 87000 km with no problems at all love the bike

@redrider440ex 26 күн бұрын

Alberta, Canada here and my 2016 1290 superadventureT has been flawless through 49,000kms so far.

@robertbarty2852 16 күн бұрын

Have 95,000 km on my 2014 1190 R.

@avalanchas336 28 күн бұрын

Wow KTM is going full circle on the headlights, they will make my old R1200ST look modern again if they continue like this

@davidkendall1614 27 күн бұрын

“Winglets” on an ADVENTURE tourer with pannier racks? What brain trust came up with THAT? That must have been a contributed idea from the parts department trying to boost sales of replacements when the winglets get smashed off. Or maybe it’s not a downforce benefit (not doing 200 mph on THIS after all), they have a real problem with HEAT and are attempting air deflection? Either way, fail.

@creedm3040 28 күн бұрын

Awesome video! I like the S model. The headlight is very cool. It's not a Wildebeest anymore. The designer that came up with this deserves a hefty raise. Best!

@lawrencemanhart2157 8 күн бұрын

Lol wildebeest is very accurate.

@aao331 28 күн бұрын

Users:The superadventure has too much power, its hard to control and it has reliability issues! KTM: More power.

@countbrapcula-espana 26 күн бұрын

Hard to control ... That is a skill issue

@lawrencemanhart2157 8 күн бұрын

My 1290 SAS isn't hard to control. Blast to ride though.

@andreibuzete4296 9 күн бұрын

The new 1390 SAS has a much nicer appearance compared to the previous model.Tks for the video.

@GIGABACHI 28 күн бұрын

I'm ALL IN for the SM-T 13XX/14XX version. Have no use or desire to go off-road. HOWEVER, I think the Rally looks C00L AF. Reminds me when Dakar had balls.✊😎

@sercio994 27 күн бұрын

Reminds you when Dakar had balls, but want a bike that is full of assists... lol

@lukefish7562 28 күн бұрын

Always great stuff Bob! 🙏🏽 Cheers 🏍️💨

@motobob 28 күн бұрын

Appreciate the support Luke! 🍻

@kratozsweden5593 28 күн бұрын

I've got an SA-T that I really like. But I think I need a new 1390 now. 😍

@lukefish7562 28 күн бұрын

Of course you do. 😁

@jeffshootsstuff 28 күн бұрын

New headlight looks way better to me. Kind of like a shogun/robot warrior versus a ghost wraith. I'd consider owning the new one.

@PeanutButter6665 28 күн бұрын

For me personally if SMT gonna happen in this Generation I would prefer 990 SMT sounds more reasonable then 1390. I Mean if 990 engine that have enough power, less weight and price. Price around 13-14k (might be) great position more then 1390. Yep just my opinion.

@kugangles9860 28 күн бұрын

Can't wait to try a 17 inch front Super Adventure. Looks like it's going after the Ducati V4 Pikes Peak.

@exothermal.sprocket 28 күн бұрын

If you don't plan to hit up a dirt road any more often than you would via a standard 17-inch wheel motorcycle, the SM-T seems like a more comfy place to be, without sacrificing much agility over a 17-inch wheel naked sports bike. Anyway. I hope the burlier engine options come in a new sports-touring SDGT flavor. Not that it needed more power.

@yorkchris10 28 күн бұрын

A Corvette engineer explained increase displacement as a way to lighten the engine by replacing cast iron with aluminum piston. Maybe more terrain tamers to keep down shock loads.

@exothermal.sprocket 28 күн бұрын

When was the last time cast iron pistons were used?

@tubejorrit 28 күн бұрын

SMT with around 190hp will be my choice. Or a 990 SMT with the paralel engine but with shift-cam please.

@Ukmongoose3 25 күн бұрын

Waheeeey, thats the one for me!

@Calbertone 28 күн бұрын

The rally is likely a 990 cc

@akiuliano 28 күн бұрын

These bikes are insane. I’m still having an issue getting past the headlight.

@VizziMoto 27 күн бұрын

390 Adventure update needs to happen soon!

@garethmayfield4014 25 күн бұрын

SMT looks amazing. where do I sign up!

@NaMinesClarence 28 күн бұрын

If they are going to monitor the engine they are going to do it on an engine dyno as it is much more repeatable and contained in the event of a failure. If they are collecting strain or vibration on the chassis and its components they would collect the data as they are in the photos. Same goes if they were collecting data with thermocouples.

@dean-does-stuff-81 28 күн бұрын

A big smt would go nicely with my 890 smt ❤

@dw1168 26 күн бұрын

I love the 1290s and really all of these 1390s, but I know I'm not the only one that would love all these model variations in a 590 or 690 size, imagine the original 790 Adventure but in a slightly smaller S model and SMT, I would 10 of those!! Haha

@interstellarv0id 17 күн бұрын

SMT is crazy, waiting for it❤

@dantton1987 27 күн бұрын

Does the 1390 SMT mean that the SDGT is no more? I really don't see a point of having a GT naked and superbike on stilts at the same time. Yeah there is the GSXS GT and GSXS X, but still

@stevek4449 14 күн бұрын

From the comments, it does not seem the 1290 SAS is all that reliable? In the US their warranty only covers the crank case, frame, and swing arm but nothing else. Is it worth the risk to buy?

@themok3rify 27 күн бұрын

1390 SMT, as a current 890 SMT owner im intrigued 😮

@Ukmongoose3 25 күн бұрын

Yes me too. There are one off builds that are similar and one in particular got me going, so really keen to see this if it becomes real.

@jasgsxr2726 28 күн бұрын

Good fun, I think the new 990 face in orange should be nick named the Orangutang😁I like the 890 SMT, but as an MT900 SMT🙂boom yeah

@MrSimonfoz 28 күн бұрын

Looks like a bastard to clean lol😂

@rayl5097 27 күн бұрын

excited，I have got a v4pp and still feel v2pp would be more interesting，this seems like fill the empty slot with all the new tech on a new bike 1490

@94balic 28 күн бұрын

Last one looks more like SuperDuke GT then SMT. Looks too bulky and huge for SMT.

@JW-cq4ez 27 күн бұрын

Finally, a better-looking headlight. Now, they just need to ditch the orange theme and do all black editions for example 👍✅️

@Villani_AV 28 күн бұрын

Winglets can be for stability too

@exothermal.sprocket 28 күн бұрын

For when you're storm-chasing tornadoes or riding the coast when a hurricane is blowing in.

@urbanstrencan 28 күн бұрын

Another great video Rob, KTM and the whole grup is really nailing it lately 😊😊❤❤ keep up with great work

@_hold_the_line_ 27 күн бұрын

Hope they fixed the steering wobble that some of the 1290 SAR owners reported.

@JinanNLipdo 28 күн бұрын

I think what you called the SMT might be the SuperDuke GT

@hyperthunk 28 күн бұрын

I think that too. I am looking forward to seeing better styling on the new GT, because the old version is one of the few bikes which is too ugly to consider owning, which is a shame as according to some of my friends who own one, it is a cracking good bike to ride.

@exothermal.sprocket 28 күн бұрын

1350cc Vtwin update to the GT, please.

@Ukmongoose3 25 күн бұрын

@@hyperthunkI agree! If it was a real stunner, I would own one.

@fun2rideadventure 24 күн бұрын

No 990 Adventure pictures yet?

@tancakar8987 27 күн бұрын

Ktm is behind with the road focus STM. BMW have a good one Ducati have a good one, but ktm still didnt follow. Would really consider to change my current 1290 Adventure with SMT 1390, Its best of all worlds fast but comfortable intimidating but easy to ride. Hoping they wont come out with ridiculus price, some times they thing they are ducati, but they are not.

@OleKristianBrennum 16 күн бұрын

Hope for a new 1390/1490 SAT

@shaneryan9076 28 күн бұрын

good lord a 1490 v twin.. that'll be a monster

@exothermal.sprocket 28 күн бұрын

The are out-Ducati'ing the Ducati V-twin ethos.

@shaneryan9076 28 күн бұрын

@@exothermal.sprocket probably be throwing rear tyres at that

@exothermal.sprocket 28 күн бұрын

@@shaneryan9076 Wild torque results in crying rubber.

@UncleWally3 28 күн бұрын

What’s the good of a bike unless it stops me quicker than my first date and travels faster than the speed of light?

@heinekensese_ 26 күн бұрын

at 9:48 why do they keep removing rear brake light and integrating it to the signal light?

@burddog0792 26 күн бұрын

Most likely cost.

@kylekyle8131 28 күн бұрын

Definitely put my money on the 1390 SMT!!

@helgejohan3604 26 күн бұрын

Smt 890 perfect motor and weight✊🔥 1390 too heavy and big😩

@stephenrandall5859 27 күн бұрын

It has to be the SMT for the 17 inch front end and better brakes as the s with 19 inch and the off road brakes is useless half way model.

@cocky_potato 28 күн бұрын

I love, LOVE KTM... but good lord, the bikes look huge 😅 and I'm positive all we be quite expensive, no doubt. Quite curious to see the new SMT...

@tubejorrit 28 күн бұрын

I got the current 1290 SAS, it looks huge but once on the road it just feel like my old 950 SMR.

@janisvinters8797 23 күн бұрын

WindLet madness.. really madness. Not working on low speeds, will be first to hit when pun on side.. But can be understand from marcetolog and engineers - on high speeds can help with front uplift problem what usually are solved by putting more weight to front (like on BMW F900GS)...

@AldredsquashUk 27 күн бұрын

Which one will be the most reliable?

@sasbravo6 28 күн бұрын

Replacing the 1290 Super Adventure R with the brand new 1390 Super Rally would be a banger

@wanderlpnw 27 күн бұрын

I'm glad I got an R. Not crazy about the rally. A little too extreme looking for me.

@Whatreally123 28 күн бұрын

waiting for the 2190 before buying. 1390 is just not enough.

@exothermal.sprocket 28 күн бұрын

Maybe just chop a cylinder off the Rocket 3 engine for a 1638cc twin.

@hardworkingswede 27 күн бұрын

Where is my Husqvarna 1401 🤣

@arunveera6266 14 күн бұрын

😅😅

@waltermiller249 25 күн бұрын

Waiting for the new GT to replace my old one. Hope it's a 1490

@CraigHartley-nh4nr 7 күн бұрын

It would have to be the 1390 Rally for me.

@user-wi4gn4bv3j 27 күн бұрын

Where is the GT ?

@1136tscc 27 күн бұрын

I hope it comes in orange

@pemphobanda4639 27 күн бұрын

Please make the exhaust smaller this time.

@khairirais 24 күн бұрын

5 years later, "New spy shots of KTM 10990 super adventure....."

@darrylcoomer1539 28 күн бұрын

1290 SMT...take my money sir...PLEEAASSEEE!

@exothermal.sprocket 28 күн бұрын

KTM will oblige. And when the doo-dads shut off after 1000 miles, KTM will oblique taking more of your money.

@SAB-iq1kp 14 күн бұрын

NO THANK YOU! I'm waiting for the 2790cc!!!!!

@janvanhaas2826 26 күн бұрын

Wish they redesign the ugly front of the 890 Adventure R

@_Hiks5 27 күн бұрын

Headlights are horrendous 😬

@homeandbike 22 күн бұрын

1290 forever

@NicoVaranelli 23 күн бұрын

I'm waiting for 2.0 tdi 😂

@cruze86 28 күн бұрын

1490 twin 😮 wtf

@exothermal.sprocket 28 күн бұрын

Everyone forget about the 1,679cc V4 Yamaha had? The 2,053cc V-twin Kawasaki had?

@bunni2229 25 күн бұрын

Sharper bodywork✅️ Perfekt frontdesign✅️ Big bike with tech overload✅️ Price ❌️❌️❌️

@chrismcallister6546 27 күн бұрын

i'll wait for the 1590 or the 2990 lol

@zgordoignite 28 күн бұрын

After owning two 1290's...Would love to throw a leg over a 1490 SMT... Especially if it's tad bigger for two up.

@carlossheppard1745 24 күн бұрын

Just hope the cams aren’t made in China CFMoto that are constantly failing on their 790/890 bikes.

@aibePRO 20 күн бұрын

I rather prefer the SAS from 2020: bigger and comfortable

@joseaguirre7517 18 күн бұрын

Anyway it's an outstanding bike!

@signore-solomonare1818 28 күн бұрын

Come here for the video quality and quality of videos only

@DenizDivine 28 күн бұрын

i'd love to see every of these concepts from husqvarna! ktm looks make me sick

@leonrawls892 25 күн бұрын

I hate KTM headlights! And updates now are bigger motors and more electronics. I'll just keep my 2013 990 SMT.

@scotthartley5386 15 күн бұрын

Makes me like my 2013 990 smt even more now

@johnDukemaster 28 күн бұрын

Size, power, price and weight is too much. I stick to my lovely 790 Duke! Thank you mr Bob!

@BN1960 28 күн бұрын

Problem is, that tourer is going to be £25k once specced up to something desirable

@GaryJohnWalker1 28 күн бұрын

The SMT might make the SD GT unnecessary/pointless. But winglets - no. No, no, no

@hyperthunk 28 күн бұрын

I think what they're calling the SMT might actually be the GT.

@corujariousa 28 күн бұрын

Winglets on consumer motorcycles is an idiotic gizmo that should stop.

@motobob 28 күн бұрын

I enjoyed the F9 video with great depth, but the conclusion that it's to sell homologated superbikes doesn't check out with bikes like this and the M1000XR. Here it's just a silly vanity thing 👎

@corujariousa 28 күн бұрын

@@motobob Yes, I see it adds to the bragging of those who like to say they have the fastest bikes we can buy, while they never invest in acquiring the need skills to take the most of them nor ever go to tracks. Vanity, as you so well stated. Cheers.

@exothermal.sprocket 28 күн бұрын

Remove them, throw them on the dusty back shelf of your garage, and move on.

@fauthority87 20 күн бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@2ride_along 26 күн бұрын

Mean While real rally bikes have 600cc or Less, and are lightweight.

@pursuitofhappiness.. 28 күн бұрын

Prices of petrol going up so engine cc too, conspiracy 😅

@trroland1248 28 күн бұрын

KTM needs to chill TF out! A litre-and-half “adventure” bike? 😒

@lionelcook8522 27 күн бұрын

Bigger engines, more power with increasingly complex electronics, so people with excess money but limited skills can ride them to Starbucks. Meanwhile, real adventure riders just want lighter weight and reliability.

@marijnkramer6897 28 күн бұрын

1390/1490 SMT for me👌🏻 “winglets are optional”

@exothermal.sprocket 28 күн бұрын

How many paces past the license-termination zone does a person have to go to make appreciable down-force?

@mrflores7708 28 күн бұрын

Buy a ktm and see it superceded within 2yrs, or so, thereby seeing it depreciated over night. Plus spare parts will dry up sooner rather than later, that's if you can get any anyway. Simply changing a model name doesn't require them to make spares for it beyond 10yrs from homologation. As many here have said, ktm needs to work on reliability and a slow, purposeful evolution would be better than to make models exstinct every 2 yrs or so!