Nice!, I’m glad the video was helpful and you didn’t throw in the towel 💯💪🏾 keep going ❗️

Let me know how it works out for you Puppetmasterblaster!

It does a great job Jerry and it’s a simple setup…Always good hearing from you and have a good weekend 🤘🏾💪🏾

how often do I need to change the element

You’re welcome Fuzzy I appreciate you checking out the video and I’m glad I could help!

Thanks bro I appreciate that and appreciate you checking out the video!

Appreciate you checking it out Gareth!

Thanks James I appreciate you always checking out the videos!

Appreciate that suggestion and I’ll have to give it a try!

You’re welcome Jeffrey, I’m glad the video was helpful!

Thanks for checking it out Husky, you take care as well!

Nice NIGEL!…appreciate you checking out the video 💯

The motor guard setup is nice and sounds like it works well for you, I’m definitely happy with my setup!

@@UndergroundPaintKing for sure 👌

I watched your video and saw your setup which is nice!

@@UndergroundPaintKing thank you sir, horrible video tho, cheap cell phone camera, maybe Ill upgrade soon

@@yeayeasautoadventures1161 it’s all good, gotta start somewhere!

@@yeayeasautoadventures KZfaq can be rough

Thanks for that tip Alan I appreciate you!

Not so sure leaving the filter with fluid in it causes the coating to go bad. If the coating goes bad when the filter has water in it you get the corrosion..My experience is converting the compressed air filters to filter fuel ATF and motor oil. Why the coating sometimes fails I dont know. Why the coating can last 200.000 miles in gasoline on the Camry and submerged in oil and ATF on the Camry with no coating problems and I get a picture and complaint from an internet customer. Also the coating fails on the Farmall tractor gasoline.very soon. For awhile I was removing the coating with engine cleaner. Some customers were removing the coating with carb cleaner. It was easier to use a different filter company. When I removed the coating I wondered how the slick surface could hold the coating. You painters would be doing something to the surface to hold the coating.. I know some users are re coating the filters. Some are professional powder coaters. Ive read posts. They prepare the surface.To do it right would probably be expensive.

It seems to me the water or fuel in the filter is looking for a weak place in the coating. No problem for fuel. Water is bad news. Only happened once with gasoline. I tossed it in engine cleaner and removed the rest of the coating. A customer had a problem with transmission fluid. He took care of it himself.

I use a filter on my spray gun as well for extra insurance, you can always try it without and see what type of results you’ll get over time to get a good idea if the filter at the gun is needed or not

You can use this same filter but i only use a filter on my spray gun when i use my small compressor setup

Yes you can spray sealer over prepped base coat without primer

@@UndergroundPaintKing the question is can you spray base over sealer

Thanks Steady Eddie, that’s a great tip and I appreciate you sharing the information 💯💪🏾

I ran a M 60 for about 200.000 miles on the Camry gasoline. The coating is still in great shape. The coating in the Tractor gasoliine turned loose from the aluminum in a short time.. The origional Motor Guard was a lube oil filter. All metal with no coating. Ran one of the origional compressed air filters for many years on a Case tractor. lube oil. The origional compressed air filter had a light color.. After years you could see some aluminum showing thru. At one time Motor Guard was the best oil filter you could buy. I have a couple over 50 years old. All I have now is the Jackmaster Classic Motor Guards and Gulf Coasts Converted a flat head Ford canister filter to use a 4 1/2 inch roll of Scott 1000 toilet paper. They were all designed to use toilet paper. I use Great Value 1000 from Walmart. Some use Scott 1000. I dont drain oil. When I was converting the compressed air filters to lube oil and selling them I sometimes got complaimts of the coatings failing.. Asked Motor Guard for uncoated filters. That was the last straw. Removing the coating and using toilet paper instead of their elements. I got tired of tossing the filters in my drum of engine cleaner. Too messy.

When I was selling them if I sold 50 and the coating failed on one of them I was not happy. If the coating fails I want it to fail on my stuff. Also the problem with using Scott 1000 is you have to unroll too much paper. The last Great Value 1000 I got from Walmart was the same diameter as the Motor Guard element. It changes. If the paper pinches in the gasket its probably too big.. The important seal is at the bottom and around the core at the bottom. Doesnt hurt to have a few around with glue on the last sheet.Motor Guard uses tape.

The water is looking for a weak place in the coating so it can attack the aluminum. It cant find a weak place in the coating if you dont leave a wet element in it. With petroleum products the aluminum wont be attacked but the coating sometimes loses its grip on the aluminum. Why I wish I knew.

You don’t have to use a filter, this is just one of the options that I use but I normally keep my tanks drained and a filter on my spray gun and I’m good Israel!

You want your air regulator after your filter

This one in this video will work for a small compressor Benson

I’ll take a look into Harlo

Thanks for that information Ralph I appreciate you 💯🙏🏽

You are welcome. The name Motor Guard came when all they had was lube oil filters.

Out here on the west coast we had the Franz filter for autos that used a roll of toilet paper as a filter cartridge. My dad put one on a brand new ‘72 F-100 that he drove for 15 years. It probably had over 200K on it when he sold it.

I started with a Frantz in 1963. The Motor Guard started in San Jose. California. The lube oil Motor Guard was all metal with 1/8 pipe ports and no coating. Just put a used M30 on the tractor hydraulic system. I had installed metal parts in it. Sometimes the coating fails. On this one the inside coating is still good. It is starting to get a blister on the outside. Ran a M 60 on the Camry gasoline for several years. The coating looks new inside.. The coating. Failed on a M 60 on the Farmall gasoline. Never had a problem with motor oil. Yes they were designed to use toilet paper. One guy on KZfaq said the reason they got the nick name toilet paper filters is people started using toilet paper in them instead of the proper Motor Guard elements.

I worked in the paint department at Ford. My 76 F250 still has a decent paint job except for the drivers door. It has no paint. Im wondering if they were short a painted door on the assembly line and painted one without acidizing it. It takes time for the parts to get the oil removed and acidized then go thru the dryer. Im guessing it might have still had oil on it.

Appreciate you Richar💯

Thanks for the great information!

Didnt realize how much stuff they have now. Saw one the same color as the origional. Some large aircraft makers are using Motor Guards. I think I remember dentists were buying them. I have them on every engine and transmission I have except a few that have Gulf Coast juniors the Australian Jackmaster Classic and the flat head Ford comversion.only had one where the coating failed. The gasoline didn't break down the coating but it made the coating turn loose of the aluminum. I normally dont drain oil. I change the toilet paper and add a quart of oil. For oil I have to add a 1/16 inch orifice and Aircraft aluminum internal parts. Now days there excellent oil filters that you dont need to modify . You can probably find a Motor Guard lube oil filter. The Frantz is a terrible design as far as servicing but they will take toilet paper. I prefer the top loaders

It has worked fine, it’s a simple system to maintain

No it’s a 1/4 inch

One easy way is to create a cross draft

@@UndergroundPaintKing appreciate the info

@@DARKCHILD1313 you’re welcome!

At Ford in the 60s we had furnace filters on the walls with water going down thru them. Painters would push vasoline up into their noses. At the end of the shift the vasoline and paint would be dug out of the noses. Had a problem with thin paint on parts of the fenders and hoods and whiskers in the paint. Gabby had a beard and chewed tobacco. When he turned to spit he missed a stroke.

I haven’t had water in my filter, it’s mainly absorbed by the filter inside the unit

It allows you to regulate the clean dry air coming through the filter to the spray gun

Thank you for replying

@@israel9294 you’re welcome!

I just finished painting my first Toyota Corolla 2003. I used the R500 spray gun with a 27 gallon compressor. I got some orange peel so I ended up color sanding the entire car. When I started buffing with compound I burned through the paint. Any way to avoid orange peel so I won’t have to do all this extra work? …. Thank you

@@israel9294 it depends on how you set up your spray gun and the materials you’re spraying, along with your technique while spraying

I honestly don’t know the difference in them other than setup and features, so I’ll have to look into the other ones

Thanks for the reply if the m30 works for you I’ll prolly get that one🤙🏼

@@ShorelineCasta you’re welcome!

Pretty sure filter is the same, just the size of the fittings you can screw in are different (which affects flow).

@@r1learner178 appreciate that info!

Thanks for that information!

I have another system that I use in my shop

I haven’t changed mine yet to be honest

@@UndergroundPaintKing I got water in my line

@@Nutflame55 have you been using it a lot

kinda had it hook up since I got it. on my air tools

@@Nutflame55 I would drain the tank, change out the filter, then run clean air through your air hose until the water is gone

It was in my opinion

Do you think having the fittings on the top would be better or that the unit should be upside down?

@@UndergroundPaintKing I was just thinking that it would have less chance to push water if it was the other way.

@@jonyovanno4145 that’s true and I agree with you on that but this does pretty good on stopping water and moisture

@@UndergroundPaintKing and for cheap filter material a roll of tp works good.

@@jonyovanno4145 yeah you can’t beat that as long as you keep up with it

I haven’t had a issue yet using just this, I appreciate you checking out the video

Its the same old story . The more water is in the air the more often you need to change the Motor Guard. If your Motor Guard gets full of water you will be painting with a.water and paint mix.. If you live in New Orleans you might need a big water seperator upstream. At work I always tried to keep zero water from reaching the Motor Guard. We even filtered nitrogen. The big air compressor that supplied the plant had a Motor Guard M 30 cleaning the expensive oil. The Motor Guard was cleaning a mixture of oil and compressed air..It also had a big Micro Guard full flow filter that was there to catch anything big. The M 30 was there to get the small stuff and water. A lot of work for a little filter. Sent oil samples to the compressor company to be analized. It was under warranty. When I changed the big filter I made a mount for it and put it on the suction of the home made hydraulc system on the Farmall H. 1 1/2 inch ports The reason water didnt over load the M 30s was an air dryer as big as a refrigerator was there. Most were M 60s in the pipe systm

Works just fine for me, I appreciate you checking out the video

Toilet paper is just high quality cellulose The Motor Guard element is like coffee filter paper in a roll. Think of a stack of coffee filters 4 inches tall. Thats why they call them submicronic.filters.

Look into this filter Fam you might like it!

Bought a air powered vacuum pump at harbor freight to pull a vacuum on the Pontiac A/C. Had both small compressors hooked up to it and they couldnt keep up.. Had air pressure on a Nissan cylinder to hold the valves closed while I changed the valve seals. The phone rang. While I was talking the little compressor.couldnt keep up.The valves dropped into the cylinder. The big compressor that I didnt think i would need isnt wired in.

Thanks I appreciate you and it’s 240 and I haven’t tripped any breakers yet running it

@@UndergroundPaintKing awesome appreciate the reply brother thanks.

@@koolhandluke5646 you’re welcome!