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Mstislav (1203) - Part 2 | AoE2: DE Victors & Vanquished

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Ornlu the Wolf - Age of Empires 2

Ornlu the Wolf - Age of Empires 2

4 ай бұрын

Well, the Mongols happened
In this scenario, Mstislav controls the princedom of Smolensk, but realizes that the Rus need to unite to defeat the steppe nomads. You have to pacify the countryside and place your people within the major cities of the area, and then withstand the Mongol invasion.
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@timryan6536
@timryan6536 4 ай бұрын
All of my production buildings were destroyed by the Mongols, except for the lone monastery in the north, and my last few units died trying to lure the Mongols into my allies' castles. My only population left was uncontrollable villagers, so I effectively had 0 population, and only 1 building, that made slow, non-combative units. And I'm pretty sure the Mongols had heresy, anyway. I had to beat the scenario by making monks from my one surviving building, quietly converting pagans in the forest, then getting the crusaders on my side. This was just barely enough to finish off the horde, and also the funniest way I've ever beaten a scenario.
@ericcampbell503
@ericcampbell503 4 ай бұрын
Epic lmao
@scardy92
@scardy92 4 ай бұрын
I was in the same situation. I converted my allies' stables and rebuild my army
@EC-cm8sf
@EC-cm8sf 4 ай бұрын
I was left with a monastery with relics with and siege workshop. I waited and built 50 ballistas and won
@gebhard128
@gebhard128 4 ай бұрын
Won by the same way 11
@Hugh-mongis
@Hugh-mongis Ай бұрын
You could’ve ran into your allied bases switch your diplomacy to neutral and convert their military buildings, you can also convert markets which you don’t even have in your initial base that’s the way I won I was out of army units but plenty of resources and also had the monetary by the pagans safe
@philipwharton7444
@philipwharton7444 4 ай бұрын
The worst part of this scenario is that the only meaningful advantage gained from defeating the princes. Is that you get them off your back while do what really matters and collect the surrounding villages.
@mamacitasenorita1680
@mamacitasenorita1680 4 ай бұрын
Strange, my allies were way more active, and the Mongols were way less glitchy, they decimated Vladimir (yellow) base and almost destroyed Novgorod (green) before they slowly split up and wittled down.
@SIGNOR-G
@SIGNOR-G 4 ай бұрын
Luckily for me i managed to conquer all the cities just before the mongol invasion. Then they splitted and left their siege weapons unprotected making them much easier to deal. Only lost yellow.
@unuseranonyme
@unuseranonyme 2 ай бұрын
this depends on the difficulty, on hard the allies do nothing and the mongols are focus on your base (you have to lure them to your allies cities)
@nitnelavspetorials
@nitnelavspetorials Ай бұрын
@@unuseranonyme on standard they sent just 1 wave. Then decided to go AFK for the rest of the battle. I did cannon fodder. Basically, locked myself in the walls, made a few upgraded mangonels and placed priests and tanky units like knigths to be focused by enemies, while mangonels killed 600+ units (literally) with attack ground st ance.
@halbarad6924
@halbarad6924 4 ай бұрын
This was really fun, but still could use some bug fixes. Having your farmers killed by onagers is really frustrating.
@drmajalis1583
@drmajalis1583 4 ай бұрын
This campaign has awesome flavour with the constant fleeing Cumans and Mongol foreshadowing but I really wish the execution of the mechanics was better. It would be nice if they were more clear with what triggered imp, and that your allies and the Mongols wouldn't bug out But, such is the price of complex scenarios using the engine, i suppose
@inductivegrunt94
@inductivegrunt94 4 ай бұрын
I like the whole not needing to worry about eco, but waiting for tributes as an income is really not fun. And the Mongol timer really has me unnerved as someone who likes to take his time to prepare rather than have such a massive hoard thrusted upon me. A very cool scenario in concept, but not exactly well executed.
@SIGNOR-G
@SIGNOR-G 4 ай бұрын
Some scenarios of this dlc add timers when played on hard. A real shame.
@a_cleverfool
@a_cleverfool 4 ай бұрын
Definitely a toughie, but referencing your runthrough helped me make mine much smoother. I ended up pushing green and sniping red's castle form across the water. Then I pushed yellow, and let teal sit for awhile so that I could achieve other objectives and pick up military buildings. Like @jeolholtzman609 suggested down below, several tips worked out very well for me. 1. Capture food territories early on for tech research and kipchak production 2. Speaking of Kipchaks, hire a ton of these as able; they train fast, are cheap, and very combat efficient in the early going. 3. Later I got the option to betray the Cumans, I didn't do this because I had lots of Kipchaks and liked them. If you don't betray them Kotyan will join you later. 4. Hussars, halberdiers, and Heavy Cavalry Archers was my endgame composition. You really need all the military buildings you can get to maintain production. The unique techs you unlock makes these units very powerful.
@stefanandrejcik571
@stefanandrejcik571 4 ай бұрын
Another missions with great concept but poor execution, nevertheles I enjoyed it. Like for example you own vills that also take space but you cannot control them is so annoying. Then final battle with mongols is RNG as hell also the thing that your allies don't do shit is just BS would have been much cooler if before Final battle there would start spawning your and allies units, have big allied cuman army, but make it still that you loose battle at Kalka River and then you have to wear down the army and beat Mongols, cumans would resign since they basically either died or escaped and Rus cities would fight on Also this marker cringe is just another BS in 2 missions not having market makes missions way harder in annoying way and in this mission you have market that you cannot even use bruuuh
@JBarG22
@JBarG22 Ай бұрын
Having Cumans come in from the East, talking about this dangerous menace, and suddenly stop is quite horrific
@meowinturtle6207
@meowinturtle6207 4 ай бұрын
-Eco that you cant' control but still lose -Allies that only spam units until you capture them then become totally useless -RNG mongols that get glitchy -Text can get bugged and start repeating about the mongols coming -No explanation on how to reach imperial and it happens without the game telling you Yeah, once again the DLC proving that the devs didnt care and these scenarios are not polished. Like everyone is saying, cool concept, bad excecution
@stefanandrejcik571
@stefanandrejcik571 4 ай бұрын
Exactly I played original missions too and they are almost unchanged
@vicdansanch
@vicdansanch 4 ай бұрын
For real i just cheated at the end to win vs mongols if the scenarios were not helping i didnt care at the end
@vicdansanch
@vicdansanch 4 ай бұрын
Also capturing encampments should give you a trickle of gold insted of relics
@Hugh-mongis
@Hugh-mongis 5 күн бұрын
This scenario becomes from impossible to easy with a simple trick. Since your allies become inactive once the raid begins it’s best to take a few monks and spread them all out in every friendly base and switch you diplomacy to neutral since your monks have redemption you can convert your Allies’ military building to keep fighting you can switch back to ally so that you can still walk away thru the gates, your allies bases come with an advantage also you can convert their markets which is something you don’t have access at all in your base
@dasarianshuman408
@dasarianshuman408 4 ай бұрын
14:18 "Ooh Mongols ... Where are youuu?" 14:25 *Mongols appear* "ya called for us?" This is pure comedy gold 😂😂😂
@mryes413
@mryes413 4 ай бұрын
When I played this scenario to prevent idle villagers, it was to have the mills set to reseed and queue the farms.
@thomasfplm
@thomasfplm 3 ай бұрын
28:04 I think it could be strategic to attack the trebs and rams at that moment, they were relatively unprotected.
@thomasfplm
@thomasfplm 3 ай бұрын
29:04 It seems it wasn't that necessary.
@joelholtzman609
@joelholtzman609 4 ай бұрын
For those Struggling here is a walkthrough that worked for me: Keep in mind on hard you *absolutely* need all four allies, all buildings and all quests finished. This needs to be done *before* the Mongol invasion. There is plenty of time before the Mongol attack, but there is a hidden timer. When Kotyan comes to help you are pretty close to their arrival I would say. 1. Focus on claiming all FARMS asap. That will give you the base for Imp + Hussars ( DO NOT RECLAIM ANY MILITARY BUILDINGS YET. They are too strongly defended and you dont really need them yet. Most importantly, your opponents will snipe them and you ABSOLUTELY need ALL external buildings for when the Mongols attack. 2. Focus on Green, who should attack you relentlessly first. Put 1-2 trebs on the castle and you have your first ally. I did not yet find a need to go for wood/gold. (Market is enough to buy Imp/Trebs) 3. Since you have your first ally, they will distract the other 3 enemies. Split your attention between reclaiming Wood/Gold sources and attackind RED. That should be a very easy castle to treb. 4. You have 2 Allies now. Start Claiming some military buildings bit by bit + go for CYan 5. You should have three allies now + most eco/military buildings. DO NOT GO TO YELLOW YET. That will trigger the Mongol invasion. Make sure to Help the Varangians go south (now that Red/CYan are your allies) for some gold and more importantly, help the Teutons for some super strong warriors top aid you in the battle to come. 6. Go for yellow. You need to break down the gate before you can reach the castle. Make sure your allies dont damage too much. Now that you have 4 allies the Mongol Invasion will be triggered. Mongol Invasion: Make sure everything is upgraded (Hussars, Halbs, Cav Archers). You need every production building working and mobile. Siege Onagers were too big of an investment for me to make work. I recommend only using those if you can get their moneys worth. 1. Do not face the Mongols head on right away when they are grouped initially. Use a mounted group to snipe the siege which should lag behind, and before the Mongol horde reacts. RUN. The large group should be preoccupied with Yellow anyway. 2. You WILL lose your main fortress after this. Make sure that all other production buildings are working and stacked with units. I forgot to do this but use the left fortress to pick up any lost relics. 3. From here you will start picking off Mongol units bit by bit, and kite them away from the main horde. You can kite them into your opponens castles, and garrison your units in them, to snipe siege. Try to protect your military buildings as much as possible. Resources are not an issue per se if you managed to get all of the buildings before the invasion. Hope this helps. Feel free to comment below if you need more advice.
@a_cleverfool
@a_cleverfool 4 ай бұрын
Is there not a timer for the Mongol invasion? I was assuming that they would eventually hit us no matter what so I rushed to get my 4 allies, who did literally nothing lol
@joelholtzman609
@joelholtzman609 4 ай бұрын
@@a_cleverfool there is. If you wait too long the Mongols come whether you have the four allies or not. (I think once Kotyan comes it gets close,). Yes thats the point. The allies help you one time at the beginning of the invasion and the rest of the time you are on your own. You need to rely on enemy castles/towers to widdle down the enemy. Also when the enemy is attacking random buildings in a town its a good opportunity to catch them off guard
@vicdansanch
@vicdansanch 4 ай бұрын
I will still hate on any scenario that gives me fight against infinite unit spam but dont give that spam when theyre all8ed to me
@joelholtzman609
@joelholtzman609 4 ай бұрын
@@vicdansanch its not infinite thankfully, only a lot 425 units I think, without the option to make more for the AI (ironically, the player is the one with infinite units). And if all AI had infinite units, what would the challenge be? It would be 5v1 without any challenge.
@vicdansanch
@vicdansanch 4 ай бұрын
@@joelholtzman609 at least they could rebuild their initial armies , they are so useless after i conquer them
@Roa16
@Roa16 4 ай бұрын
I just wish allies were a tiny bit more active there at the end, otherwise what I did was lure out all the enemy fast horses and snipe their siege weapons with cavs and then just slowly let everyone die to castles
@Hugh-mongis
@Hugh-mongis 5 күн бұрын
It’s better that they’re not because you can switch you diplomatic stance to neutral and conver their military building even their markets
@julianxamo7835
@julianxamo7835 4 ай бұрын
Your allies should give you control of their bases once they lose all their army tbh
@alessandromaffi4498
@alessandromaffi4498 Ай бұрын
the word massacre of our people is bandit
@al-meqdadjabi8745
@al-meqdadjabi8745 20 күн бұрын
If you ignored the mongols on their first attack this will give you time to collect resources and have a good army, I have build 10 onagers before getting the crusaders, and had them hide below my base, when I was ready and my castle had at least 10-15 cuman horses in it, I went on and killed the first attacking party of the mongols. They attacked from the up side of my base literally were my castle was, and I started spamming them with the onager, literally, didn't lose a single unit from the crusaders xD, I killed almost all the army with the onager spam, and the rest I hunted them with the units I had hiding.
@DisneyXDOmniverse
@DisneyXDOmniverse 4 ай бұрын
Ronin: Total War
@lawnjames562
@lawnjames562 4 ай бұрын
Seems that the Siege Onager is the key to destroying Mongolian army. If you deleted your trash units earlier and make 60 onagers, Mongol cav archers would probably have been cleared up in one fell swoop.
@danielnguyen9393
@danielnguyen9393 4 ай бұрын
Rus infantry but have Norman coat of arm on their shield, if this just a mod then its okay but in the official campaign is unacceptable
@baranyaman5478
@baranyaman5478 2 ай бұрын
Either my game or your game is broken. The mongols destroyed every one of us in about 20 mins game time.Also my monks couldnt drop the relic into the last monastery that you manage to collect all relics before the game ends. It was so weird i gave up on 3.rd try
@andruha366
@andruha366 2 ай бұрын
microsoft isn’t very good in history as I see. “Tsar” title of lordship is never ruled kyivan rus. velykyii kniiaz ruled
@CptManboobs
@CptManboobs 4 ай бұрын
16:50 "Hopefully we can get some big onager shots." *proceeds to fatten half of his own army with a single onager shot.*
@Ciclopotis
@Ciclopotis 4 ай бұрын
I think he would have actually held the city if he focused on the onager micro and not allowing the enemy to get free entry through the gate. As ever, right strategy. poor execution.
@superpoopertrooper9884
@superpoopertrooper9884 4 ай бұрын
@@Ciclopotis Realy anoying to see him go away from the main fight just to click on some barracks. He microed those two barracks more than his army who just walked into the mongol blob.
@CptManboobs
@CptManboobs 4 ай бұрын
So does the Market work in this scenario or is it purely decorative?
@lucrex171
@lucrex171 3 ай бұрын
You can't get one
@CptManboobs
@CptManboobs 3 ай бұрын
@@lucrex171 there is very clearly a market in one of the towns Ornlu has, but you can only see the upper half, it is phased in to another building
@lucrex171
@lucrex171 3 ай бұрын
@@CptManboobs Oh, I didn’t see that
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