>Update Game >Call it next gen >Change absolutely nothing >Break all mods and mods in development >Leave Is Todd on his Bateman arc?

It seems the only reason it is now steam deck verified is because they removed the launcher, which means that you now have to re-enable it using launch options if you want to change the graphics settings. Great job Bethesda...

Updates breaking mods is always fun

Bethesda: let the modders fix the game for us! Also Bethesda: heres an update that breaks all the work you did.

14gb patch to disable the launcher on the steam deck and break mods. Yay...

It is hilarious to me that they took the time to make a next gen patch but didn't fix any of the 'last gen' bugs / design choices like physics being tied to frame rate.

You mentioned the Steam Deck. I noticed a lot of people complaining that the only thing they did was remove the launcher there. Apparently, you can't change the resolution or graphics settings there anymore.

Its crazy how "old" this looks. I remember spending so much time admiring all the fallout environments.

AMD allows you to set per game settings in "AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition" (their counterpart to Nvidia control panel) for future reference. Glad to know Bethesda is still Bethesda and that it is a bad idea to grab the update as I was relying on mods.

Can a game developer please elaborate on why some teams decided that tying physics to framerate was a good idea or the only alternative to build upon?

I hoped they fix the EXTREMELY long loading screens (going in and out of buldings, etc.) but they didn't, i got a really good m.2 nvme ssd and it still takes 2-5 min to load in the Commonwealth, it turned out that loading is tied to your fps, that's Bethesda for ya ༎ຶ⁠‿⁠༎ຶ .

I specifically waited for this patch on PC. Didn't played the game after watching the TV show. Hoping for at LEAST FOV slider, no nonsense with FPS... got nothing.

I really don't understand how the physics/fps thing is still an issue. Truthly I don't actually know the technical reason for it, but what I do know is that a modder fixed it with a 164kb mod. The same issue has been present, and fixed by modders, in every single Bethesda game dating back to Oblivion.

It is sad that they didn't made an actual fix for High FPS on PC. Also, I am sure that they could've made a 120 FPS mode for PS5 and Series X.

It just works!

The chess club win again

Im confused. Is the game supposed to look better now that its next gen? Has anything actually changed?

Vanilla Fallout 4 had some major FPS drops in some area of Boston downtown on cards like GTX 1080 ....

As Steamdeck user: I lost 10 fps and gained nothing in return...

Root Builder + Stock Game folder in MO2 installation directory is a godsent. I'm playing both Next Gen Update and my modded game versions without any issues at the moment.

Hello everyone! (I wanna see some other games like this, using say... A 7900 XT or, a 4070 Super Ti Ultra Deluxe) play some Oblivion 10th Anniversary or somethin.

I wonder if the fov and headbobbing are implemented better with the remaster. I never got past the first few missions dur to severe vertigo. Same with kingdom come deliverance, but the story was so good i powered thru and suffered for a month before i was able to finish the game due to 1 hr in game running and stuff would result to me fked for the rest of the day.

So you use the OCBPC physics mod!! Very nice man! Heh

i turned off vsync in the nvidia control panel and i set the ipresentinterval to 0 in the script. My game still is capped at 48fps even on low settings. Im running it on a rtx 4060. i do have the script extender and the high frame rate physics mod installed and its still capped. not sure what to do.

I have a 7900XT and my solution was actually going into Adrenaline and turning ON vsync, as I normally have it off and use freesync. I did see someone mention that THEIR fix for their specific amd gpu though was turning advanced sync on instead. I need to get in and re test the old version still but so far It seems for my system at least the performance changes are entirely cpu based. I used to get about mid 60s to low 70s at the outside of the goodneighbor entrance and now I get about 90. I HAVE upgraded my gpu since then, but my old gpu (2080ti) was never at 100% usage in that specific area anyways, so I do *believe* it was all cpu optimization gains (my cpu and my overclock for said cpu haven't changed since then, so in theory that should be the same. still want to re run everything on the old patch though just to be 100% certain, so grain of salt on those pre patch numbers for now)

Wish I could sort out why it only plays in a window on my 1440 monitor , I change the resolution and turn off windowed mode but it persists

Wouldn't playing in 2K or 4K resolution be a better option?

you got a fix for the fps being capped at 25-30fps?

Does it have ultra wide settings? (21:9)

It runs smoother on my LCD Steam deck. Couldn't hit 60fps without mods, and even then it had consistent dips of not hover around 50. now it's pretty consistent 60 fps, without mods. High textures and everything else except medium shadow. Added the command (SteamDeck=0 %command%) to change my settings. Created my character. Removed the command, and keyboard works from there instead of crashing.

How do you cap the frame rate in this game on pc?

I'm really jealous of you right now. How can it be that your game is running so well? My performance has totally tanked. Apart from that, the promised ultrawide support is a real joke. With my Ryzen 5 5600x, Radeon 6750xt 12GB, 32GB Ram and NVME, I only get between 30 and 40 fps (1080p Ultrawide) in the intro where nothing is going on.

might give this a revisit did they fix any of the other bugs for companions etc or just graphics?

So I am playing fallout 4 vanilla, no mods, updates off ( unless the game is launched) in steam and almost finish it but now how do I launch the game? From the .exe in the steam game folder? Or just turn off wifi before launching it? I really do not want to update...

I play on an ultrawide and I definitely appreciate the update because of that, but I would REALLY love an FOV slider as well. You know, like the one(s) Fallout 76 has...

So my game has gone into like xray and i can only see a black shadow of npcs and or enemies and i have no clue what to do disabled all mods

what does hd textures do

Thanks for the report on the update. I wont be playing it just yet as I'm waiting for the release of the Fallout London mod. It was originally going to be released on St. George's day but has been delayed due to the next gen update.

I'm getting a consistent and measurable performance increase, on PC, in certain areas downtown. Some occlusion planes or something were swapped around and I'm seeing ~3 fps. Doesn't sound like much, but downtown every frame matters.

Was the vr version updated too?

I have tried for 3 days reinstalling the game and trying snails tutorial with the depos to replace cc content and update but it keeps failing im not playing it now

the physics bug doesn't just break the speed it also makes you get permastuck on computer interactions. You can usually cap at 85ish and be okay but over 90 and the whole game goes to crap.

Bethesda didn't patch support for framerates above 60 but added "widescreen support" not ultra-wide screen support widescreen support apparently it was 4:3 on the PS4 and Xbox One... What is actually going on here this is unbelievable

I spent hundreds of hours building incredibly dense settlements and so i dont want to just give up on my current save, hopefully the modding community and F4SE team cooks up something to make old saves compatible

Honestly with everything being sped up based on frame rate I kinda expected everyone to sound like Alvin and the Chipmunks if not at the very least sound like they just huffed helium 🤣

Really, other than some minor bug fixes and the free Creations, all PC users got was basic ultra-wide support (and I do mean BASIC - I hear that they just stretched the UI rather than go through the effort of making it look right). By the way, is this with the high-res texture DLC? Can't be arsed to reinstall to see what it looks like without it (too much trouble getting a stable frame rate on even the low preset with my R5 3600 & RX 6400 combo to bother trying to play). :P

is it all mods or just most of them? also, the game still has bugs, in fact i've seen more bugs with the new version than the old version and I wasn't even using UFO4P

Is there anyway to fix slow loading screens? Im running the game on a M.2 2tb ssd and the loading has become slower than it was in the previous version.

In the console: fov 120 120 - will set your FOV in game as well as pip boy to 120 (or just replace the number to what is desired) It totally changed the game for me and feels much more immersive like never before!

i remember first playing this game thinking how good it looked. how times have changed

The first thing they teach you in dev courses is how not to tie game logic to frame rate 😅

Fixing the 60fps bug was the biggest problem I had

I'm confused. Why is there a patch if there isn't an HD texture pack or something?

With a 4gb 3050ti laptop it was running better in the areas it had issues with before but it wasnt that much of an improvement. If i werent looking at an fps counter i wouldnt have noticed the difference

I've been playing the GOTY edition, purchased from GOG, for about a week. I'm not sure if it's pre-patch but I still have the launcher. It's also capped at 60fps. I've been trying to fool around with some mods but nothing works. The CMD line works for cheats and such, so I guess that's something.

How does any engine nowadays not use Delta time. that is bonkers. Especially for an engine made by a AAA dev.

My steam started downloading right away and there are no beta to downgrade. People were quick to make downgraders that make some mods compatible. In a meantime, Dying light it is, after 80+ hours of FO4.

@randomgaminginhd what did you think of the TV show?

The game runs great capped at 120, anything over that makes it run faster

The thing I’m most happy about is my massive vault 88 which crashed constantly on ps4 is working great on ps5.

Lock the fps to either 60, 120, or 144fps and enjoy. Worked for me.

Steamdeck and G4560/980 here - soon as I heard there was to be an update 1st thing I did was buy it again on the GOG sale (so I can decide which version to run). Have to disable wifi now before I return to my current Steamdeck run. Might try after that... but why bother.

I am considering downloading it, but the thing is as I have an old system i7-4710HQ w GTX860M, the game before the update was barely acceptable to me in terms of framerate, so I don't know how much it will negatively be affected to give it a go. Not a small download either.

i play on PC. i was hoping that they'll include high fps physics fix as default in their update. yup by default it got unlocked til 120 fps and some audio cues are working properly. however i noticed that even capping at 120fps, the JUMP physics is lessened. its like you cant jump as high as normally before the update.

Surprisingly my game and mods still work perfectly. I only have like 20 mods though.

It's nice how Bethesda sticks to tradition of games from 2000s by tying physics to framerate

On Steam Deck, the game runs pretty well. I was playing it before the update. I do wish they would just add an FOV slider, scaling options, and a frame limiter. The tutorial I did, it's now broken and, I feel like people are getting mad at me. Lol

Had to redownload the entire game for this update

The only mods broken so far are the F4se mods. All my other mods still work.

Ok so afer the classic Fallout games I did not play any 1st person ones. I am considering trying. What should I pick? 3, Nev Vegas, 4 or the 76 one? Or maybe screw it and go for Starfield? I like some plot and not a big fan of the open world sandboxes. I got starfield included with my gpu and picked up the rest of games with some bundles I guess. So money is not an issue.

The problem is Bethesda rushed development on the update and it was completed in only 2 years when it really needed to be 25 years in the making.

Does the performance mode make anyone else’s PS5 overheat? I did a deep clean of my PS5 fairly recently, so I don’t think that it’s my console. One of my friends has also been experiencing the same issue. It’s a bummer because I wanted to play through the game again on console since that’s where I first played it back in 2015.

AMDs easy frame rate cap option is to turn on Radeon chill and set the frame rate to 60 FPS.

I found out alllll I needed to know about the ...next gen "update". I ran by...Thicket Excavations. It's the...same .

I already own the game on Steam, but was curious about the PS4 version. I remember it not running particularly great in Digital Foundry testing, maybe the patch improved things (press X to doubt). It was on sale in the PS store, but not the GOTY version, so I skipped it. It seemed pointless to buy the base game for £4, considering the GOTY version regularly sells for around £10 in PS sales. Currently can't find exact price, as tracking seems to be broken at the moment on the UK versions of the games, on a couple different PS tracking sites.

Luckily the only mods I had installed were the ones from the built-in mod manager and they all seem to work fine. Now if they ever updated New Vegas id be boned because I doubt Tale of Two Wastelands would like that very much.

I had to use the AMD chill to get the frame rate low enough (even at 4k). Update is underwhelming for PC but might try it on PS5 to see the enhancement.

cap to 144 and game works fine. the audio skips sometimes but around 40 hours in now with this setting and not many problems

You mentioned that you would have liked to see DLSS and FSR being implemented. Although that would have been great, FSR 2 requires a DX12-like present device, which comes with additional CPU overhead when the game only supports DX11. That is also the case with DLSS 3. DLSS Super Resolution just by itself supports DX11 just fine, so Bethesda could have added it without any issues, but FSR 2 and the whole DLSS 3 suite would have resulted in a degraded experience for most players. Nevertheless, FSR 2 and DLSS Super resolution are available as a free mod, and DLSS 3 and FSR 3 are available as a paid mod for $5.

On my Core i5 4460, 16GB DDR3 and GTX1050ti the game works with 60 fps, down to 53 fps sometimes when fighting

Played it for one hour and got two crashes to desktop - one just before exiting the vault and second during loading when exiting some building. Outstanding job Bethesda!

In PS5 is fine. Quality mode and performance mode work as intended and the framerate is stable without framepacing issues like the PS4/XOne versions (it would be weird if it had performance isssue a 2015 game that's not a technical marvel or anything tbh) The problem is with the Series X/S because the graphics modes are bugged and it doesn't matter what mode you should it will always be the performance one even if you use a 4K TV/monitor so that's odd. All the mods are broken but I play on PS5 which is already limited in terms of mods so it doesn't matter to me. There's almost zero different in image quality beyond the resolution and framerate. I notice like one tree with better textures and that's it lol

the only thing iv run it too is that after about 45 min of playing the FPS drops to below 10 and i have to reload for it too go back to my normal 72 FPS, i run the game with no mods at all as well so its why my FPS is locked to 72

I am gutted. Downloaded the update yesterday and wated to play it today only to have game Not Lunch on me...... tried to check files Integrity etc all fine but game won't start..... :(

Steam version 4k , no mods usually, no hd pack, amd 5600x and 6800 gfx. Using the prefs file =0 works for fps. Looks and runs smooth. Not much difference from gog version with hd pack that does not have patch yet. I think the only reason for this on PC is to break mods and encourage people to play Fallout 76. At least that's what I am seeing the last 24hrs

I just wondering if now is a good time to play this game. I haven't got my hands on it until recently. So, yeah... I'm late.

The update broke the game on my desktop, it crashes after I move ingame. But no issues on my steam deck.

It wouldn't launch with my mods, created another profile in Vortex and BAM it worked...what worked and/or is working...I have no idea, it's like a margin of error update.

the game is even more broken now for amd graphics cards. the limit for fps is 1/3 of you monitors refresh rate meaning 60 hrz is 20 fps 144 hrz is 48 and 165 hrz (what I have) is 55 fps. I've tried changing the ini files and placing a fps cap within the AMD adrenaline software. i have a 7900xt

When I heard "next gen", I thought the same as you, the witcher... man am I disappointed.

What does this even do besides break things it added some creation club stuff is that it

Never seen a better advert for consoles than this patch. Consoles are now significantly improved. PC's and Steam Deck have been made worse. Hopefully they'll be some fixes soon.

thank god I backed the 90+ gb of the game up before the update dropped lol

This is pretty weird, I have a 1070ti 8gb with an i7-7700 and I only get like 40 fps at medium settings at 1080p

Real nothingburger this update. Hoping that Fallout London turns out good, should be out shortly after the script extender is done.

It's sad for PC really, clearly an update for current gen consoles, the PS5 came out 4 years ago, was locked to 30 before this patch

Interesting 😮

I wish Switch would get Fallout 3 and New Vegas

Bethesda's "Next Gen" update needs a Current-Gen Update.

Finally got to test this. Ultrawide gameplay is nice otherwise, but since the UI is stretched it's not really optimal. Half-assed patch, exactly what I would expect from Bethesda. Oh yeah and the game crashed after a minute of playing...