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I think Tesla was hesitant to put them in the center here in order to mitigate accidents with backing directly into the stalls. But notably, the V4 stalls aren’t as much to the right as V3 stalls have been. It’s definitely closer to the center than the usual V3 installs.

Good to know!!

Perhaps this was a SR model 3.

@@zoltrix7779 LR!

@@electricfelix 15 minutes is way too short for heating the battery, it will take about 45 minutes at Dutch highway speeds in the temperatures you had while driving. No worries though, this was still an okay speed!

@@nielsvandenkieboom5034 good to know for future endeavors thanks!

Yeah I think the cable in combination with the wider parking spot should help a lot when visiting with e-tron like vehicles. I’m not convinced 800V will be flawless since the power cabinets seem unchanged. I’ll be back when it “opens to all” ⚡️

Yes I wonder if this is intentional/still coming/ a test/ etc. I’ll be back (when they open “to all”)

@@electricfelix I read that they are "open to all" now

Completely and utterly correct!

Truth, really looking forward finding one during a summer roadtrip in France ⚡️

Ouch thanks for sharing Piet that doesn’t bode well!

That is abolutely true, but I feel that way they don't maximize the opportunity when they would've gone for more to the left..

I agree. They positioned it perfectly to get the same cable reach for charge ports on either side.

Truth was spoken!

Thank you Thomas, I rushed away from home to borrow the Model 3 and even arrived without my microphone and wallet (and keys hahaha)

SIXT still has plenty rentals (they are 320s from 2020 nowadays mostly) - but I have a friend with an old skool one. You'll see it when I get the chance!

Ha yes it's a very "internationally looking" place :> without a car I don't see how you'll make it here being next to the highway and all ;)

People have been claiming it's just shy of 3 meters!

Tesla designed V3 (and right now V4 uses the same power cabinets) to be at a maximum compatibility with their Model 3/Y/S/X fleet: 250kW is still the max any Tesla can do (they add a couple kW for cooling purposes etc). Also they boost the amperage way above "CCS standards" but since the 250kW never lasts very long this doesn't matter (otherwise temp could become too high for cabling). Long story short, I don't expect Model 3's to become faster at charging without a change in battery packs and so on. Of course future Model upgrades and future V4 installations could alter the status quo. Hope this answers your question!

What I didn’t talk about is the parking spots are WAY bigger (more wide!) compared to before. Regardless of your vehicle this makes things much easier, you’ll have to be smart when parking depending on your vehicle of course especially if you’re charge port is “Chinese” (aka next to your right front wheel)

I think that might be a separate thing for semi only :)

Do you know who makes the cable for Tesla?

They are Efacec! And when I left there was a TOYOTA succesfully charging (Yep I didn't believe it either) so the mechanic they sent actually fixed stuff ha!

No, you can get far but not that far ⚡️

Shots fired!

A v3 will get me 260kw at lowest battery levels/ideal conditions. People should (be reminded) know that as charge% increases, rate you charge at decreases.

They will because of the deal with the government for the money

Spot on and with wider parking spots, world of opportunity just opened ;-)

That's a great question :>

Today at 4.09 PM it was €0.47/kWh

@@PietSchotanus-lt2dt that’s in line with Tesla pricing in The Netherlands however, I was just curious what happens in terms of pricing when using that charger without being in the navigation yet (still not visible in my M3).

@@ZEFElectric I was looking for a fast charger in the Chargefinder app and this app directed me to Tango's fast charger (gas station with EV charger and not Tesla). When I got there I saw the new Tesla Supercharger V4 100 meters away from the Tango charger. I knew a V4 was under construction but not when it would open. I plugged in my Tesla it started charging there and from that moment on, this V4 has been in the Tesla app. Not before charging

Yeah I wonder if that’s a “test”, I love it for accessibility reasons

What is nice to have is the superchargers to show an indicator that there is a fault if it detects it. The mobile and wall connectors show an indicator when there was a fault.

@@LiteGamer52 It would show in the Tesla or the app but yeah a visible indication on the stall would make it a lot easier to locate.

Welcome to Europe (CCS2 everywhere)

@@electricfelix CCS created by the ICE manufactures marketing departments to discourage EV adoption.

@@universeisundernoobligatio3283 Sure CCS2 is not perfect, but it still works fine in Europe where all cars have CCS2. We don't need adapters anywhere.

Power cabinets identical so yeah you’re onto something!

Every Tuesday Tesla pushes new prices to the vehicles. Not every week there are actual changes. For Tesla drivers in The Netherlands it's now around 40 cents OFF peak and 50 cents (per kWh) between 4PM and 8PM (when I visited) see electricfelix.com/tesla as well

Today at 4:09 PM i paid € 0.47 / kWh

Probably, I promise lower SoC % next time ⚡️

​@@electricfelix what's a Soc? Haah

@@valeriobarone State of Charge (battery) %

I will be back but preferably with regular EVs (especially 800V) since I’m way more curious what will happen there (I did lots of tests last year at V3, and V2)

@@electricfelix as far as I know these stalls are still using 480V/520A, so nothing new to really test

@@foobar6846 machine says 615A :)

@@electricfelix the jungle telegraph said it was V3 cabinets. Did it say 1000V?

@@foobar6846 yes just as earlier European V3 twitter.com/electricfelix/status/1636364308299776000?s=46

Others have reported it being just shy of 3 meters

@@electricfelix Thank you.

It will happen. But are bollards the solution?

@@electricfelix That would work. With the longer cable hopefully folks will not get too close, but we all know some folks will.

Interesting. I prefer the look of v4 haha

Hopefully not more than TWO WEEKS!

Wees er als de 1ste bij als ze " open for all" zijn

I will be back, preferably with low SoC and vehicles that can take 800V to see if there are improvements ⚡️

It's meant to reflect my full (first ever) experience - thanks for your feedback!

That's fair enough!

For my Model Y V3 super chargers are perfect length and location, should not be Teslas problem that other manufactures put their charge port in a poor location.

@@universeisundernoobligatio3283 Telsa want extra income from other EV owners, to help maximise use of their chargers, so in their interest to make their chargers suitable to all vehicles.

The v4 does look very futuristic, not sure how I feel about it yet though

You have to remember that Tesla uses CCS2 in more regions than they use NACS; no-one has a problem with it, apart from Americans who, for some reason, enjoy telling those of us in the rest of the world how terrible it is that we have a unified standard, while they deal with plug wars and adaptors.

@@CharlesGregory As an enginner its sad to see such a poor designed standard being adopted. Also as a Canadian my NACS Model Y needs no adapters to travel anywhere.

Dude, get some mental medical help for your obsession about CCS vs NACS

@@universeisundernoobligatio3283 What are you talking about? Both the NCAS and CCS2 are a good. They use the same signaling. CCS2 has supported up to 1000V and 350A for years. From the looks of things, it seems like Tesla is finally jumping on the 1000V bandwagon. Tesla is adopting the Megawatt Charging System (MCS) for Tesla Semi. It's such a weird take to have.

CCS2 is fine. I don't understand what the massive issue Americans seem to have with it. Enjoy your adapters and plug wars.