I'm also a Canadian boilermaker, also am sick of how heavy Fibre metal is, and also was about to buy an outlaw leather shield. You saved my wallet. Thanks brother.

I love this guy's common sense approach. I'm a retired mechanical engineer and I really appreciate his skills and drive and initiative. Keep em coming. Thank you

I just got my pipeliner today lol. I have to say, I really like your videos. Keep em up.

Thanks for honest video on the outlaw hood ,was looking at getting one ,but I just look at them now

Took your advice and picked up the princess auto shield. I love it and been using it for about a year now

i still weld with both the pipeliner with a flip and a tiger fibre metal hood. like them both this is a good video

It took me a long time to figure out what I liked in a welding helmet. My personal preference is an unmodified pipeliner helmet. The flipfront mod adds a ton of weight.

I use a 35$ Jackson helmet everyday/all day. Going on 5 years now. My employer offers them to us from NAPA at that price point. I added a leather bib that I cut out of an old couch we were throwing out. I find it funny when guys buy expensive auto darkening lids. They never last. Good video. 👍🏽

Great video dude. I’m in local 128 as well, the princess auto hood is the best field hood hands-down. I’ve chopped it and added leather to it and made it even lighter

Local 2520 piledriver. I agree with you man. Cheap and practical in the feild! Especially when you work in mud and dirt and your hood gets dirty. Im not cashing out on outlaw now because i was going to.

Couple guys at my shop have some of those hoods you like so much theyre pretty good and honestly so light i have a classic hood with leather but i like the 12 dollar hood a little more

As a boilermaker in the USA I love my fiber metal 706gy I had it for 15 years now I also like huntsman hoods to

The princess auto is almost identical to the Hobart flip front helmet. The Hobart might be a little shorter. They run about $20 US now. The mini pipeliner helmet are king of the hill.

I feel like that outlaw leather hood is more for field welding with SMAW. Pipeliners and ironworkers would probably benefit from that way more. You are totally right about that outlaw hood it is not for fcaw in a shop

those hiderok style lids are great. cheap and tough like you said. Grind that retainer clip down a bit and you can fit a nice arc singles HD lense in it and use it for everything. My go to hoods are the straight up pipeliner ( holds up/stops sparks when im pipelining ), the hiderok style like yours or the jackson flip up fixed shade.. the weldtube flip up lense are solid, but the clips suck so usually needs to be glued on the hood. but WAY better than the sellstrom flip front.

I use a Hobart version of the power fist hood in a fabrication shop and it is the best hood I've used ..... I've used everything from the 2x4 esab firepower welding hood to the fiber metal tiger and pipeliners hoods .... Even pancake hoods .... But I always find myself using the 16$ el cheapo welding hood

Helll yeah my guys a fellow project farm watcher

I also used that cheep helmet for year. They work great. Only thing it does fit my Lincoln auto so switched back to the new Fibre-metal so I can open up the lens slot so I can put the thicker Lincoln adjustable lens.

yep 8 years with my fiber metal tiger hood and still going strong

I have 2 pipeliners. One with a flip and one that does not, both are cut way the fuck down top and bottom to the point where it just barley clears my chin. Anyways, even with the amount I cut my flipper down it’s still pretty heavy compared to the one that doesn’t.

Union Boilermaker from the states here. I use a Hunstman slider. You have to get an original paper/cardboard one though for the benefit of it being lighter. They make a plastic model that looks like the cardboard one, but its a little bit bigger and obvioulsy heavier. I have an old cardboard one. Its light as a feather. Great for tube welding and boiler work as far as soft band goes. Also, with any hood, hard hat hood or soft band, try to avoid flipping the hood down by shaking your neck to make it fall. That is actually what causes more damage and injuries over time to a welders neck. It takes some time to get used to reaching up and pulling it down, but it pays dividends to do it thay way instead of the neck shake.

My brother has a similar one of those cheap hoods (I might have one somewhere.) I always sorta thought of it as being cheap new plastic for someone who didn't weld enough to put money into it, but honestly, I don't see anything wrong with them. The hood I use is an old Fibre-Metal flip front, old enough to still have the potmetal front. I've run dual shielded flux core myself, and I've always liked the peace of mind of having a metal lens holder. The plates go in from the side, but I always take the spring out and load them in stacking against the bottom instead of trying to force them one behind the other, never get any real scratches.

really dig that flashlight you have mounted on front of the hoods....Bravo

Fibre metal FUTURA is the lightest hood I've ever used.BY FAR! I,too fell victim to the outlaw hood craze.not for shipyard,outside work.lets in lots of light through the bottom. And yer right.Zero wieght saving.

Lincoln Viking 3350 with the external grind mode button. Love it!

I never had a problem with my outlaw leather hood. Mine has a tiger hood that was chopped with leather way lighter then the pipeliner version. I don't live in a very cold climate so the leather freezing was never a problem.

Used a speedglas and airflow unit for a long time. Heavy and a lot to move around in all day. Caused me short term neck issues. Swapped to a cheapie like yours and Jackson head gear with a respirator - perfect, no more neck problems.

I have a save phace I like it it’s light enough to for me its very comfortable but like they really don’t make any more products I’ve been looking for a welding shield the blocks out light for I can weld outside but not be as heavy or be a flip up. But same problem with mine the lenses and upper part of my shield gets really hot. Edit: as well with being a click dial shield I prefer those more for I can set up my darkening I regularly run shade 10 or 11.

Great video. Still in the hunt for my go to welding hood. Can u make a video on how to install it to the hard hat.

I know this is an older video but Obviously you need a pipeliners cloud carbon fiber hood and id suggest a truearc 2x4 auto vpro or gold lens. Best setup ive had in my career. And definitely non flip front.

JTwelder with the last hood with the fiber metal attachment on it, how well does a respirator fit under it? I now use the Hobart cheapo welding helmet. It's the same build as your but a lil smaller on the bottom piece which sucks if you're doing overhead. I work out in the ship yard so i need something small but they get onto me because I don't use the hardhat attachment because I can't wear a respirator with the attachment.

Try a huntsman with the slide lense, best hood I’ve ever had, lighter than a feather and still has the “grind mode” comfier than anything else, only thing is rub it with sno seal and rivet some leather from an old pair of gloves to the bottom and your golden, million dollar hood that cost me $70 (boilermaker L169)

Any chance you have a link to the 1 with sqaure holes? Everything i click looks right but thr desription doesnt go deep enough.

The flip up what’s make the outlaw weigh alot but the fixed lens shell is lighter

We have to use airflows in the UK or we won’t get any NHS help if needed! Plus most are now reactor lights which I don’t mind but cost a lot more than the dark shades ( filters )

Ok thank you. Bc piledriver here and you saved me about $250. I rock my fiber metal and princess auto ones and they always last and last. Any ideas on better hardwear for them though? The plastic on fiber metal always breaks

Thanks for the honest review. Aside from the price do you think that hood is better than the tiger hood?

There’s no need for a flip up!!! Just switch to a damn grinding shield. It doesn’t take much time and you won’t have to keep changing out your clear backing lens.

You want a proto babyshell screen they are made in Holland by North safety or honeywell. Lightest screen you will use even lighter if you replace the rear of the harness with elastic. If I was mig welding I would stick a bit of leather on it with silver tape or rivets so my neck dident burn bar a monkey screen ( leather and lens) its the lightest out there.

Do you have the link for the hood you recommend? Fellow boilermaker here local 105!

Hey thanks man? How does she fit with a respirator? Im moving from a shop welding position to field welding and im trying to get all my gear sorted before I start?

On that outlaw hood You can take that leather off and get a short piece and velcro that shit on the inside I made mine I cut it copper riveted the top velcro the bottom I have different lengths for the Bib. Just pull the short bib off stick a long bib on my hood is light I tig alot no grinding so my hood works .I have several different hoods for different applications if I was dual shield Flux core welding the full hood like you have is the way to go.

So you modify the holes so a fiber metal halo can fit ? Or it’s a specific model that has the holes for it ?

Could you make a video showing how to modify the springs in the cheap helmet? I haven't heard of or seen that done

Hey love the channel, I’m a 1st year psw apprentice in the 128 as well. Where did you find the flip front hood that uses fibre metal attachment holes? I’ve got a princess auto hood with miller headgear like yours too but I want to get a hood setup for the fibre metal hard hat adapter too.

I think it’s the quality of the leather is the issue, I have a custom hood that has a leather drape and I’ve used it for over a year and haven’t had to do anything to it. Also I’m doing duel shield. Flexible leather is so much better. It’s the exact type of leather you showed, just not as fancy but we’re welders lol gimmicks don’t get the job done.

Pipeliners cloud carbon hoods are stupid light. Even with an auto lense, better headgear, and a flip front they're lighter than a standard fibremetal without the flip front.

Intresting Outlaw leather lists a brown suede one now for $140... I guess you tube review may matter..

Yeah I’ll buy that leather pipe liner hood off you 😁😁👍🏽👍🏽

For the princess auto hood you said use the the fiber metal hard hat adapter. Do you need to make any adjustments to the hood for the fiber metal adapter?

Is the cheap hobart flip front basically the same hood?

You can just soak that leather and hang it and it will straighten out and to condition cheap lotion works fine its skin it works the same but I do get what your saying. Carbon fiber sugar scoop is my favorite with basic auto darkening.

Im also a Boilermaker out of Edmonton.

Link to your helmet ?🙌🏽

I’ve never oiled my helmet either, the trick is to fold the leather inwards

Late comment but run a piece of 3/32” tig wire through the flip fronts gets rid of that junk plastic

So many guys in trades wouldn’t wear that solely because it’s so cheap. Doesn’t matter how great it is. It’s not expensive/overpriced so it won’t pass in the workplace fashion show.

You really got me into becoming a boilermaker, was chasing becoming a pipeliner like every other welder in the us but quickly realized there are a ton of other great welding paths that can make just as much money and be just as rewarding

I like the cheap ass hoods you have in this video too, but they do not seem to fit auto darkening lenses in them ( at least with a front and back cover lens ). How do you fit them in there? I have added sellstrom lens holders to mine

I like my outlaw leather hood

Are you out of Sarnia local?

Парни, я работаю сварщиком в России, работаю с трубами, у меня имеется такая же маска только в белом цвете, но к сожалению при падении раскололась крепление маски на голову, и блин в России его не купить, не подскажите как можно заказать крепление на голову

Can’t stand welding with a fixed shield unless it’s outside and pretty bright. Also can’t stomach paying outrageous prices for some of the fancy auto dark hoods with expensive proprietary clear lenses. So my happy medium is a pipeliner or pipeliner type hood (the one in the video would be just fine) with an arc one singles or techniweld seer 2x4 auto lens. You won’t cry when it gets banged around and the clears are cheap and plentiful

My guy the outlaw leather hood isn’t made for fcaw they sell hoods for your welding process.

Lot's of people swear by that last mask! Mine comes in today. Let's see what this is all about. : )

Can you add an auto darkening lens to the shield ?

Where can I find this hood in the states?

You’re a boilermaker!? I’ve been trying to get information on that job field for a minute, have yet to find any people or videos that go in debt with that! Would love to pick ur brain, I’m a welder in the navy, tig and stick.

Fiber metal all-day , Everyday

Sugar scoops 🇺🇸💪

Get you a carbon fiber pancake they last good and their like 10 ounces

Ill take it if u dont want it

Don’t weld with a hard hat, use the outlaw and hate the new headgear. It would be best if they had the fibre metal band, as far as conditioner I only use coconut oil it keeps it soft. Salt makes that cheap leather stiff. Even pumpkin seed oil when we cook with it. Cheap and it’s food. 😂

I bought a Huntsman [now part of Jackson] fiber type hood, thinking it would be lighter, and look Cool old school...the one with the flip front....well, it is heavier and the flip front does not flip down completely without pushing by hand,,,,,nothing as nice as the Fibermetal Tigerhood.... and the head gear is terrible, and always catches on my big old ears.......ouch..... I am a firm believer in Fibermetal......I actually took a 180 dollar auto dark hood from another company, can't remember the name, but will try and find and edit this post and pulled the cartridge out....[it is a 4x5 vertical,] turned it sideways and installed in a Fibermetal Tigerhood 4x5.....great side vision.....and the only wide auto dark 4x5 I have seen....their head gear was trash, hood after one hour would never stay up.... the reason I bought in the first place was the reallygreat color and clarity of the lens and brightness when not dark.... .I only use where I need that peripheral vision.....and do not have to be flipping up to see due to the area being dark.... I hope this helps....cheers, Paul

We get bro you dislike outlaws hood but majority of people like em 🤷‍♂️

I love my outlaw leather. You gotta 1000% treat the leather. You dont understand how to treat leather and thats why your problem. 1st step is to wet your leather and stretch it. It will go back to its original shape. You have to keep leather hydrated. Water will do the trick. I've had mine and used it exclusively for about 3 years. Idk what youre expecting.

You could have set the hood down, upside down

KT Elite for 100 dollars.....in pristine white 😁

Cheap 💯👍

Outlaw hoods are no good tbh there too heavy and the leather don't last not worth the money

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Oil the goddamn leather son. Take care of your tools. If you take care of them they’ll take care of you.

Get a speedglas helmet

They use vegan leather

Ok buddy settle down, god forbid you have to take care of the things that help you make a living.

All I hear is whining, u guys do that a lot in Canada eh?

ts funny dude spend half the video bitching about a hood he bought but love the video tho

Outlaw leather not really cool if I pay over 200 for a piece of skin

How close are you to your welds bro jesus those helmets are used by pipe liners that’s why it’s called a pipe liner hood the sugar scoop I think your the only one with this problem. Hey let me set my hood on the hot leather and hope it stays perfect should have set it upside down! It’s a different style hood then the fiber metal so therefore there are different procedures to keep it I’ve never maintained mine other than the clear lenses sorry YOU fucked yours up

You're welding in sub freezing Temps and your hood gets to hot to touch... so you switched to the cheapo an it hasn't warped or melted or stress cracked, freezer to oven to freezer dropping it 100ft Bending an crushing... really? I'm thinking you are an exaggeration super marvel or a liar.

All these welding hoods are trash. 🤦‍♀️

Those outlaws hoods are really for tig welders. It's not for pipeline welding or anything else but tig welding or 1g welding.

Princess auto lol. Definitely Canadian

$30 forney bandit beats the crap out of everything

Time stamp 0:05 did you steal the one painted orange from Jamar because that is their tool paint color