My Ideal Shunting / Switching Model Railway Layout - Part 3 - Operating Potential / Trains Running

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@alexthewoo
@alexthewoo 3 жыл бұрын
I swear when ever you guys upload a video I go upstairs to fiddle with my layout 😂. Thanks
@southjersey10
@southjersey10 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I’m running both down and up the stairs ..... I keep having ah ha moments. 😊
@alexthewoo
@alexthewoo 3 жыл бұрын
@Yeet Man Trains my layout is in my room, it's a tiny shunting layout
@ewanfawkes2708
@ewanfawkes2708 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexthewoo same
@JohnSmithShields
@JohnSmithShields 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a euphemism?
@seagraverailwaysandmodels2408
@seagraverailwaysandmodels2408 3 жыл бұрын
Think I’m one of those who would happily watch for an hour
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@paulbrennan3760
@paulbrennan3760 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@ewanfawkes2708
@ewanfawkes2708 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulbrennan3760 me three
@ukdave57
@ukdave57 3 жыл бұрын
Hear! Hear!
@ewanfawkes2708
@ewanfawkes2708 3 жыл бұрын
Me Four, I think?
@OlivierGabin
@OlivierGabin 3 жыл бұрын
A potential Minories-style classical layout plan : everything you need in a tiny space, with few requirements and lots of possibilities. I've chosen it for my first one !
@southjersey10
@southjersey10 3 жыл бұрын
The layout shows the utility of having long head shunts and at least one storage (spare siding) track. It’s like that game with 15 numbers on small plastic squares with one open area to allow the numbered squares to be slid into position. Open/available spaces are good. I’m not very knowledgeable about all things railroad ...... however, I get the impression that British wagons may be on average shorter than American rolling stock. All that to say that when designing layouts it’s good to allow enough space to allow the wagons that are used to sit comfortably without blocking track access for another consist. This presentation demonstrated that concept. And yes, test locos and wagons and their combinations. I’m still learning what pieces of equipment are best for a specific layout. Thanks, Mark
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, yes prior to the 1980,s ish UK wagons were mostly very much shorter
@samweavers2661
@samweavers2661 3 жыл бұрын
Great thank you, I will have a look and try and make one lol
@guylewis3982
@guylewis3982 7 ай бұрын
Hi, just enjoyed watching the video again. Your great videos have stirred up the 'inner child' in me and I am re discovering the joys of model railways, Thank you!!!
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 7 ай бұрын
Glad we could help and thanks for your support
@mikparker2572
@mikparker2572 2 жыл бұрын
I, for one, could sit and watch this shunting all day. Great video sir👏🏼👏🏼
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we have steam trains running on my shed layout running video just uploaded which you might enjoy. Thanks for watching and commenting, Happy New Year.
@misstrever1952
@misstrever1952 3 жыл бұрын
Even for a budget model railway you've got the shunting operations spot on for such a small space, brilliant! 👌
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Clarinetboy82
@Clarinetboy82 3 жыл бұрын
Until I found your videos I never even considered having a layout just for shunting. This layout also brought to mind the town of Eureka Springs, Arkansas. It had a spur off of a main line that ended on the north end of the town. The only thing left is the spur. Very pretty small station made of stone, and there's a now abandoned ice house that the spur connected with. When I start building my own shunting layout, I might model it similar to that. Also there's a long abandoned spur that goes from my city to a little town called Chadwick, Missouri that used to service a mill down there, so I might incorporate that as well to give another industry. Thanks for the great video!
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help. Shunting is rewarding in itself and does allow you to at least run some locos and rolling stock in a small space. Those locations sound fascinating
@gregpotter6957
@gregpotter6957 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds a great basis for a layout, especially like the sound of the ice house
@JDsHouseofHobbies
@JDsHouseofHobbies 3 жыл бұрын
I'm watching a few British layout videos for an HO switching layout I have planned for the future. I'm getting a lot of great ideas.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Let us know how you get on, have fun
@PhilPage227
@PhilPage227 3 жыл бұрын
Great to watch, glad it is not just me where the rolling stock misbehaves as soon as you press `record`
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Its the gremlins!
@dibley1973
@dibley1973 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, Mike. I'm almost finished wiring my shunting layout, and it was down to your videos that I even returned to the hobby. Before seeing your videos the cost put me right off. You continue to show the railway modelling world that layouts can be made within tight budgets, so thank you for continuing to post great videos like this. . Soon I'll be back working on my daughter's trainset, so there will be some much more colourful pics on my Insta over the next few months. Hopefully some more fairy house and gardens too. . Thanks again for sharing.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help and inspire, the hobby can be pompous, elitist and expensive, we do our best to show a different way. Cant wait to see your layouts, especially your daughters
@poshingtonno1157
@poshingtonno1157 3 жыл бұрын
The layout looks great and looks like it has endless shunting possibilities for its size.
@JPoulAndersson
@JPoulAndersson 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice little shunting layout Mike. I think this might be the cutest you've ever built, it's so English with all the poster boards, the small canopied station and even a hint of undulating landscape at the rear - I really love it! Rgds, Joachim
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks thats very kind
@peteduncan-um4kx
@peteduncan-um4kx 10 ай бұрын
very cool I'm new to small diorama/layout shunting and i made it till the end for all its hesitations, thanks
@brettany_renee_blatchley
@brettany_renee_blatchley Жыл бұрын
The hand of a _gentle & jolly_ god make good-work of the wagons, passengers & parcels of the _whimsy-way_ of rails & town. All Aboard! Sit back, relax & watch The Budget Model Railways of the _imaginative & resourceful_ Father & Son pair! 😊💜 🇬🇧 🚂🚃🚃🚃 🇬🇧 🚃🚃🚃🚂 🇬🇧
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks as always
@davecarter4015
@davecarter4015 3 жыл бұрын
Like this layout. Would keep me entertained for hours. Nice one.
@alanswallow9033
@alanswallow9033 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work ! I found it was good to see freight movements rather than round & round the mulberry bush!
@johncourtneidge
@johncourtneidge 3 жыл бұрын
Hurrah! Thank-you! Both/all three.
@johncourtneidge
@johncourtneidge 3 жыл бұрын
Ps, is your uncoupler simply a bent paper clip, or i it magnetised in some way?
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Just a simple bent paper clip!
@paulbrennan3760
@paulbrennan3760 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic update Mike! Really enjoyed seeing a good shunting session and getting to understand more about actually moving stock around the layout. The canopy looks really good. Well the whole layout looks really good. There are loads of things you must get asked to do videos for, but of course it’s having the spare time to do so. Hope you’re all staying safe and well. I sent you a message on twitter re some European locos. I don’t know if you saw that
@IronHorseRailways
@IronHorseRailways 3 жыл бұрын
As you said we all have a preference for shunting. When I was building my North End Sidings layout's actual sidings I purposefully chose to not include any run arounds. Which mean I could use two locos to pilot between each other various stock consists. Moving stabled stock, oil tanks for refueling etc all good fun. Keep the videos up mate!
@jackhstproductions649
@jackhstproductions649 3 жыл бұрын
I always watch your videos to the end lol
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thats great thanks
@ivovanzon164
@ivovanzon164 3 жыл бұрын
For the points you can use underfloor pushrods instead of point motors. That will save you the effort of rebuilding the platforms. The problem with the newer style couplers might be the return springs. These will try to keep the coupler straight when no force is applied to keep them in a reasonably straight line.
@timsully8958
@timsully8958 3 жыл бұрын
Another good video mate ! ☺ That canopy was a great idea, really simple! And that wee demo did illustrate just how much you can do with that formation! 👍 Nice to see that 4F again too. Great choice 😎
@stephenpike3147
@stephenpike3147 3 жыл бұрын
A really nice and thorough shunting demo, shows the potential of a well thought out plan. The kick back siding really is a space saver, just modified my plans to add one as works better for me too - thanks for the unintentional prompt - you never stop learning! thanks Stephen
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Glad we could help
@1977ajax
@1977ajax 6 ай бұрын
I wouldn't worry about video length; I don't have a model railway, so like looking at those of others, particularly when working shunts and so on. Nice layout; may think of copying it one day.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@phillwhitehead8591
@phillwhitehead8591 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video to the end I love simplicity And doing things for your self not relying on an electrical component to do it for you
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@WonderingModeller
@WonderingModeller 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike & Douglas 😎👋 Many thanks for your video.. Always great to see a good running session. Great to see homemade uncoupler, I use a cocktail stirrer. Have a great weekend guys and look forward to seeing your next project(s)/video 😊👍
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan, a bent paper clip works fine lol. Thanks for watching and commenting
@brettany_renee_blatchley
@brettany_renee_blatchley 3 жыл бұрын
Fun to watch again! 😊❤ [You are easing my stress as I help my spouse through her cardiac-hospital stay today. (Just wanted you to know that your videos do more good than you might imagine.)]
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
So glad we could help, and good luck to your spouse hope it all goes ok
@HaloXIIII
@HaloXIIII 3 жыл бұрын
Liked the seeing an 0-6-0 tender on one of your smaller shunting layouts. I also like the way you read up on railways and factor that into the operations!
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I have 4-4-0 tender loco that runs really well as well
@wimbletrain
@wimbletrain 3 жыл бұрын
it's amazing how may operations you can do in such a small space. Cheers John
@brucewoods9377
@brucewoods9377 3 жыл бұрын
Love that shunting demo. Always great to watch despite the minor errors and hiccups 👍👍👍🚂🚂🚂
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
I like my videos to be true to life and not too over produced , glad you like them thanks for watching
@mikefrombournemouth2942
@mikefrombournemouth2942 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent shunting layout. Work well for an Inglenook puzzle shunting game.
@flyboy2610
@flyboy2610 3 жыл бұрын
You've really made that layout come to life, Mike!
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@chazco
@chazco 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive shunting (switching in the USA) layout. I may have to build a similar layout myself.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@charlie1872
@charlie1872 3 жыл бұрын
Watching now and I have empathy with you regarding the loco hesitation and and wagons jumping over points. I have just about finished laying track, still looking for two left hand points which are difficult to find second hand here in Toronto. The odd older Triang Sleeper coach will de rail and I don’t know what caused it. Also have acrake of grain tanks and some of them jump over points. Could you do a video on this topic? Another thing is the controller, I too have the same one you have and find sometimes when I try to slow a train down it tends to speed up. Any ideas on that? Thanks and keep up the great work
@TRRailfan
@TRRailfan 3 жыл бұрын
Great use of space! That looks fun!
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@andrewretallick4614
@andrewretallick4614 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see the operating potential of the layout. Great video. Andrew
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@andrewharper7786
@andrewharper7786 3 жыл бұрын
I stayed to the end and Laurent a lot about shunting 👍👍✌️
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
That's good thanks
@ianryan5727
@ianryan5727 3 жыл бұрын
Pinking shears, what a brilliant idea!
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Quick and simple!
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited 3 жыл бұрын
I've done several shunting puzzle videos and yours is way more popular! So well done, nice to see what can be done in a small space
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Very kind thanks
@Maurice_Moss
@Maurice_Moss 3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of us would watch an hours shunting video tbf 😅 its quite therapeutic to watch 😀
@adrianandkatrinadove203
@adrianandkatrinadove203 3 жыл бұрын
very enjoyable to watch..btw...,very nice sentiment about your dad, in the previous video....My dad too,got me into the hobby.....Ade
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thats what dads are for, among other things. Lol
@1987TimeLord
@1987TimeLord 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for a video of this layout in action. Superb work as always :)
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks
@ianstransporthistorystuff8175
@ianstransporthistorystuff8175 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video , my small model railway is a shunting layout and I've been lucky to have done real shunting with a class 10( Blackstone diesel engine ) version of a class 08 and once shunted a class 33/ 73 and with Queen Mary brake van, to move a steam loco for coaling up.and also some trip goods workings too , and found I like shunting more than just going up and down the line with a passanger service, keep up the good work .
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
That must have been great! The nearest I got was a short ride in a class 07
@ianstransporthistorystuff8175
@ianstransporthistorystuff8175 3 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways it was , can't do it anymore due to heath now and at 52 my eye sight not as great lol , but great fun getting to drive a diesel loco regularly a few years ago and one that a rare bread too as only a handful of class 10s left and I think only 2 still run now ? Also got to drive a class 37 too .when this horrible virsa thing is over you should both come to the spa valley railway am sure I can get you both a cab ride in one of the diesels?
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
That would be great thanks. We had a lovely day on the spa valley a few years ago. I had my cab ride on the lavender line some years ago as I used to know a couple of people there. Take care
@ianstransporthistorystuff8175
@ianstransporthistorystuff8175 3 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways that's ok :) I rember one night on one of the diesel galas , a mate was driving the class 26 and I was on the rear with a class25 and the class 26 was failing , and we had a heavy train of mark 1s , so as my driver was on the radio and dead man's pedal and i on the power handle , so i put it on full power and I still can hear and see the noise from the 6 cyl Sulzer engine and sparks from the engine exhaust , was like the old times going up the bank at Manchester miles platting , just pure magic, and some people think diesels don't have character! Lol also done some steam and it's not Romatic I can tell you that from experience! Lol.
@tonywilliams9600
@tonywilliams9600 3 жыл бұрын
That looked really fun, and a video on looking at coupling comparability would be most helpful..
@richardclowes6123
@richardclowes6123 2 жыл бұрын
Pinking shears/craft scissors eh ! what ever next !!! Can't believe that I have a pair of my mums sat in a drawer and didn't know what to do with them . . . I do now !!! excellent idea. I have a large layout but with only a small engine yard to park up the odd engine. Having watched your vids on this theme I've now decided that I will be extending the width of my layout another 12" wide x 6' long and create a shunting yard. I have only ever used peco electrofrogs which require power switches as well as point motors. I've just bought a GWR train pack, new and un-used, of eBay that you mentioned on your harbour side vids as it seemed well geared for crawling. I hope this is as good as yours is. I never thought I'd be interested in 'shunting' as it's termed but I've only watched a few of your vids tonight and I feel like I've been missing out. Question . . do you think that using peco insulfrogs (smaller than Hornby) would be best for shunting rather than electrofrogs and all the extra power switching. The reason I ask is because if I use insulfrogs will this stop other trains in other siding from moving. I was thinking that if I had a long siding I cut effectively power it in 2 stages where only the front train would move leaving the rear train stationery and move that one later by powering up the 2nd part of the line. I too have a problem with maintaining long term interest in things so I have to work around it . . . 'It needs to be complex and done now'. I know you'll understand where I'm coming from. Have to say I'll be watching more of your vids for sure. Cheers for the inspiration. xx
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, many thanks for watching and commenting. I always use small Peco insulfrog points for DC shunting as they transfer the power reliably and remove the need for isolated sections etc
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 2 жыл бұрын
Ps, but you wouldn't be able to have two trains on the same long siding unless you put an isolated section in
@richardclowes6123
@richardclowes6123 2 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways Hi, thanks for the response on which points to use. I think I'll go with the peco insulfrogs as it'll be less of a headache if I forget to switch power to the right sections which could frustrate me. Cheers.
@dickygeemusic
@dickygeemusic 3 жыл бұрын
Due to space limitations my plan has always been to have a shunting layout. However, I really haven't known what to do for a track plan. Whilst I have been inspired by your earlier shunting layouts (it was the £35 layout that got my juices flowing for a layout in the first place) this is the track plan for me. Thanks, Mike, I think this will be perfect for my space and for my train running pleasure. Now the winter isn't too far away, I think it will soon be time to get building. I was undecided, also, whether to ballast or use mat. I have decided to ballast. I have also spent the past couple of years collecting all the bits and pieces that I need from bootsales, table sales, Facebook and Ebay and now I have no excuse not to get started, as I probably have enough track alone for a few layouts lol.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great , have fun with it and let us know how you get on
@diez66
@diez66 3 жыл бұрын
As always, inspiring hoping my attempt will be a functional and eventually as tidy.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, have fun with your layout
@petersmith4455
@petersmith4455 3 жыл бұрын
hi, great video, i use my old triang brake vans which are small, shunting the Birds Custard wagons around with a triang dock shunter ,then a triang class 31 picks them up for the journey to the shops,, i agree you do not have to spend a lot of money on locos and wagons. most wagons i have cost less than six pounds each. locos around twenty five pounds !
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great fun, those are the sort of prices I aim for now too
@DuncSargentsKarstValleyRR
@DuncSargentsKarstValleyRR 3 жыл бұрын
Good job, and good job on reaching you subscriber goal -- and then some. Merry Christmas! --dunc
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks happy Christmas
@sophiaevans9908
@sophiaevans9908 3 жыл бұрын
I'd watch an hour of train movements on that layout...
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thats kind thanks, maybe one day
@johnprice5784
@johnprice5784 3 жыл бұрын
I did, I pressed pause without noticing, that last train was a hell of a long time coming. :)
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@TheJpec361
@TheJpec361 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! You know trains always wait until there's company to misbehave...
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Andy001z
@Andy001z Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the shunting, really helped with seeing how it all works. I wonder how big this would be in N scale.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways Жыл бұрын
A quarter of the size in theory
@jacobonions4076
@jacobonions4076 3 жыл бұрын
As i was watching this it made me suddenly want to make a shunting layout. Really good video.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you should
@peterb1543
@peterb1543 3 жыл бұрын
Well thought out layout.Great.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@johnroberts7924
@johnroberts7924 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you and a lovely layout you have.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@kevinhale9400
@kevinhale9400 Жыл бұрын
Your coupling and uncoupling seems to have improved no end. It must be all the practice you’re getting, lol.
@michaeldavies9600
@michaeldavies9600 3 жыл бұрын
It looks great i really like the wall at the back which slopes down.Well done for showing us all the fiddly bits! When it didnt go to plan etc.A lot of wagons are just to light to be pushed back and work better with a bit of weight added.My Budget Model Railway controllers are still working great after two years of using them.I wonder how many people made them in the end?
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
We have sold 500+ so far, 9 so far this week, so there are a lot out there!
@michaeldavies9600
@michaeldavies9600 3 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways Im not surprised they do work very well,miles better than those poxy Hornby efforts,i also have a Gaugemaster controller i love it but these work just as well in my book :)
@johngondol8940
@johngondol8940 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, for another excellent, thought-provoking video. I like the track plan and possibilities for shunting very much. I believe that I will build it, here in beautiful East Texas. Thanks for the inspiration!
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting, it will be interesting to see what it looks like as a US outline layout. All the best to the lone star state
@johngondol8940
@johngondol8940 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, it will be a British outline layout. I am enamored of the charming locos and rolling stock that do not look like my North American outline trains. That said, if I build a hybrid scene, I may be able to run both North American and British outline equipment. I’ll keep you posted. Cheers, John
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
@@johngondol8940 sounds great, are you able to get UK outline locos and rolling stock ok? I guess one advantage is they are smaller especially the goods wagons, which make it easier on a small shunting layout
@johngondol8940
@johngondol8940 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I certainly can’t go to my local hobby shop to purchase them. Actually, bricks and mortar shops have pretty much dried up in the States. I pretty much have to do my shopping online. The days of going into a well-stocked shop and walking up and down the aisles, looking for neat items to add to my layout are pretty much gone. I do most of my shopping on eBay and with a couple trusted online retailers. Once in a while I find some British outline items on US eBay, but purchase most of my items from Hatton’s, Rails of Sheffield, and Kernow Model Rail Center, as well as eBay UK. My perception is that the Railway hobby is much stronger in the UK than the US, at present. Sad but true. John
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
All fair comments, sadly, try Classic Rail for good second hand items, really trustworthy guy , ships to the US and has a good website,
@tonypetts6663
@tonypetts6663 3 жыл бұрын
Different tension locks can be a nightmare. It might be worth changing them to a uniform type. Dapol do various types in packets of 20 which you can often get for around a tenner, so not too expensive to change a good number of wagons etc.
@michaelgrant9293
@michaelgrant9293 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, you have obviously really thought about your track plan and operational potential before plunging in and putting track and scenery down. My first layout is a similar size to yours and lives on top of a wardrobe (I mainly do n gauge and US n scale these days due to having very limited space). Watching your layout and how much fun you are obviously having with it is making me want to get it down and have an operating session with it 😛. The track plan is not as sensible as yours but it was meant to be a module in a larger layout that, for various reasons, never got added to (but never say never). Please keep posting videos to keep us informed of your progress, best wishes 🇬🇧 🚆
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair I built a lot of shunting layouts, probably ten or twelve basically practicing skills and track plans, so this one went down quite quickly. Have fun with yours and thanks for watching and commenting
@misstrever1952
@misstrever1952 3 жыл бұрын
...another superb video! thanks for the inspiration, just wondered if the old Peco 'Elsie' couplings would make the shunting easier? 👌
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, the Hornby ones seem to work OK at the moment
@Christiane069
@Christiane069 Жыл бұрын
OK, you didn't loose me. Just found you. Very nice switching (sorry shunting.) Question: I am from the US and still don't really understand the use of brake car (sorry wagon.) In the US the locomotive provide the air power to all the cars (sorry wagons.) Like someone mentioned, yes the hobby can be costly, but hey, that is the price of fun.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 9 ай бұрын
It's similar I believe to what you call a caboose?
@Christiane069
@Christiane069 9 ай бұрын
Well, a caboose doesn't provide braking power. It is a place for the conductor at the time to allow checking for "hot boxes"(journals). As time move on, trains became longer and it became impossible to check bearing from the back of the train. Technology allowed the use of remote control "hot boxes" automatically from the track side with radio communication in the cab. The "journal" that use grease and packing was replaced by wheel bearing witch are more reliable. So the combination of those elements made the caboose obsolete. It is now replaced by an automatic device the check the air pressure and is fitted with a flash red light. Of course all of those apply to freight trains only.@@BudgetModelRailways
@erniebrown6196
@erniebrown6196 3 жыл бұрын
I love the shunting please do more it’s interesting
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have another planned
@glynhowlett3800
@glynhowlett3800 3 жыл бұрын
It's not the length but the quality of the contents that matters and yours are excellent.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thats very kind thanks
@paulbrennan3760
@paulbrennan3760 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike you talk about installing point motors. If you do, could you make it a tutorial Tuesday possibly please 😁
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Of course, no worries
@SBCBears
@SBCBears 3 жыл бұрын
Pinking shears and ball pen-- looks good 👍
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
I should have said its cereal packet card, thanks
@ThatFireEnthusiast
@ThatFireEnthusiast 3 жыл бұрын
beautiful layout! even though its on a budget!
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ThatFireEnthusiast
@ThatFireEnthusiast 3 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways i always ballast is needed on a layout, shows it doesn't need ballast some layouts
@thiruraj3866
@thiruraj3866 3 жыл бұрын
If there are 2 boogie coaches in the bay platform then you could have a small tank engine that can also still fit in the bay platform and still let other locos go by
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@Sophie-vanTg4u
@Sophie-vanTg4u 3 ай бұрын
Hi, love your videos whatever the length, I don't find them boring. Have you thought of having magnets for uncoupling
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 ай бұрын
Thanks, I've looked at most systems, but prefer to keep it simple
@lord_scrubington
@lord_scrubington 3 жыл бұрын
The layout you have build would work really nicely with some 'remotely' switchable points. I found a fairly easy method for achieving this. Get a small, long metal rod and run it through a small channel cut into the baseboard. Alternatively, you could have a layer of cardboard or something to elevate the track and leave gaps for the rod. On one end, connect the rod to the point slider, and the other end (which should be sticking out from the side of the mechanism) put a small handle like thing, perhaps a cork or something. This mechanism works well and doesn't impact the look of most layouts as real points are operated in ways similar to this IRL. It can look especially good if you have all the rods running into the bottom of a signal box.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen that method. If am honest I am quite happy using my finger. Cutting a channel into the baseboard, thick ply, would be pretty tricky and as I don't plan layouts, they evolve, I wouldn't know in advance what buildings and scenery would need adapting. I have used this method in the loft layout though
@lord_scrubington
@lord_scrubington 3 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways Fair enough. I tend to put a softer layer of material over my baseboards, which is why I am able to use this method. At the end of the day though, people all have different ways of modelling and there is no 'absolutely correct' way to do it. It is best to just model in a way that you find best.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
I think its a good system with lots of advantages as you say
@michaeldavies9600
@michaeldavies9600 3 жыл бұрын
Ive seen that method used before its a very clever but easy way of changing points.
@alextopley2657
@alextopley2657 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! And yes I watched all of it 😉 great little layout, could get very busy with goods and passenger trains in at the same time. Make a really good exhibition layout. Question though, where is the power connected to? On the entry and then some into the kick back siding?
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
The entry and the end of the head shunt for the kickback siding. Hopefully we will all be able to exhibit again son?!
@alextopley2657
@alextopley2657 3 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways fingers crossed 🤞🏻 I'm sure they will be very busy when we are and they will be full of layouts named Covid or Corona im sure
@paulathomas4944
@paulathomas4944 3 жыл бұрын
That's a nice little layout you've built there. I know from experience that mixing wagons with different sized couplings can be a recipe for hours of frustration. My solution was to only use wagons with large D couplings. Happily the used market is awash such wagons :) Most of mine are Triang/Hornby but I've also found that Airfix, Dapol and Lima wagons play well with them. I avoid ANYTHING by Bachmann. If you've got a wagon which keeps derailing and it has plastic couplings then check carefully to see if there's any moulding flash which might cause problems. It the couplings are metal the check that they're at the right height. After that I'd look at changing the wheels if they're plastic. Finally a bit of extra weight might help although sorting out the couplings and wheels usually does the trick. ATB Paula
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Paula, all good advice thanks. I also prefer the older larger coupkings
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Paula, all good advice thanks. I also prefer the large couplings , less realistic but a lot more reliable!
@DrGerryD
@DrGerryD 3 жыл бұрын
This modeled an end of line station and town, if this plan would be in the middle of a rail line what track would be the through track, the one close to the station? Also using this plan, if you were to add a turntable and engine facility, how would you do it? personally I like the plan a lot. It could very well fill a problem area on my next layout.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Yes the through line would be the line by the platform. An engine shed turntable etc would need a longer board and another point to fit in
@lazyrrr2411
@lazyrrr2411 3 жыл бұрын
17:32 UTC ✊
@MattyP62618
@MattyP62618 3 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in making a shunting layout, but I also love watching my trains go round. Could you do a combo of a run round layout & a shunting one like that? Not something I've really seen before, but I really like the look of this layout!
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
I like both too. If you had enough room it would be quite easy to have both, picture this layout as part of a loop
@ivovanzon164
@ivovanzon164 3 жыл бұрын
You can have a look at this layout: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pK-EdZZ_362wgmg.html&feature=emb_title A shunting puzzle designed to be used both as a separate unit and as part of a larger modular layout. With an Arduino for driving and sound
@MattyP62618
@MattyP62618 3 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways yeah that's not a bad shout, though that's the problem; having enough room. Might try & have a go though, plan a shunting layout like that inside a 1st or 2nd radius loop...
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it should work nicely as a through station
@mikefrombournemouth2942
@mikefrombournemouth2942 3 жыл бұрын
Matty P shunting layouts are a great way of unwinding. Mine is based on the inglenook shunting game, with the ultra reliable little Ruston shunter. .
@gregoryhale2202
@gregoryhale2202 3 жыл бұрын
Great video with an interesting shunting layout. Just one suggestion :- the line where the man is standing on the platform could be a small wagon longer. My only disappointment was you did not show your Fiddle Yard. Cheers Greg.....PS Short videos are the way to go. Anything over 15 minutes I watch in two parts or whatever is required.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg, I will show the fiddle yard next time
@keithpenfold9151
@keithpenfold9151 3 жыл бұрын
Really nice layout - wish I waited and seen yours before doing mine! By the way where did the red coal truck come from?
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Its taken me about nine plus shunting layouts to get it right for my needs! The truck is a Base Toys model bought second hand from classic rail
@chorlton4
@chorlton4 3 жыл бұрын
Very good looking plan here Mike. What did you use for a baseboard?
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
An off cut of 20mm ply from a skip
@sailingschooners8668
@sailingschooners8668 Жыл бұрын
Would you find shunting easier with Bachmann trucks? Couplers being different ?
@tonyjewell8141
@tonyjewell8141 2 жыл бұрын
Just found this one, really like this layout and will be using the design for one of my own - one question, what radius points are you using? Keep it up, I've watched most of your videos and really like your approach
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I always use standard short points, preferably peco insulfrog if I can
@NTSCuser
@NTSCuser 3 жыл бұрын
Station pilots often derailed in real life, as the photos in my local newspaper at the time can testify.
@andrewfrancis5332
@andrewfrancis5332 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video as always 😁👍 is there a track plan for this layout as when building my new layout in the loft would like to encorpararete this in it ? keep up the good work 👍
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Its in the first video if that helps
@southjersey10
@southjersey10 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered about BMR track plans. I tend to stop their videos and grab a pencil and sheet of paper and draw what I see.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
I do try and film and explain and it will depend on how big your board is
@PaulGarwood
@PaulGarwood Жыл бұрын
Hello I like your arrangement with the layout you have, please do you have a track plan I could download?
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways Жыл бұрын
Sorry the layout got sold a long while ago, I don't draw track plans as I tend to just play with track until I get what I want. There are a few videos on this layout and I think the first one shows the plan quite well if that helps? I also use whatever track I have including stuff no longer available so it would be impossible to do a track list. Sorry
@christinerobottom9444
@christinerobottom9444 6 ай бұрын
Lovely layout what size req in o gauge without the backscene thanks in advance.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 6 ай бұрын
Hi, it would be over 4 times bigger in O gauge
@samweavers2661
@samweavers2661 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, fantastic videos as always, just wondering have you made a video of your coupling/decoupling device? If not how Did you make it? Happy shunting 🚂 lol
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Yes there is a video showing how it was made using a mini torch!
@samweavers2661
@samweavers2661 3 жыл бұрын
Brill, thank you, I will Have a look and try and make one for my layout. Keep up the great work 👍🏻
@davidsheriff8989
@davidsheriff8989 2 жыл бұрын
Having watched this quite a few times, I wonder is there a de-coupling piece of track?
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 2 жыл бұрын
No careful editing lol
@dmulders5347
@dmulders5347 3 жыл бұрын
Like this
@raymondgawthorne6570
@raymondgawthorne6570 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the whole video on your favourite shunting layout. How many points are required & how many power links are needed to run all round please?
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but this layout is long gone, it should be possible to work out points from watching the video. There were only two power feeds, one on the entry and one for the kick back sidings at the end of the head shunt. Power is switched and isolated via the points
@ahirschfeld1974
@ahirschfeld1974 3 жыл бұрын
When did BR run mixed goods and passenger trains up until? Was it up until the infamous Dr. Beeching cuts of the early 1960's?
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Actually in limited numbers right up to the late 70s. I have even seen a picture of br blue grey coaches with goods wagons.
@ahirschfeld1974
@ahirschfeld1974 3 жыл бұрын
Wow didn’t know those mixed trains lasted that long in the UK. There were very few examples of mixed trains here in the US up until recent times. One example was one run on the Georgia Railroad up until the early 1980’s that had a passenger coach on the end of a freight and it only lasted that long because of some state regulation or tax break they got from the state for running a mixed train. The Burlington Northern ran a mixed train up until the early 1970’s down the Deschutes River Canyon in Oregon that was popular with fishermen and hunters because of certain areas that were only accessible by rail.
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks
@MrNoUsername
@MrNoUsername 3 жыл бұрын
Is it ok to have manual points (Insulfrog) on a layout you intend to bring to a show/exhibition?
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
We have exhibited three layouts with manual points. It will depend on what the organisers want
@philipgreenhill1853
@philipgreenhill1853 8 ай бұрын
Hi me and my girlfriend are doing my own railway layout in 00 scale but I want to make a country road and grass let me no how I can do this although I've been doing train layouts for years now I still get a bit stuck.let me no
@warpriest561
@warpriest561 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, just a question but, what Is that that white poled handover thing on the middle line inbeween the cattle and crane? Im new to the train modeling world and ive got one and its doin my absolute heading because i don't know what it is or what its for
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Its called a water crane, its too re fill steam locos water supply. They were filled from water tanks that could be a distance away, so are great for a small layout. Mine needs to be a bit further down the track to be realistic
@warpriest561
@warpriest561 3 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways cheers
@warpriest561
@warpriest561 3 жыл бұрын
Actually bud we got the wrong end of the stick its got a arc over track line too... Sorry
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
@@warpriest561 , ahhhh. Ok that's a loading gauge, they put them after goods yards to make sure the loaded wagons were not too high or wide for any bridges or tunnels on the line
@warpriest561
@warpriest561 3 жыл бұрын
@@BudgetModelRailways ooohhh cheers buddy! Makes sence now hehe, keep safe, keep up the good work 👍
@NixTrains
@NixTrains 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed watching. I too don't mind the hand of God. Rather than spending hard earned in stuffs like couplers, even point motors- unless the point is unreachable for the hands... 👍
@NicholassTrainChannel
@NicholassTrainChannel 3 жыл бұрын
wow a lot of opperating potential for what is such a small layout how is your N gauge layout comming along?
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
On hold at the moment, too many projects too little time!
@paulbrennan3760
@paulbrennan3760 3 жыл бұрын
Where would you suggest the best place to pick up good deals on oo 4 wheel coaches or wagons is at the moment please Mike?
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Give classic rail a ring, although not on his website he usually has loads of them and his prices are good
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, have replied to your eBay message, OK to everything
@paulbrennan3760
@paulbrennan3760 3 жыл бұрын
Budget Model Railways thanks Mike. Looks like I have a new shunting layout to play with 😁
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, great thanks. I will look you out some wagons. Mike
@foxhillrailway2252
@foxhillrailway2252 3 жыл бұрын
i always put the video on whilst playing trains lol
@philipgreenhill1853
@philipgreenhill1853 Жыл бұрын
Hi iam philip and iam doing my own layout like yours in n scaleand I like your layout me and my girlfriend are doing my own railway layout .what do you use to do the road hill let me no
@philipgreenhill1853
@philipgreenhill1853 Жыл бұрын
Hi philip here again can you let me no how you did your road hill
@daviddoughty9366
@daviddoughty9366 3 жыл бұрын
I have being looking at your website for a while now and see lots of updates on the work you do but hardly any actual work been done, why is that
@thiruraj3866
@thiruraj3866 3 жыл бұрын
The loco bumped the flatbed on the other point a bit
@BudgetModelRailways
@BudgetModelRailways 3 жыл бұрын
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