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@PatChatGC2 жыл бұрын
100% true. My spoken french & english have gone down a lot over the past few years. Yet my understanding has *not* gone down whatsoever. The way I see it, what happens is that what you've acquired stays acquired; but your active vocabulary might decay, and your mouth muscles slowly stop being used to moving in the ways the specific language has them move.
@FilipP882 жыл бұрын
Completely true, happened to me also when I started focusing more on learning Chinese But it's much easier to get it back and still worth learning a new language so I'm happy
@sacrinarose2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad other people in the comments have this happen with their NL too, I thought I was going crazy...
@shotakonkin20472 жыл бұрын
This happens even to your native language whenever you take your main focus on a second language more than your first though of course this is the case of someone keeping themselves in that second language for some time, keeping themselves in that other culture. There's been cases of people forgetting most to completely of their native language after adapting to this new language once they've hit a point of near native to native level understanding; of course this process is much slower for your first language. I was a hyperlexic child so my case is very much different; hyperlexia is practically the opposite of dyslexia for anyone uninformed, the challenges from having hyperlexia are different. My reading in general tends to far surpass my listening even in my native language.
@Dani-zy6cf2 жыл бұрын
I can speak Portuguese, Spanish (my native language) and English, now that I'm learning Chinese my Portuguese and Spanish ability has decreased, it's kinda crazy.
@justalameusername17362 жыл бұрын
My English I getting worse and my native language too, I'm forgetting words all the time and formulating sentences is getting harder. I think I'll read a least one book a year in my NL lmao
@nigelcarruthers3352 жыл бұрын
I try to make sure to at least watch an episode from a show or listen to a podcast, even if I'm really busy that day, just to make sure to maintain my level. I'll also continue to read books, watch shows, movies, and listen to audiobooks I already know really well and love. Then it never feels like I forget all that much if I don't actively study.
@oojiman2 жыл бұрын
Thats the best way to go isn't it just making it a part of your life like that.
@rudolfaerofare26832 жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned this, it's indeed a very real thing, and a reason I never begrudge polyglots who know many languages. ^^' Noticed this for some time with my native language of Afrikaans, actually. It's my mother tongue, I hear it and speak it on a daily basis, but it's worse than my English because I don't give a damn about improving it. But of course once one knows a language to a very high level, as you confirmed with your Japanese, you can never, ever forget it. The foundation is permanent. One can get rusty, for sure, but it'd be much easier to reclaim a memory rather than to have to form an entirely new synapse.
@williamadams71362 жыл бұрын
If you don't use it, you lose it.
@pethaudiddorol2 жыл бұрын
Languages this, acquisition that… Drop the skincare routine!!! 😩💀 love the content though!
@oojiman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro 😂😂
@user-mz2kb5mw1d2 жыл бұрын
hey man, another interesting video. In your first few years of Japanese, how much time were you putting in for active listening/ anki/ reading per day? I've seen your 3 year update, but did u make a 6 or 12 month update? Also, do you think this phenomenon could happen with your native language if you stopped using it? Thanks
@oojiman2 жыл бұрын
Yeah nah i only made an update vid after 3 years lol. But yeah nah for the first year I did like 4 to 8 hours of active listening immersion depending on the day and too many hours of anki. But after the first year i stopped using anki much then after 2 years i stopped completely. I basically never read cos I wasnt interested in it all the reading ive ever done has been websites, text messages, yt comments, twitter and some physics and maths books. Also yeah this can definitrly happen with your native language if you stop using it. It has happened a lot with Grandmother from Slovakia since she has lived in Aus since she was 17
@GothicPurple8 ай бұрын
This literally also happens in your native language. Try isolating yourself for a week or two without talking to anyone or really hearing anything in your native language (or at all). When you begin talking with people again, you'll notice you use a lot less fluent speech for the first day or so. You'll obviously still be understandable, but might have "tip of your tongue" moments a lot or stutter a bit. It all comes back to you though since you were just a little rusty. It's a lot like speaking when you haven't had much sleep, comprehensive, but not as colorful as normal. On a similar note, this is why polyglots often have words "on the tip of their tongue" more in every language they speak compared to those who are only mono or bilingual.
@undeadc0de1992 жыл бұрын
Do you know of any Japanese counterparts on KZfaq to Jeff Chan, Gabriel Varga, etc? (Martial arts technique stuff.)
@oojiman2 жыл бұрын
Martial arts technique stuff is actually somewhat hart to find i reckon if you are actually looking for good quality information but the boxer Hiroto Kyoguchi has some good vids on boxing techniques kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qNFippaasracaJc.html
@undeadc0de1992 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks mate. Great content too, keep it up.
@oojiman2 жыл бұрын
@@undeadc0de199 thanks mate!
@undeadc0de199 Жыл бұрын
I ended up finding more interesting practical stuff by searching for 極真. The delivery can get weird but there are things I've been able to apply on the pads. Also, hey, more immersion.
@Nighteye882 жыл бұрын
I definitely agree with this. A little separate but I find when I'm tired I speak like total crap no matter what. But, when I'm tipsy or drunk everything just flows. 😆
@matthewmuckleroy67182 жыл бұрын
It’s my dream to be trilingual and this phenomenon is disheartening sometimes haha. I’ve been grinding away at Japanese for almost 3 years and my Korean ability has gone down by like 50%. I’m moving to Japan soon so maybe things will change.
@justalameusername17362 жыл бұрын
Were you fluent in korean before?
@matthewmuckleroy67182 жыл бұрын
@@justalameusername1736 I was about halfway there. I think if I was fluent, the shrinkage wouldn’t have been as fast or significant. It feels more like I could deadlift 415, but then I started doing distance running and can only lift 315 now or something. I’m also an overtime student, so I just can’t make the time for 2.