My Long Experiment to improve the seal of the plastic lid of C&D tins

My Long Experiment to improve the seal of the plastic lid of C&D tins - The Solutions (part 2)

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5 ай бұрын

During 5 months, I measured the water content of three C&D tobacco tins with three different seals (A Silicon Disc, B Saran Food Wrap, C Kilner insert lid) under the plastic lid. Here’s the results and Happy IPSD my’ol mates too 😄😉
My channel and all my videos are not monetised. The intro music for the intro and exit are from The KZfaq Audio Library, linked below:
• Harpsichord Fugue
Links for viewers:
1. My video about sealing C&D tins…exploring promising ideas (Part 1)…… • My Long Experiment to ...
2. Kilner seal inserts (without the jar and the screw lid cover)…..
www.amazon.co.uk/Pack-Replace...
www.smartuk.net/preserve-jars...
3. Silicon sheets….. www.amazon.com/Ochoos-Silicon...
4. Saran food wrap…. www.amazon.com/Saran-Premium-...
5. C&D Corn Cob Pipe Christmas tobacco….. www.smokingpipes.com/pipe-tob...
6. Pork Roll Piper KZfaq Channel…. youtube.com/@porkrollpiper?si...
7. Darryl Weart Piping & Camping…. youtube.com/@darrylweartpipin...

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@fredmarrano5228 5 ай бұрын

Brilliant Lester!! Well done. Quite a helpful experiment for the entire YTPC community!! Thanks you! Cheers😀😀🙌🙌🍷

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thank you kindly my dear Fred 😊👍👍 I hope its help those want to store tobacco in their tins for some months. I hope you had a happy and smoky IPSD as well 😄😉💨💨💨

@paddypiper 5 ай бұрын

Hello from Canada! I have to tell you that I benefited greatly from your pipe filter analysis! As I mentioned in the comments section on that video, I purchased two Irish Seconds (Sherlock rejects), where 9mm Peterson filters are too big to fit without the application of signficant elbow grease! Well, based on your research, I purchased three boxes of Vauen Dr. Pearl filters and they fit like a glove!!! So to anyone else who purchased Irish Seconds (specifically Sherlock pipes) and you are having issues with filter, Vauen Dr. Pearls are the solution!!! Thanks again Lester, and Happy IPSD to you and all your subscribers! (...and pipe smoking lurkers too!)

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Glad you found solution for filters for your pipes 😊👍👍 A few facts and measurements…shine light on the problems…and then…your confident to navigate to find a solution 😊 Well done my‘ol mate 😉 Greetings from Switzerland🇨🇭 to Canada 🇨🇦 😄 Have a smokey IPSD my friend as well 😄😉💨💨💨

@oldandintheway1955 5 ай бұрын

Hiyas Lester, It is nice when the simplest, least expensive fix works the best of all 😊 Thanks for all the scientific testing and results, a fun video to watch. Happy IPSD to you ol' mate. Gary

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Gary my‘ol mate 😄👍👍 Yes…Saranwrap…is the practical solution…I‘ll still my Kilner insert lids…if I need a few months more for storage. Have a great and smokey IPSD my friend 😄😉💨💨💨

@oldandintheway1955 5 ай бұрын

BTW, I did join the PCoL on your recommendation. Just waiting for John Green to post my picture in the "New Members" page. I did mention to John that it was your reco that stirred me into action 😊

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Well done Gary! Have fun with the Zoom…and now…you are member of a London Club too! 😊👍👍😉

@oldandintheway1955 5 ай бұрын

I'm so very pleased, thank you for recommending it my dear ol' mate.

@dannyfoxworth3113 5 ай бұрын

Happy IPSD me old mate!!! Hope you have a great one Lester!!

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Same to you my‘ol Danny 😊👍👍😉💨💨💨

@samiam3297 5 ай бұрын

Fantastic experiment(s)! I yell Eureka on you're behalf! YOU ROCK! 🤘😔 Happy IPS Day!

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thank you my dear Sam 😊👍👍 I hope these solutions help ytpc to have options to store tobacco in the original tins 😊😉💨💨💨

@OWP-YTPC 5 ай бұрын

Very fine laboratory work, Lester! I think you and I are kindred spirits when it comes to science. Beautiful pipe as well!

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thank you kindly my friend 😊👍👍 Science put light to understand the anatomy of problems…then…you find options for solutions….without curiosity and science…we humans will be in caves 😄 Have pleasant and relaxing smokes on this coming weekend my‘ol mate and greetings to your horse too 😉💨💨💨

@yusufsayed1583 5 ай бұрын

Good Evening 😊 Happy IPSD 🌬💨💨 Awesome Experiment👌🏽 Hats Off Mate 👏🏼👏🏼 Have a great day 🤗 Love ❤ Hugs 🤗 Blessings 🙏🏽 From South Africa 🇿🇦

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

My dear Yusuf…thank you my’ol mate 😊👍👍 You too….have a smokey…IPSD as well 😄😉💨💨💨

@samiam3297 4 ай бұрын

Three cheers for Hungary...Hip Hip Hooooooooray! Hip Hip Hioooooooray! Hip Hip Hoooooooooray!!!!! Welcome to the fold (its just steps away) may as well start loading the celebration pipes! And filling the winning dramms!!!!! 🎉🎊🎉🎊🍾🥂🥃🧋🍷🍸🎉🎊🎉🎊 Hey some has to be happy with yall ✌️😋

@sandrofazzolari8833 5 ай бұрын

My dear Lester, since you are a scientist 🧑‍🔬 with a Ph.D. we expect nothing less than a data driven analysis that may actually help store tobacco longer than the original seal, or once the seal was open, or for the medium term after opening etc. My simple advice is open as many tins as you want until you have a nice rotation. Then jar everything and alternate things regularly until you finish your opened tins. Then repeat 😮😅 If this fails, then write our dear friend Janez for advice. 😂 Happy IPSD and hope you and La signora are well. Cheers my dears 🥂🙏

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Yes my dear Sandro 😄👍👍 Good advice….but….I smoke slowly my tobacco….so my rotation is slow…I need several months….to smoke 5 tins in my rotation…so a medium storage seal is good for me 😉 Happy and a smokey IPSD my‘ol Sandro…and have a fine grappa too 🥃 😄😊💨💨💨

@The-man-with-the-many-pipes 5 ай бұрын

Hello Lester ! Happy IPSD, very nice experiment. Greetings from ❤️‍🩹👋🔥☁️☁️

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thank you Günther my’ol mate 😊👍👍 Have a smokey IPSD for you too 😄😉💨💨💨

@BrodyJoeandBriars 5 ай бұрын

Great session, Lester! Very interesting! I hope you're having a wonderful IPSD, brother! 😊

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thanks! You too my‘ol Brody 😊👍👍 Have a great and smokey IPSD my friend 😄😉💨💨💨

@backcountrypipe 5 ай бұрын

Great experiment Lester. Thanks for sharing your data and experience. Happy lPSD Regards Mark

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thanks my friend 😊👍👍 I hope it helps for tobacco storage….have a smokey IPSD my’ol mate too 😄😉💨💨💨

@henryfonda300 5 ай бұрын

Hello My Friend Happy I.P.S.D.! Another great video as always. Wonderful information that all of us can use, I'm sure. Cheers!

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thanks again my‘ol Henry 😊👍👍 Yes…I think everyone could use these solutions 😊 Have a smokey IPSD my friend 😄😉💨💨💨

@PiperX1X 5 ай бұрын

Hello there Lester I saved this for this evening and an interesting video too thank you for sharing it with us and Happy IPSD my old pal.

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it my’ol mate 😊👍👍 Have a smokey IPSD my friend as well 😉💨💨💨

@theccpiper 5 ай бұрын

Very fun to watch. Thanks for your time in doing this test.

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching my‘ol mate 😊👍👍 Now my tobacco rotation is safe in tins for months 😄 Have a smokey IPSD my friend 😊😉💨💨💨

@michaelcase8574 5 ай бұрын

Happy IPSD Lester! The scientific method applied to loss of humidity and it's preservation in collared pipe tobacco. I would expect nothing less from you Lester! You could always use the belt and braces method and use the silicone or jar lid along with the cling wrap. LOL! A fun and helpful exercise my friend!

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

You’re right my dear Michael 😊👍👍 Combinations are even better…someone suggested using teflon or parafilm outside on the plastic lid…but yes…you could a silicon seal with Saranwrap….if its fits….maybe 0.3 mm silicon sheets are better for that than 0.5 mm that I used 🤔 I hoped C&D will offer a special lid on SP.com with a silicon seal for a few $…then everyone has a easy solution. Lets see if they react…My friend have a happy and smokey IPSD as well 😉💨💨💨

@TruckinPiperBob 5 ай бұрын

A legendary science experiment 😊

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thanks my‘ol Bob 😊👍👍 I hope it offers options for ytpc how to store longer..in those tins. I look to prove methods…even some know it works…now…everyone has the proof…with confident solutions 😄😉💨💨💨

@armchairpiper 5 ай бұрын

Happy IPSD. Ed

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thank you my’ol Ed 😊👍👍 You too have a smokey IPSD as well 😄😉💨💨💨

@Pfeifenraucher_der_Insel 5 ай бұрын

Hola Lester my friend, very interesting experiment with a lot of work behind it. I have very good experience with the wrap solution. For a long time with a combination of wrap and teflon tape from the outside. It works very well for a year or a liitle bit more. Best wishes from the island 🌞🏝. Michael

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Michael my‘ol mate 😊👍👍 I‘ll use the the wrap and teflon outside…every month counts 😄…Thanks for that tip too…have a smokey IPSD as well my friend 😄😉💨💨💨

@darrylthehorntoadpiper 5 ай бұрын

Well thank you Lester for trying our (B) suggestion on the tin seal! Me myself am always looking to saving the tins for the tin art. As you mentioned in your video . Tin art is great and is a shame to throw it out because we can’t keep the tobacco fresh. I truly enjoy you channel Lester over hear in the South West desert colonies.😉🤣🤣👍👍

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

My dear Darryl…thank you for giving the original solution…you‘r e streetsmarts and your experience gave the best, practical solution…well done my‘ol mate 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😊 Thanks again for watching my channel too 👍👍 Watch out for the Apaches and Komanche‘s too…those desert states on the frontier…can be…treacherous outside the fort…but…you have High Chaparrals 🌵 to navigate there 😄😆😉

@watch1949 5 ай бұрын

Never thought of using the canning lids on CD and GL Pease cans! Very helpful!

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching my’ol mate 😊👍👍 Yes….with help of the seal…they hold the moisture in the tobacco very well 😊 It gives pipers options to use these tins for a tobacco rotation for months 😊 Have a smokey and happy IPSD my friend 😉💨💨💨

@JC-rw3tb 5 ай бұрын

You're the best! I will use solution B!! I didn't even think of that way.😊 Thank you for your valuable experiment! Happy IPSD, Lester!

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thanks my‘ol JC 😊👍👍 Solution B is easy and cheap…hard to beat…but I‘ll still solution C with Kilner insert lids…for storage over 6mo for my….long tobacco rotation cycle 😄 I hope you had a happy smokey IPSD my friend as well 😉💨💨💨

@ukpipeandcigar 5 ай бұрын

What a useful & helpful experiment ! I too have a few C&D tins in my rotation but smoke them sparingly due to the customs costs, and like you, I like to keep them in the original tins to see the artwork. What I do is wrap the whole tin in cling film, and then put that in a ziplock bag. This seems to keep it from drying out for about a year. I’m going to try your brilliant idea of the Kilner jar lids in addition to my usual practice-might get it to last years that way. Best wishes Pete

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful my‘ol Pete 😄👍👍 I will use the Kilner jar lid insert…for storage over 6mo…but…less than 6mo…the Foodwrap is good enough and simple and cheap 😄 Have very pleasant smokes my friend and a restful weekend coming up soon 😊😉💨💨💨

@josegolfpiper8342 5 ай бұрын

Thank You!! for doing this Great experiments!! Take Care..........Jose from Texas

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thank you too! My my’ol Jose…my friend 😄👍👍 I hope these solutions are useful for ytpc 😊 Have a happy and smokey IPSD too 😉💨💨💨

@PipeAndAPour 5 ай бұрын

Brilliant stuff and insights Lester! It’s almost like you had some idea what you were doing?!?! 😂 I’ve used - with pretty good success - some press-and-seal plastic wrap on glass jars without a sealing ring and some tins. The press-and-seal has some adhesive on one side that creates a nice seal. Not sure of the long-term success, but worked pretty well in a pinch! Thanks for putting in the effort to investigate this! Cheers to you mate!

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thanks my friend 😊👍👍 I‘ll look at that product Press&Seal…sounds perfect too to seal tobacco 😊 Have a pleasant relaxing smokes on this coming weekend my‘ol mate 😄😉💨💨💨

@ParsimoniousPiper 4 ай бұрын

Quite a clever experiment.

@RedcoatsReturn 4 ай бұрын

Thanks Ethan my friend 😊👍👍 I hope perhaps….these options help ytpc using original tins to store several months for their tobacco rotation 😉💨💨💨

@brianquilty687 5 ай бұрын

Really enjoyed this experiment Lester.

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thank you Brian my‘ol mate 😊👍👍 The captions are on on this video…maybe KZfaq corrected the problem 🙏🏻 Anyway my friend….have a relaxing pleasant smokes….if you store tobacco in open tins…you know the options to seal it…now 😄😉💨💨💨

@bobwallace6812 5 ай бұрын

Thank you your quick response. When I get. A new tin, I take a picture of it print it out and attach it to the small Mason Jar. That 😮way I can preserve the tin. It I open a tin it seems time gets away from me and 6 monts to a year can creep up on me☹️ But anyhow I don’t have to worry about the date.

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

You‘re right…of course..I mostly jar up my tobacco…my rotation gets frequent attention…usually I smoke all those tins within a few months…have a smokey IPSD my‘ol mate😉💨💨💨

@bobwallace6812 5 ай бұрын

Mr. Redcoat, why don’t you just jar the tobacco in a Mason Jar, that is used for food storage?. Thank you again for another great enjoyable video.

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Bob my’ol mate😊…I do that for long storage over years…my target was to find a medium storage for under a year…using the original tins…I put them in my smoking rotation…if I smoke the in 6 months it saves a bulky Mason jar…here in Switzerland…they are cost twice the price in US…However I use this method for only my rotation…maybe 6-10 tins of different tobaccos 😉💨💨💨

@chuckmoss7414 5 ай бұрын

The patience of time: Good job on this one. Your effort is both interesting and informative. But the age old question: Can tobacco be too dry or two wet, and how does all of that affect taste. I don't know the best answer to that. I tend to prefer my tobacco more dry that moist. Each to his own. Keep on keeping on!

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Yes, absolutely my‘ol mat Chuck 😊👍👍 Its a personal choice to smoke dry or wet or medium…no right or wrong…each to its own….you‘re right. For me…it depends on the tobacco….Intend to the higher moisture for aromatics…but…lower moisture for EBs. However…each tobacco is an experiment….sometimes I dry aromatic a bit more…like Brigadier Black‘s Waterloo. The pipe has an influence too…for me….experiments are fun….to find the sweet spot…for...repeatable….pleasant smokes😄😉💨💨💨💨

@renatovacis8114 5 ай бұрын

Buona sera LESTER la musica col CLAVICEMBALO VERY NICE grazie di aver condiviso i vari metodi X tenere il tabacco più che efficente quello con la pellicola trasparente lo terrò presente.Gentilissimo un SALUTONE aTE e se mi è permesso anche a MIKE FROG e TOAD.BUONE PIPATE 💨💨💨🥃👍👋CHEERS.🎹🎹🎹🎯

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thank you Renato…my dear friend😊 Glad you like the Harpsichord 👍👍 The wrap is most practical, cheapest way to keep the tobacco moisture right😊 Yes I like Mike…and Toads and Frogs too 😄😉💨💨💨

@renatovacis8114 5 ай бұрын

GRAZIE LESTER BUONA SERATA.🏉🇮🇹🏉

@Gspitaletti 5 ай бұрын

Loved this research Lester, very interesting. I would like to know if the factory tabaccos got preservatives on it? There is any sort of test I can do, such some drop of chemicals that change the colour in presence of silica. I presume is silicate that preserve food , I'm probably wrong. I'm saying that because I planted tobacco and I pressed , the tins which I haven't vacuum depressurised end up growing mould. Same conclusion came from a tabacco farmer in BRAZIL who clam his baccy has no preservatives, he said he can't make plugs or flakes for same reason. I tried one of his blends and was very green pure however not nice like European and American blends.

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Giulliano 😊👍👍 Well…nicotine helps to preserve tobacco…mostly for insects. All crops around the World usually use crop protection for fungus, insects and unwished weeds. When I jar my tobacco…I use boiling water…10 minutes…to sterilise the jar and the lid…I wash my hands…and jar it up quickly. As the jars cool…a partial vacuum is created. I have never had mould on my tobacco. Using chemicals is not a good idea…when heated…those chemicals can be toxic. Silica gel…absorbs water vapour….its not a fungicide. The trick for flavour in tobacco…like meat…a bit of ageing…and…avoiding mould. Even the professionals have the same challenge…a few years ago C&D had a problem with mould. The spores are in everyplace…you have to work clean…especially putting the tobacco in tins and jars. Some factories used UV light to suppress bacteria and mould…but boiling water works for me. I hope this some help Giuliano…though I‘m not an expert 😉💨💨💨

@Gspitaletti 5 ай бұрын

@@RedcoatsReturn thank you Lester ;)

@dartusi_galgos_italianos 5 ай бұрын

Great work, I would only say that the quality of the saran film as you call it seems not very elastic for me, I think a little better quality film will do a better job. Great video and research, thanks

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Well said my‘ol mate 😊👍👍 I used Swiss Tancan food film from the large Migro supermarket in Switzerland. I assumed similar quality of Saranwrap in the US…as two viewers said it works very well. You‘re right…if there a choice in supermarkets in your country…get…the better quality of foodwrap film. Thanks for mentioning this point 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 and thanks for watching to 😊😉💨💨💨

@PaladinPiper 5 ай бұрын

The time when a PhD in Chemistry is put to GOOD use! 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁🤣🤣🤣🤣🤗

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

😄😄 Thanks Pat m‘ol mate 😊👍👍 Those street smarts tipped me to test Saranwrap…can‘t beat Streetsmarts over Booksmarts 😄😄 Still…I‘ll use the Kilner jar lid insert…for storage of over 6 Months…Thanks to you my friend…for your great videos…I watch every one 😊😉💨💨💨

@martincrook7522 4 ай бұрын

Very interesting. Had you considered a control sample with just the lid to see how much improvement you gained?

@RedcoatsReturn 4 ай бұрын

A good point Martin 😊👍👍 For me….the control was the experiment Part 1….without…the additional seal…under the pkastic lid. That experiment showed after 6mo…30% of the moisture was lost. Part 2 showed…all additional seals….lost only

@joseluismanzur1973 5 ай бұрын

Hello Lester my friend interesting video y will try option number B and its so cheap.What do tou think about a mix between A and B??Thank you very good work and we need that tip.😂😂😂

@RedcoatsReturn 5 ай бұрын

Thanks Jose my’ol mate 😊👍👍 Yes…there could be combinations…even better to seal the tins….but the plastic lid needs space to clip well on the tin…I think today I would 0.3mm sheet of silicon to make the disc…but its a compromise…to make a reusable disc…if its too thin…it could wear a hole. Another combination…is to use one of A, B or C…and seal the plastic lip outside with parafilm or teflon tape. Again…this takes more time…and…you cannot use usually the tape or parafilm again. I was looking for a inexpensive, simple, reusable seal under the plastic lid. I will use solution B and C…and gain more experience with them. Happy and a smokey IPSD to you Jose my friend 😊😉💨💨💨