Haha!

😅

You are so correct...

But Land Rovers are still more fun to drive than a sterile, characterless domestic appliance Toyota.

And like fate... one of the Aftermarket pipes blew at the weekend, less than a year old. Going back to Land-rover OEM as they are much better quality and not hugely more expensive.

Thanks Simon!

just buy a pair of the real pliers for them , a tenner and saves a lot of messing about , in fact get two pairs as obviously Callum needs a pair too.

He fancies her

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What people forget is that a Range Rover is a big complex vehicle that cost a lot of money when new. If you buy one with little service history that’s 10+ years old, you can expect to spend a load of money on it. When they’re in good shape there’s little on the road to touch them though

@@hughmarcus1 that’s exactly what I keep saying, great vehicle but it’s big, heavy, complex, if looked after there great, if not maintained they can empty your bank.. same as any big car merc s class, Audi a8, 7 series etc.

or hose clip

Mole grips

Went the old ones two loops off wire and a bolt through, tighten the bolt tightened the wire, unlike the worm screw and steel band of jubilee clip, think they also fell out of use as they used to cut in deep, ok on soft metal but not great on rubber.

​@richard9789 More modern cars are using a spring metal band hose retainer. You loosen them with special hose band pliers, to locate on, and grip the two uneven size tags. You can use pliers, or Molegrips, but they tend to twist off the tags.

@@brianwhittington5086 yea iv noticed that, cheaper than jubilee clips I’d imagine and once on are secure, not got round to getting special pliers yet so still use water plump pliers on them, sometimes bit awkward but always managed. My post was in reply to @Howard Lake saying what was used before jubilee clips came along, I’ll seem to think it was the one with two thin wires that wrap around hose and essentially a small nut and bolt built in that then tightens the clip.

@richard9789 Yes, you're right about the double wire and loops type Richard. They tightened with what is usually a long slot head setscrew, with a free, or captive nut, and that screw often twists or snaps with age. They fell out of favour as the separate wires could often cut through hoses like a knife, even crushing internal reinforcement in the hose. They would often twist and distort so only one wire put pressure on the hose, so a flat band makes more sense. Having spent years in the motor industry, I've actually seen examples where that type crushed a thin line that allowed deterioration from inside. It then ballooned the hose, and it blew off, leaving the wire clamp and severed end in place ! The spring band type looks to be the culprit that due to misplacement, cut into the adjacent hose on Lucy's car. They do weaken in time if they're removed too often. The idea is good, and the male and female ends that lock into the pliers, making it easier to retain grip when fitting in awkward to reach locations. Yes, waterpump pliers are a good substitute to the proper tool, but a strong new clip will launch itself across the workshop if they slip.🫢

@Snoopy 😂

Definitely. You’ll not have to fit them again, provided you use decent jubilee clips.

They're not that bad

The legend says he got payment in kind

You're right there. I'm a Brit and, although JLR aren't really British anymore, I still kind of think of them as a little bit British and would love them to be well made. It has always infuriated me when they make fundamentally decent vehicles and then make such basic design errors like having hoses too close together! I was once a squaddie and it was the same with the Defenders. Strongly built solid chassis, engines etc. and then let down by things like flimsy switches in the cab!! 😡😡😁.......I think I'll just stick with my 2008 Toyota! 🤣

@@simongray2533 until it rusts. 😉

@@hughmarcus1 Well 14 years and no rust yet! 🤣🤣

​@@simongray2533Toyota are amazing work horses. Used by the UN and numerous freedom fighters around the world. Whenever there is TV footage in war theatre, in the background there'll be a Toyota. That Land Cruiser is practically indestructible. I do love that short wheel base Defender they make in Slovakia though. I'm a Brexit refugee living in Brussels. When I get my freedom of movement back by becoming a Belgium national i might treat myself to one 😂😂😂

Some right rubbish talk on here Toyota no better than Range Rover,most of the people that come on here have prob never owned one ,just easy to slag them off,

Smooth mate...

@@lewisbrown51 im a little farty charmer

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