My Week with the 2022 Toyota GR86

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2 жыл бұрын

I spend a week with the 2022 Toyota GR86 Premium with the manual to see what it's like to live with. I also compare it to the old Scion FR-S I just drove and also to the 2022 BRZ I just had for a week. I was really impressed with the 2022 GR86 last year when I reviewed it on the road and track, but now after living with one for a week, is it just as good? Mostly, although I did uncover a few minor annoyances, but nothing that would be a dealbreaker. Cliff notes- this is easily one of the most fun cars under 30k you can buy. What do you think about the 2022 Toyota GR86? Thanks to Toyota for providing this GR 86!
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@hi7man5 2 жыл бұрын

I sold my GR Supra and picked up one of these and have had no regrets. The gr86 is the most enjoyable car i've ever owned. Everything just feels so right. The power is just enough to be satisfying and the engine revs up to redline so smoothly. It loves being high up in the rev range. The car is stiff but not harsh, it feels like its already on nice coilovers, although it isn't and I just ordered some to put on the car. Gas mileage isn't horrible, averaging around 30 but I mainly drive highway. This car is my daily and I'm driving about 5k miles a month for work, and it's been completely livable. There is no other car in the price range i'd rather have.

@sunnyvalentino 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. would you mind sharing your driving impressions of the Supra vs the 86? I'm considering one of them in manual (Supra Manual coming soon). I came from a modified Mustang GT, was amazing but hard to push on the street safely and the steering was numb as hell.

@hi7man5 2 жыл бұрын

@@sunnyvalentino the Supra is faster, cooler, more comfortable, sounds better, and is just nicer overall. But it’s definitely more numb and feels more like a GT car in comparison to the 86. The Supra is ideally for someone who wants a cool street car but doesn’t care as much about raw driving experience. I prefer the 86 over the Supra, it’s lighter, a lot more agile and is just a very satisfying car to drive. It’s addicting and it doesn’t really get old. It’s definitely meant for someone who really enjoys to drive. So it just comes down to what you prefer in a car. If you want power and to have presence on the road then go Supra. If you want to feel connected and just really enjoy driving the hell out of your car then go 86. Id also say 86 over Supra any day of the week if you want to track your car. That being said, I had an auto Supra. Not sure how the manual Supra will change the way the car drives.

@sunnyvalentino 2 жыл бұрын

@@hi7man5 thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts. A cool fast street car with lots of presence and sound/character was my Mustang GT in yellow and unlike the Supra it also had loads of room for my kids stuff and was a great GT car. The numbness of the steering and the front heavy feel (which I don't think the Supra should have with its 50 50 wt distribution) and snap oversteer killed it for me. I'll try both out but I am leaning towards the GR86 based on what you and Matt are saying. The fact that the GR 86 is tempting Matt to trade his Bullit in for the same reasons I sold my Mustang is interesting. I also have a place in the line for the GR Corolla and Bronco, I'm a bit of a Yota and Ford fanboi. 😆

@sunnyvalentino 2 жыл бұрын

@@hi7man5 apparently Toyota is making changes to the steering and chassis of the manual Supra. Let's see. Love the blue color they announced.

@kc510 2 жыл бұрын

Do you think a manual in the Supra would change any of your takes?

@timephire 2 жыл бұрын

Somewhere SubaruWRXFan is smiling... (Like in this video strangely) ;o)

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

@mojojoji5493 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattMaranMotoring :)))))

@arkadiusw.897 2 жыл бұрын

Love the "no nonsense" approach of your reviews!

@aaromon43 2 жыл бұрын

i love how you pointed out the smaller things most channels have missed, like the lack of a 12v plug for radar detector or dashcam, cords pinching in the armrest, etc.. still an incredible car for the money though, damn.

@lilrockstarrs 2 жыл бұрын

Love seeing you in another 86/BRZ Matt!! Brings back the old days 🥳 would love to see you get one of these with your Bullitt one day!

@timothycoyne5874 2 жыл бұрын

Great review. Thanks for pointing out the good, bad, and differences between this and the BRZ.

@seeingghosts 2 жыл бұрын

That color is awesome. Really like the red stitching in the BRZ.

@veefource 2 жыл бұрын

Very much looking forward to the back to back comparison with the ND! Thanks Matt 😀

@amrocko 2 жыл бұрын

Did a back to back with a 2015 FRS and 2022 BRZ several weeks ago. Spot on about the lumbar support in the FRS. New seats are much more comfortable.

@851995STARGATE Жыл бұрын

Also compared to my old FRS in the GR86 everything is just way more refined, it's basically how it should've been from the start, way more tech and practical too

@DailyDoseofLucy1 2 жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this one! :)

@91Pulp 2 жыл бұрын

I subscribed after your Z video and I've been waiting for this video in particular since you mentioned the GR86 in your Z video. Really hard to want to extend myself for a Z when this beauty exists for significantly less.

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for subscribing! The Z is a little more fun, but definitely not $20k more fun in my opinion.

@harisqureshi7469 2 жыл бұрын

Ah, brings back good memories. Beautiful car, great video Matt!

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Haris!

@gregholman2930 2 жыл бұрын

WoW!..That Toyota Definitely Is Already A Classic & Belongs In My Seven Car Garage!...Luv The Color, It's Perfect For That Vehicle, It Pops!!..CHEERS!

@thundering_fox 2 жыл бұрын

This is my exact trim, 2022 Neptune Premium and it's an absolute joy to drive. The color is just beautiful in-person as well.

@daphnec9561 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos ! Always look forward to them

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching them Daphne!

@pistolpete6321 2 жыл бұрын

Great insights, super informative and makes me want to buy one!

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Pete!

@31186dan 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the details. Small things like storage, power outlets etc. these are hardly talked about on most videos. I’m waiting for my Toyota dealer to bring one of these in so I can buy it!

@klasseact6663 2 жыл бұрын

I think the new 86/BRZ's look incredible 🔥🔥 I'd love to flog one on The Tail of the Dragon but certainly with "adult tires" though. These cars have had their issues addressed and the skies the limit with mods, whether it's mild or wild👍👍 Great review Matt and be careful listening to that little voice inside your head telling you to trade in, trade up🤔

@devn3813 2 жыл бұрын

I’d way rather have my N

@justinstewart3248 2 жыл бұрын

Funny seeing you drive around the local Pittsburgh areas, I always know the roads you are on!

@CarGuy11 2 жыл бұрын

Sweet I’ll be getting this car next week! Excited as it’s one of my choices for next sports car for the channel!

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

Nice! Have fun!

@Ill06Taco 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you pointed out the audio playing. I work in used cars and every Subaru with that system does it and it's soo annoying

@nintendoatarikiller 2 жыл бұрын

I run a dashcam and radar detector and having the 12v in the glovebox is a great idea. It gives you a place to hide the cables

@tvm2209 2 жыл бұрын

Great video brother!

@hellogellojello 2 жыл бұрын

Now THIS is a proper sports car. Toyota😍😍

@B702K 2 жыл бұрын

I have a deposit on a red premium, manual. Still waiting. Really looking forward to it. Great review.

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats, it’ll be worth the wait!

@JF-ns5zs 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Matt

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@johnkeltner6501 2 жыл бұрын

Bought a base model ‘22 with the Primacy tires, and can confirm they make the car a “handful” in the rain. Swapped them out for UHP A/S Conti tires within the month.

@kev60625 2 жыл бұрын

would you say its dangerous? I ordered a 22 base model

@JetskiMike 2 жыл бұрын

I have a base halo. The primacy tires are hazardous! they are dangerous tires when put on this car

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

I drove this car with the Primacy tires on track, it's definitely playful if you push it but I definitely wouldn't consider it dangerous. It's still only 228 hp and they still grip fine if you're not driving aggressively. If I was ordering one of these I'd definitely go for a base trim.

@gigatron2008 2 жыл бұрын

They suck. So many better AS tires out there.

@gigatron2008 2 жыл бұрын

A good medium for not wanting Michelin ps4s is the Firestone Indy 500s. I have them on both s2000 and Civic Si. Primacy are absolutely terrible tired I’ve had them on a 8th and 9th gen Si. Poor traction in wet and dry. Indy’s are very cheap and last a decent amount. They definitely slide but predictable. Street use I wouldn’t recommend for track.

@aroundomaha 2 жыл бұрын

I've taken over 100 autocross runs in the BRZ and never felt snap over steer. But I have the factory camber bolts and am running 245/40R17 RT660 tires. The mirrors DO block visibility. I fold them in for autocross but with I could remove them when on course. The price is outstanding. My BRZ "Premium" was under $29k and that is great in 2022 when a used Miata will cost you more. I do have some buyer's remorse at not buying a Miata though since it is so whimsical.

@zkseries 2 жыл бұрын

I heard the mpg is relatively bad because the manufacturers gave us the aggressive and short gearing that we want in a sports car rather than lengthen the gear ratios to get better ratings. Which is something that deserves applause!

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

I agree! I just don’t understand why the gearing hurts the EPA test procedure if the real world fuel economy is still so strong even with the short gears.

@bubbleman2002 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattMaranMotoring The EPA hates fun. The same reason that automatics are given a huge advantage in noise levels tests.

@zkseries 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattMaranMotoring likely some outdated measurement techniques i can not say for certain though

@zkseries 2 жыл бұрын

@@bubbleman2002 it has something to do with automatics being able to accelerate without downshifting whereas the manuals have to start at a lower gear and go much higher in the rev range. there were articles about the new z and its automatic being louder than the manual for this reason regarding the testing techniques

@pkennethv 2 жыл бұрын

@@username8644 For Porsche the reason is actually noise regulations because the test stupidly requires manual cars to be in 2nd gear at 30mph (or some speed I can’t remember exactly) with the accelerator pedal floored. Of course in reality, if you wanted to be quieter, at the same speed, you would just use a higher gear. hence why PDK has shorter gearing because there is no “car must be in 2nd gear” requirement, instead the automatic car is allowed to be in whatever gear the computer chooses. Jason Cammisa (as well as Matt Farah, to a lesser extent) talks extensively about this misconception of long gears in Porsche manuals being due to fuel regulations, when it’s actually about noise. If it was about fuel consumption, then it would be about having a taller 6th/7th gear or final drive ratio. Instead, the problem with Porsche manuals is a 2nd gear that goes to 130km/h because they need to keep the engine rpm in 2nd gear low at the required speed for the noise test.

@alexrain1188 2 жыл бұрын

This is a perfect video. I have an FR-S and have been back and forth between the GR86 and BRZ, AND wondering if it is even worth the upgrade. Thank you.

@davidbugarin 2 жыл бұрын

Ahhh this is such an beautiful car! I have a 2019 GTI Rabbit in cornflower blue, and it’s outstanding! But I would still also love to have this exact GR86 Premium you’re driving here. Funny enough, my GTI is visually the same as this GR86. I had a 2015 FRS for a few years and it was such a blast to own. So yeah, I do miss the experience of this platform at times (RWD coupe vs. FWD hatch), but there’s no substitute for the practicality of a GTI, with a more premium interior as well. I’d love to have them both in my garage😜 As always, I enjoy watching your videos Matt👍🏼

@kc510 2 жыл бұрын

Considering ditching my 17 GTI for something rwd. Love that car though.

@davidbugarin 2 жыл бұрын

@@kc510 both are fantastic cars. If you don’t need an actual backseat, 4 door, all-around perfect “daily” driver, and you’ve never owned a lightweight RWD sports car, I’d say why not?! Go for it. The thing I miss most is how tail happy the FRS was and how I could easily get sideways when I wanted. Plus there’s something special to be said about this newly updated NA engine vs a turbo charged engine. But every time I look at my GTI and I get into it, I immediately remember how much I love and appreciate it. You can’t go wrong either way.

@EdLo. 2 жыл бұрын

great review!🙆

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Holtdahooligan 2 жыл бұрын

Nice! Thanks for releasing this review. Getting me even more hyped for mine. Still waiting for my allocation to come up after 3 months so far...

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

It'll be worth the wait!

@yowadup1000 2 жыл бұрын

Even though it’s “cheaper” the markups on the 86 are way higher(at least around my area) I got the brz limited at msrp

@A-GoldenBar 2 жыл бұрын

Thank goodness I ordered mine in halo white premium manual.

@doriangray2347 2 жыл бұрын

that removable holder thing was fantastic. i like the closed thing more though, but it was super smart. I also always used the front tiny slot for the key, or some other readily useable object. I would always put my E-Z pass thing there. i never attach it to windows, i keep my interiors pristine and just toss it on the dashboard if near a toll. I am considering one again. BRZ top model. I will have to put in a brake system though. I had a Performance Package. Sadly, none exist now. Needs it bad. 2017 with PP was king.

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty confident that they'll offer a Performance Package again at some point to keep the car fresh.

@JoseMedina-gf4cu 2 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to the Miata review and comparison, having a tough time is deciding between the 86 and RF. Both are great cars

@milesfathi 2 жыл бұрын

In Canada at least the RF with the BBS and Brembo package is like 8k more expensive that the premium gr86. I found it very hard to justify that. Also I found the driving dynamics of the GR a bit more serious which is how I like it. The RF is more of a toy and way more easy going in my experience, which has its own charm for some.

@NoMarkUpGil 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2020 RF miata, no complaints 👌🏽

@paulitik7 2 жыл бұрын

I was leaning RF for a while, but this is almost $7k- $10k less than an RF Club, and as hard to get.

@artagain8977 2 жыл бұрын

The RF will be way more reliable.

@austinmurph9248 Жыл бұрын

Do you want a usable trunk or a convertible? Thats the biggest difference I’m seeing but im kinda biased because my 23’ 86 come in less than 2 weeks

@bobbyDD Жыл бұрын

im ordering this exact car as soon as the dealership gets back to me and oh my god im so excited. 6-9 month wait but plenty of time for me to save a ton for mods and to put a fat down payment on it. those matte black wheels on the neptune look WAY better than I thought they would.

@uncleiroh8665 Жыл бұрын

congrats brother! premium or base?

@JDMRightHandDrive 2 жыл бұрын

The GR86 would be my choice as well. I like the look of the car better and the Neptune Blue is calling my name. I think I will buy on after I finish paying off my 2022 WRX off!

@RNMAutomotiveAddiction 2 жыл бұрын

Looks great in this color.

@Daveyboy_GolfR 2 жыл бұрын

That Neptune blue paint on this gr86 is stunning. I'm considering getting one, but don't know if the Neptune blue might be a bit too loud after a while. But wow the car looks so good. Way better than the BRZ

@williebrown1974 2 жыл бұрын

I'm at 29.2 combined mpg right now in my manual 2022 BRZ. Pleasantly surprised to say the least.

@aroundomaha 2 жыл бұрын

I did an autocross on Primacy tires and it was FUN. It wasn't fast but I realized why the tires are attractive. Very progressive and predictable when driven 10/10ths.

@JetskiMike 2 жыл бұрын

it rains a lot where I am. I had to get rid of the Primacy tires asap. scary when wet

@aroundomaha 2 жыл бұрын

@@JetskiMike I plan to get Continental all seasons by autumn. Both the Primacy and my RT660s are white knuckle driving in hard rain.

@timbrown9731 2 жыл бұрын

I had a squeaky seatbelt receiver also on my legacy when I first got the car the dealer claimed it was the lower seat track and they replaced it under warranty however a month later it started doing the same thing so I tore into it and found out it was just the seatbelt receiver sprayed some lithium grease on it and from that point on for eight years it’s been quiet lol

@scottanthony3426 2 жыл бұрын

Note re the hill holder clutch. You said the FRS didn't have this, but it was added to some of the first gen models at some point. I have a '17 BRZ Limited and it does have the hill holder as a setting that you can turn off. (Granted, it is like a video game cheat code to do it, requiring a sequence of steps rather than a simple "on/off" toggle.)

@ybrz_edng 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another nice review! Toyota dealers in my area make it a no-brainer to pick BRZ over the GR86 with crazy markups, so I am probably going that route. Was the suspension settings differences between the BRZ and the GR86 pretty noticeable? Curious as it was one of the main points that Subaru emphasized (their suspension settings being different from Toyota's, making it a more comfy daily).

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

They both felt pretty much the same to me as far as ride comfort. The GR86 just was easier to slide a bit.

@ragweedmakesmesneeze 2 жыл бұрын

Matt's impression that the 86 is easier to slide matches what other reviewers have said. I think this comes down to different spring rates front and back between the twins. I think it's also worth noting that I have heard that in colder weather the shocks don't work as well, which might have contributed to Matt's impression that the BRZ wasn't as progressive a handler.

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting, I hadn't thought about the shocks being firmer in the cold as the explanation for the snap oversteer I had in the BRZ, thanks Marc!

@ragweedmakesmesneeze 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattMaranMotoring I THINK we can all thank Savage Geese for raising this point in one or more of their videos. Co-presenter Jack I think was specifically complaining about this point in his recently purchased 86.

@xtnuser5338 2 жыл бұрын

Spring rates, damper settings, and even slight differences in alignment geometry can contribute towards the differences described. If you think you would ever do coil overs, wheels/tires and an alignment...then you could make either of those cars feel however you want. As a track guy who would be changing that stuff anyway, I wouldn't consider the small differences in driving dynamics of the OEM setups as part of my decision about which car to get.

@kevinryan2992 2 жыл бұрын

After 4 months of ownership of a '22 BRZ my only real complaint is still the stereo. I really wish they wouldn't have put in bargain bin audio components

@DavidRider 2 жыл бұрын

Ah felt good hitting that 999 like button and making it 1,000

@OrionInception 2 жыл бұрын

The GR86 is definitely the car I'm getting...in Neptune Blue or Red.

@NeeoDroid 2 жыл бұрын

Haha reminds me of the old time Heyy what's going on, SubaruWrxFan here for another car reviews:)

@strategic_1223 Жыл бұрын

Kinda crazy I’ve been watching you for about 10 years. Started out when you were Subaruwrxfan

@beexiong2995 2 жыл бұрын

The old 86 FRS was a true homage to the toyota sports cars. The body lines resemble then 2000gt. Even the interior was designed to look similar to the 2000gt. Nobody appreciates that about the details of the FRS 86.

@leom00n79 2 жыл бұрын

Can you review the automatic GR86 too please

@joshb488 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2020 Toyota 86 that supposedly has a hill hold feature, but the dealer needs to turn it on.

@leom00n79 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Matt, will you be reviewing the automatic in the future ?

@billlyle8539 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Matt! I'm sold. Just building a garage for it now as that car deserves some shelter! I'll be sure to watch your upcoming ND3 Miata video just in case but I don't think its going to sway me away from the GR86. Keep up the great work! 😁👍

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bill!

@milesfathi Жыл бұрын

You can disable the radio autoplay through the gauge cluster actually. Weird place to make that change.

@Ezero8 2 жыл бұрын

I love that KZfaq's captioning says "What's up everybody, Batman here" 😂

@nintendoatarikiller 2 жыл бұрын

I'm amazed your buddy has a bone stock. pre-facelift FR-S. Getting rare to find one bone stock.

@tynivinnie Жыл бұрын

Hey Matt, GR86 or 2019 Mustang GT (non-bullitt)? I am having such a hard time deciding. Thank you!

@NCLme 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like all you need is some tofu 😂👍🏿 brings back that Good Ol’ AE86

@uncleiroh8665 Жыл бұрын

Euro beat intensifies

@CruiseControl1 2 жыл бұрын

I love the Neptune Blue GR86 Premium. Dealerships told me it's a 6 month wait unfortunately. I agree with the Porsche Cayman reference or maybe a more apt comparison would be a modern 944.

@OrionInception 2 жыл бұрын

Damn that's one of the colors I'm interested in. That's a long wait. Did you order?

@CruiseControl1 2 жыл бұрын

@@OrionInception I love the color and yes.

@sawyermartin4434 2 жыл бұрын

@@OrionInception unless you live in Canada, you cannot order. Toyota does not offer an order process of any kind in the US. It is dealer allocation only.

@OrionInception 2 жыл бұрын

@@sawyermartin4434 that's false. My coworker placed an order with no issues.

@sawyermartin4434 2 жыл бұрын

@@OrionInception No, he or she did not. They may have told you they did, but they didn't understand what they were doing &/or their dealer was being dishonest with them. I work for Toyota & can assure you they absolute do not offer an order process for consumers.

@mrch33sehed93 2 жыл бұрын

Reading the intro caption: Me: Batman drives a blue GR86?

@pierre-richardromain6708 Жыл бұрын

Hey Matt! Great review like always. I heard there are issues with the GR86/BRZ involving silicone that may seep into the oil pan. What are your thoughts about it? I really want to buy it as a 2nd car. Is it a big big problem?

@MattMaranMotoring Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I honestly haven't even heard about this issue, but if you buy one you could always get an extended warranty if you're worried about it happening after the standard powertrain warranty is up. The last generation was pretty reliable from what I've seen so I wouldn't expect this version to be much different.

@pierre-richardromain6708 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Matt! I'll look into it

@uncleiroh8665 Жыл бұрын

@@pierre-richardromain6708 its blown out of proportion. unless you’re tracking it every single day, then you have a 1% chance.

@pierre-richardromain6708 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your reply. I really like the GR86.

@Daveyboy_GolfR 2 жыл бұрын

For someone who has driven manuals all through my teens and 20s, I never even knew about rev matching. Anyway, am I to understand that the manual BRZ has rev matching, while the gr86 does not?

@KarzKreated 2 жыл бұрын

Auto Caption says "What's up everybody, Batman here"... 😂

@Aurablade77 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Matt, the Miata you will be reviewing next- is it the ND3 Miata with the “Kinetic Posture Control” update they added for 2022? Thanks

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

It is! I didn't realize they were calling it ND3 though, I thought it was still ND2.

@Aurablade77 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattMaranMotoring I don’t know if it is officially ND3, but it is apparently updated with this posture control thing nonetheless :)

@kgthegreatone943 2 жыл бұрын

Man I want one so bad

@D-AVGGamer 2 жыл бұрын

The GR86 is fun but the chances of you actually sliding around is rare. The BRZ is better for actual canyon driving and track driving BUT the differences is so small, the majority of ppl who buy them will not notice the bc they can't drive 9/10.

@avery4528 2 жыл бұрын

It's funny how this car is designed to not snap with oversteer and it's sibling/competitor does. That is a complaint I've seen from reviews of the Supra that the Nissan Z seems better at. I wonder if we'll see changes with the manual transmission Supra in terms of driving.

@deet4895 2 жыл бұрын

I'm disappointed that the Corolla GR isn't available in this color.

@CruiseControl1 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@Ezero8 2 жыл бұрын

Especially when you can get a Corolla Hatch XSE in a similar color.

@deet4895 2 жыл бұрын

@@Ezero8 Exactly.

@Poolside_Chat 2 жыл бұрын

This is high on my list of next cars to buy. The comments about dailying this makes me second guess that. Yes it's a driver's car and would be fun but simple things like no arm rest if you have a drink with you (which I almost always do) and nowhere to put your phone? I always have it plugged in for Apple CarPlay but I'm not going to keep it in my pocket when plugged in lol. Would love to hear people's thoughts...

@thecarpod3574 2 жыл бұрын

🙏🏻🔥

@MrRez86 2 жыл бұрын

I think the 86 look better anyways...looks sweet in the front.

@twistedsanity623 6 ай бұрын

This or a 370z? I sold my 16 gt86 because I wanted something more practical but now I miss it. Would probably get another sport car soon but torn between the GR86 (which will be more expensive than the 370 because of dealer markups here) and a slightly used low mileage 370z.

@sandstudios2288 2 жыл бұрын

where are people finding these at msrp ?? i look online and only see them for $4-5k over msrp everywhere

@SlowDriverSean 2 жыл бұрын

How would you compare it to a 981 cayman on the street and track?

@D-AVGGamer 2 жыл бұрын

Got lucky, called a local dealer in socal and was able to put a deposit down for one that is coming in 3 weeks.

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats!

@Jawz_345 6 ай бұрын

Is that MPG actually 18? That sounds super low for a 4 cylinder. I drive a 2014 charger rt and I’m getting 14-15 which is low but I’m doing city driving

@timothye5936 2 жыл бұрын

Nice…I got the brz, and I don’t notice the mirrors; they’re way below eye height

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

Congrats! You must be taller than me haha they’re eye-level for me.

@avery4528 2 жыл бұрын

A Mazda naturally aspirated inline six sport sedan would kill in today's premium market space. Combine the best of this car with an E46 330Ci and throw in that upcoming skyactiv-x technology.

@xuimod 2 жыл бұрын

The Japanese are coming out with so many great, relatively affordable sports cars. The ICE era is ending with a bang.

@jralphroman 2 жыл бұрын

The auto playing music is in iOS thing I don't have that kind of issue with Android

@tedsmith2186 2 жыл бұрын

Matt Maran Motoring - I'd be interested in your opinion of this vs the 2.0 Turbo Camaro. Both seem to be very good handling chassis. The Camaro is a little heavier, but has more power to compensate. I feel like they actually compete with each other, although they seem to appeal to very different audiences.

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

It's been many years since I drove the 2.0 Camaro and I haven't driven one with the 1LE package, but it still feels bigger and heavier along with having a higher seating position. The turbo motor also was pretty peaky, so it felt pretty dead until the boost came on. From my memory of the Camaro, the GR86 feels more responsive and natural, friendlier to slide and more enjoyable around corners. I still never felt like I needed more power in the GR86 so I don't think I'd personally care about extra power from the Camaro.

@tedsmith2186 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattMaranMotoring Thanks for your thoughts! What about the practicality and daily driver friendliness? I've seen the back seat and trunk of the new GR86. Is the Camaro much better or more comfortable?

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

@@tedsmith2186 I'd say the back seat is just about as useless as the GR86 and is the smallest of the 3 muscle cars. The Camaro trunk is significantly larger than the GR86 trunk though. You can see how they are in my Camaro reviews if you're curious.

@tedsmith2186 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattMaranMotoring thanks! I recently watched some of your Camaro reviews, which is why I was interested in your opinion. By the way, it's been fun watching your videos since I grew up in Western PA and still have family there. I kept thinking "those roads looked familiar ..."

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

@@tedsmith2186 Haha that's awesome! Thanks for watching the channel!

@alanchalkley8743 2 жыл бұрын

How many recall the recalls on this second attempt car?

@zzanatos2001 2 жыл бұрын

None of the Toyota dealers in my area are scheduled to get any GR 86s until this fall.

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

If you want one and are in RI, CT or FL let me know, I know of one available in a couple weeks.

@chrislo2007 2 жыл бұрын

im a type r owner and rented a 22 GR86 for a day and I want one now. Couple gripes I had are that the turn signal handle system kinda sucks and the sound system is pretty bad. Huge improvement from the prior generation though. Overall I will probably try to get one within the next year or two when the demand goes down once the hype jumps over to the Nissan Z/GR Corolla/Supra manual

@MKu64 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly the same for me - I test drive the BRZ and the stereo is bad and turn signal indicator arm is bad. Every other thing about the car was genuinely incredible. I had a blast.

@artagain8977 2 жыл бұрын

Your Type R is 10x more reliable then this!

@MKu64 2 жыл бұрын

@@artagain8977 Genuinely curious what makes you say this (I've had non-turbo Subaru's and Toyota's and reliability has not once been an issue).

@artagain8977 2 жыл бұрын

@@MKu64 the Toyotas I’ve owned have been reliable. On Subis; Bad cv joints, water pumps, excessive rust, engine noise and vibration to name a few. All before 60,000 miles. If people drive this car around at redline constantly, they’ll be adding oil once a week in no time. This is not a high performance engine. Simple boxer.

@MKu64 2 жыл бұрын

@@artagain8977 Interesting - I wonder if people had those problems with the previous GT86/FRS.

@gangstagoose4028 2 жыл бұрын

Have a deposit, first in line since December 2021. Still no luck :(

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

Good luck, it’ll be worth the wait!

@richardhoulton4016 2 жыл бұрын

The steering ratio is actually slightly slower 13.5:1 v 13.0:1 on the new model. I think the older BRZ had more feel than the new BRZ primarily because it was less boosted, but it may be the aluminium front knuckle adoption too. Not having driven the GR86, I’d be interested to know how the BRZ’s steering compares to the GR86.

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t really notice a difference in steering feel between them.

@richardhoulton4016 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattMaranMotoring Okay…that’s a bit of a surprise seeing as Toyota decided to forego the BRZ’s lighter aluminium front knuckles…and the most logical reason appeared to be steering weight. If it’s made no difference I wonder why Toyota didn’t take the weight saving?

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

It could be that the knuckles were just one component required for the overall handling feel they wanted, or it could be a cost saving thing that allowed them to come in slightly under the BRZ price. Not sure. It could also be that the change is so small that I missed it.

@ReaversRespite 2 жыл бұрын

To the value point: I haven't had any luck buying one of these for MSRP. Dealers are refusing to sell them without a 5k to 7k markup! It's infuriating!

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

If you want one and are in RI, CT or FL, let me know. I know of a black base model (manual) coming in a couple weeks that'll be available at MSRP.

@ReaversRespite 2 жыл бұрын

@@MattMaranMotoring Nice! Yes I'm in Florida, but was hoping for the top trim level (Is it Premium or Limited for Toyota?). Any info would be greatly appreciated!

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

@@ReaversRespite It's the base, the top trim is the Premium. If you're okay with the base model though let me know.

@Geo-Media 2 жыл бұрын

"Let's take it on this back road and see how it does....."

@timbrown9731 2 жыл бұрын

Well right now with ethanol in our fuel they’ve raised the amount at least out here in California it’s more like 17% ethanol and I’ve noticed a decrease in on my 3.6R I used to pull 27 mpg solely on highway doing about 70, now I get about 25…

@tonychau1983 2 жыл бұрын

Shit you guys are paying 6+ a gallon and its 1/5 corn

@timbrown9731 2 жыл бұрын

@@tonychau1983 😫😫😫😫😫

@Hyplum 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Matt great video as always. I have a indie car film called "Four Amigos" releasing in a few months. Would you be interested in checking out a private screener link?

@benlovejoy254 2 жыл бұрын

I will add that with the 86 you receive a free NASA membership for 1 year, a free HPDE ticket and 2 years of Toyota Care - all a couple bonuses to going Toyota on the Twins

@D-AVGGamer 2 жыл бұрын

But don't forget that if and when recalls and maintenance is needed, you have to go to Toyota instead of Subaru and the last time Toyota had to handle any recall issues for the twins, people had full engine failure after taking their cars into Toyota to perform Subaru replacement work.

@kavalere Жыл бұрын

Ordered Halo premium....6-9 months.

@kramer7026 2 жыл бұрын

Can you turn off the shift indicator chime?

@timbrown9731 2 жыл бұрын

I am so torn on what car to jump into either the new Z an 86 or BRZ, I don’t know if the GR Corolla will be obtainable Matt 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤨🤨

@tonychau1983 2 жыл бұрын

What does your wallet say

@timbrown9731 2 жыл бұрын

@@tonychau1983 40k

@timbrown9731 2 жыл бұрын

@@tonychau1983 i’m broke and it ain’t no joke 🤣

@tonychau1983 2 жыл бұрын

@@timbrown9731 i doubt you can get a z or gr corolla for that price but you never know. I know my cheap ass prefers the gr86

@wiggleweigel 2 жыл бұрын

Android Auto has an option to select to not Autoplay media, so this might just be Apple Carplay issue

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

This wasn't in CarPlay, this was just in regular Bluetooth audio streaming.

@BlackNAVYAmericanVET 10 ай бұрын

Gasket issues need to be addressed at manufacturing before I buy

@mrmackee123 2 жыл бұрын

In love with this car but South FL is asking $40k out the door for the prem models. I wont be buying anything for another 2 years :(

@MattMaranMotoring 2 жыл бұрын

I know of a black base model that's available at MSRP if you're interested. Just let me know.