Deadly Derek was an icon of World Cricket.

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Boycott is fulsome in praise of all great players, English or not. Underwood was great. Muesli was a cheat! They changed the rules to accommodate his cheating.

@@frankford1115 Agreed. I had the honour of meeting Derek at a village match last year. Lovely man. Sadly he has Alzheimer's but he can still reminisce about the old days.

the sri lankan threw the ball. Everybody knows he did.

@@frankford1115it’s funny that’s exactly the question I wanted to ask - was Muralis action legal according to the rules of the game because I for one couldn’t believe how bent his arm always looked - maybe it was all just an optical illusion 😅

Talking of English spinners, the truly remarkable Jim Laker took 193 wickets in 46 tests at an average of 21.24.

Yes, a pity that the purity of cricket ,from every aspect ,has been destroyed through the quick buck approach through advertising. Instead of the national emblem being the most prominent, it is now a priority to display the commercial emblem over the national one. It has greatly lessened my enjoyment of the game. Football has suffered the same fate, although football never had the poetic atmosphere. I cannot think of any poetry associated with football, whereas even an ex England fat bowler, John Snow, was a poet. John Arlott had a poetic turn of phrase whilst commentating and also wrote poetry.

Yes!

Many years ago, my local league side - who had a former Kent player as their president - managed to persuade Kent to bring their full A side down for a game in aid of Richard Ellison's benefit year. At the time we had a cocky but very talented youngster called John Stone. When he came in to bat, Derek was bowling; the great man took one look at this spotty youth and decided he ought to be kind, so he trudged in off a very short run. First ball, John hit him for an enormous six. Second ball, Derek off a short run again and thwack, another huge six over the pavilion. At this point Deadly decided he'd seen enough and went back to his full run. In he came and that was it, stumps all over the place - three ball innings, two sixes and then out!

Remember that game. Staggering figures for anyone never mind a 41 year old

Plenty of stories of how he became unplayable on 'wet pitches'. Ian Botham recalls a game he played in and said he was never so glad to get out! Somerset were nicely placed with 2 wickets down, then overnight the covers, which hadn't been fitted correctly, blew away in a storm. Somerset lost their last 8 wickets for 20-30. As you can imagine Somerset were not best pleased with the Kent Groundstaff!!!

I'd loved to have seen that bowling live. I remember seeing the headlines the next day in the papers 'Deadly Derek' turns the clock back with an astounding bowling performance!. The batsmen didn't know what to do - a lot of them hadn't played on a 'sticky wicket' before - and it was the 'old fashioned' type of Sticky wicket too - early September heat drying the pitch as the players were out in the middle. Derek could easily have played for England after his 3 year suspension ended. His age definitely counted against him - but think how much quicker that Edgbaston test of 1985 could have been over with him in the side! If Edmonds and Emburey got assistance from the pitch what would Derek have done?!

I watched that game, conditions were in his favour but what a bowler. RIP Derek.

Where is Geoff Boycott?

Great team. The only change I would make is Knott for Gilchrist!

I can't understand why everybody picks Akram over Marshall. Akram had a test wicket taking average of 23.62 but Marshall's was only just over 20 which is extraordinary. Marshall was an absolute destroyer, and the most clever of the great fastest bowlers - his ability to swing and seam the ball in all conditions was without parallel. I am certain the reason more people pick Akram is a generation thing - Wasim played more recently, so more people remember him as a great but for me, Marshall was easily the best.

@@Wally-H Akram is the Most Skillful and Complete Fast Bowler in History. He had it all from pace , bounce , Seam , Swing , reverse swing ability with old ball etc. And Akram is more Iconic and that's why he's there in above list which is based on Stardom and influential persona.

@@Ennis007 So you selected a player in the greatest eleven based on his personality, by which you mean because you liked him. Akram wasn't more skilled than Marshall.

He wasn't a leg spinner. Underwood was a left arm orthodox or more accurately a cutter who did at times bowl close to medium pace.

@@markhiggins8315 - I agree. His greatest strength was to drop it on a length time after time. He would tie up an end and frustrate batsmen out. Great bowler

In 1975, a summer not too dissimilar to the scorching 1976 summer, Derek took 67 wickets at an average of 18 - with best bowling figures of 7-44. Don't get succured into believing he was just effective on wet or uncovered wickets.

Underwood was utterly unplayable at times. And bowled at some of the greatest teams ever. West Indies, Ian Chappell's Aussies, you name it. And still took nearly 300 wickets at .25. And he went to WSC, which would have bumped him up to about 400! Which is as good as Warne has ever been. Deadly Derek indeed.

Check out the Lord's test match of 1974. The test was going along without much incident - then it rained! In those days the strip was left uncovered and by the time Pakistan came out to bat the wicket had begun to dry out. Pakistan slipped from 71-0 to 130-9 - Derek got 5-20 in next to no time from sharp spin and bounce. The wicket then lost its potency and England scored 270 all out. Pakistan batted a second time and just got into a lead when a really heavy shower fell. Again the pitch began to dry out and Pakistan fell from 192-3 to 226 all out as Derek bowled unchanged and, with enormous amounts of spin (Shane Warne esque type rippers) and bounce, had bowling figures of 34.5-17-51-8!! He was so unplayable when the wickets were rain affected. In 1986, at the age of 41, Derek bowled against Warwickshire and rain had accidentally seeped under the covers. At the end of the innings he had incredible bowling figures of 35.5-29-11-7!!

They're among my earliest memories of the England team. They were both great players. it's a shame they didn't play for Essex.

You are right they could have defeated any team in the world

@David Allan In one of his last seasons in first class cricket I remember a game against Warwickshire in 1986. The pitch wasn't covered properly and rain got on to it. The pitch dried out quite quickly because of the sun and Underwood became unplayable. In the end he had remarkable bowling figures of 35.5-29-11-7!!

I have read from cricketers of different countries who played with & against Barry Richards & they rated him a better batsman than Viv Richards.

@@glenporteous4438 Two completely different batting styles.

@@glenporteous4438 Don Bradman had Barry Richards in his all-time best XI and that will do for me. I watched him a lot at Hampshire and have never seen an opening batsman make batting look as easy as BR did.

@@boymeetsbush8232 Alan McGilvray the Australian commentator said the South Africans were that good, if it wasn't for Apartheid, they would have challenged the West Indies in the 80s.

The Greatest #XI of All Time 1 Jack Hobbs 2 Barry Richards 3 Don Bradman (C.) 4 Sachin Tendulkar 5 Viv Richards 6 Gary Sobers 7 Adam Gilchrist (W.) 8 Shane Warne 9 Wasim Akram 10 Dennis Lillee 11 Sydney Barnes 12th: Malcolm Marshall. Substitutes: ( W.G Grace , Brian Lara , Imran Khan , Muttiah Muralitharan , Fred Trueman )

You'd seriously select Evans over Knott? As Underwood is the topic here Knott's work behind the stumps was unbelievable keeping to Underwood on a wet wicket. The greatest catch I've ever seen a keeper take was one Knott took against Pakistan standing up to Deadly. Knott was a far superior batsman to Evans as well as a far more consistantly brilliant keeper. On his day Godfrey Evans was sublime but he could be very ordinary on other occasions.

MALCOLM MARSHALL was the greatest fast bowler I've ever seen. Definitely better than Wasim, in fact it's not even close.

Replace Stokes with one of yours (not Botham) and that is mine

Yes!

I have - RIP Derek Underwood

Aha - at 1.12, it looks like a normal orthodox left-arm grip/delivery.

No , I've always thought he has a leggie's action; the ball leaving the side , if not the back...of the hand .Very odd .

It's just because he's so young. He did tend to look pretty middle-aged by the time he was around 25.

It looks like Essex's left arm medium /fast bowler John Lever .

It's actually a couple OR three. Quite a common term in Yorkshire from a good few years back.

Boycott did not play in the Packer World Series Cricket. He voluntarily asked to be dropped from the England team between 1974-77 because he said there was a problem with his technique he wanted to fix. He came back into the team in '77 and remained until 1982, when he signed for the England rebel tour to South Africa, ending his test career.

@@Rhubba The gentleman was not saying boycott went to play for Packer, he was merely drawing attention to Geoff's use of the term "couple or three" by quoting what Boycott said during the Underwood appraisal. He had however misheard the term as a "couple of three" rather than what Geoff actually said. He was clearly amused by a phrase he'd not heard before.

@cocacolai..you didnt get the sarcasm and are talking about smartness

@CocaColai: Don't you get a sarcastic tone of his? Just look at the examples he gave: Sreesanth and Fernando. Lolz.

No it is not bowlers from Boycott's career, dumbass

Do you think they're better than Roberts,Lillee,Garner or Holding?

One of the great things about Underwood was the fact he was quite nippy for a spinner. On a turning wicket at his pace, he could truly live up to his name.

Boycott actually was selected for that tour. He chose not to go.

@@stevevince9680 oh I didn’t know. Thanks for sharing this information.

+peripheraldevotee94 Have you completely lost your mind? I can see it's very small; and so easy to mislay but really? Do you know ANYTHING about cricket history?

Let's go through my selections, then. First of all, my opening batsmen (a right-left combination, by the way) both averaged above fifty. Secondly, the key to opening partnerships is to get two contrasting styles of play to work in tandem - and Gavaskar, having been the lynchpin of India's batting lineup throughout his career, was no stranger to carving out an endurant innings. Hayden, conversely, was the only man who managed to break a scoring record set by Brian Lara, and provides a nice fire to Gavaskar's ice. Secondly, how in the hell could you have a world XI WITHOUT Bradman OR Tendulkar? Bradman's average alone is enough to get him into any side, and his record in the 1948 Invincibles tour earns him the captaincy. And as for Tendulkar, no man scored more runs at international level than he did, and an average of 53.78 over 200 Tests is nothing to sneeze at. Next, my all-rounders. Sir Garry Sobers, with a batting average of 57.78, has the second-biggest average in the side - not only that, but he could bowl both varieties of left-handed spin AND up to fast-medium pace, and was a good fielder anywhere on the pitch. And with Imran Khan, I have a right-arm fast swing bowler with an average of 22.81 - not to mention his 37.69 average with the bat. his captaincy skills gave his side enough confidence to secure ODI series wins (and drawn Test series) against the 1980's Windies side - and that effort earns him the vice captaincy. And as for the wicketkeeper, Adam Gilchrist would get into any side, no questions. He averaged 47.6 with the bat in a side where five of his teammates averaged 50 - and took the second-highest number of dismissals behind stumps in history. Finally, my bowlers. With Khan and Sobers in the side, I can afford to have two spinners. Warne and Murali, taking 708 at 25.41 and 800 at 22.72 with their leg-spin and off-spin respectively, would be ideal. And as for fast bowling, Wasim Akram was simply the best left-armer the world ever saw - 414 at 23.62 with his mastery of swing bowling - and Glenn McGrath was the best right-arm quick, with 563 at 21.64 with his fast-medium seam bowling. Kallis, who generally batted fourth and bowled first change, would make for great injury replacement if anyone in the middle order got injured. Sangakarra, who averaged 57 overall (and 66 when not keeping) is injury cover for the top three. Boucher, who overtook Gilchrist's dismissals record (but averaged only 30 with the bat) is the backup keeper, whilst Marshall (whose average of 20.94 is the lowest for any bowler with 200 wickets or more) is the back-up bowler. Now, I'd like to know what your side would be.

Who would you have then?

Good choices. Gilchrist is one of my favourite players, but in a team packed with so many top batsmen, I think you can argue that you can pick a keeper purely on his keeping ability. Gilchrist is without doubt the greatest keeper-batsman of all time, but is he the greatest keeper? I would opt for Knott, Marsh or Bob Taylor.

You could do that, I concede, and Knott and Marsh certainly were excellent keepers - as were Jeff Dujon and Ian Healy. As for me, I'd prefer a side which had every chance of repairing itself in the face of two or three quick wickets - and Gilchrist's 56-ball ton in the 2007 Ashes certainly stuck in my memory.