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Reject HD, go back to monki.

just when you think you couldn't nerd out anymore than where these guys take you

The plot of TeИet in a nutshell.

That sums up this video pretty well. I was very surprised this wasn't an April Fools Day video. This seems to go directly against everything MLiG stands for. RGB999: How to get a worse picture and aspect ratio from your games.

Are you referring to what's going on very noticeably at 36:59 (and throughout the whole video)? It was seriously bothering me and I came into the comments and didn't see anyone else mention it but you. If this is something the GBS is doing, then I guess I'm out, but wanted to make sure it wasn't just my computer/monitor.

The GBS seems to be expecting signals outside the normal YPbPr spec. (Keep in mind it was originally intended to convert arcade machines to LCD.) It's fairly easy to add a resistor without soldering to test the theory.

Thanks for your comment. Now I'm curious. Say if Coury didn't use the HDMI to Component transcoder, but instead opted to use VGA input (via a hdmi to vga transcoder/convertor), would these blips still be present? From what you're saying, this seems to arise from using component input. I'm looking to see if I can do some 240p downscaling into my PAL CRT over SCART via a DIY GBS Control (and a decent RGBHV to RGBs sync combiner on the output). I want to see what issues I may run into and look for fixes.

I've been having the same issue with my retrotink 5x pro. Is there a way to add a resistor to this without having to open up the device? Perhaps in one of the hdmi to component converters?

eehr those blips are super noticable. I couldn't game like that with them.... ?!

oh yeah!

I think it did improve the look of it. the Softer look helped mesh the textures better.

@@braddl9442 Fourtunatley the PS5 version seems to fix the textures

@@Powerman293 sadly.... its the PS5... lol jk

@@Powerman293 Yeah, seeing the drastically improved textures across all surfaces made it abundantly clear that SE just lowballed the hell out of the PS4's environmental texture res.

You took the words out of my mind. Especially the intro music. Holy hell it's so nostalgic and gives me goosebumps.

[Try4ce] Yeah that's sad too, but nothing that ruins any games. Three menu thing is a problem because it's during gameplay and the games are unplayable.

@@mylifeingaming I was honestly surprised when I saw it, I wasn't expecting it and I never noticed as a kid. Do any other consoles of that generation use 480i/p for their base menus?

Saturn has the same behavior in some games. I couldn't find a list, but Radiant Silvergun, Thunder Force V, Die Hard Arcade, and Dead or Alive all have sync issues from resolution switching.

I keep wondering if a solution might be for the renderer to actually "see" and respond to that signal in real time after every frame, simply composing it's signal with the blanked scan lines either odd or even based entirely on that real time measure instead of the current method which has to actively switch into semi-fixed "modes" of operation. In other words, it would be a 480p signal every time with the timing signal at the end of each frame telling the OSSC where to insert blank lines. I feel like if the processor could run fast enough to make that on-the-fly rendering, then it would "naturally" work without any notable gap where it was switching modes.

Yes true, although I'd never go this far myself as it's seems way to convoluted to even spend money on its still fascinating stuff.

It's already sold out. Do you know who I contact to try to get one?

For me it's both. But for example to buy all the interesting Saturn games ist top expensive. Only have the console with a mod. But i emulate many and even build an retropie arcade. But the original thing is fascinating for me!

Me too but I like to know the basis of what I'm emulating and what I should be aiming for visually. I like the compromise of clarity with some trappings of real hardware, like scaliness and extremely mild softening of the raw pixels

I used to talk such crap on emulators, because I was always picturing the bad ones who left a gross impression via audio, video artifacts. But emulation really has come a long way and it's q good backup or stopgap before I take the steep cost plunge of buying original hardware and putting in modwork.

@@axelkusanagi4139 crap?? i have all on Emulation too. But somethin in me wants the real deal... only sometimes. At least i want the original looking Controller for coming into the mood :D but on many repro Controllers the analoge pads are baaad. I have more emulation than physical games. 5 NES and maybe 11 or 12 SNES 1 Saturn and 4 Wii Games. This year it got an original Saturn. First Sega System i touched in my life!

Honestly, I don't think PVMs are worth it, at least not for me. There are plenty of good consumer grade CRTs just sitting around waiting to be trashed. My girlfriend brought home a 27" Trinitron that her coworker was trying to get rid of. Her coworker didn't understand why anyone would want a CRT television. This particular Trinitron has composite and S-video, and while I would have preferred component as well, I was shocked by how good the Sega Saturn looks even over composite. The colors and black levels are SO much better than my HDTV, I vastly prefer this set regardless of input used. 27" is my sweet spot. Anything bigger is going to be significantly heavier. I had a 32" Panasonic Tau CRT that I bought right near the end of CRT manufacturing, and while that TV had a great picture, it was literally 200 lbs and a pain in the ass to move. I ended up giving it away just so that I wouldn't have to move it again. Luckily, last year my work was getting rid of some old electronics including a 27" version of the same Tau that I had, so I got dibs on it. It's a true flat-tube TV with component input, a really great comb filter for composite signals, and something like 800 lines of horizontal resolution. The downside is that it's much heavier than the Sony, at nearly 110 lbs. But that's right on the edge of what I'm willing to deal with in terms of weight. My point being, I was looking into buying a 14" Sony PVM (20" was just too expensive and heavy for my taste), and while that might be fine for a desk setup, I decided that 14" was too small for a main gaming monitor. I like playing light gun games with my girlfriend, and a 27" is big enough for that. While a PVM will certainly give you a slightly better picture, I think the jump from going from an LCD flat panel TV back to a consumer CRT is much greater than going from CRT to PVM. PVMs are more of a pain to set up, they're heavier for a given size, and shipping one is a huge risk. With the Panasonic TV, I can plug all of my consoles in via component and get RGB-quality video without any of the hassle of actually using an RGB monitor. Just some things to keep in mind. For me, a PVM just didn't make much sense because I wanted a simple setup and a larger screen size, and the image quality of a PVM wasn't enough to justify the cost and hassle, especially when I had access to some perfectly good TVs for free. If you ask around, you'll probably find someone that has one that they're not using and will happily give to you. Even if it's a "crappy" set, just take it home and give it a try and you might be surprised by how much better you like it for older games.

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I happened upon an abandoned Sony Trinitron TV in an attic space. I hooked up most of my retro consoles using composite running through multiple AV selectors and splitters. I have the signal split to go to the Trinitron and an old Zenith portable CRT TV (what makes it portable is the handle and car adapter). All of my old games look significantly better on it and I cannot go back to playing them on a modern LCD monitor. There is one exception: To stream the games onto my capture card, I got an AV to HDMI converter with built in screen ratio settings. The icing on the cake was recently getting a Genki Shadowcast allowing me to play the games on my computer monitor and manage game capture software all on the same screen.

The real questions here

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Upscale that, capture and record to DVD. Capture it, encoding to Divx. De-noise and upscale to 8k. Downscale.

that's what I do sometimes. I line triple to 720p + scanlines and some games look really good. only downside is the aspect ratio squish

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@@technozombie789 I like that, that makes more sense

@@technozombie789 yeah I agree!

They deserve 1 million subscribers, like they put so much effort into their videos!

Is that so? I keep hearing about this but im worried about input lag from my nes mini to crt tv.

I dunno. Netflix has some diamonds in the rough. I know exactly what you're getting at, though.

My what a trendy thing to say

Unfourtunatley that would cost millions in R&D that'll never happen to get SED going again.

@@Powerman293 ...SEDs were simpler than LCDs at the time soo meh to R&D Balloons. IF anything CRTs have already proven that 1080p(rather high line res is more proper term) ETC is possible after all they exist OLEDs and Shit arent improving at all and the industry is hyper focused on the numbers of pixels they can jam into a display but we are getting to the point of minor to zilch for improvement the HD TVs of today are pretty much the HD tvs of 2006 the price went down. As it is Displays despite the "advancements" havent done shit at all and are still playing catchup with alot of feature lost from a CRT. People only can care about numbers soo much before losing interest entirely "oh bigger number its better but i cant tell 4k onward it all looks the same washed out but detailed" We are already seeing it slightly with smart TVs it has to do something innovative or be different like transparent displays otherwise customers dont care and enthuists already see past the marketing BS with colour and response being the factors that matter which we lead back to CRTs still reigning supreme in that category. SEDs were the best of both worlds and should be obvious path going forwards. Its only a matter of time now.

@@snintendog Take your meds

or just to use an 16:9 480p crt tv. i have one.

@@GraveUypo those process the signal digitally, iirc. that means lag is inherent to them

I don’t like the look, myself. CRT’s are meant for retro systems. I wasn’t impressed with KOF XIII’s picture in this video.

​@@chronology556You wasn't impressed with KOF XIII's picture in this video because it was downscaled, however the game looks absolutely great and beautiful on an HD CRT monitor (PVM/BVM) at a higher resolution from 480p and up.

[Try4ce] I used to have an HD CRT (a 36 inch 4:3 Sony version), but it was just too dangerously heavy to move or do anything with. Eventually I got rid of it so I could have room to do things with proper 15kHz CRTs. There definitely are perks to playing 480i or 480p games on an HD CRT, but even my first fixed-pixel 720p LCD TV from 2010 could show more detail in PS3 games than my HD CRT. I feel it's a technology that neither has the full benefits of analog or digital, and has a very narrow set of consoles that really shine on it. Just my opinion, though. I may have just resented the space it took up more than anything. :)

@@mylifeingaming Yes they do have a somewhat narrow range of consoles that can truly take advantage of them, but those that can look amazing. Where they really shine is when you track down one of the 16:9 models and can run stuff like OG Xbox games in widescreen. Now I can certainly understand the space and weight concerns. No arguments there that is for sure. I've got a couple of beast CRTs that top out over 200lbs myself. I get a new hernia every time I dust in the game room. XD

Why would Radiant Silvergun need this assistance? Its already in this format.

@@rickylovesyou The original on Sega Saturn is in this format, the Xbox 360 rerelease is not.