100% agreed. That mission was awesome. They way they announced Timelines I expected most of the missions to be on this level.

Exactly. Even text based where an option for me to handle that.

Ooh especially your second paragraph is spot on. I also had hoped for something like that. That's what I would have called "deep dive"... The basic idea was and still is awesome. A shame it doesn't get enough traction to really shine.

I'd rather if they just remade the early games in X4 engine with X4 assets. So same sector layout, same factions, same story, but don't change anything about X4 mechanics and assets, just treat it as a new start with a slightly different universe sandbox layout. Maybe do the same with Terraformer War. What they did instead is more realistic for the price I guess, but still disappointing. I'd pay full price for a remake of Brennan saga in X4 engine.

@@delayed_control I'd totally pay for the Brennan Saga, too

There are enough missions that all tie into one another they could have added a few more and turned each nodus into its own theme. One for racing, one for mining, one for Brennan/R Gunne -Terran histories-.....and another for the Paranid missions. Actually telling a coherent story through these as each mission would unlock more context as you went. The mining missions feature the same brother/sister duo in each of them for example. But they are disjointed and told separately across each graph. They have all the framework for what could of been a slam dunk of a dlc, but just didn't deliver on it fully.

Literally there are serval books with deep dive aspects also from other races, it was all already there to make it awesome. But at the and, X-players buy it anyway just to support that little team with that unique game.

@@milbobaggings1236 Happy to help :)

@@KamramBehzad that's what I suspected would happen to a new player... Thanks for sharing! Yes, the ships you fly in Graph 1 all have different loadouts. You can always save and try out stuff in the open universe mode. In ED losing your ship matters. In X4 you can just load your quick save and that's it. 7.0 is great though and waiting to start with its release is a good idea.

It is not for new players to fight with a ship that you didn't choose with weapons that you didn't choose for a battle that I need to pass thru.

@@BekoPharm one of us! One of us!

same! I did not have the necessary time to properly start it, my way!

That's awesome :)

Thanks for both halves. :) I had to buy that shirt the moment I saw it.

I liked the Amiga, but had the Atari ST myself.

@@SpaceDad42 ST was awesome, too. I never had one, though. Didn't own an Amiga, too. Always went to my friends and played there. But we had one of the first 286 IBM PCs. :)

@@dusk1947 yes, I also like the idea itself. The execution not so much.

@@greyraven666 good idea. Like make the first graph really easy and let people play for free. Problem is though that most people already are overwhelmed by the tutorials. So maybe the advertising effect would turn negative lol

@@firefrai Totally. They would have fared better if they'd gone with several related missions building up to climax in the according terminus. Most of the terminus mission really were enjoyable.

Sounds interesting. What do you think it was?

@@harag9 Thanks! They missed so many chances of telling a really good story... With just a few more cutscenes and narration everything would have turned out to be a lot more immersive and comprehensible. Why don't remind us who Kyle and Ban were? Why not tell new players? I don't get it...

The pathing still is quite janky, yes

@@stephenbright982 I'm quite sure we'll get an option to just activate the new sectors with a future update ;)

I agree. I am a long-time player and even for me some were very difficult. I'm not sure how people see this as a great place for new players to start.

​@WatchMysh I sure hope so.

@@esprit101 average Timelines experience 🙈

Based ;)

@@misterp9880 Kommt hin. Welches Space Game der letzten 5 Jahre würdest du denn storymäßig als Paradebeispiel hernehmen? :)

@@WatchMysh everspace 2 z.b

@@JasonSnow-zq2ve Yes. Could have been the opposite, though. I had the impression they've put all of the effort into creating an Immersive story driven experience at a higher level than the story aspects of past DLCs... Well... my impression was wrong. :D

@@zhoupact8567 base game is discounted 70%. The timelines bundle 50%. Both are 49,99 regularly.

OP is accurate. I noticed at launch that Egosoft disabled the ability to individually buy the X4 base game from both steam and gog. Thereby forcing new players to buy (at minimum) the Discovery Pack with both X4 and Timelines. By discounting timelines less than the discount on the base game, and requiring players to buy both, all new players (and gifting players) were forced to pay more than had they been allowed to purchase just the base game. Days later, after the poor reception of Timelines, they reenabled base game purchases. Truly baffling behaviour by Egosoft. *Smh.* In my view, the X4 base game is INCREDIBLE value, even at the inflated price, but by (underhandedly) removing player choice to increase unit price by a few dollars, what they achieved was to sour the initial experience of players who might otherwise have enjoyed the game and felt really good about paying that same price. The very players who would have gone on to buy more and more expansions. I say this from personal experience. I played X3 years ago, have over 1,000 hours in X4, and am certain I'll play at least 1,000 hours more. To this day I continue to buy expansions and upgraded editions I don't even play because Egosoft have delivered such tremendous value to me and the playerbase over the years (eg 7.0 update) that they deserve to be rewarded and I feel good supporting them. In my eyes they have earned the benefit of the doubt a couple of times over, and I continue to support them (recently bought the CoP collectors edition bundle - and I don't even enjoy music :p). I'm just hoping their recent comms / sales / pricing strategy is a momentary hiccup, not the beginning of a trend. As a long term fan, I feel bad for all the players who, due to missteps like these, might miss out on experiencing some truly exceptional games and expansions.

@@RK-252 That's all correct. And since my video was scripted at release, the situation was as described. I also was surprised as I saw the base game on sale at a 70% discount.

@@WatchMysh Wow, thanks for the reply. I wasn't expecting it, and it's much appreciated. Mainly I was hoping to reassure the OP, and others in their situation, that no - they aren't crazy - and shouldn't blame / doubt themselves / harbor regret out of a belief that they made any sort of mistake (in the words of the OP: "just because I was stupid"). I wanted them to know beyond doubt that they didn't make a mistake, they certainly aren't stupid, and their memory hasn't failed them - that in this bizarre set of circumstances the base game was truly not there because it had been deliberately removed. Egosoft made _all_ the mistakes. The silver lining is, as you said in the video, Timelines is at least "salvageable". I personally hope Egosoft prioritizes that here. P.S. I only discovered your channel yesterday. This is the first of your videos I have watched, and I thought it was _excellent_. I hope you keep up the great work, and I proactively hate your guts for the sleep I'm sure to miss binge-watching the rest of your content. :)

@@RK-252 hey :) I try to reply to all of the comments I get. Yes, seems like EgoSoft made some confusing decisions here. No one is stupid here - were just on different positions on the "Timeline" (lol). Ok I'll see myself out... And thanks for the appreciation of my content. :)

@@darthhell4234 who are these german reviewers that say Timelines is great? I have no idea about what's happening on german KZfaq.

@@Eorel exactly :)

​​​@@WatchMysh also btw i got the DlC for just 10 or 11 Euros. If you Upgrade to one of that Special Packs and own all Previous DLC it gets Realy Cheap. Ps: i hope for More Xenon Ships to Capture in the Future.

@@Eorel Oh that's a nice deal indeed

@@bikeguy3034 Timelines will be included into new purchases of the base game from now on. If you already own X4 you have to buy it as a DLC.

That's part of the problem I have with Timelines: in my perception it was supposed to breath some life into the places you visit in the open universe by giving them a background story. The convoluted way the stories are told though keep them from providing just that.

Never happened in any of my games so far.

@@eMKeaL Xenon aggression is randomized for each playthrough. You can check your save file;

you're welcome :)

Yep. That's what I thought the DLC was all about.