Napoleon's Imperial Guard: Artillery

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Napoleonic Wargaming

Napoleonic Wargaming

4 жыл бұрын

This is the first of 2 extras that will cover the units of the Imperial Guard we haven't yet. It's quite difficult to talk about the artilery as it rarely achieves anything on it's own, so I've done my best!
The artworks in this video are by Keith Rocco and are superb! The portraits are of General Druout, and the thumbnail is the excellent box art from hat.
I'll be doing another livestream on the channel this weekend, so hope to see you there!
Tim

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@lordkarlfrantz4002
@lordkarlfrantz4002 3 жыл бұрын
Even captain Mercer at Waterloo was very surprised how the horse guard artillery men shoot and reload fast. The best artillery unit of the napoleonic wars
@jonathanowen9917
@jonathanowen9917 Жыл бұрын
Riding forward, unlimbering and loading the guns, and firing in 60 seconds is an impressive feat of arms. I can only imagine the devastating effect that this had on the massed ranks of infantry facing the Imperial Guard horse artillery.
@generaltom6850
@generaltom6850 3 жыл бұрын
This is an arm of the Imperial guard That EVEN WIKIPEDIA DOESN’T CARE ABOUT
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. I love Drouot too, I might do a whole video on him at some point
@NapoleonCalland
@NapoleonCalland 3 жыл бұрын
That's Wikipedia's loss! 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🇫🇷🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🇫🇷🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🇫🇷🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🇫🇷🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝 🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝
@robowisanveithasung6022
@robowisanveithasung6022 2 жыл бұрын
osprey publishing still beats wikipedia information about the imperial guard by far
@LittleLouieLagazza
@LittleLouieLagazza Жыл бұрын
Ah, yes. The Immortal Guard Cows of the Guard artillery train 😅😅😅
@LittleLouieLagazza
@LittleLouieLagazza Жыл бұрын
Drouot! Drouot! Drouot!
@remittanceman4685
@remittanceman4685 2 жыл бұрын
In the British Army of the time the artillery was organised into battalions and companies (troops in the horse artillery). A company (or troop) had 150-200 men. It became a battery when it was issued guns from the central pool and sent on active service. I believe the same was the case in the French Army.
@canadaero
@canadaero 3 жыл бұрын
These are excellent, very enjoyable
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy! Glad you're here enjoying them!
@jamesbarbour327
@jamesbarbour327 4 жыл бұрын
Have you considered doing a program about the famous commanders of the Guard? You have addressed this tangentially with the individual units, but it would be interesting to see your take on Bessieres, Dorsenne, Lepic, Dahlman and others!
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 4 жыл бұрын
One or more of them may well end up at Napoleonic Figures!
@LittleLouieLagazza
@LittleLouieLagazza Жыл бұрын
+1 !!!
@granapriego
@granapriego 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Very interesting.
@martinradcliffe4798
@martinradcliffe4798 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Wonderfully evocative as always.
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude!
@bigmoniesponge
@bigmoniesponge 3 жыл бұрын
@Adonis Kye bot
@bigmoniesponge
@bigmoniesponge 3 жыл бұрын
@Ali Leonidas also a bot
@MedievalWargamer
@MedievalWargamer 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!Good information thank you!
@bjkernowpaintingandmodelli9119
@bjkernowpaintingandmodelli9119 4 жыл бұрын
Nice narrative, very interesting
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t it strange that the busbies and bearskins of French Guard artillery look so very different when produced by different figure manufacturers? The Guard Foot arty should have a bearskin that looks much like that of the Grenadiers of the Old Guard, yet it’s often modelled as slim and little bigger than a British ‘Belgic’ shako. Meanwhile, the Guard Horse arty had a very broad and fluffy busby, very similar to that of the Guard Chasseurs à Cheval and yet it’s often shown as tall and narrow, barely wider than the soldier’s head. Odd that.
@LittleLouieLagazza
@LittleLouieLagazza 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Greetings from Saipan
@owensnowdon496
@owensnowdon496 4 жыл бұрын
Great video again keep it up :)
@sdtamarinera
@sdtamarinera 5 ай бұрын
keep up the good work!
@SuperHalberd
@SuperHalberd 4 жыл бұрын
Yay artillery!
@BaronsHistoryTimes
@BaronsHistoryTimes 3 жыл бұрын
30:00 - At Waterloo: There were three foot batteries of the Guard in the Grand Battery at the very start of its deployment. And as you mentioned in your earlier Old Guard infantry video, there were horse artillery Guard guns that moved up during the Imperial Guard Middle Guard attack. One Guard horse battery was embedded with Lobau's VI Corps and was in action on the east flank area. Several squadrons of Napoleon's Guard (Chasseurs) Cavalry faced the British cavalry in a clash that went bad for them during John Moore's fighting retreat in northern Spain when Napoleon pursued them. 33:00 - I'm never one to be shy tweaking wargames rules when they don't seem quite right; sometimes rules are published with unintended errors in them.
@connorfritsch8618
@connorfritsch8618 2 жыл бұрын
This series is great, will you be continuing it? I know you said in one of these videos that this is a war gaming channel not a history channel, still the history adds so much depth and emotion to reenacting/simulations.
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I've done all the videos for the French guard. I did 2 on the Russian guard too. It's certainly a type of video I like doing, I'm currently researching a couple of projects, so hopefully soon(ish! They take some time!)
@Semper_Iratus
@Semper_Iratus 4 жыл бұрын
Bonus.
@TwisstedSage
@TwisstedSage 4 жыл бұрын
First off, congratulations on another very fine historical video, although, once again, I miss seeing more minis to depict the subjects involved. Now then, as a former artilleryman, I'll admit my bias but I don't think the artillery in Black Powder are nearly powerful enough. This holds true for other rule sets & games as well. In the reading I've done the force of artillery fire isn't the deciding arm of combat, only because it cannot take ground. It is however, often the primary force that prepares that ground to be taken and then it is also the main weapon necessary to hold that same ground. Additionally, it is the most highly prized loot of a battlefield & symbol of victory, pointed out by every description of any battle of the time. I vividly remember reading a book on the Crimean War, written in part by physicians, one of whom was also an artist who made drawings of many of the assorted wounds (which were ghastly). These doctors noted that the vast majority of the dead were caused by artillery. I realize this was several decades after Napoleon's era but technology & tactics hadn't moved on that far. I believe all artillery ought to get an extra dice at all ranges, so 4,3, 2 for a complete battery & 3,2,1 for a half battery.. Maybe then we'd see more batteries on the table and more tactics & troops to take them out of action.
@Tupinamba77
@Tupinamba77 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. And I'd guess Napoleon himself would agree too. Although I'm more of a cavalry enthusiast myself (but only slightly more so), artillery should definitely be something to be feared on the battlefield. IMHO, gameplay shines when combined arms are at their best and I feel that artillery should have more impact on the table, even if more on the side of demoralising and disorganizing the enemy. I think that having more fortified positions and things on the battlefield that only artillery can deal with would also enhance their role in the game.
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting ideas.m, definitely worth a try out on the tabletop! (One day when we're allowed maybe!)
@baronbrutality757
@baronbrutality757 3 жыл бұрын
I know that in WWI/WWII the artillery dealt the most casualties out of all of the combat arms.
@bigmoniesponge
@bigmoniesponge 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tupinamba77 I wish I had war games.
@BaronsHistoryTimes
@BaronsHistoryTimes 3 жыл бұрын
I found out something new to share with you, related to this video-story - it's in Andrew Field's book 'Waterloo: French Perspectives' which incorporates many French veterans accounts of the battle of Waterloo. One of the recollections is by a French gunner of the Horse Guard artillery; he states that two Horse Batteries of the Guard - one of which he was in, were the French artillery that made it to Wellington's center on and west of the crossroads after the French cavalry attacks. They were blasting Wellington's center, but there was no French infantry at that time - he estimates for about 2 hours - to exploit the crisis being wreaked.
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 3 жыл бұрын
Huh. That is interesting! 2 hours is a very long time ! I guess it's something we gamers with our gods eye view an set turns often overlook! These boys told to do something and just keeping on doing it, only for no support to make it ultimately pointless
@BaronsHistoryTimes
@BaronsHistoryTimes 3 жыл бұрын
@@NapoleonicWargaming I agree. The space of those 2 hours (I'm guessing it was more like 60-90 minutes - from around after the fall of La Haye Sainte, when the witnessing of French arty coming to the front was more widely noted) created a real possibility in cracking Wellington's center in two. Reading on further in that gunner's recollection it gets more interesting; as you know Napoleon went up personally with the Guard up to the La Haye Sainte area, much to the concern of his generals. The way Mont St Jean's plateau forms it has a protrusion of its plateau and slope that is almost in line with La Haye Sainte; it's around from there to the crossroads that the Guard batteries were in position; they were getting shot up too. In the account given, the gunner - Lt.Pontecoulant - ventures that Napoleon made a personal appearance at a gun position which I'll assume was around 300 yards away from the allied infantry.
@rhysnichols8608
@rhysnichols8608 3 жыл бұрын
@@BaronsHistoryTimes Wow interesting comments, I think the reason the weakened centre wasn’t exploited with infantry attacks was due to the Prussians hard pressing on the right flank, and the fact Hugomount farm hadn’t been taken yet, Napoleon was cautious with his reserves and had to send most of them to fight the Prussians. In heinsight it may have been better to quickly organise a large assault during this 2 hour window, but from Napoleon’s perspective he wanted his flanks secure first as smashing the British centre may have led to the attack being enveloped by the more intact flanks.
@BaronsHistoryTimes
@BaronsHistoryTimes 3 жыл бұрын
@@rhysnichols8608 I agree with you on all your points. The center being smashed was mostly German > brigades of Ompteda, Kielmansegge, supported by Nassauers of Kruse, and then Brunswickers. .... The British on either side of these Germans > Halkett's brigade, and Kempt's and Lambert's brigades on the east side of the highway got pummeled too. I think -IN the luxury of hindsight, as soon as Napoleon saw and realized tens of thousands of Prussians were heading to the battlefield ( when they were miles away at St.Lambert), Napoleon should have opted to retreat back to France instead of get stuck in a two front battle. He had the time to save his army.
@rhysnichols8608
@rhysnichols8608 3 жыл бұрын
@@BaronsHistoryTimes I understand where you’re coming from, but I disagree, I think the best chance for Napoleon was winning at Waterloo which was indeed possible. The entire point of the campaign was to stop the Prussians and British uniting and defeat them separately QUICKLY before Russia and Austria could field large armies too. France had no hope against s combined coalition, so retreating back to France would only mean Napoleon would have to face the 200,000 strong prusso/Anglo forces with only 120000 men, and maybe the hope of 130,000 if he got more conscripts, and he would then have no time to also counter the huge austri/Russian army too! Napoleon’s only hope was a quick victory against separated enemies, then negotiate a favourable peace from a position of strength if think Waterloo was a ‘now or never’ mindset
@gasmonkey1000
@gasmonkey1000 2 жыл бұрын
Have you done a video on the Sailors of the Imperial Guard?
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 2 жыл бұрын
Not yet... ;)
@rhysnichols8608
@rhysnichols8608 2 жыл бұрын
At Waterloo Ney correctly sensed weakness in the British centre, and launched a massive cavalry assault, either through poor communication or over caution, no french general gave the order for infantry to follow the charge, this would have smashed the British squares had the imperial gunners and infantry followed Ney, if Napoleon was on the field at this time he should have supported neys attack, but no one did, and it became a bloody mess.
@jonmcintosh1737
@jonmcintosh1737 4 ай бұрын
Does it matter the size of the cannon in black powder? I inherited more than a few horse artillery of the imperial guard mainly 6 pounders?
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 4 ай бұрын
They band them into light, medium and heavy, so not hugely. For 6pdrs I'd count them as medium horse artillery
@jonmcintosh1737
@jonmcintosh1737 4 ай бұрын
@@NapoleonicWargaming thanks brother!
@rhysnichols8608
@rhysnichols8608 2 жыл бұрын
I found this awesome clip of young Napoleon in an artillery engagement kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d7V1epx7rsCymqM.html I’m also curious what the training/drill was for artillery units that were overran by the enemy? They were prime target for cavalry and artillery men were issued heavy short swords to be able to combat cavalry weighted blades.
@malachiwex4622
@malachiwex4622 3 жыл бұрын
So im confused, is this just to reference to a game or is it a documentary such as the stats like "guns able to fire within a little over a minute"?
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not 100% sure what you're asking, but all the videos on this channel are as reference to wargaming. The rules I always reference are called Black Powder
@malachiwex4622
@malachiwex4622 3 жыл бұрын
@@NapoleonicWargaming just asking if all the things referred to in the video is historic. Not just specific to the game.... just because ive never heard of the game before these videos because my intention was to find good source of information for my study on the napoleonic wars
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@malachiwex4622 ah cool, well it's a combination, I try and talk mostly about the history, with some stuff for the rules at the end. The games are why I do the channel, but the games are nothing if we dont understand the history behind it
@malachiwex4622
@malachiwex4622 3 жыл бұрын
@@NapoleonicWargaming ah awesome, real cool videos, very informative and interesting, been into the napoleonic wars for a few years now and its good to get some information about specific units as in your other videos. Good stuff
@galaxydoeshistory9352
@galaxydoeshistory9352 Жыл бұрын
There's a game on Roblox I play called Marque of War, and I am in the Artillerie À Pied de la Garde. I really like the artillery in the Napoleonic wars.
@paintinghistory1475
@paintinghistory1475 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Napoleonic wargaming I need your help, im a new black powder player but not new to the hobby I've seen many terrain tables and they look amazing and I've looked through warlordgames gallery and i have no clue how they do it i bought a pvc 6 by 4 Matt and it feels off I cant enjoy a game because the battle field just doesn't work for me can you please if you have time explain how you make those look very pretty and realistic please help thank you
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 4 жыл бұрын
It depends on what you're after really! I mean, a green cloth draped over books is how I got started and I still think it's cool! As you've got a mat, they're great, but I think they look better with 3d terrain on them, and theres never been a better or easier time to get it! For trees, hedges etc, ebay is a great resource. You can buy hundreds of different types. I use AliExpress, a Chinese website that basically let's you buy direct from the maker. You can get really good trees, of all types for literally pennies. For buildings you can try Red Vector, Sarissa and 4ground. The latter are more expensive but come pre painted. Or if you dont like mdf you can go hovels. If you want to go your own way, I'd recommend 'how to make wargames terrain'by games workshop, again on Amazon or Ebay. That's any help? There's
@paintinghistory1475
@paintinghistory1475 4 жыл бұрын
@@NapoleonicWargaming Thank you very much very helpful! Been painting black powder since I saw you're waterloo refought discussion. But only recently started gaming it properly been watching you're videos and Lennon 262s to try to understand the rules. But anyway yeah thanks I l check it out good luck with the channel and have a good day!
@alistairbain6149
@alistairbain6149 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t diss monks - back in the day they could be some of the most bad-ass fighters around!
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 3 жыл бұрын
Ha. That's true
@jean-luchochart6960
@jean-luchochart6960 3 жыл бұрын
NON! La meilleure infanterie du monde était l'infanterie française et elle l'a prouvé à Austerlitz. Mais nous avions également la meilleure cavalerie du monde et la meilleure artillerie du monde! Sinon nous n'aurions pas occupé la quasi totalité de l'Europe! VIVE L'EMPEREUR!
@dzelman444
@dzelman444 3 жыл бұрын
In French artillery organization "Company" and "Battery" mean the same thing but a Battery isn't always a battery. Administratively the company sized artillery unit was usually referred to as a company until they deployed then it just became a battery. However in battle (or shortly before) several batteries could be brigaded together into a battery. Because they HATE military historians. Kiley's "Artillery of the Napoleonic Wars" is a great resource for especially French formations.
@NapoleonicWargaming
@NapoleonicWargaming 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha it does seem that way. Thanks for the clear explanation!
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