All you need to know about the state of the Guard is that "Effective Guard Units?" has a question mark at the end of it.

Hi martyn! (I know my mate martin will be watching this)

Awesome video! I agree with a lot of what you say here, although I respectfully disagree with a few points :) Would love to sit down and chat some 40k with you some time, maybe record it for an episode? Let me know what you think!

I reckon all weapons in a field ordnance battery getting hit by the artillery nerf betrays how clunky the points system is, unfortunately.

The Deathstrike back to being near useless? Why am I not surprised

Sentinel truly ascending into knight equivalent tier

never once wanted a astra militarum army but walkers are so damn cool

Someone mentioned that Element Games Tournaments (I think?) allow Creed to use her ability on reinforcements since the unit “dies” but isn’t removed before it’s ability triggers, similar to how a model “dies” but stays on the field to check if deadly demise goes off”

Anyone else think Cadian Shock should have Born Soldiers baked in, or only get Born soldiers if they move? It would help incentivize pushing with infantry and make you use them as shock infantry

Nork can count to 4, and that's the tier he's in. Seems appropriate.

Baneblade party bus has been quite a challenge to fight against. Loading it full of lascannons

For the 200 pts i think the valkyrie should be a 21 model transport. it's a very spacious interior. It would fill a niche for transports too.

None of guard artillery was causing issues that caused the nerf. That was eldar and space marines. And they're still a problem.

I've loved seeing your channel grow over the last year or two. All killer no filler.

I find green being low tier and red high tier on the thumbnail / chart confusing, does anyone else find this? I sort of see red as power and danger, but I'm too conditioned by traffic lights to think red means keep away and green is go. If seen from the opponent's view I suppose it makes sense. Attack the low tiers, stay away from the high tiers.

Thank you for this insightful video about the Imperial Guard!

I've had really good fun with Strakachan squads so far, have caught my opponents off guard many times so far. If you pair them with a transport, you can propel them into your opponents backline squishy support units by Turn 2 or 3, if you get the charges/consolidations off.

I think rapier laser destroyers are tier 1, 30 pts for 2 twink linked lascannon shots is amazing. They also have attillery keyword so benefit a lot from the overlapped buffs and can be taken in squads of 3 to make good use of take aim

I have found the Stormblade to become a strong pick in my lists for its potency in overwatch and its lowest points cost of all baneblade variants. The sustained hits on 4 twin linked heavy bolters is superb, the re-roll all hits on the main gun within 24" for some added reliability of landing a few 6's is also not to be underestimated. For 1 CP I have picked up 4 terminators in a game, withered plenty of infantry in others.

Most of my army is tier 3. 😅 The Ogryn Bodyguard is actually not bad if you're facing a lot of Precision in your meta as Guard commanders are super important.

I am happy that Kreig are good coz the models are epic

I think only the marshal and the castellan can even fit inside the chimera to use its ability, with its capacity and the requirements of platoon command squads and leader attachments.

Personally I love Kasrkin and use them as one of the teeth units of my army. Admittedly a bit of an investment but a Kasrkin Squad with 2x HS Volley Guns, 2x Plasma Guns and an attached Castellan can put out a lot of MEQ mulching dakka for 170 points. Putting them in a Taurox is pricy at 235 but worth it with how the rules stack. 1.) Kasrkin have Scout 6" which can either apply to them or their dedicated transport, giving the Taurox a turn one movement potential of 18". Combine that with the Kasrkin's native 6" movement and you've got a potential for a 24" movement range with the Kasrkin, while the Taurox's Rapid Deployment lets the Kasrkin move and shoot as normal in the same turn they've disembarked, letting them put out a goodly amount of firepower as detailed below, especially if you can get the Kasrkin into cover or on a building. Depending on how small your map size is, the Taurox can then fire it's guns into an advancing enemy unit (the shooting isn't great but it's not terrible. Think of it as a bonus), then charge into the opponent's units to tie them up in close combat or be in a position to do that the next turn. Don't expect the Taurox to really survive but if you get lucky, you can use it to tie up an enemy ranged anti-armor or anti-infantry unit with poor melee in melee for awhile. Then finish it off with Deadly Demise D3. 2.) Unless I've misread the wording or misunderstand how the rules interact (very possible given how I generally only play casual narrative games with friends), Kasrkin's Warrior Elite ability allows them to chose in the command phase to just have an order that affects them natively, for free, for the duration of that turn. I personally always choose "Take Aim!" to make them go from a BS 3+ to a 2+. This stacks with the Cadian Castellan, who can then order them to use "FRFSRF", resulting in a massive output from the (using base profile here for each weapon so add 1 to Rapid Fire) Rapid Fire 1 HS Lasgun, Rapid Fire 2 HS Volley Gun (which is just a straight upgrade to the HS Lasgun), and Rapid Fire 1 Plasma Gun. The Cadian Castellan grants the Kasrkin Sustained Hits 1 to make their shooting hurt all the more. Additionally, since getting the full use out of the above requires you to be within 12" (the Rapid Fire range for Plasma Guns and HS Lasguns, though that also lets your two Plasma Pistols contribute), you're likely to get charged if only to tie up the unit from shooting again. You'll have two power swords in the fight (one from the Sergeant and one from the Castellan) and then the Castellan grants you Get Back Into The Fight, which will allow the Kasrkin unit to fall back out of melee and then shoot again in that same turn. 3.) The HS Marksman Rifle is generally not worth it in this setup, as it requires you to give up yet another HS Lasgun which reduces your rapid fire output, plus it's only alright as a character hunter in my experience. It is however a very nice model and I've been using it to proxy a Vindicaire for my own amusement. Also for added giggles, mark the target with a Scout Sentinel beforehand to reroll hits of one while shooting with a BS 2+ unit (either natively with the Vindicaire or with the Kasrkin's Warrior Elite). Definitely check with your fellow players to get a second opinion, as I am not a tournament player. It's a very "Death or Glory" strategy but it amuses me immensely. In a 1200 points list (narrative with RP expansion, though you could probably pull this off in a 1000 point list) I bring two and cackle maniacally. It's not points efficient but it's fun. Add two infantry squads for backline objectives and HWT support (I do missiles but I'm also doing a narrative theme for my army, also 65 points each), a pair of scout sentinels for marking targets with Daring Recon (50 points each, plus you may as well bring Lascannons), a Manticore for indirect fire that can ignore the indirect penalty as long as they shoot at units marked with Daring Recon (though be aware that the Manticore's Furious Barrage Ability, which lets you reroll hits on a unit of five models or more, does not stack with Daring Recon's ability to reroll ones to hit or a command point reroll), a Vindicaire and a tank commander (not super great, bring the Demolisher Cannon as you're inherently paying for it anyways, though an Exterminator Autocannon is not a bad second choice) to get an army that is a lot of fun to play and has about 55 points left over to play around with.

Im a simple man...i see guard, i hit the like button 😊

My favorite combo is stuffing a stormlord full of ogryns and heavy bolters for maximum dakka

I feel like all progress we have in 9th just got reverse back to 8th in 10th

Could you kindly put your slides up for download even as a protected PDF? It’d be easier than taking notes as with my TBI I need to study stuff over and over to memorize. Thanks for the great videos!!

Absolutely agree with this tier list. Gj

You’re missing the sauce that is the fliers both the voss pattern lightning and the avenger striker fighter are both pretty tanky for how much they cost and pack a punch (even more with the buffs from lord Solar and or the attaches) and they score engage on all fronts which if you’re doing fixed (which I think it’s the play for guard) it’s just really consistent with scions and the gaunts ghosts I’m personally running 3 of each and having some pretty good success with it

The executioner's special rule should be reversed. They're meant to be rare and expensive tanks whose crews are known for being foolhardy if not insane. Mopping up battered enemies is the infantry's job.

Hope they scale back Russ costs next points update, maybe cut costs on things like Valks. I think the AM index is alright, it's just being overshadowed by all the crazy broken stuff at the top right now.

I would like to say that since chimeras have firing deck 2 currently. You could potentially use a heavy weapons squad to convert it into a knock off razorback. Could be funny if nothing else.

They never should have let named characters into tournaments in 40k. It causes so many problems.

Servitors with plasma cannons as a bodyguard to an enginseer attached to a blob of catachans with either Straken or a priest act as a pretty nasty screening unit - especially when charging or being charged with the order „fix bayonets.“

I feel a little better about the future of my mechanized guard army

What about Malcador tanks? Or for example Valdor Tank Hunter?

After points changes and the meta settling on heavy infantry and tanks I think this is relatively accurate. I would say TC and most Russ chassis are now quite good and the infantry is off though.

awesome video

The Commissar doesn't autopass a battle shock test unfortunately, he removes battle shock at the beginning of any phase. Because of the timing of this he can't actually be used to quickly flip an objective. He can be used if you suddenly need to use a stratagem on a unit that is battle shocked though.

I absolutely love the Baneblades cover rule, but for whatever crazy reason I continue to simp for the Doomhammer.

Hello definitely for sure fellow Astra Militarum friends. I am definitely not a Genestealers Cultist here to steal some new units. On a serious note, there's something I've been wondering for this edition. Can a Guard vehicle with a transport capacity carry GSC infantry in it? Or can it strictly only still carry Guard models?

Jay from Eons of Battle in his latest video just said he loved your videos while talking about building a Black Templar list to go up against a “parking lot Guard list”. Could be a fun video to answer that question and show a good Black Templar list at different sized games against vehicle heavy guard

hows an earthshaker battery only 80 points and a manticore is 125 points but field ordnance batteries are 120 points? field ordnance batteries are horribly overcosted.

I commented on the last video, but can models with the deep strike ability come from reserves on turn one? I’ve been reading the rule book and there’s nothing saying they can’t not come turn one. It only specifies “one of your reinforcements steps”

Where would you find the death korps marshal ,I cant find that thing anywhere

Honestly I’ve been trying to make guard work I love the demolishes but it’s 20pts more expensive than a custodes tank that is farrrrrrrrr better with an invul …. Dosnt make much sense

20 man squad, with command squad/ogryn, and a preacher will give you a pretty scary unit

Noticed a lot of things had a point drop in the last balance update. Wonder how much that effects specific units

I think spamming large death Korps squads (with marchals) and sentinels is viable here haha, with lord solar as well ;)

Also Solar can order up to 24 inches with a master vox.

I've actually had some real success with servitors. Deep striking them in on the board edges and releasing a mass of Melta fire is super super powerful right now. Took down a full wounds wraith knight in one round of shooting from 2 different squads. They are super good and standout units, I think they should be up towards the top of 3rd tier / bottom of the 2nd tier. Thanks Auspex

Despite maybe not being that competetive i like idea of malcador tank with 3 lascanons or 3 autocanons

Where are the faqs for 10th edition? When you check downloads on the warhammer community page there is nothing there

Needs an update since the dataslate change.

Thanks, Comment for the Skull Throne

Just got into the game with Militarum. Did GW give them a boost or no?

Maybe someday in a few centuries Tallarn will have models again ):

Is there EVER going to be an edition where Ogryn and Bullgyrn are good?!

What about the thunderbolt heavy fighter?

Why ruin the death strike? Such a fun model. People loved playing against it, I got to use my vortex grenade marker… Useless move to nerf it. Just like the Tau bomber nerf.

It seems that in most editions of 40k the forge world options are commonly over-costed. I have always considered this a purposeful trend meant to discourage their use. What do you think?

I'm confused, in an earlier video you praised Nork because you could put a command squad and Nork together in an infantry squad, Nork could stop all the hits with his invulnerability save, if he does take any wounds the medic would be able to heal him to full health. Making him a huge wall to break before the officer or infantry could be harmed. What gives?

What of....the super heavy variants?

It's a shame deathstrike is bad again, I really liked what it was in 9th

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I feel vindicated that after a couple of games against Guard in 10th I immediately thought Scout Sents were excellent. I thought I'd maybe missed them for a second until the end.

Had a game yesterday against Dark Angels yesterday. I got horribly stomped, my guard could not kill anything.

Where's the Scout Sentinel & what's its Tier standing to you?

I would disagree that all Guard flyers are bad. Voss Lightnings or Avenger Fighter seem decent for 130 Points...and they profit from the "useless" Attache 😊

Regimental Enginseer seems like a nobrainer. Yet tournament winners don't really use them. And only aircraft bothered mentioning is a Valkyrie at Tier 4! Damn!

I really have no idea why games workshop nerfs the valkyrie every edition

IDK think the Deathstrike is a bit better than you're giving it credit for. Maybe not top tier but least T3? Area denial fun aside, even if the other guy isn't scared and rolls a single 10 man marine squad into that area. They're all probably gonna die. That's 2D6 hits to everything. Hitting on 2+, wounding everything on 2+, -4ap. Sure it's only 1 damage but if you get hit 5-6 times (avg) nothings gonna make it that isn't a tank. 10 marines are what 200 give or take points? That's a net win. Then you get a free 10" move, 3 OC, armored heavy bolter hull to drive around and maybe hit more bullets for you. Or with Cadia Shock Troopers "sticky" obj control even if you blast your own squad you still have the obj lol. Plus it's kinda fun to take one. I'd almost love to take 3 and see what shenanigans I can get up to. Also side note, manticores don't have limited ammo anymore? That's...interesting.

Wait can valyrie come in turn 1? I thought all flying had to come in turn 2

You can use abilities even in deep strick or transport, meaning you can order them if the leader is attached to a squad. Kasrkin in Transport can also order themselves.

Regimental attaches are auto include for competitive. 40 points! The ordinance is obvious since a competitive list goes heavy on indirect artillery. The fleet guy, whatever. Extra wound on a krieger brick. Astropath! That’s worth 80 points. Stops enemies from deploying 12” from him. If you parking lot the arty. Biggest threat is reserves and deep strike. With astropath and clever deployment it ain’t happening. Also servitors are awesome, for the same reason forge world tarantulas are as well. Only 35! Points. If you are just throwing bodies to screen out and defend space, go cheap. Need lots of scouts. Solid bricks of Kriegers to move up. A big blob of regular infantry with 2 mortars and Ursula, Sola. That infantry will indirect fire what you want dead. Ursula CP fields of fire. Arty deletes. With cheap tarantulas servitors and astropath back field and main army is secured and safe. Kriegers push and hold. Scouts body block midfield while targeting for arty.

Just had my first game of 10th against custodes with guard. It... Did not go well 😄. Perfect timing for me to revamp my list

Apparantly creed can reinforcement back sentinels since they aren't removed when destroyed and they come back with hunger killers.... not seen any faq on this

SCIONS ALLL THE WAyy I’ve played roughly six 10th edition games now, and the Scion death all is real. As it stands 5 wins 1 loss. The key armor and Scions. 2 identical death balls. Command squad(with medipak) attached to 10 man with tech priest so you get 5+ invuln and 6+ feel no pain. Then drop em in and devastate.

Good God Emperor no wonder the Tyranids basically created a super one to grab Leontus with all the things he brings. Frankly I wish more leader characters did more like that, like full blown named Warlord options.

... I can hardly believe what Sentinels have turned into. They were an utter joke for so long. Multiple entire editions of armor 10/11 and multilasers.

I know this is like 5 months later, but I really think you underestimated Bullgryns, they're easily tier 1

TL:DR it’s not good. Shoutout to my boys who got to play like 3 games with our 9e codex. That was a fun like 6 months.

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I've been looking for the death korps marshal because I've been thinking about getting into 40k, but can seem to find his miniature anywhere forge world or games workshop. living in canada if anyone can point me in the right direction

Valkyrie is about 80 points of ability. 200 is your joking.

tempestus is tier1 lol

Welcome to the guard where 2/3 of your units are useless, almost everything is 10-20% overcosted, and your army rules do nothing most of the time!

Dem Ogyrns are pretty Orky.

Gaunt's Ghosts >>>>>>>> Snikrot + Kommandos. I'm sad.

I hate having to run a stupid named character in every army. I hate naked characters in general as they ruin my immersion but I can tolerate them if they’re not overpowered as hell compared to everything else in the army. Leontus is actually the fucking worst. He’s better than anything else in the army at everything and there’s no reason not to take him, so every guard army has the exact same golden guy on a horse in every engagement. It just destroys any sense of immersion and personal connection to the army for me, as if it was a generic character I could name them, give them a personality etc but instead it’s a super important character in the lore or whatever who just so happens to be in every single minor battle the trillions of guardsmen fight every day? Great. Fuck named characters.

Why are bad units green and good units red rather than the other way around? Green is normally good and red bad.

new overpriced model are god tier ? ho boy thats marketing in a ntushell hey ?

Weird ya used a picture of a krieg commissar instead of a pic of the death korps marshall/

Restarting in 9th with guard was a good decision. Although everyone on the Internet keeps telling me how they aren't strong, I keep tabling my friends. Maybe I need to add more terrain, but yesterday my DKOK with psyker and marshall also killed my friend's Ballistus dreadnought and infernus marines in melee. I'll stick with the guard whether they are strong or weak :-) I'm pretty sure you can use Creed's reinforcements on a destroyed unit and apparently it was ruled like this in some UK tournaments. When a unit is destroyed, it can be targeted and then it is taken off the board. Other rules such as deadly demise also involve measuring distances from a destroyed unit, after all. The stratagem is also explicit on that it can be used on a destroyed unit.

Now that the Index FAQ have finally dropped I think we can safely say that GW does not deserve the fans and content creators like yourself. (Yeah it's 'free' but 9th was a total mess) Guard players have been repeatedly mucked about to the point where playing and keeping up just isnt fun anymore. Guard had a 6 month valid 9th Codex, lots of base size changes, multiple special weapon changes, restricted to only six of each infantry type, have one of the weakest detatchment rules, caught the indirect nerfs and.. the new ugly and unthematic models are practically auto include. It's not just competitive players affected there's some glaring balance/points issues. (eg. Marine tanks vs Guard tanks) Sorry GW - No more pennies from me until your work improves. 🧂🙁

I‘m new to this and I don‘t get how the guard used to be pretty good right after their new codex dropped now I bought a couple of units and tanks but there‘s no codex anymore, just index cards and they‘re sh*t again?

Is it just me, or is the Lord Solar not on any of these lists? I would think he’s Tier 1

Is there an actual good reason why all the heavy weapons teams and the field ord battery have bs5 now? I have yet to get a decent answer that wasnt just "Guard bad, lol". I swear...GW could f*!k up a wet dream.

Took 5 scout setinels do the math if you want and the oponent kept killing one ubut pop 2 cp bring them back with more missilesi kept doing this until game was done first time i beat an eldar player i know shocking