Someone said the reason Yoli didn't like Vanessa was because they're similar Yoli is just more quiet with it.

Not Bella Swan 😂😂

Bella Swan 😭😭😭😭😭

@Emma Louise O yeah I remember Xander saying something like that to Vanessa early on too

@@TheWoodEyeLyes oh really wow I never clocked that but makes a lot of sense.

Yes I wish that was addressed more.

I Stan Vanessa!

@@salamander8301GIRL.

​@@salamander8301 Choose better idols

Vanessa was never the villain, yeah sure she was annoying, and at some point disrespectful, but she was ALWAYS honest and upfront with her bullshit. It's the bitches like Yoli and Mildred that pretend to be the good guys that do the most damage. And to some degree Xander is also really shady. Just because y'all don't like Vanessa doesn't mean Xander wasn't disrespectful and hypocritical.

What's worse is that statistically DV in lesbian relationship is a really big problem, way bigger than in male gay relationships. And it still gets swept under the rug

@@MELLMAO Do you have a source for that? That sounds incredibly counterintuitive.

​@@MELLMAOthe study that said that was proven false years ago

I wonder if tiff is also being affected by toxic masculinity. Even though they are not a man their gender presentation is very masculine. It seems like Tiff is getting the "man up" treatment bc Mildred is small and traditionally feminine

@@MELLMAO I think it's because when DV is present in gay male relationships, usually both of them are the perpetrators so the line between victim and attacker is more blurred compared to straight or lesbian couples.

this is so unrelated (you're right tho) but i LOVE your merli pfp

I'm Queer and Dominican with a whole Sicilian family as well we are all loud when together you need to fight and be super present to get a word in but we know how to have a serious conversation with someone. When she was saying its all because she's latina ...nooooo she is doing such a disservice and pushing the stereotype of Latina/Hispanic women.

I'm Latina and I'm so offended that she used her abusive behavior as an excuse. You are an abuser, period.

@@90sDRgirl right! Using that stereotype as an excuse is damaging. There's a right way to argue and a wrong way. Mildred just has to grow up and learn to control her emotions. learn to give people the chance to speak.

Thank you for this! As a queer Latina, I hate how mildred blames her anger issues on her identity as a Latina. It's incredibly harmful for many other Latina women

This really does feel like something that is only happening because they’re the more masculine one - they so obviously we’re the victim and yet…

FR! I knew Mildred was poison, but that reunion was actually shocking. And no one called her out…

or not invite her at all iirc they've not invited some contestants on reunion episodes on a few of their dating shows

@@Primeyzee I knew something deeper was going on when Aussie said they didn’t feel safe around Mildred. It was really sad that no one took that statement seriously and tried to paint Aussie as the fault in that relationship. No wonder they broke down when Sam brought up Mildred.

Netflix uses every one to make the most money. Can't stand that streaming service.

Honestly Yoly surprised me... I felt super bad for Mal in the reunion, but it was nice to see them continue their life peacefully after the breakup

Bro Mal was so patient with Yoly the whole time, she better than me tbh. 😭 Also Mildred definitely through me a loop bcs wtf? ik she wasn't great but.. DV?? 😨 Now Aussie being on edge makes sense. I would've got up out of there too !

@@id3389i felt like it was obvious Yoly was being avoidant the whole time she effectively pushed the spot light to Vanessa (not saying Vanessa was nice)

dead assssss… had me shook!

haven't watched the reunion yet but man i KNEW IT... the way yoly acted w Xander during her time w mal and mildreds vibe just as a whole were so off to me from the start

this exactly! Mal and Sam are the same in that way: incredibly patient and understanding but in a way that denies your own needs and enables your partner, because you believe love requires an unholy amount of self-sacrifice. The only difference is their partners. Aussie and Yoly both take advantage of that, but whereas Aussie lashes out and runs when pushed, Yoly manipulates and lies so she never gets confronted to begin with.

remember we saw more than Mal did at the time, Mal had a belief that Yoli was being honest and was wrapping things up so when Mal really understood what was true, they ended it

i think the reason why mal felt the need to be patient and understanding is bc she cheated on yoly in the past and the guilt she’s feeling from it is basically preventing her from standing up to yoly. but in return she allowed herself to become a doormat. they should’ve broke up after she cheated bc if she wanted this relationship w yoly so bad then why did she cheat? and yoly really thought marriage will fix anything lol. the relationship was over the minute mal decided to cheat.

​@@julest5767yeah. She kept Mal in the dark.

but I agree in that even with just the ambivalence of Yoli, Mal might of said "I deserve more"

HOLY SHIT YES Crissle would read that whole stage for filth. imagine her energy from “cousin fucker” for an hour and a half

Judge Lynn Toler is my vote She would GET them together I just can’t see her agreeing with the concept of the show

I vote for Psychology in Seattle!

@@t.ron314 but then the episodes would take too damn long

wow a show where actual mental health and relationship professionals come in regularly and guide healing is such an elevated thought. it's really what should be airing in 2023, not manipulative trash TV. people love drama but stories about wins, overcoming, struggling and healing, and success are seriously what we need in this era and would do just as well IMO. just like makeover shows, but more respectful.

Yoli and lexi coming in hot

@@salamander8301tbh as much as i disagree w lexis behaviour, i dont think shes a bad person, shes young & clearly felt very betrayed and hurt and didnt get an answer she was looking for from rae & it was probably edited like that on purpose too

@@salamander8301 THIS

How was she cruel?

i honestly always disagreed with how vanessa was vilified by the rest of the group. could easily understand how her personality at the beginning could rub people the wrong way, but every time someone would spout the whole “she’s not here for the right reasons” shit i was just like well yeah ? she didn’t issue the ultimatum, obviously she wasn’t there for marriage, she made that very clear. her only real crime was devaluing xander, which she learned from towards the end. aussie, tiff, and lexi were all as flawed as her in my opinion and yoly and mildred were worse by a mile

Very much this. I really don’t like her, but she’s upfront and honest about who she is and what she does and I appreciate that

Honestly, I don’t think she was straightforward. I think she’s just bad at acting. There were a few moments where she was just acting

I appreciated what she had to say on the reunion. I dont think she learned much through the show but i think she did watching it back. Gaining a bit of self awareness. I think most of us have acted like she did at one point in our lives and are very embarrassed about it now

@@Lel472 do you mean about her changing her mind about wanting to marry Xander? Because I think that was her panicking when she realized she was losing them. I don’t personally see it as acting as much as a fear response. Which can be the result of an ultimatum, to be fair. It’s like a “marry me or lose me” kind of thing, and a lot of people get scared and commit to marriages they don’t actually want.

​​@L. I constantly got an "I don't want them, you can't have them"-itis vibe from Vanessa. If she'd stuck to her booty call reason for being in the show? I'd have been...fine...with her. But her switch as soon as Vanessa found out that Xander could actually be fine without her? The way V manipulated them was sickening to me. By the end? I was like run, Xander, ruuuuun!

Yes! And not to mention the host pandering to Mildred after she openly admitted to being violent towards Tiff. It was infuriating to see Mildred be given a platform to spin and manipulate the narrative in her favor. She’s so vile she makes me sick.

They are pretty souless about getting "footage and drama" no matter what.

@@xo.toxiin the host was great and impartial.She let all of them talk. Unlike the Lacheys, who take sides and interrupt them.

@@carmindi5061 Mildred admitted to DV and even Aussie said that Aussie was scared of Mildred over the short time that they spent together. Netflix should have never given Mildred a platform NOR a platform to a host that encouraged an abuser to discuss their “healing journey”. If that’s what you classify as “great”, I’m sorry but we both have very different definitions of what defines being great.

@@carmindi5061 right is right and wrong is wrong. A good host makes a safe space and she did not in face of abuse

Aussie was talking about her personal experience with Mildred during their trial marriage. She wasn’t talking about Sam.

It's so clear that every cast member is worse off for having been on the show. The fact that Netflix invited a documented abuser back into their victim's life is astounding to me.

Honestly why don’t shows like this have counseling and immediate intervention if needed.

the fact they brushed over it... i'm shocked. Same sex abuse is so common, i'd love to see how it would of been dealt with if it was man on woman abuse smh

DV doesn’t get taken seriously enough, especially for queer couples. I’m not surprised that Netflix didn’t take it seriously, but it’s disappointing none the less. I hope Tiff is able to heal from this experience and move on 💕

I completely agree! I swear I’ve heard straight friends talk about how they wish they were gay and completely ignore any story I’ve told them about how women can be just as toxic.

Literally she looked like she gave Tiff the side eye after hearing Tiff called the cops on Mildred being abusive like ???

Not to mention when yoli was questioning tiff in that moment I'm like lady you are the last person to be grilling tiff 😅

Idk why Yoly thought she should be interjecting in anybody’s business. Like girl all your windows are broken put the stone down

The way she questioned Tiff showed that she was already on Mildred’s side

Im glad you caught that bs. that pissed me off, they both on their bs

She knew, she just didn't care enough...

she thought mal would be a doormat

Omg same 🥺

Sam had a heart and cared for Tiff bc they spent time together. I'm happy she reached out and was able to try and comfort Tiff.

Sam was (imo) the most emotionally mature of the whole lot. She genuinely cared about Tiff.

LOL could not do it!! The very thing Mal said she was afraid of, happened.

Like this might be a stretch but here’s what I see: Mal is a dark skin queer femme. We’ve seen what happens when Black wm are demonized for showing even justified anger on screen. Mal probably is anger but can’t even show it on tv. But also Mal could truly just be that chill idk idk

@@alyshiarodgers4500 you know what you’re right. That could be it.

​@@alyshiarodgers4500 you're def right about that. They would've painted her as violent and aggressive with the quickness.

@@alyshiarodgers4500 honestly I think Mal just possesses a level of self awareness and tranquility that most don’t. She’s always seemed to articulate her feelings in a respectful and eloquent manner. It just seems like her personality. She has class.

I watched the show and the first time she blamed being loud and rude on being latina made me pause and go HUH??!! I’m latina and I just had to stop bc it was just wild to me that she thought that would shut down the conversation and couldn’t be blamed for that

when mildred told Tiff their voice bothered her... OOF that felt very latina mean girl.. it is a culture of cutting as deep as you can.. we need to do better

YES do you know how much work I did as a latine woman raised by a misogynist to create my self worth and realize that just because you grow up with being loud and violent doesn't mean that was ever okay??? And she's gonna be like "lmao I'm latina what did you expect" how about some WORK? SOME REFLECTION? maturity??? That made me hot!! "I'm latina" OOOOOOHHH

​@Bunn i hate it and it pushes negative stereotypes. like why do you get to generalize when you're being critiqued?

Yes, it sounds like Mildred is trying to use a negative stereotype about Latin people to get away with her BS. She doesn’t want to do the work on herself, so she blames an inherent personal characteristic, to absolve herself unconditionally. Maybe this is why she got fired by the therapist lol. Pushing the toxic stereotype is actually harmful. I have had Latina friends over the years and not a single one of them act like Mildred. I like when Tiff said “respect has no race”. That is very true. You will find respectful and disrespectful people from every race. Disrespectfulness is a personality flaw, not a racial issue!

No cuz her friend was literally always right

Yes!! The realest!

She was fine asl too

YESSSS

Same! Plus she's hot af

😮 Bee the bisexual Brazilian 😂

@@mkay4 LMFAO should I change my IG to that?

​@@bzzbzzbee abso-fucking-lutely 🤟🏾😅🥂✨

@@bzzbzzbeeplease do!!!

​@@mkay4 its only right to do so!!

Mal and Sam!

​@@alina.r.oh yes sam as well. The love she must have for aussie to be able to go through with the wedding, I could never

No, she's not a saint, she's a fool. She has no self-respect whatsoever. Like how are you going to propose to someone who tells you they love someone else?? Nah, this shit got me mad.

@@frenchgirl5878 we have the benefit of seeing the full picture. She only has Yoli's word and is choosing to trust her. She broke up with her after watching what we were watching

Mal is no saint, it's just Yoly's ridiculousness came on blast at the reunion

I'm so sorry

I had a friend who is latina and she always blamed her low-key gaslighting/toxic shit and overly sexual behavior (that made many ppl uncomfortable including me) on her being latina and the fact that she was a lesbian so "it was fine". As a white person I didn't say anything about it or say that "that's an excuse for some ratchet behavior" because I was concerned that I might disrespect her and come off racist which is the last thing I ever want to do. Watching Mildred act the way she did and comments like yours helped me realize my friend was just a piece of shit regardless of her race. So i just wanted to say thank you for sharing that piece of your life.

​@@jewelsrebel9744 did you get away from that friend?! What a piece of trash!!

@@staticslater thank God I did but not even for that reason. It was so crazy but I'm glad I got away

@@jewelsrebel9744 I'm glad too

You were very upset and disappointed*, don't prove her negative stereotype right

I'm Dominican and we were all triggered...that's not ok

GIRL AKSNSLKD I kept thinking about it like. you're having a serious conversation abt your relationships future with your partner and you're excusing yourself for acting the way you do with being LATINA????? i would understand if it was some sort of joke but she was pretty serious about it... wth

@@G-LukeJA She was rightfully upset. This isn’t the time to be tone policing

​@@G-LukeJA I dont think you understand how this works. If you see a latinx person express negative emotions and say "that proves stereotypes right" you are simply being racist, my friend.

I don’t like Vanessa but to her credit I feel like the show gave her a reality check that, no not everyone is just going to stay and you can do whatever you want, and you need to figure out what you REALLY want

Yeah I wouldn't be her friend but I think she had some growth

When she finally admitted it was because of the money, that's when I would of left. Mal's fear that Yoli just wanted to be married and it didn't matter who, was 1000% percent confirmed. Yoli has such a shallow view of marriage that she could even consider leaving her partner for *better insurance* .....girl, you were the one that issued the ultimatum??? What the hell are you doing???

Mal was right about Yoli from jump. She is inlove with being in love so anyone would do. Mal definitely deserves better & a lucky woman will snap her up very quickly.

I read elsewhere that Mal cheated on Yoly before the show. So it was more complicated than we were shown.

@@theshunnedBandersnatch this!

​​​@@theshunnedBandersnatch wait really?? cause that would change a lot the way I feel about Mal...AND i'd give Yoli a little nore grace

Apparently they did have access to therapy. Individual and couple.

​​@@ezzb Really? They should've mentioned that, or at least showed the cast going to therapy. (not like a whole therapy session, only just to make the watchers aware that these people are actually getting help).

Probably cause they would tell them to leave the show

yeah that was so cringe it was sad. If you have to say that, the relationship is over.

I understand why she did that tho... Heart breaking

and it came off super manipulative and honestly really strange. like forcing Xander to say it, what the hell behaviour is that.

Vanessa is very manipulative anyway. Xanders "me too" honestly hurted so bad. I'm glad she left that relationship

this comment feels a tad unhinged and Im here for it

LITERALLY ME TOO GIRL

omg same!!! the joyyyy

I have never watched any of these shows but I rewatch all of Kennie's videos on them again and again! T

I’m not a butch lesbian, more femme leaning, but I think you hit the nail on the head here and it’s depressing. Tiff deserved so much better after all that shit.

@@Sophia-rq6oo not butch either but butch hate is too big to ignore honestly

Literally, as soon as she is removed from Mildred, she acts completely normal with other people and has none of the issues. But around the abuser like Mildred, she is forced to be hypervigilant

I think they handled it similarly with the hetero season prior, just kind if glossing over it. I think part of it is because people try to stay out of it when the likelihood of returning to the relationship is unfortunately high. And also because the production company that Netflix uses does not try to accurately show or improve heavy situations.

literally! thank you for saying it

I felt the same about the proposals, especially since the masc presenting ones besides Xander were issued the ultimatum so why would the onus of proposing be on them

To push back a bit - yeah, the enforcement of traditional gender roles doesn't work here, but it doesn't in straight relationships either. I come from a family where my mom is the breadwinner and my dad (having a less demanding full time job) does all the domestic work, house work, time with kids etc. They both work very hard, and the arrangement works for them. But I guarantee you if you flipped it they would be miserable. A partner being a man (even a cis man) shouldn't mean he HAS to be the breadwinner any more than the woman HAS to be a homemaker. Everyone benefits from honestly negotiated divisions of labor tailored to the person rather than the gender.

Yoli was literally the one having to birth the baby and get IVF. On the flip side no masc presenting people even considered being the baby carrier so... if they are reaping privileges (ok yes, less than cis men but still, they benefit off some privileges in endorssing masc ways), then how is it not fair to atleast ask for stability

​@@moonglasses4283 Xander says to Yoly in ep2 that they want to carry a child if it's medically possible, and they have a whole conversation about it on air so I don't think Yoly is a good example. It's a stereotype to assume that just because someone is masc-presenting it means they don't want to carry a child.

@@merefinl6914 I never said that masc presenting people cannot carry a baby and yes, Xander is a great example because they did not use (as much) their masc as an excuse to assume the femme had to always carry the baby, do the emotional labour (like Aussie and Sam), do most of the household chores (like Aussie and Same example, and Mel and Yoli) and be the dominant sex chaser (as in Tiffs case) etc. Nonetheless it isnt assumed that Yoli will not be the carrier at all. There is always assumptions placed on the femme that reinforces misogony. I do not believe in the stereotype so it is bold of you to assume that I do, but Mel, unlike Xander, did reap a bit of privileges from masc stereotypes and advantages in this society, she also expected Yoly to do more of the household labour and acted very much like she was going to change just to win her back and help her ego (all things cis men are very capable off). No wonder Yoli thought of other, more viable options like Xander. If you notice these issues that are present in femme, masc presenting dynamics werent preconcieved notions in the only femme femme couple present so even though their queer, their is still space for misogony, racism and heteronormative practises to permeate. Althought it may still be nuanced it doesnt negate these possibilities as they all still live in such a society.

SDky they did & its something that needs to be addressed. Unfortunately I have never met a lesbian couple without DV & abusive behaviors. It would have made a difference for it to be addressed.

Plain and simple. She can't be honest with other people because she can't be honest with herself.

I noticed that too

And don’t even get me started on Mildred. I just don’t feel like she could be classified as a TV villain instead of just an abuser

Fully agree.

It kind of scares me that people like that will try to force your hand into committing like she did with Mal. Like imagine Mal had agreed to marry her and then Yoli fell for someone a few years down the line? Heartbreaking and such a waste of time & energy. I’m glad Mal (and you) got out of those relationships.

And I fucking bet when you try to leave they come crying to you. UGH!

Why do you guys keep saying "they" instead of "she" for the mascs in the relationship? Is there something I don't know about? No one has said they're nonbinary on the show from what I've seen

@@Ameeratheartist You can use "they" for anyone if you don't know their pronouns or just talking in general lol

@@mznbhd but "she" was used for the femmes which already assumed their pronouns...so why would we assume the mascs pronouns just because they are untraditional women (in the way they dress). Which I think just automatically removes people from womanhood just because they don't apply to gender roles in the same way. But idk, I'm just saying, it's weird people want to get rid of gender binaries instead of letting everyone exist on a spectrum. A woman and a man isn't just one way or one way to be, ykwim?

😂😂😂 🫸🏻 stop lmao she wanted to have a Edward vs Jacob. The difference is both of those dudes were toxic ..Mal isn't perfect obviously but I was rooting for her so hard ❤❤

💕💗💕💗💕

Fr 😭

REAL😭😭

Right like where’s the beat in “Bad movies and a Beat” 😭

Right this look is fire 🔥 ❤

I feel for Aussie, I really do. I've been similarly traumatized but their anger is scary and it's intense. I felt afraid of them just watching them on the show. There's asking for space to cool your jets but people need to be able to say things you don't like without spiraling into an enraged state

Considering what we know about Mildred, it was probably just jarring for Aussie to see such a bolder personality from Sam after having to leave Mildred. Aussie said they didn’t feel safe around Mildred and Mildred having domestic violence charges against her contextualizes that. I don’t think Aussie is good at communication, but I see their outbursts are sadness more than anger. Sam definitely deserves a partner that communicates in a healthier manner though.

@@miscellaneouslife2778 oh yeah, there is definitely sadness there too and I didn't mean to infer Aussie wasn't also a victim of Mildred's. But there were some really intense moments of rage against Sam when she didn't do anything. I would consider that to be abusive because Sam can't put a toe out of line without being punished with stonewalling, anger, and guilt tripping. I genuinely hope they get the therapy they need and learn how to handle difficult emotions. "Meditation" sounds healthy but what Aussie was doing wasn't healthy.

YES, thank you! I see everyone talking about Mildred being abusive (which yes), but Aussie (to me) was also. like you stated earlier, you have to be able to handle when people say/do things you don’t like and/or agree with. Aussie literally would emotionally manipulate Sam to shove her feelings/wants/needs to the side to prioritize Aussie’s feelings/wants/needs. They literally said Sam’s perspective was “bullshit” while simultaneously being upset that Sam wasn’t listening to their perspective??? and to double down on their feelings taking priority, they would just physically leave if that wasn’t the case. Really disgusted by the fact that Aussie’s abusive tendencies were swept under the rug just because they weren’t physically abusive like Mildred.

Aussie and Mildred really aren't that different at their core to me... Aussie just tends to run while Mildred tends to confront. They're both using their childhoods and upbringings as reasons why they can treat others poorly

WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT. I was *floored*. What the hell happened?? Watch me fall down an investigation rabbit hole

Lexi laying it on thick and still responding immaturely to vanessa just saying that shes not in their life and she doesnt plan to be shows that they mightve been having the same argument. Ofc this is just speculation on my part and is not reflective on all sex workers but it feels like Lexi was projecting cause she made a big vulgar fuss about fingergate meanwhile she had an onlyfans where she was fully having sex with other people.

Can be gay.. that's fine

Who stayed together?

@@Disre.damn.spectful Sam and Aussie

I wasn’t rooting for any relationship! And for the most part, the ones who gave the ultimatum where the problematic ones

@@carmindi5061 yeah the best option would have been for everyone to break up and go to therapy

I think Lexi and Rae are still together too at least at the reunion

Nah, that's not cute, that's desperation. Mal is too good looking for this bullshit.

I agree with both of you. Mal deserves better, but Mal needs therapy. Mal needs to treat herself with as much love and respect as she treats her partners.

@@frenchgirl5878 the words are cute imo, the person that she said them to wasn't it though. I definitely agree that Mal deserves better.

@@frenchgirl5878 Mal is definitely attractive, but she deserves better because of her personality, not her looks.

And when you are always working on others feelings you don't look & confront yours.

Thank you for pointing out it is a trauma response, I didn't know that.

Xander definitely chose her though

Now that you say that IT MAKES SENSE

Yuppp very good observation.

And that’s ultimately what happened when you hear their real break up. Yoly phrases it like Mal gave up on her after two weeks and bought a one way ticket away from her. And mal eventually got to the point where she is “happily” broken up. Like, “you made me break up with you and I’m happy about it.”

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She's just manipulative, there's no actual depth. Just trying to get what she wants

@@person7407 yes people aren't perfect but from her actions at the beginning very hard to tell if she's honest & tbf I watched an interview with Xander where they said they wished they didn't keep defending her and even leading up to the reunion Vanessa reached out with an emotionally charged message once the reunion was done crickets, Xander eluded Vanessa had done this so Xander would defend her again, I think Xander finally clocked onto the manipulation I thought that was very telling.

It's possible, but I'm doubtful. Vanessa seems to be so hung up over Xander because she stopped being a doormat and eventually became "the one that got away," unlike Vanessa's previous partners.

Not a new concept tbh. I know it as the “Honeymoon Phase” but yes, very on point for that situation.

@@pinkbutterflies994 Definitely. I think the distinction between the honeymoon phase and new relationship energy is the weird fact that nre can make you super, super invested in spending time with your current partner and make you really into them. Sort of like reawakening your interest in them or rediscovering them. Which is a weird thing. You'd think it would only make you feel blissed out toward your new partner, who is the source of your new energy. But somehow it doesn't always. But yeah the two concepts are definitely the same thing in terms of hormones and elation. It's just that if you're monogamous and you're having, say, an affair, you aren't going to take that new energy toward your current partner (at least, not with them knowing), whereas when you're poly you can. Not that Yoli and Mal were even poly... I'm glad they split.

I do wish they hadn’t been filmed so closely during such a bad moment.

@@mirawinemiller1081 this is how "reality tv" erodes the concept of personal boundaries

Yes me too. I could tell most of the time that Aussie wasn’t engaging in those conversations from a place of feeling safe but from that place of deep self criticism as a result of being in emotionally abusive situations as a kid. Just yeah I have felt the exact same way as them and seeing those personal moments where they were having flashbacks and being seriously triggered definitely triggered me. It also triggered me watching reviews of the show and seeing comments of people misunderstanding Aussie’s behavior as intentionally abusive rather than a serious trauma response. It just reminded me of how invalidating it feels to be emotionally abused and then once you’re out of it you still aren’t able to come across to others enough to have them validate you. Had to talk abt this in therapy too felt like a really harmful choice for them to include such triggering and personal moments of Aussie’s breakdowns on camera

thank you for this comment and the replies. it hurt to see Aussie get so dysregulated so easily; very clear they had a traumatic upbringing that's still affecting them in the present. I'm hoping the best for them.

Me too. It would still be good and we wouldnt have to watch people go through these literal meltdowns, while other cast members are literally being abused. It's not entertaining anymore, when people's mental and physical health is being harmed.

@@moustik31 very reality tv show ever

I saw that they had access to both individual and couple therapy. Which is crazy since all that still happened.

@@ezzb but did they *use* the therapy? Was it good *quality* therapy? Saying somebody needs therapy alone isn’t always going to solve the problem (I say this in full support of therapy!)

Omg same! I was disappointed they didn't review the reunion

i was in the middle of watching that n dropped it for kennie 😭

Same

Probably the latter. I’m not Hispanic, but my father’s side of the family is Slavic and they blame their toxic traits on “cultural temperament” all the time when no, they’re just bad to another.

Literally same. As a black queer person she had my eyes locked on her every time she was on screen 🥴

@@Fluff_Noodles Yesss😍😭

Vanessa is surprising. Wow

Where did you learn that?

Her partner made a promise to not do anything, went up to her wt out being asked and said she'll never. Then she had sex wt vanessa

Lexi is a big boobed psycho. She fully had mal and yolly being her flying monkeys towards Vanessa.

​@@person7407 I feel like that's exactly what makes her so willing to harp on it. She was given extra levels of trust and she even seemed to take things seriously here, but to have Vanessa who seemed to....disinterested in the actual relationship end of things, sweet in and roll around with her partner she's on a break with? Insult to Injury for sure. And if they been together for years, theirs probably alot of disbelief and 'Damn I thought you wouldn't do this in 2 weeks' bouncing around inside.

​@@salamander8301 ????? Why the chi-chis have to catch strays 😩

​@@salamander8301 that first sentence KILLED me

I don’t think it was though considering they had a conversation about Rae not being that type of partner when they were at the table with Lexi’s parents. I think Lexi is just a really immature person

@@artemisrose4374 thank you!! I liked lexi at first but really quickly she showed how cruel, controlling and obsessive she is and hardly anyone has said anything about it!!

Lexi is just a Co trolling psycho. Rae looks completely defeated arou d her, she seemed to come alive living with Vanessa

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@@s4rah9 Y'all are way too quick to use the word "cruel". Bitch if you consider that tv reality shit "cruel" then you must be very privileged because wtf...

I was very sympathetic to Vanessa because I was Vanessa at some point in my life. 😂 It's basically the "not like other girls" mentally but without the purpose of attracting a man/partner. Like she's annoying on purpose because then she will never have to face the possibility of someone disliking her real self.

Vanessa is definitely someone i don't like personality-wise but i barely see anyone say she needs therapy as well (as all the cast do) cause its been apparent from the start that shes a deeply insecure person who puts on that boisterous loud front + commitment issues so she can have some control when it doesnt work out. her father clocked her when he said she needs to check her ego and hopefully her seeing her own behavior displayed can get her to work on herself.

i agree, and i think her response after the reunion to mildred’s abuse supporting tiff and calling out mildred shows she’s a good person that just got caught up in a mess of her own selfish behaviour

This is so valid. When we hear work we hear struggle but you shouldn't have to fight for your relationship. You should be fighting to hold your own self accountable. And if your partner stops doing so, you are well within your rights to leave. That's what ppl need to hear.

I totally agree I think if mal saw what we saw from Yoli she would of chose herself though.