Never Again... Installing an Exhaust Fan

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@minecraftbuilderify Жыл бұрын

It's wild to me as someone who lives in a cold wet climate (UK) that you just vent the shower into the ceiling & not ducted directly outside. The moisture would cause serious issue in our roof space

@TehPwnerer Жыл бұрын

Attic would be a mold/mildew infestation & nasty mess in no time here in Canada, everything here is ducted outside.

@XxTWMLxX Жыл бұрын

And the fact the electric fan is right inside the shower.

@moeswartz888 Жыл бұрын

That's how it should be. I can't believe how it is done here, I think it's totally stupid.

@IIGrayfoxII Жыл бұрын

The soffits under the eves normally have ventilation holes

@samiraperi467 10 ай бұрын

I suspect it does in UK too, they just don't give a F. They somehow haven't realized in general how to build properly.

@nobodycares85 Жыл бұрын

I reckon I probably could have fixed that old fan by cleaning it thoroughly (including cleaning the bearings) and applying new greese. Most people wouldn't bother anyway but I came from a background of not being able to just replace stuff so we made everything last forever.

@bailey125 Жыл бұрын

Same here. I have an old treadmill that decided to die. Everyone was telling me to just throw it out and buy a new one... A bit of diagnostics later and managed to fix it for less than £2 by soldering on a new diode.

@nobodycares85 Жыл бұрын

@@bailey125 I reckon you would get along well with my brother, between us all, there isn't much that can't be fixed

@bailey125 Жыл бұрын

@@nobodycares85 Just another example, today I fixed my 20 year old pressure washer that stopped working for only £3. Just needed a replacement capacitor. happy days!

@gojohnson2511 Жыл бұрын

On the topic of not paying for stuff, my brother found a microwave on the side of the road once where the insulating plate thing that sits in front of the magnetron got burnt up and would arc when cooking. 5 dollars later it's replaced and we have a better microwave than the one we had before.

@nobodycares85 Жыл бұрын

@@gojohnson2511 that's awesome

@jesseewing7948 Жыл бұрын

Surprised to see that the exhaust fan wasn't duct out the house like all the ones I've encountered in the US (that were properly installed.)

@Anthraxnz64 Жыл бұрын

i thought the same thing. In New Zealand we duct them outside usually. Maybe it is an age thing

@noelcollins1960 Жыл бұрын

Depends on how well ventilated the roof space is. Ducts can cause a whole other issue as no one ever cleans them. In units and apartments they usually have a central exhaust system which runs continuous at low flow to reduce noise and also reduces the amount of lint and dust drawn into the duct.

@michaelmay5453 Жыл бұрын

As a Swede where that would be required I don't get it either. That'll just blow all moisture from the bathroom right into the insulation in the attic and wreak havoc over time as it rots away the wood up there. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

@michaelmay5453 Жыл бұрын

@@noelcollins1960 In Sweden, in high rises and apartments those are cleaned out by the chimney sweeper once a year or the fire hazard insurance trips if something should happen. Doesn't even matter if that was what caused the fire, you're fucked either way. They are not low flow, they are just fairly quiet because of the distance between the extractor fans and the vent. So we do that and we use fairly straight bound metal piping or plastic but nothing anything will stick to on the way out. I've owned this home for over 30 years now, one look up there and there is nothing there, there are filters on the way and nothing will stick to that exhaust, it'll just fall down instead. Routing it to the attic over here would be insane, the temperature varies between +35 C in the summer and -40 C in the winter. You don't want well ventilated attics at -40, you want 45cm of insulation x2 and an air gap in between.

@nickblyth166 Жыл бұрын

I’ve done 3 exhaust fan placements around the house. Sometimes they can be a pain to unplug depending on where the socket is. One of the fans didn’t spin anymore and the other 2 were so slow that they weren’t very effective.

@darren424242 Жыл бұрын

As a worker in the transmission network in NSW I'm looking forward to seeing the transmission line video.

@noelcollins1960 Жыл бұрын

At least it wasn't a fan/light/heater combo. Those and ceiling fans are why I tell people I don't do private jobs.

@mp-xt2rg 11 ай бұрын

Venting straight into the attic. I love moldy rafters....

@thinklist 11 ай бұрын

I know, it’s ridiculous

@michaelmay5453 Жыл бұрын

2 weeks later and you've more than doubled the number of subs. This works exponentially so don't stop now. I wouldn't be surprised if you hit 50k by the end of December. This is good content and good content is always rewarded here.

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

That’s so much mate. I really appreciate the support 💪

@michaelmay5453 Жыл бұрын

@@thinklist I appreciate your videos so thank you for that. Good content is damn hard to find in this place these days.

@zyeborm Жыл бұрын

Pro tip, never install a fan directly above the shower. The condensation will drip into you and you'll get cold drips in your warm shower. Put it off to the side but still just inside the shower area (or over the sink or floor drain) so the dips land inside something that is ok with the water.

@noodlelynoodle. Жыл бұрын

I get drips falling from anywhere on the ceiling over the shower not just the fan

@noelcollins1960 Жыл бұрын

Best place for the fan is diagonally opposite the door so it draws the air under the door and across the whole room.

@zyeborm Жыл бұрын

@@noodlelynoodle. you need more fan lol. Do check through that there's actually enough room for air to get into the room so the fan works. Been to plenty of places where the door seals really tight. Which is great but means the fan doesn't have anywhere to draw air from. Cut a cm off the bottom of the door, the fan stays quiet when you close the door and the steam actually gets vented. Quick Fix is open a window a little.

@noodlelynoodle. Жыл бұрын

@@zyeborm the steam vents fine and there's well over a cm of space at the bottom when the door is closed and I almost always have the window fully open so I dunno it doesn't really matter tho

@andrewcochrane7538 Жыл бұрын

Monash Clayton has a hv lab which would make for an interesting follow up to the react series think lightning test lab. A visit to the synchrotron could make for compelling content too…

@Elemental-IT Жыл бұрын

the ENTIRE reason I don't do repairs around my house is the THOUGHT of getting a ladder makes me hate being alive lolol... glad I am not alone. BTW, that fan would have masked a hippo taking a poo, JEEZ!

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Transformed what’s up💪 sorry I haven’t gotten back to a couple of your other comments. It kinda been crazy the last few weeks. 😆🦛💩 oh man it was squealing it’s head off.

@Alpha866 Жыл бұрын

Here in the US all of the ones I've run into are ducted so if you have to replace the box it's a real hassle. I usually just replace the motor and blade.

@zyeborm Жыл бұрын

I just did mine using an inline duct fan rather than one of those. Much quieter too

@user2C47 Жыл бұрын

As someone on a limited budget, I probably would have just cleaned and oiled the existing fan.

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

I mean the bearing looked pretty cooked. Not sure it was salvageable

@roland985 Жыл бұрын

Remove the bearing cap, regrease it, or find another skateboard bearing. Alternatively just replace it, it's not worth wondering if the insulation on the motor windings has started to wear down, it's a fire hazard.

@zyeborm Жыл бұрын

They are normally bushings, by the time they make a noise they are toast. Replacements for most can be had for like $30 at times. Not worth messing around with lol

@user2C47 Жыл бұрын

@@zyeborm The few times I've had to do it, a bit of used engine oil at least made it _quiet_ toast, for a while.

@zyeborm Жыл бұрын

@@user2C47 it'll work for a while sure, but I'm lazy lol I don't want to be getting up there every 6 months geez.

@roland985 Жыл бұрын

I changed my own lightswitch today. It's illegal in Australia but I DGAF, I put a better switch in and this time the cables weren't loose, the professional installers hadn't torqued the screws down and I was wondering where that smell was coming from. DIY electrical is sadly illegal, but for like-for-like replacements is typically a child's play. Just do a decent job.

@vk3fbab Жыл бұрын

The interesting thing is that across the ditch in NZ they also had and maybe still have AS/NZ 3000 for their writing rules. They like a lot of countries allow certain works to be done by DIYers so long as the work meets the standard.

@zyeborm Жыл бұрын

@@vk3fbab they have the same standard as here and the same rate of electrical death despite our requirement of professionals only. Also last I checked as the standard is part of the law in NZ it's available for the public to view. NZ taking the weird view that people should be able to see the laws they are required to obey.

@noelcollins1960 Жыл бұрын

Yes sometimes electrical work can be a bit shoddy, especially in new construction where the electricians subby to the builder who is only interested in lowest cost. Most electricians who do work direct to homeowner will usually be fair and honest because they rely on each customer to be happy enough to call them again and recommend them to others.

@HungryTradie Жыл бұрын

@@zyeborm the law you have to comply with is the "electrical safety act". It references AS3000 (and others). If you have a free membership at your local council library you can access the Australian Standards (to read, you may not save/copy them....) TAFE (NSW) students have online access as part of their TAFE fees.

@codcontent69 Жыл бұрын

Underrated channel

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Cheers mate

@codcontent69 Жыл бұрын

@@thinklist keep going i love your vids you can react to styro pyro's vid on a 2d version of the plazma ball

@autistazoeiro Жыл бұрын

I just hope it's not as bad as it sounds, for God's sake, it's just a simple fix! Big hug from your new fan! I think I'm the first Brazilian to subscribe to your channel

@mikeselectricstuff Жыл бұрын

If you're looking for some insanely dangerous stuff to react to , look at some of Kerosan's older vids from a few years ago.

@vilhelmetgamez Жыл бұрын

I find it funny whenever I go to Bunnings

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

How come?

@vilhelmetgamez Жыл бұрын

@@thinklist I'm not really sure

@radondar9230 Жыл бұрын

This is crazy. Shut off mains to the entire house for just a fan? Even crazier is there is no venting duct.

@vk3fbab Жыл бұрын

Does ESV require you to provide yourself a certificate of electrical safety in this case? Our because no money changed hands it wasn't required or because it was a trivial plug swap? I know that I'm supposed to issue a TCA1 form for any telecoms cabling I do at home. Easier for me to write one up if anybody cared. Curious what sparkies have to deal with.

@noelcollins1960 Жыл бұрын

Different states in Australia have different rules, but as this was a plug in fan and didn"t require any wiring work it would not even require an electrical licence. Usually the only time the inspecting authorities are supposed to be notified is if it is new or additional work.

@nickc6882 Жыл бұрын

TradeMutt shirt 👌

@Martin-oo4kn Жыл бұрын

Not electrics, but you should do some reaction video to "drain cleaning Australia"

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Not a bad suggestion mate

@Artoooooor Жыл бұрын

Did you say "Let's get cracking" :o?

@LuckyX0182 Жыл бұрын

could have just replaced the bearing and save perfectly fine motor from landfill

@foogod4237 Жыл бұрын

Sorry, but "tip number 1" really should be "never stand directly under a grate, ceiling lamp assembly, etc, which you are taking off". You will always get disgusting crap falling all over you if you do, no matter how careful you are. I always forget this one until it's too late, too. IMHO, tip 2 should also be: "Whenever possible, turn off the power in at least two different ways." For example, in this case, make sure that both the switch and the breaker are in the "off" position before starting work. (If you're working on something that doesn't have a switch, then turn off _both_ the main panel breaker and the sub-breaker leading to that circuit, etc) That way even if somehow one of them gets switched back on (or you flipped the wrong one somehow, or something's wired up in an unexpected way, etc), you're still likely protected. I would also point out that just because there's an outlet involved _does not mean that safety stops at the outlet._ Yes, it has a plug on it, but that is still an exposed fan assembly you are fiddling with in your hands, and depending on how well it's put together you could very well come in contact with bare wires in the fan itself, regardless of whether it has a plug or not on it. You're basically working on a plug-in appliance while it's plugged in with its case open (in this case, the "case" is the ceiling itself), so yes, you do still need to make sure power is appropriately disconnected. It's not just the romex in the wall that can kill you.

@gunderd Жыл бұрын

Does code allow a fan to be directly over a shower in a wet zone like that? Also a bit disappointing that it's just vented into the roof (we had a similar fan replaced with an inline unit)

@Phantomthecat Жыл бұрын

Yes, fan is allowed above the shower here in Australia. Not ideal into the roof but very common and generally no issues with it doing this.

@noelcollins1960 Жыл бұрын

As per AS/NZS 3000 the Wet Zone only extends vertically to the ceiling. As all the electrical components are above the ceiling it is ok.

@gunderd Жыл бұрын

@@noelcollins1960 right, but isn't there an exclusion zone around the shower head or some such too? I dunno, it's all a bit confusing. I think the rules may have changed recently; either that or we were sold an inline unit we didn't need 😔. Or maybe it's just a matter of our installer being overly cautious.

@noelcollins1960 Жыл бұрын

@@gunderd The zoning starts at the fixed plumbing point for the shower. They used to specify all positions for the shower head which made sense if you had a 1.8m hand held shower head, but they have since dropped that. Side note - I met my wife because of wet area zoning. She is an Occupational Therapist who redesigns house for people with disabilities and she asked me to go through the wet area zonings for her. That was 27 years ago.

@juanfelipecopete9368 Жыл бұрын

Well done. One question. What is the electrical code in your country? Greetings from Colombia South America

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Gday mate, in Australia we use AS3000. Thanks for supporting the channel

@Phantomthecat Жыл бұрын

What’s the Puppy Dogs name? We need more footage of him/her. I’ve just subbed to your channel last week and as a fellow Industrial Electrician here in Melbourne I’m loving your content. 👍

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

His name is Woody 🐶 thanks for the support mate. Where are you working?

@Phantomthecat Жыл бұрын

@@thinklist I’m in the generator hire game these days over the Western burbs, but I started out many moons ago with the SEC down the Latrobe Valley.

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

@@Phantomthecat I dream of a day the SEC is back in action. Such a shame what happened. That generator game can be quite cutthroat

@muppetpaster Жыл бұрын

3:25 measure up EXACTLY the diameter.....It is ABOUT.....🙈🙈🙈😂😂😂

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

😆 not my first rodeo

@mitchellcollins6834 Жыл бұрын

You should have gone with airflow

@EasternEuropeParadise Жыл бұрын

Moist air blown straight to the wooden rafters? A very, very bad idea. It is worth making some simplest duct transporting this air directly outside. The fan is needed to replace the humid air with fresh air from the fresh air source, I don't see the point of hanging it directly above the shower to remove the humid air immediately. Dripping drops, which you can read about in the comments, result from the condensation of water vapor that occurs because the air in the exhaust duct is cold. Advice? Use an insulated ventilation pipe.

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

I know we are messed up in Australia

@EasternEuropeParadise Жыл бұрын

@@thinklist My dad, a carpenter with 30 years of experience, always laughs when he watches programs about houses in England or Australia. He laughs and calls them "paper shit". But hey, it's just a joke😅. And your channel is great, you talk about electric things so well.

@FlammableElectronics Жыл бұрын

Howdy

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

Gday 👍

@hattree Жыл бұрын

You probably could have just vacuumed that off and oiled it, and put it back.

@thinklist Жыл бұрын

🤔 ahh not sure it would have lasted to long

@hattree Жыл бұрын

@@thinklist it would depend on the bearings, but a lot of noisy motors just are asking for some oil.

@Greg.... Жыл бұрын

So, yes domestic work sucks. Everything is twice as difficult, you typically get 9 times dirtier, and you get paid ½ as much. So thats why i did high rise comercial and industrial. So good advice for the diyer as to just killing the mains, but still. Even though your unplugging from a 413, being youtube you probably should have shown some form of test for dead even though you already knew. Diy people dont often know anything. Im sure had it not been a video knowing it was in a socket you would have just done it with the switch off, if it was hard wired, hit the circuit. Hitting the main switch, now you have to work out how to set the time on both your oven and microwave.....