I really hope Intel and AMD gets into this as well. And I wish Twitch would let viewers choose between both soundtracks you can send to them, so they can choose to not have the music if not desired.
@DeadPiixxel7 ай бұрын
Amd has this
@ravenmooore6 ай бұрын
I'm using an AMD 7000 I stream AV1 to KZfaq. But I often just play on Twitch using X264(Cpu) and record at the same time in AV1 (to upload toKZfaq later) No issues. My issue is Nvidia is making it an EXCLUSIVE FEATURE for RTX40 users on Twitch... WTF ?
@Yurrtoby4 ай бұрын
@@ravenmoooreWhich feature, the multi audio track feature or the transcoding feature?
@Munelite7 ай бұрын
Thank goodness, finding the perfect stream settings took so much of my time to set up, changing it from 1080 to 720 cause of my connection was annoying.
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
Indeed
@HonestAuntyElle7 ай бұрын
@@Triroimagine changing the stream quality and you see a completely different stream. User encoding of transcodes means you could do things like multiple angles.
@HonestAuntyElle7 ай бұрын
@@Triro I know that's not the point, I'm not dumb. But unless there's a hard tech thing stopping them with the way the encoding works, someone will do it just for fun.
@HonestAuntyElle7 ай бұрын
@@Triro I understand completely what's happening, and excited for fun, unintuitive possibilities. Seems like you've drunk the anti-corp koolaid a little hard, I really don't see how letting users have more control over transcodes is bad, especially for small streamers where previously offering transcodes wasn't profitable for twitch. Yes it's a cost saving measure. But that doesn't mean it's inherently evil. I don't understand why you are so mad about "performance" most gaming PCs still have hardware that isn't being fully utilised for encode sessions.
@pcoverthink7 ай бұрын
As a guy who works in the hardware industry, I have as much faith in this auto codec/resolution/bitrate tuner as in auto OC features when they were just introduced. Setting everything manually will most likely be a better solution for the next 5 years.
@fantaz_official7 ай бұрын
Agreed.. We will still be able to choose manual settings for multi-stream outputs right?
@pcoverthink7 ай бұрын
@@fantaz_official hopefully
@fantaz_official7 ай бұрын
@@Alex-uc7ty Source? EposVox literally said that non-partners streamers will get the option to transcode on their own. It's not a question of cutting costs, since they need to allow for higher bitrate for multi stream outputs 🤦♂️
@pcoverthink7 ай бұрын
@@Alex-uc7ty you mean non partners won't be able to send multiple streams? Because non partners always had only source quality
@fantaz_official7 ай бұрын
@@Alex-uc7ty The non sense I wrote? You're the one trying to argue in YT comments. 😂 I just asked a simple question.. oh and by the way, can you read? "No, we will continue to provide transcode options to partners." I don't see how they're cutting costs here, it's not like partners will need to transcodes on their own now, they're just giving the options to Non-partners to have transcoding, which is 100% going to use more bandwidth on their server as well 🤦♂️ I think Epos knows what he's talking about, you on the other hand don't have a clue. You clearly haven't listened carefully. He said the cap is 4-10mbps FOR NOW. They might end up increasing even more, and without AV1 at that. We aren't getting AV1 yet! So clearly they'll need more than 10mpbs for h264 streams (even h265). Next time keep your silly comments if you don't have anything useful to say... 😂
@_B.C_7 ай бұрын
Buys intel arc gpu to gain access to early twitch av1 encoding… Twitch makes it nvidia only first…
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
Feelsbadman
@estebanguerrero6827 ай бұрын
Sadge @@EposVox
@gruuli7 ай бұрын
AV1 is rly impressive, on youtube i was always recording my videos with h.264 and 265 at 24.000 bitrate for 1440p60, but with AV1 i can go down to 12.000 bitrate or even less and it still looks like 24.000 bitrate wich is also nice bec. the upload time for a video is much faster. btw on 7800 XT
@TheHighborn7 ай бұрын
meanwhile: I record 1440p UW @30k bitrate with AV1
@Maxoverpower7 ай бұрын
Something that should be a bigger focus when talking about this is the fact that those streamer-provided NVENC 720p / 480p encodes will absolutely look better than the current Twitch transcodes, to the point that the average viewer should easily be able to tell the difference, but I'm sure we'll see that when people start testing it. Twitch's transcoding infrastructure is lagging behind current consumer HW encoders in quality, and one compression pass is always better than two. On a different note, is there any word on whether the 4070 Super will have 1 or 2 NVENC chips? 4070 has 1 and 4070 TI has 2.
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
4070 super has 1 The ti super has 2
@VideogamesAsArt7 ай бұрын
@@EposVox oh too bad, so they cut the 4070 Super from that too. I was hoping since it's much less cut down than the 4070, it would retain the dual encoders, but PRODUCT SEGMENTATION I guess
@benw37687 ай бұрын
@@VideogamesAsArt 4070 Super uses an AD104 die, whereas the 4070 TI Super uses a cut down AD103 die, which is why there's a difference in NVENC encoders. AD103 is used by the 4080/4080 Super as well.
@VideogamesAsArt7 ай бұрын
@@benw3768 I know that. My point was with the 4070Ti. That one uses the AD103 die, and yet still has double encoders as far as we know
@jilherme7 ай бұрын
@@EposVoxwhat's the advantage of having 2? isn't good enough?
@ThatNerdChris7 ай бұрын
I like playing with the OBS encoding settings and want every % of quality possible, did they give any word on if this will be disabled?
@NuDimon7 ай бұрын
It seems like a new "optional" OBS feature really. If there's no configurability at all imho this can be a bit of a detriment and not just a boon. Hoping we get to have our cake and eat it too in this case.
@goldnx7 ай бұрын
Love the AV1 hat haha. Happy Twitch is finally making moves. Slowly but surely!
@donjuan32966 ай бұрын
the pre-hype is getting boring. the announcement of the announcement of the announcement. just launch the damn thing already.
@Bottlecap7 ай бұрын
I wish you had some kind of a direct call tech support line. Literally anytime I have questions or issues with recording settings and stuff, you're the only channel I even bother looking at lmao.
@robsteady7 ай бұрын
I haven't streamed in about two years, but I'm still a huge fan of the technology and I'm super excited about this announcement!
@TeaOS7 ай бұрын
Lets fucking GO!
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
WHOO!
@ArtisWar7 ай бұрын
I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS! Thank you for the content!
@AvWoN7 ай бұрын
I want control, I am worried that you are only allowed to use AV1 and multi-track video streams if you let Twitch control it. I personally want one normal stream, for me that would be one h264 1008p (my current setup, ill prob even go back to 936p) and the better 1440p or 1008p AV1 track. Thats all I need, and it would be a dream come true. I am not looking to do 3 or more encodes, I feel like any lower res transcodes are unnecessary for an FPS stream
@sicariusk97 ай бұрын
Something I keyed into was when you mentioned auto captioning. Native auto captioning will be nice especially if it can label closed captions by source. Seeing how Teams transcribes meetings by person is awesome. I can only imagine a discord transcription plug in that ties to OBS and can do captions per person (as an option, or limit it to the just the streamer)
@impuls607 ай бұрын
1080p is MINIMUM of what I bother to watch. Setting the bar lower.. why? AV1 and a secondary Arc card seems like a good option for high quality streaming.
@WarMomPT7 ай бұрын
Oh, NVENC HEVC as well? That's interesting - as I understood it, the push for AV1 was because it didn't require licensing that H265 / HEVC did, and why people didn't recommend streaming it to KZfaq as well IIRC. In my experience (with Plex stuff), H265 itself is a *wild* jump in efficiency over 264, and suddenly, the notion of having a ladder at 2.5-3.5mbps - when almost everything out there has a H265 decoder - sounds immediately a lot better. No more number-crunching!
@jadadpe38736 ай бұрын
So does this mean we get HEVC for streaming to twitch with AMD gpus as well?
@johnnythegeek7 ай бұрын
Black fram insertion is what DyAc is on Zowie monitors. It's been around for years. But I guess this is different since it's coming from the GPU.
@WilliamNFMS7 ай бұрын
Very glad Twitch is finally taking a step forward in some capacity towards AV1. I have some questions though about the performance impact streaming multiple video feeds would have on a single pc stream setup. I am slightly disappointed that this will be a NVIDIA only feature for the time being as I am using AMD, but what's new there honestly? Hopefully that opens up to AMD and Intel at some point in the near future. I really hope that they will be able to figure this out without too much issue, it is Twitch though so I'm not going to say there won't be any issues. Either way it is good to see that they are at least trying to stay competitive with KZfaq in the viewer's quality experience. It feels like a compromise but at least it is a start.
@CuervoVirtual6 ай бұрын
Twitch supporting HEVC will make it worthwhile even to stream with older GPUs like a GTX 960 - 1060 or AMD RX 460 - 580 etc ... (with the GPUs connected to a secondary PC dedicated to the stream) using HEVC at 6000-8000 kbps 1080p60 fps ..., should make the stream quality look very good.
@refuze4k7 ай бұрын
The future of streaming is coming, CHO CHO HYPE TRAIN!!
@Nocturnz7 ай бұрын
So @EposVox I did see the OBS dev going at 12k bitrate at 1440p60 , 6k bitrate for 1080p60 and 3.5k bitrate for 720p60 and 1k bitrate for 480p30.
@rodneyturnerphoto7 ай бұрын
This is how you start off 2024!!! Some great news.
@hareblix7 ай бұрын
The conductor hat 🤣 Top tier.
@thatguyStrike7 ай бұрын
I wish they'd offer multiple audio tracks to choose from. This would be wild for esports broadcasts.
@Energyone7 ай бұрын
Haven't dug into it, does this mean all the strain gets put on the streamer's setup and their bandwidth?
@toggleton63657 ай бұрын
This means that you as streamer do the encoding work on your GPU and send multiple streams to twitch. And they do the rest of the traffic to serve it to the hundreds/thousand viewers. Depending on the quality of your network connection, the automatic stream configuration algorithm configures OBS Studio to encode 3 separate video qualities with aggregate bitrates between 4 Mbps to 10 Mbps
@Energyone7 ай бұрын
@@toggleton6365 Yeah this sounds like it only helps Twitch save money.
@toggleton63657 ай бұрын
@@Energyone Hopefully they give some of that saved money as a better share back to the streamers that use it.
@Energyone7 ай бұрын
@@toggleton6365 I guess that might be awhile. It sounds like it's buggy and it might be months before complete, according to their post. Once stable... maybe? They've done stuff like that before even though it is really rare historically.
@AlejandroSuntay7 ай бұрын
Super stoked to see what this ends up becoming. Pushing the boundaries of tech is my favorite part about the streaming hobby. Thanks EposVox 👊🏽
@Cheynanigans__7 ай бұрын
This is nothing more than Twitch/Amazon offloading the cost of transcoding to the streamers. Seeing this as anything other than that is pure delusion. AV1/HEVC could've easily been supported with transcoding on Twitch side.
@kidman25057 ай бұрын
straight up doing 5 streams off my gt710 via patch
@MShadeWeeb7 ай бұрын
omg, finally! Been waiting forever! Saw the tweet and knew you were going to talk about it immediately!!!
@MattEatsMochi7 ай бұрын
another Dan Clancy W??? I never thought I'd see a twitch comeback but now... I'm starting to believe.
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
Same tbh
@FlyingShoe7 ай бұрын
Nice Level1Techs shirt!
@tyrand7 ай бұрын
Yeah I don't see the hype around this, seems like Twitch just wants to offload the re-encoding to people with applicable hardware. Twitch already gives quality options for partnered / affiliate and otherwise low-to-mid viewership (10+) streams, I suppose the GPU encoding via AV1 would be better quality but only because Twitch has no current plans to use AV1 when re-encoding to the lower resolutions? If they are then this is even more niche. In my experience people would rather stream such low-viewership streams via Discord which has mediocre quality settings. (4K, 1080p 30/60, and 720p60 all try to use a constant bitrate of 8000Kbps, with no official option to change it) I know that's a different problem but Nvidia have just worked with Discord when they released AV1 streaming on Discord, also feels like this would have been a more appropriate scenario to test this technology.
@HonestAuntyElle7 ай бұрын
I wonder if the delay for AV1 is whether this is the break-even point for twitch. No transcodes, lower bandwidth for existing streams OR boosting higher quality, potentially through a paywall. Played right, it could really fix their margins
@w4stedspace7 ай бұрын
Was hyped... then remember that with my dual rig setup, the 40 series card is in the wrong machine... and ofc it is... :( and no, Jensen.... having just called my $1200 card the locked and not fully-featured version vs the 4080 super, I don't think I'll be buying another 40 series.
@Ranguvar137 ай бұрын
I hope hardware AV1 and HEVC encoders catch up in quality to software x264 soon. You can see in your test clip, the text on the back wall is far more legible with the “inferior” format, even after YT recompression, because x264 is so well polished. I would wager even “medium” preset or possibly “fast” could still win. Of course it taxes your CPU, but I’ve still not seen AV1 that can compare for fine detail retention in relatively uniform areas.
@TheXev7 ай бұрын
I don't have an internet connection that really allows me to handle multitrack video, but I would feel better if I could stream AV1 and have Twitch transcode that instead. Even AV1 at 1080p60 3500kbps would result in a massively improved stream for my viewers, and currently I can only do that to KZfaq and not Twitch. I am also disappointed that Twitch is still going to be using RTMP and not SRT. My connection has huge issues with latency variance (StarLink), so SRT was resulting in a much better connection for myself in the testing I did with Castr (another restreamer service similar to restream io). I would still drop packets via SRT, but my streams latency would remain intact instead of lengthening, which is much better imo then having the stream "catch up" under RTMP.
@TheRealClaylex7 ай бұрын
The one I'm curious about is will this work for peeps who wanna multistream? I'm leaning more on "Nah its not gonna work."
@Djentlman7 ай бұрын
Looking forward to your breakdown and settings for 40 series cards. Im hoping to encode 4k60, 1080p60, and 720p60 with AV1
@Jed057 ай бұрын
You think this leads to Twitch eventually pulling transcoding and offloading it to the end user? I'm sure it would save them money in a way.
@Sintilla7 ай бұрын
The help article they posted states that they will still offer transcodes to all partners at least
@Doug-mu2ev7 ай бұрын
So awesome! Thanks for getting the lowdown on this!
@tech360gamer7 ай бұрын
Yesss. Thanks for doing the video. Finally things are getting into motion hypeee
@K9PT7 ай бұрын
This only for 10-20% of people that streaming!..Transcoding is KZfaq for years!
@olnnn7 ай бұрын
It's crappy that it's only for nvidia (and only 40 series at first?) - hopefully since OBS is free software maybe ther ewill be some way around it with other encoders.
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
These betas are always Nvidia first. Its fine
@Cytrus2247 ай бұрын
AV1 is locked behind rtx40. Beta is open to everyone starting with gtx900 series.
@Argick7 ай бұрын
I am really excited to see AV1 encoding start to make it way to Twitch. I've got a 4080 and I've never hit a sign up button faster for that beta. It'll be interesting to see how it all goes. Curious about what Twitch will doing with their own transcoding. If this is a success then will it see a push to offload some of the transcoding costs off Twitch and let us handle it? Regardless. I've got my ticket for the AV1 hype train.
@ZeGamingOfficial7 ай бұрын
Looks like its time to get an av1 card now
@World_Theory7 ай бұрын
The multi-quality stream mode for Twitch is pretty exciting!
@donjuan32967 ай бұрын
HOLY SHIIIIIT. I was just wondering about this today. AWESOMEEE
@alecksgates7 ай бұрын
I wonder if Twitch wants to work toward removing automatic transcoding on behalf of streamers. It would really help them cut costs.
@Jodicus7 ай бұрын
Very curious how multiple transcode streams being sent will effect GPU usage on the user.
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
It'll scale encoder usage but not much else. But that's what the beta is for!
@deathdrop7 ай бұрын
Honestly true im going to test it eventually not sure when tho
@Zordonzig7 ай бұрын
So only Ngreedia GPUs get to use AV1 on twitch? Wonder how much that cost them.
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
Only Nvidia GPUs are focused on for this initial wave of the beta test.
@Zordonzig7 ай бұрын
@@EposVox can't wait for AMD and Intel to get support for it after Nvidia has been enjoying it for 2 years. /S What's another couple years of waiting for Twitch to mature. Fingers crossed this "beta test" ends quickly and EVERYONE gets to enjoy better looking streams sooner rather than later.
@CreateNowSleepLater7 ай бұрын
How do you think this impacts re-streaming? If I recall, your advice was to primarily use KZfaq in OBS and send the other streams (Twitch, Kick) through the RMTP plug in. I was actually considering using KZfaq (before this video), then use restream to send to Twitch/Kick through the RMTP plug in.
@toggleton63657 ай бұрын
The FAQ sounds like Restreaming will not work in this Beta sadly. Simulcasting Restreaming Third-party video platforms that relay your RTMP video streams will not work initially with the new Enhanced RTMP As a result, streamers relying on third-party services will need to stream directly to Twitch until third-party platforms integrate support for the Multitrack feature within Enhanced RTMP.
@Uki2QT7 ай бұрын
Damn now we can get even higher quality commercials from twitch 😂
@PeterYacono7 ай бұрын
Exciting vid. Cheers
@aditrex7 ай бұрын
why would i max out my streaming pc just to let them know whats best settings when i already know whats the best setting for twitch with their pathetic upload limit
@refl3xes8357 ай бұрын
Sorry if I missed this in the video, but do we know if AV1 will be expanded to older RTX cards, or remain 40-series exclusive indefinitely? My stream PC has only a 2080super but I'd like to do AV1 one day, my gaming PC has a 4080 but I don't want to migrate to a single PC setup just yet. Thanks!
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
AV1 encoders are a physical hardware change, they cannot be added to older cards
@refl3xes8357 ай бұрын
Good to know, thank you! Great video as always! @@EposVox
@SolidMGSnake7 ай бұрын
Nice way to start of the new year
@Mattscreative7 ай бұрын
Cool but multi audio tracks would be just as cool
@IcepickXIII7 ай бұрын
I just want a third audio track for Shadowplay! Mixing audio would be so much easier if I could isolate the game, mic and discord into their own tracks
@MarcRitzMD7 ай бұрын
This is AWESOME.
@MarcRitzMD7 ай бұрын
@@Alex-uc7ty that's the dumbest possible take
@WhatAboutZoidberg7 ай бұрын
Congrats, this was a big one coming.
@klikkerTV7 ай бұрын
so can I use my 7900 XTX AMD GPUs AV1 encoder for this?
@Jackson-bh1jw7 ай бұрын
sir this is an NVIDIA conference, so they will only show their products duh.
@niverive847 ай бұрын
I bought an Intel A380 for my streaming PC for AV1 encoding, can't wait to actually use it.
@kenneyaf7 ай бұрын
Seeing as how I'm locked in at 12Mbps upload for at least 3 years (according to AT&T), I'll be disadvantaged in an already difficult market. Makes so sense for me. I may have to sell my house and move.
@kenneyaf7 ай бұрын
Also as an Affiliate I've had transcode 100% of the time. It provides no benefit in terms of channel performance. So why shift the transcoding onto my PC and also require more bandwidth I don't have and is not available to me?
@Sintilla7 ай бұрын
wait really? fuck that. i'd call at&t and demand better internet service, that's crazy they can lock you in?! i've never heard of that. granted, my old ISP (spectrum) started throttling my upload speeds, played dumbed when i called them out and so i ended my service and got a different provider who had fiber in my neighborhood. i'd definitely explore switching ISPs and seeing what else is offered in your neighborhood because that sucks. best of luck!
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
You don’t HAVE to do anything…
@kenneyaf7 ай бұрын
@@EposVox Except watch other streams look better than mine due to new tech that isn’t available in my area. I’m sorry I just don’t understand.
@azurthedragon7 ай бұрын
@@EposVox Partners only might keep Twitch transcode. Affiliates and everyone else will have to provide his own transcoding. The only benefit is on Twitch side.
@isekaiguy697 ай бұрын
One baby step at a time
@JateLIVE7 ай бұрын
This is the best late-Christmas gift! All of this is such great news!
@JateLIVE7 ай бұрын
On the load being high for some computers, a box to tick if you're on a dual PC setting so it uses all it can would be good!
@bambooex7 ай бұрын
Exciting news!! Except, I'll believe it when i see it
@RayneYoruka7 ай бұрын
FINALLY LETS GOOOO
@jonteno7 ай бұрын
i see you av1 guy i see you
@Sl1kz7 ай бұрын
thanks for the content! what do think about dual streamin setups ? is it worth to buy a 4070 ? my problem is i have ALOT of stuff going on in my obs and think it will benefit from it - on the other side having a 4070 for streaming and gaming on a lower graphics card seems also stupid to me .. i think i cant afford 2 4070 and dont know if its worth at all
@Cpgeekorg7 ай бұрын
HECK YEAH! - and this is WAY more complicated than I expected (which was just that they'd switch on av1, keep the same bandwidth limits (which should be fine for 4k30 at 6mb/s). pretty cool though!) alas, it's going to take a lot of upstream bandwidth and a lot of encoder power to make this happen for creators, and i'm not sure how many people are going to have the bandwidth for consistent 6m+4m+3.5m streaming (~13.5mb/s? if it stacks up that way) given lots of people are still using cable internet with crap tier upload speeds. you also need at least 3 streams of encoder power it sounds like so you'd really need a top tier gpu like a 4080/4090. to make this happen. I happen to be in an awesome place where i have both of those things and have already signed up for the beta because i'm super curious about all this, but that's a whole lot of barriers to entry. I'm hoping we'll be able to do this all ala carte (i.e. they'll switch on av1 so we can just do av1 streams if we want, and optionally have 2-4 alternate streams to provide other bandwidths and encoding formats as few or as many as we choose so that we can tune things to our needs. i'm sure we'll have more info soon. but this news is epic!
@MR_DOME7 ай бұрын
I would say I agree with this, but AV1 requires a higher set of hardware to encode properly, which may be great for bandwidth but not hardware unless you have a second computer to game and the encoder to stream. Kick and Twitch already have a great setup if you do them at 5K, 6K, KZfaq, not so much.
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
HEVC goes back to GPUs from 2014. As stated in the video. Twitch and Kick quality is generally poor for high action games
@DizConnected6 ай бұрын
Can't wait until this rolls out for everyone. I signed up for the BETA, but since I'm not a big streamer they have not chosen me to test it.
@EposVox6 ай бұрын
They don’t choose based on size
@rarpcgaming7 ай бұрын
ok, so twitch is partnering up with Nvidia and OBS, so what If I already have a Intel Arc video card (I am sure a lot of people also have one) on my streaming PC. Am I going to be able to stream on twitch using AV1 with my Intel Arc video card ?
@AverageLarryGaming5 ай бұрын
Yeah they gotta do something since KZfaq and Kick both have transcoding for everyone..
@lukeness7 ай бұрын
Damn this is actually pretty exciting
@EzBreezy7507 ай бұрын
Happy Vox is always a vibe
@Vinnie_PT7 ай бұрын
Insert "Hell, it's about time" Starcraft 2 meme here
@KANCIAPAGAMINGROOM7 ай бұрын
Will AV1 really be limited only to 40XX series? Because of that all owners of 30XX series will be force to change their cards...
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
Well RTX 3000 doesn’t have an AV1 encoder at all, that’s been known since day 1. It’s physically different hardware.
@KANCIAPAGAMINGROOM7 ай бұрын
Oh sorry then hehe.@@EposVox I thought they have because option of AV1 is avaible in OBS. My bad then, thanks again! As always good video thanks for your work!
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
You can see the CPU AV1 encoders (SVT/AOM) that anyone can use, but are very tough to encode, but not the GPU encoders!
@KANCIAPAGAMINGROOM7 ай бұрын
@@EposVox oh ok now is everything clear. Thanks again mate.
@corrganX7 ай бұрын
need to wait for intel arc support... sad. and linux. :(
@KontrolStyle7 ай бұрын
note► 2:20 sign-up for beta at twitch? yeah go to your streaming tools and request access
@jadadpe38736 ай бұрын
Is HEVC also coming to twitch for AMD GPUs? I saw an article that vaguely suggested it but it wasn't clear. Hoping it does since I'm on a 6950xt which doesn't have support for AV1 encode
@EposVox6 ай бұрын
Once it fully rolls out it’ll be available for all gpu encoders yes
@jadadpe38736 ай бұрын
@@EposVox Do you know a timeframe of when HEVC will fully roll out?
@CuervoVirtual5 ай бұрын
3 years @@jadadpe3873
@Gajbotron3 ай бұрын
How is YT streaming stands with this AV1 today?
@The_Chad_7 ай бұрын
This is pretty cool. I might start taking my Twitch streams seriously instead of an afterthought of my KZfaq streams.
@farasalt17457 ай бұрын
I don't believe that the automatic configuration will be "the best" or that it will take into consideration single pc setup, or multi pc. It will also probably have poor support for people with limited upload speeds (thanks, Australian government). My first thought of them releasing this was that they are trying to sell having you do the transcoding for them and massively reducing their costs as a feature.
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
They are absolutely going to utilize multi pc setups when possible.
@farasalt17457 ай бұрын
@@EposVox my expectations are that it will take two things into consideration when starting the stream - the available upstream bandwidth and the model number of the graphics card. Sure, they may start to add other considerations later, but there is no guarantee they go beyond having presets for whatever gpu and upload capacity your system has. Edit: also refresh rate and source resolution, sorry.
@BadRusMan7 ай бұрын
Still no av1 for twitch...cmon twitch! WHEN!?
@nickglover7 ай бұрын
The idea of "letting" streamers have multiple encodes going at once seems more like they want to offload the costs of doing that to streamers to save money. I imagine I'll need that much more computer power for each stream and that much better Internet to make it happen, all of which costs me money that Twitch doesn't have to spend. Don't like that at all.
@customhydrogaming28107 ай бұрын
Looking forward to Twitch allowing Creators the ability to use AV1 as their means for streaming. We’ve got nvenc, x264, and now AV1. Is there a point to having a second dedicated streaming now since AV1 is much better? Or should I use 2 pc’s as normal.
@nothernchronicles7 ай бұрын
What about amd graphics? Not supported? 😢
@EVPointMaster7 ай бұрын
14:34 According the Nvidias "Video Encode and Decode GPU Support Matrix" the 4070 Ti also has dual encoders, or am I missing something? Also are both encoders used automatically when you run 2 jobs simultaneously? Or do you need to specifiy which of the two encoders is being used, in ffmpeg for example?
@kttiger6666 ай бұрын
any news? we are waiting the obs av1 code
@motr71567 ай бұрын
Encoding engine will probably get overloaded with 5 AV1 streams on mid-end hardware. Not buying NVidia still, nonono :) Used Intel Arc for AV1 encoding lessgoo
@helloarchives7 ай бұрын
AV1 tends to be a lot more blurry compared to 264/265 specially when used with a graphics card encoding.
@MrHeMan10017 ай бұрын
I love that AV1 is getting it's foot in the door. I hope this improves the twitch experience because I stopped using twitch because their players SUCKS ASS... It breaks so much that I gave up on their entire service
@DiamondRyce7 ай бұрын
Choo choo 🚂
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
REACHING THE STATION
@DigIntoGaming7 ай бұрын
After the recent NSFW content that twitch allowed, I most likely won't be returning to streaming on twitch ever again. I am not sure how I feel about this new update but is it possible it will come to KZfaq? Or is it an Amazon proprietary thing? I'm assuming KZfaq will attempt to compete with it and might already have something in the works to combat it.
@abdulsalam32x7 ай бұрын
You already can stream to KZfaq using AV1 and HEVC.
@toggleton63657 ай бұрын
you can but it is different that twitch will use it. Twitch lets you encode it and the stream will served as you encode it. KZfaq does everything reencode so the user get still vp9 even when you send AV1 streams.
@IstyManame7 ай бұрын
Do i get that right that if i want to send 3-5 transcode quality options to twitch my pc have to encode all of them at the same time? Is that even duable without the dedicated 2nd pc?
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
Yes it’s doable
@Arigal37 ай бұрын
i believe is really viable but the software has to support the multistream, so i imgine that why they are partering with obs, so they can have at least one piece of software capable. the hardware can do it for sure, nvidia cards have been updated trough drivers to been able to encode more than one stream of video
@abdulsalam32x7 ай бұрын
I just used the multiple streaming plugin for OBS and I streamed monster hunter rise to three separate services, YT, kick and twitch with different bandit each service 6mb to kick and twitch and 12mb to YT and my 3070 ti handled it without any hiccups. I guess newer cards will be just fine with 3-5 transcodes.
@uncrunch3987 ай бұрын
Most important message to include with your VoD subs. "Be kind, rewind."
@Jackson-bh1jw7 ай бұрын
ill use AV1 full bitrate on one channel, and 720P H264 for old phone viewers, maybe a third in between.
@twi57ed7 ай бұрын
Too good to be true, I will believe it when I see it.
@EposVox7 ай бұрын
Well I’ll be testing it this week so you’ll see soon lmao
@John_the_baptized7 ай бұрын
Looking forward to buying my 4070Ti Super so I can enjoy the AV1 encoding and better RAM