I really hope Intel and AMD gets into this as well. And I wish Twitch would let viewers choose between both soundtracks you can send to them, so they can choose to not have the music if not desired.

Thank goodness, finding the perfect stream settings took so much of my time to set up, changing it from 1080 to 720 cause of my connection was annoying.

As a guy who works in the hardware industry, I have as much faith in this auto codec/resolution/bitrate tuner as in auto OC features when they were just introduced. Setting everything manually will most likely be a better solution for the next 5 years.

Buys intel arc gpu to gain access to early twitch av1 encoding… Twitch makes it nvidia only first…

AV1 is rly impressive, on youtube i was always recording my videos with h.264 and 265 at 24.000 bitrate for 1440p60, but with AV1 i can go down to 12.000 bitrate or even less and it still looks like 24.000 bitrate wich is also nice bec. the upload time for a video is much faster. btw on 7800 XT

Something that should be a bigger focus when talking about this is the fact that those streamer-provided NVENC 720p / 480p encodes will absolutely look better than the current Twitch transcodes, to the point that the average viewer should easily be able to tell the difference, but I'm sure we'll see that when people start testing it. Twitch's transcoding infrastructure is lagging behind current consumer HW encoders in quality, and one compression pass is always better than two. On a different note, is there any word on whether the 4070 Super will have 1 or 2 NVENC chips? 4070 has 1 and 4070 TI has 2.

I like playing with the OBS encoding settings and want every % of quality possible, did they give any word on if this will be disabled?

Love the AV1 hat haha. Happy Twitch is finally making moves. Slowly but surely!

the pre-hype is getting boring. the announcement of the announcement of the announcement. just launch the damn thing already.

I wish you had some kind of a direct call tech support line. Literally anytime I have questions or issues with recording settings and stuff, you're the only channel I even bother looking at lmao.

I haven't streamed in about two years, but I'm still a huge fan of the technology and I'm super excited about this announcement!

Lets fucking GO!

I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS! Thank you for the content!

I want control, I am worried that you are only allowed to use AV1 and multi-track video streams if you let Twitch control it. I personally want one normal stream, for me that would be one h264 1008p (my current setup, ill prob even go back to 936p) and the better 1440p or 1008p AV1 track. Thats all I need, and it would be a dream come true. I am not looking to do 3 or more encodes, I feel like any lower res transcodes are unnecessary for an FPS stream

Something I keyed into was when you mentioned auto captioning. Native auto captioning will be nice especially if it can label closed captions by source. Seeing how Teams transcribes meetings by person is awesome. I can only imagine a discord transcription plug in that ties to OBS and can do captions per person (as an option, or limit it to the just the streamer)

1080p is MINIMUM of what I bother to watch. Setting the bar lower.. why? AV1 and a secondary Arc card seems like a good option for high quality streaming.

Oh, NVENC HEVC as well? That's interesting - as I understood it, the push for AV1 was because it didn't require licensing that H265 / HEVC did, and why people didn't recommend streaming it to KZfaq as well IIRC. In my experience (with Plex stuff), H265 itself is a *wild* jump in efficiency over 264, and suddenly, the notion of having a ladder at 2.5-3.5mbps - when almost everything out there has a H265 decoder - sounds immediately a lot better. No more number-crunching!

Black fram insertion is what DyAc is on Zowie monitors. It's been around for years. But I guess this is different since it's coming from the GPU.

Very glad Twitch is finally taking a step forward in some capacity towards AV1. I have some questions though about the performance impact streaming multiple video feeds would have on a single pc stream setup. I am slightly disappointed that this will be a NVIDIA only feature for the time being as I am using AMD, but what's new there honestly? Hopefully that opens up to AMD and Intel at some point in the near future. I really hope that they will be able to figure this out without too much issue, it is Twitch though so I'm not going to say there won't be any issues. Either way it is good to see that they are at least trying to stay competitive with KZfaq in the viewer's quality experience. It feels like a compromise but at least it is a start.

Twitch supporting HEVC will make it worthwhile even to stream with older GPUs like a GTX 960 - 1060 or AMD RX 460 - 580 etc ... (with the GPUs connected to a secondary PC dedicated to the stream) using HEVC at 6000-8000 kbps 1080p60 fps ..., should make the stream quality look very good.

The future of streaming is coming, CHO CHO HYPE TRAIN!!

So @EposVox I did see the OBS dev going at 12k bitrate at 1440p60 , 6k bitrate for 1080p60 and 3.5k bitrate for 720p60 and 1k bitrate for 480p30.

This is how you start off 2024!!! Some great news.

The conductor hat 🤣 Top tier.

I wish they'd offer multiple audio tracks to choose from. This would be wild for esports broadcasts.

Haven't dug into it, does this mean all the strain gets put on the streamer's setup and their bandwidth?

Super stoked to see what this ends up becoming. Pushing the boundaries of tech is my favorite part about the streaming hobby. Thanks EposVox 👊🏽

This is nothing more than Twitch/Amazon offloading the cost of transcoding to the streamers. Seeing this as anything other than that is pure delusion. AV1/HEVC could've easily been supported with transcoding on Twitch side.

straight up doing 5 streams off my gt710 via patch

omg, finally! Been waiting forever! Saw the tweet and knew you were going to talk about it immediately!!!

another Dan Clancy W??? I never thought I'd see a twitch comeback but now... I'm starting to believe.

Nice Level1Techs shirt!

Yeah I don't see the hype around this, seems like Twitch just wants to offload the re-encoding to people with applicable hardware. Twitch already gives quality options for partnered / affiliate and otherwise low-to-mid viewership (10+) streams, I suppose the GPU encoding via AV1 would be better quality but only because Twitch has no current plans to use AV1 when re-encoding to the lower resolutions? If they are then this is even more niche. In my experience people would rather stream such low-viewership streams via Discord which has mediocre quality settings. (4K, 1080p 30/60, and 720p60 all try to use a constant bitrate of 8000Kbps, with no official option to change it) I know that's a different problem but Nvidia have just worked with Discord when they released AV1 streaming on Discord, also feels like this would have been a more appropriate scenario to test this technology.

I wonder if the delay for AV1 is whether this is the break-even point for twitch. No transcodes, lower bandwidth for existing streams OR boosting higher quality, potentially through a paywall. Played right, it could really fix their margins

Was hyped... then remember that with my dual rig setup, the 40 series card is in the wrong machine... and ofc it is... :( and no, Jensen.... having just called my $1200 card the locked and not fully-featured version vs the 4080 super, I don't think I'll be buying another 40 series.

I hope hardware AV1 and HEVC encoders catch up in quality to software x264 soon. You can see in your test clip, the text on the back wall is far more legible with the “inferior” format, even after YT recompression, because x264 is so well polished. I would wager even “medium” preset or possibly “fast” could still win. Of course it taxes your CPU, but I’ve still not seen AV1 that can compare for fine detail retention in relatively uniform areas.

I don't have an internet connection that really allows me to handle multitrack video, but I would feel better if I could stream AV1 and have Twitch transcode that instead. Even AV1 at 1080p60 3500kbps would result in a massively improved stream for my viewers, and currently I can only do that to KZfaq and not Twitch. I am also disappointed that Twitch is still going to be using RTMP and not SRT. My connection has huge issues with latency variance (StarLink), so SRT was resulting in a much better connection for myself in the testing I did with Castr (another restreamer service similar to restream io). I would still drop packets via SRT, but my streams latency would remain intact instead of lengthening, which is much better imo then having the stream "catch up" under RTMP.

The one I'm curious about is will this work for peeps who wanna multistream? I'm leaning more on "Nah its not gonna work."

Looking forward to your breakdown and settings for 40 series cards. Im hoping to encode 4k60, 1080p60, and 720p60 with AV1

You think this leads to Twitch eventually pulling transcoding and offloading it to the end user? I'm sure it would save them money in a way.

So awesome! Thanks for getting the lowdown on this!

Yesss. Thanks for doing the video. Finally things are getting into motion hypeee

This only for 10-20% of people that streaming!..Transcoding is KZfaq for years!

It's crappy that it's only for nvidia (and only 40 series at first?) - hopefully since OBS is free software maybe ther ewill be some way around it with other encoders.

I am really excited to see AV1 encoding start to make it way to Twitch. I've got a 4080 and I've never hit a sign up button faster for that beta. It'll be interesting to see how it all goes. Curious about what Twitch will doing with their own transcoding. If this is a success then will it see a push to offload some of the transcoding costs off Twitch and let us handle it? Regardless. I've got my ticket for the AV1 hype train.

Looks like its time to get an av1 card now

The multi-quality stream mode for Twitch is pretty exciting!

HOLY SHIIIIIT. I was just wondering about this today. AWESOMEEE

I wonder if Twitch wants to work toward removing automatic transcoding on behalf of streamers. It would really help them cut costs.

Very curious how multiple transcode streams being sent will effect GPU usage on the user.

So only Ngreedia GPUs get to use AV1 on twitch? Wonder how much that cost them.

How do you think this impacts re-streaming? If I recall, your advice was to primarily use KZfaq in OBS and send the other streams (Twitch, Kick) through the RMTP plug in. I was actually considering using KZfaq (before this video), then use restream to send to Twitch/Kick through the RMTP plug in.

Damn now we can get even higher quality commercials from twitch 😂

Exciting vid. Cheers

why would i max out my streaming pc just to let them know whats best settings when i already know whats the best setting for twitch with their pathetic upload limit

Sorry if I missed this in the video, but do we know if AV1 will be expanded to older RTX cards, or remain 40-series exclusive indefinitely? My stream PC has only a 2080super but I'd like to do AV1 one day, my gaming PC has a 4080 but I don't want to migrate to a single PC setup just yet. Thanks!

Nice way to start of the new year

Cool but multi audio tracks would be just as cool

This is AWESOME.

Congrats, this was a big one coming.

so can I use my 7900 XTX AMD GPUs AV1 encoder for this?

I bought an Intel A380 for my streaming PC for AV1 encoding, can't wait to actually use it.

Seeing as how I'm locked in at 12Mbps upload for at least 3 years (according to AT&T), I'll be disadvantaged in an already difficult market. Makes so sense for me. I may have to sell my house and move.

One baby step at a time

This is the best late-Christmas gift! All of this is such great news!

Exciting news!! Except, I'll believe it when i see it

FINALLY LETS GOOOO

i see you av1 guy i see you

thanks for the content! what do think about dual streamin setups ? is it worth to buy a 4070 ? my problem is i have ALOT of stuff going on in my obs and think it will benefit from it - on the other side having a 4070 for streaming and gaming on a lower graphics card seems also stupid to me .. i think i cant afford 2 4070 and dont know if its worth at all

HECK YEAH! - and this is WAY more complicated than I expected (which was just that they'd switch on av1, keep the same bandwidth limits (which should be fine for 4k30 at 6mb/s). pretty cool though!) alas, it's going to take a lot of upstream bandwidth and a lot of encoder power to make this happen for creators, and i'm not sure how many people are going to have the bandwidth for consistent 6m+4m+3.5m streaming (~13.5mb/s? if it stacks up that way) given lots of people are still using cable internet with crap tier upload speeds. you also need at least 3 streams of encoder power it sounds like so you'd really need a top tier gpu like a 4080/4090. to make this happen. I happen to be in an awesome place where i have both of those things and have already signed up for the beta because i'm super curious about all this, but that's a whole lot of barriers to entry. I'm hoping we'll be able to do this all ala carte (i.e. they'll switch on av1 so we can just do av1 streams if we want, and optionally have 2-4 alternate streams to provide other bandwidths and encoding formats as few or as many as we choose so that we can tune things to our needs. i'm sure we'll have more info soon. but this news is epic!

I would say I agree with this, but AV1 requires a higher set of hardware to encode properly, which may be great for bandwidth but not hardware unless you have a second computer to game and the encoder to stream. Kick and Twitch already have a great setup if you do them at 5K, 6K, KZfaq, not so much.

Can't wait until this rolls out for everyone. I signed up for the BETA, but since I'm not a big streamer they have not chosen me to test it.

ok, so twitch is partnering up with Nvidia and OBS, so what If I already have a Intel Arc video card (I am sure a lot of people also have one) on my streaming PC. Am I going to be able to stream on twitch using AV1 with my Intel Arc video card ?

Yeah they gotta do something since KZfaq and Kick both have transcoding for everyone..

Damn this is actually pretty exciting

Happy Vox is always a vibe

Insert "Hell, it's about time" Starcraft 2 meme here

Will AV1 really be limited only to 40XX series? Because of that all owners of 30XX series will be force to change their cards...

need to wait for intel arc support... sad. and linux. :(

note► 2:20 sign-up for beta at twitch? yeah go to your streaming tools and request access

Is HEVC also coming to twitch for AMD GPUs? I saw an article that vaguely suggested it but it wasn't clear. Hoping it does since I'm on a 6950xt which doesn't have support for AV1 encode

How is YT streaming stands with this AV1 today?

This is pretty cool. I might start taking my Twitch streams seriously instead of an afterthought of my KZfaq streams.

I don't believe that the automatic configuration will be "the best" or that it will take into consideration single pc setup, or multi pc. It will also probably have poor support for people with limited upload speeds (thanks, Australian government). My first thought of them releasing this was that they are trying to sell having you do the transcoding for them and massively reducing their costs as a feature.

Still no av1 for twitch...cmon twitch! WHEN!?

The idea of "letting" streamers have multiple encodes going at once seems more like they want to offload the costs of doing that to streamers to save money. I imagine I'll need that much more computer power for each stream and that much better Internet to make it happen, all of which costs me money that Twitch doesn't have to spend. Don't like that at all.

Looking forward to Twitch allowing Creators the ability to use AV1 as their means for streaming. We’ve got nvenc, x264, and now AV1. Is there a point to having a second dedicated streaming now since AV1 is much better? Or should I use 2 pc’s as normal.

What about amd graphics? Not supported? 😢

14:34 According the Nvidias "Video Encode and Decode GPU Support Matrix" the 4070 Ti also has dual encoders, or am I missing something? Also are both encoders used automatically when you run 2 jobs simultaneously? Or do you need to specifiy which of the two encoders is being used, in ffmpeg for example?

any news? we are waiting the obs av1 code

Encoding engine will probably get overloaded with 5 AV1 streams on mid-end hardware. Not buying NVidia still, nonono :) Used Intel Arc for AV1 encoding lessgoo

AV1 tends to be a lot more blurry compared to 264/265 specially when used with a graphics card encoding.

I love that AV1 is getting it's foot in the door. I hope this improves the twitch experience because I stopped using twitch because their players SUCKS ASS... It breaks so much that I gave up on their entire service

Choo choo 🚂

After the recent NSFW content that twitch allowed, I most likely won't be returning to streaming on twitch ever again. I am not sure how I feel about this new update but is it possible it will come to KZfaq? Or is it an Amazon proprietary thing? I'm assuming KZfaq will attempt to compete with it and might already have something in the works to combat it.

Do i get that right that if i want to send 3-5 transcode quality options to twitch my pc have to encode all of them at the same time? Is that even duable without the dedicated 2nd pc?

Most important message to include with your VoD subs. "Be kind, rewind."

ill use AV1 full bitrate on one channel, and 720P H264 for old phone viewers, maybe a third in between.

Too good to be true, I will believe it when I see it.

Looking forward to buying my 4070Ti Super so I can enjoy the AV1 encoding and better RAM