NEW Cobra DarkSpeed vs OLD AeroJet - Is the DarkSpeed Really Better??

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Elite Performance Golf Studios

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In todays video it's another one of our famous head to heads!!!
We put the new 2024 Cobra DarkSpeed up against the old 2023 Cobra AeroJet.
As always comparing the performance out of the middle, but also really testing the heel and toe of both drivers to see if the DarkSpeed really does have anything else to offer on those off centre hits!!
Timecodes
0:00 - Main Intro
0:44 - Huxley Intro & Video Format
02:40 - AeroJet Hitting - Baseline Set
05:25 - AeroJet Numbers - Baseline Set
06:34 - DarkSpeed Hitting - Baseline Set
12:37 - Comparing Baseline Numbers
14:40 - DarkSpeed Hitting - Heel Strikes
17:11 - AeroJet Hitting - Heel Strikes
19:25 - Comparing Heel Strike Numbers
21:49 - AeroJet Hitting - Toe Strikes
23:50 - DarkSpeed Hitting - Toe Strikes
27:21 - Comparing Toe Strike Numbers
29:28 - Summary / Takeaway

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@Huxley.H_Golf
@Huxley.H_Golf 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for having me down Ross 🙌🏼
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Pleasure mate!! Some top notch testing there 🙌
@richdarlowgolf
@richdarlowgolf 5 ай бұрын
Great test Ross and Huxley thanks, the dispersion is insane on off centre hits! I think I need to upgrade my Cobra F9 to either one of these 💥
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Rich 👍 yeah it was impressive for sure! Yeah if you’ve got an F9 it could to time to look for an upgrade 👀👀
@vergecabral1217
@vergecabral1217 5 ай бұрын
new to the channel love the review good job
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Thanks and welcome to the channel 🙌👍
@kyledriesse
@kyledriesse 5 ай бұрын
Ross there were so many good things about this test. Loved the golfer you chose for his pure robot mm strike location ability. I agree with another commenter that the dynamic loft drastic difference is alarming. As a fitter I would have ruled out the heads first. Check the driver loft at center strike on both. Most manufacturers have a +\- 1 degree tolerance from stated loft so the aero jet could have been weak and the darkspeed strong and that may have accounted for the drastic difference. If this was the case I’d go back to the drawer and find two heads with the same loft, this is assuming the player wants the look of how the head does in the STD hosel position. However if both from this test happen to perfectly have the exact stated loft then I would assume that the cg is wildly different between the models causing more shaft deflection which is pretty impressive and not that likely because of the drastic difference. The weights are almost the same year over year and this isn’t a 50g taylormade fairway wood sliding weight. At that point I would have lofted the AeroJet down to recreate the “fitted” launch conditions that your darkspeed head happened to show up with. The downside here obviously being that with his naturally left path, opening the face more is going to turn his straight/baby fade ball flight into right going right. The heads having different stock lofts is much more plausible. I love what you’re doing with this channel. Reminds me of the old days of TXG when they would experiment more. The laakuma guy in the comments was a bit harsh and obviously isn’t a fitter so take his long winded rant with no grammar with a grain of salt. You are doing a phenomenal job with your channel and this video, always room for improvement, keep up the good work Ross! Do you happen to have a driver loft gauge? If so, please please test these two heads and throw the numbers in my comment. I’m super interested!
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Kyle appreciate it 🙌 unfortunately we only ever have one head so we don't have the option to pick and choose different heads based on if the loft is slightly off. We also don't have a gauge at the moment. I've thought about it but again we don't keep stock, only have 1 demo head so everthing is ordered custom. So we don't have the option to change and pick lofts so it is what it is really we just have to accept the manufacturers deviation at the moment. Hopefully when we get bigger financially that may be an option for us to do. 👌🙌
@TheNicP74
@TheNicP74 5 ай бұрын
Nice one guys 👍
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Nic
@nadeemagherdien
@nadeemagherdien Ай бұрын
I loved the comparison and yes its also admirable to watch someone swing so fast almost effortlessley..well done Huxley. I enjoyed the comparison and agree the dark speed is by far the better looking club in its 'stealth' mode however as we all look at the roi on drivers i.e. distance vs cost, there seems to be marginal differences in performance and with huge discounts on offer for aerojet its a no brainer. Thanks for the video love your work❤
@paulhuk2748
@paulhuk2748 5 ай бұрын
I'm with Kelly on this , please please please, keep them coming mate.
@markibaviosa7559
@markibaviosa7559 5 ай бұрын
dudes got one hell of a swing
@cshumaker1234
@cshumaker1234 4 ай бұрын
Love the dark speed
@jmace11ab
@jmace11ab 28 күн бұрын
Love these kinds of reviews where its Prior vs Current Gen. Feel like there are alot of "gimmicky" reasons to "upgrade" these days and review like this cut the BS. Cool to see there were some noticeable performance improvements. I'm new to golf and actually just picked up a like-new AeroJet (standard) for $143 as a beater/backup/practice driver. My mishits tend to be Heel-side so really cool to see that it's extremely on-par with the Darkspeed for my use case. Seems like I made a good choice and really cool to see hard data backing it up!
@chrissorto4636
@chrissorto4636 5 ай бұрын
It might be time to upgrade from my ol' reliable Cobra King F9. Love the look of that DarkSpeed
@lukewalker2673
@lukewalker2673 3 ай бұрын
I just retired my f9 bc I cracked the face same thing that happened with the f8 glad to see other people using one
@oliverrichardson1980
@oliverrichardson1980 5 ай бұрын
I've always loved cobra I'm new to golf and have secondhand copper forgetec irons and secondhand ltdx ls woods, love them. So under rated in the industry
@paulbutler5052
@paulbutler5052 3 ай бұрын
Can you pls test generations against each other for brands Ie ltdx ls v Aerojet ls v darkspeed ls or g415 v g425 x g430 Currently play the ltdx ls , which off center is a great driver but love to see it v the darkspeed off center
@markharvey1041
@markharvey1041 5 ай бұрын
Great stuff Ross…EPG…the new TXG…;-)
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
😂 thanks Mark 🙏🙏
@zarlodious1
@zarlodious1 5 ай бұрын
While I do enjoy the look of the Darkspeed I think I will keep the Aerojet in the bag, I have several different weights I bought for the Aerojet that won't fit Darkspeed. Not worth $500 for one more yard and 100rpm less spin.
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Yeah for sure. If you have a well fitted Aerojet you won't see a benefit in upgrading really.
@poshrodders
@poshrodders 5 ай бұрын
He absolutely smashes it
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Yeah he gives it a good whack doesn't he!! 😂👍
@MrAndyPhoenix
@MrAndyPhoenix 5 ай бұрын
Love to see the Ping G430 up against the other new drivers you've tested.....maybe even the 10k but you don't stock Ping?
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Correct we don't stock Ping. But we do have a meeting with them in Feb! So that could well be coming 🤞👀
@Bootyman19
@Bootyman19 4 ай бұрын
I may have missed it but which one was more forgiving overall as in keeping misses closer to the fairway between the 2??
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 4 ай бұрын
I'd say Darkspeed but realistically it was fine margins between them
@IMon503
@IMon503 5 ай бұрын
Should have finished off Darkspeed vs his gamer, paradym
@pgowan357
@pgowan357 5 ай бұрын
Hard for me to think of Aero Jet as old. I'm still playing SpeedZone. But Dark Speed sure is interesting.
@sillysausage4872
@sillysausage4872 5 ай бұрын
Im confused by the distance. I have aerojet LS. My furtherest with 188mph ball speed was 320 carry and 342 total. Launch 9.2 apex 124mph On trackman. How did he achieve same with 12mph less. ?? Surely i should be 360s or 370s then ??
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
What was yours spinning at? And were you hitting inside or outside on Trackman? The 2 definitely measure different. It's pretty accepted quad over reads a bit when it comes to driver, and trackman is definitely more conservative.
@ablazer4551
@ablazer4551 5 ай бұрын
I have been gaming the LTD-LS, But after seeing the Dark speed LS in the Matt Blackout, I could not resist I bought one off ebay, It's the best looking driver I have ever seen, I put it into my Vanquish 4S shaft @ 44 inches 🏌🏌🏌
@chuckross8839
@chuckross8839 5 ай бұрын
Blazing the trail , did you add weight to the Dark speed . That Vanquish would be very low swing weight at 44 inches . Just asking .
@discr1709
@discr1709 5 ай бұрын
I got a brand new Aerojet for $300 so I’m sticking with that for a while. I’ve gained 4-5 mph ball speed over my old Cobra Radspeed XB. Very impressive.
@discr1709
@discr1709 5 ай бұрын
Also, hilarious how Huxley was trying to hit crappy drives and all but one was playable, whereas I’m trying to hit good drives on the range and keep it in play maybe 65% of the time; worse when actually playing a round. 😂🏌️‍♂️
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
@@discr1709 😂😂 yeah a lot of good players always find a pretty decent delivery even when mis hitting it so they tend to get away with it more. And that sort of my point about "less forgiving" drivers. If you deliver it we'll the mishits are awesome. If you don't deliver it well it doesn't matter how "forgiving" the driver is, it will go offline
@josephinecampbell3196
@josephinecampbell3196 5 ай бұрын
I have the aerojet. I will try the darkspeed with the aerotec driver shaft to see how it is.
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Let us know how it does 🙌
@AlexJonesInfo
@AlexJonesInfo 4 ай бұрын
Is it better than the Ltdx Ls
@2sqnbandit379
@2sqnbandit379 5 ай бұрын
Ross how do I book a fitting in with you bud, or can you do it? I play off 6 I want a new driver. Swing speed circa 100mph.
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Just on our website bud. The link is in the description of the video 👍 on just Google Elite Performance Golf Studios 🙌
@francescodelton2999
@francescodelton2999 5 ай бұрын
What about comparing ltdx ls with ds ls?
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Not sure I’ve got any LTD X heads here unfortunately. Plus I’ve got a shed load of other content to get through at the mo 😅 I did do an Aerojet vs LTD X video though so could Maybe indirectly compare 😅
@kellycoates5027
@kellycoates5027 5 ай бұрын
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have someone with a swing speed of around 85 to 90 mph test the new driver releases. I would say that your average club golfer is going to be more relatable to that speed. Test all the models in the range and see what the results would be. Thank you in advance. Id be willing to bet that you'll have more views and more satisfied followers. Do what the other content creators are not doing and you'll grow a bigger audience....
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
I completely get people with a slower swing speed would find it better watching someone of similar speed, but there are a couple of issues. With these videos I want to take the player out of it as much as possible. It’s a test of the clubs, not the person. So I need someone of Huxleys ability to hit consistent centre, then consistent toe and consistent heel to give me good data to work with. Unfortunately most scratch players all swing a lot faster than 85mph. Doing this test with a mid handicap would not be fair to the clubs as the data would be too inconsistent. And secondly swing speed is always secondary to how you deliver the club. So if this tester did swing at 85mph a lot of people would believe the data would be similar to them because of the similar swing speed. This is not true at all. How you deliver the club is far more important than the speed you swing the club. So no test video or fitting video is ever relatable to the people watching regardless of swing speed, unless that player knows exactly how they deliver the club and the person in the video also delivers it identically. Which is pretty unlikely. But I definitely get your point and will defo bear it in mind for future content 👍
@RCGolf
@RCGolf 5 ай бұрын
People who swing 85-90 mph generally don't need a new driver they need a lesson and to hit the gym. Swing speed and handicap are very linearly correlated so bringing someone slower simply adds more variables that you cannot control.
@kellycoates5027
@kellycoates5027 5 ай бұрын
@RCGolf Im a disabled veteran who has only been playing for 3 years, I'm 52 years old and weight 140 lbs I've had both shoulders completely rebuilt due to injury. My swing speed with driver is between 90 and 100 mph and my handicap is 8 so thats why I'd like to see someone with a similar swing speed test the drivers. Some of us just mere mortals.
@golfnut6129
@golfnut6129 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@RCGolfyou haven’t seen some of the older boys at our club. They might have slowed down, lost distance off the tee but they are down the middle every time and are short game and putting demons! They spend their time in the bar and not the gym and many of them are still low handicap. They don’t need lessons, they buy what they need to maximise their game and allow them to keep playing. I think your ‘observation’ is a little to ‘broad brush’.
@xBlade173
@xBlade173 5 ай бұрын
The norm for anyone semi athletic is 100-110 CHS on driver. Can't say I agree in the slightest with the 85-90 average
@spodbw1
@spodbw1 5 ай бұрын
Tried the darkspeed x against my aerojet and found no difference maybe just aerojet ahead 🤷‍♂️
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Yeah they are very close in all fairness that's why I get unbelievably good players to do these tests as even for me I might struggle to see a difference 😂 we need a robot really! Would be the fairest test!
@lucasgardner2708
@lucasgardner2708 8 күн бұрын
What shaft was that? Maybe I missed it in the video.
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 7 күн бұрын
Can't really remember, we filmed this ages ago. Looks like a Tour AD IZ having a quick glance on the vid
@333pg333
@333pg333 3 ай бұрын
Was this the Aerospeed LS or the normal version?
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 3 ай бұрын
Both LS
@stevecottrell5856
@stevecottrell5856 5 ай бұрын
Good video but can’t relate to swing speeds like that. Probably a little niche.
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Doesn't really matter its just a comparison of the heads. How they peform for Huxley (in terms of how the performance differs between the heads) it would do the same for everyone regardless of speed.
@edwardbrown6245
@edwardbrown6245 3 ай бұрын
I just order the new cobra dark speed 10.5 driver and the 3 wood and the 7 wood .. I wish you had a guy with slower club head speed ..I am at 90 club head speed
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 3 ай бұрын
It's all about delivery not speed 👌 best of luck with the new clubs 💪
@kelvinkeong
@kelvinkeong Ай бұрын
I don't know how, I went to a demo day for Cobra, I hit the dark speed X consistently efficiency above 1.55 Highest 1.59 My swing was 101mph, The ball speed 160mph Result on trackman
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios Ай бұрын
Nice. Maybe some crazy rock hard range balls? 😂
@kelvinkeong
@kelvinkeong Ай бұрын
@@epgolfstudios not sure if its the ball, but at the same time i tried AI Smoke, i only getting 1.42. 1.45 max. same range ball swing speed the same around 100mph, was thinking if the demo club is illegal 🤣
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios Ай бұрын
@@kelvinkeong even if it was it wouldn't make that much difference in all honesty. Definitely sounds like something odd is going on there though. Where they trying to see Corbe drivers?? 😂
@golfnut6129
@golfnut6129 5 ай бұрын
Not much more they can do to improve drivers now, especially for the ‘average’ golfer (unless they suddenly produce something with new materials). Proper fitting is becoming more important than ever, finding that head shaft combo that suits the individual swing is worth it’s weight in gold. I can’t understand why anyone would buy ‘off the shelf’ especially at the price mark. Spend a little more initially and save a fortune in the long run🤷🏼‍♂️
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Yeah completely right mate, especially with all the options out there now. It's a complete minefield for amateur golfers. Fitting is the way forward 🙌
@fredriknorman243
@fredriknorman243 3 ай бұрын
Should have cranked the Aerojet a degree lower to see where it would be (Since the flight was so high). Would probably be bombed with a much better flight.
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 3 ай бұрын
I think we did enough hitting on this test 😂
@mvansb23
@mvansb23 5 ай бұрын
Don’t know what to make of this. The only real difference was delivered loft was lower on the centered strikes. So higher smash. Not sure why. I don’t think the front back weighting is so different that it would explain it. The smash wasn’t better around the toe and heel. And we know smash can’t actually be improved in the middle. The big advertising on darkspeed is faster on off center. And better aerodynamics for faster swing speed. We saw no data to support their claims. The only difference in data was on center strikes but we know that isn’t a legit reason to upgrade. I’m left concluding there is no improvement. Would love to see the aerodynamic claims on the 8 degree darkspeed LS tested
@lambpuppy435
@lambpuppy435 5 ай бұрын
I think you have to have a swing speed around 135 to see noticeable gains regarding improved aerodynamics. I think Kyle Berkshire gained 3 mph...
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Where are the claims of the 8* being faster? I haven't seen anything about this? But I'll take a look. I Can't see how it's much different to the 9* 😂 as you say no driver is getting quicker out the middle, regardless. And the aero has been mint on Cobra drivers since the LTD so can't see that improving either. It's certainly not much of a jump, if at all, but that's what we expect year on year now in all honesty. There's not much more they can do anymore unfortunately.
@MrTthaha
@MrTthaha 5 ай бұрын
Also Hux being 6’6” is slightly depressing 😂😂 just me?
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
Yes completely agree. I looked absolutely minute stood next to him 😂😂😂
@Huxley.H_Golf
@Huxley.H_Golf 5 ай бұрын
There’s positives but I can assure you theres negatives as well 😅😂
@golfnut6129
@golfnut6129 5 ай бұрын
@@Huxley.H_Golf getting trousers to fit 😂
@Huxley.H_Golf
@Huxley.H_Golf 5 ай бұрын
@@golfnut6129 yes but these ones actually do 🤣🤣
@MrTthaha
@MrTthaha 5 ай бұрын
69 views lol
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
🤦😂
@kellycoates5027
@kellycoates5027 5 ай бұрын
Do you have a channel? Are you creating content?
@MrTthaha
@MrTthaha 5 ай бұрын
@@kellycoates5027 it was a joke about 69… calm your tits
@epgolfstudios
@epgolfstudios 5 ай бұрын
@@kellycoates5027 I think he's just being immature about the specific number Kelly 😂 rater than insulting the rubbish amount of views. Well he may have been doing that, I can't be entirely sure 😂
@golfnut6129
@golfnut6129 5 ай бұрын
Helpful 🙄…..few more views now😉
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