Binnington wasn't awful though... There were one or two that he probably should have got, but there were deflections and plays which he had zero chance of getting. He wasn't great obviously, but he'll definitely be back for game 4.

It was a rough one

And the Blues PK lol

Yeah, he started strong, then 2-3 of those 5 he definitely should have had. I think that's what got in his head more than anything, was knowing he should have had a few of those. And it escalated from there. Eh, he's a rookie--I think he'll get his focus back and learn from it and keep getting better. I hope he goes on to become one of the best goalies in the game, I think he's got tons of potential.

C Arai yes he moved his head in to the hit witch causes the suspension

MrFreshJr when they’re considering a suspension they usually consider whether the head contact could be avoided. In this case IMO there was not enough time for the hitter to react after the sudden movement as he was already well into the motion of hitting and fully committed to the hit

@@carai6083 You are correct. I do not believe the officials and now the NHL (with the Suspension) even looked at the rule book. Rule 41-Boarding states, "There is an enormous amount of judgment involved in the application of this rule by the Referees. The onus is on the player applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a defenseless position and if so, he must avoid or minimize contact. However, in determining whether such contact could have been avoided, the circumstances of the check, including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the check or whether the check was unavoidable can be considered. This balance must be considered by the Referees when applying this rule." The big "However" in the middle of the paragraph is where the officials and the NHL should have read three or four times.

why are you defending a heavy shot in the head that can cause harm and damage in the future??????

Krug glided for a good 3 meters, hit shoulder to shoulder, didn't leave his feet til after contact and the puck was right there so I don't know how you can say he wasn't going to play the puck. They should use that hit for what a 100% clean cut hit actually looks like in a league full of elbows and hits from behind.

It was a line change doofus.

@@liamallerdice9919 I knew I'd see this comment here. Does it ever get frustrating or tiresome trying to educate the ignorant? Keep up the good fight!

@Treyson Boesch Didn't know driving your shoulder into an opposing player's face was clean? It was also a charge, since "gliding" or skates leaving the ice aren't in the rule. Only "distance traveled to deliver a violent hit".

Eric Saucier You and SplatWoomy are always getting before me so I just quit lol. It’s so annoying how much I see you two educate people of how to play hockey

It was a line change doofus.

Yup so does every team, in every game, on every change on the fly. What's you're point here? Are you saying they should have received a penalty or had the goal disallowed? If so I should point out this was a legal and absolutely good play and goal. When it happened they were in an active change on the fly, play was already in the offensive zone (wasn't anywhere near the puck!) Per rulebook and per STL and per war room in Toronto who all scrutinized it's a good goal and legal play.

And if you try to point to the Avs goal called back for Landeskog being offsides. Rules are different for offsides vs too many men for change on the fly. Look it up.

Or simply put...what Splatwoomy said. Haha

​@@seattlesauce You are going to have to point out where the line change was going on here because the rule states you can't change until you are within five feet of the bench. It's from a different play when it was 5-5, but they definitely missed this one. twitter.com/tlott33/status/1133896376935493632/photo/1 Edit-to notate different play.

Rangers fan here, clean check max was two minutes charging.

Thomas was not expecting the hit at all until the last second. It looked so bad because he was mid stop and Krug just went sicko mode because he had been pinned to the ground about 15 seconds before. So no talk about him getting pinned to the ground and getting his helmet ripped off? C’mon buddy get a grip

Writer Vest Thomas’ injury is completely unrelated to the hit

@boah. He wasn’t pinned to the ice. You can see him grabbing Perron’s leg like a toddler asking for a snack

Blues coach said before game 2,Thomas being out was completely unrelated to Krug's hit which was 100% clean.

You're saying by him turning at the last second that means in the rule book you can get hit in the numbers and back of the head.... Didn't see that one anywhere

@@kylehadcock6248 This wasn't his first day. The unnatural motion he made to play the puck and losing his balance is the primary cause of the foul. A lefty doesn't skate towards the puck, and try to play the puck on his forehand while attempting make a sharp turn the other direction. Grizz did one of the following 2 things; tried to fake sundqvist out to avoid the hit or keep his back to sundqvist to avoid being hit. Either way, he knew he was being hit. He should of followed through on his forehand, like most players would, took the hit shoulder to shoulder, no injury, no penalty/suspension and nobody would be discussing this. Instead, he made a bad decision and is now injured because of it. Even if sundqvist pulled up and just ran into him instead of following through, Grizz would still of gotten hurt. The only way Grizz doesn't get hurt is if sundqvist doesn't attempt to make any contact wit him, and thats called non-contact hockey, welcome to the big league. Don't step in front of an oncoming truck and blame the driver that you got hurt.

@@kylehadcock6248 No, it was completely a boarding, but the hit to the head was completely accidental, and only happened in part, for how Grizz dropped his head down as he turned. I just didn't think a suspension was necessarily the right call Is all. But, next man up. Hopefully Sanford can bring something to the 4th line tonight.

Actually in the rule book it does say if you turn your back to a hit before a defender can react that it’s not a penalty.

TANGER 9187 meh

TANGER 9187 He still hit him in the head, numbers and left his feet.

@@triggermoon2155 he didnt leave his feet

Luigi Muttart 1. He hit him in the head due to griz dropping his head from sliding. 2. Did hit him in the numbers but I think only diserved a 2 min penalty. 3.when contact was made he had one skate on the ice

He could do about 10 dang it from game 3 alone lol

What about the Bruins ones after game 4?

@@fangirlcorps9723 yeah fr

THANK YOU!!!

That's because he didn't get hurt

At a slower speed from a different angle, and as stated he didn't get a ride the hospital.

Little bit different when one is a directly from behind hit to the back of the head, that was finished. vs a hit where the player had a different angle to come in on and clearly didnt throw everything into it.

@@areskrieger5890A ride to the hospital shouldn't determine injuries. What an idiotic concept. Not saying that's your view because I know the refs call it that way. I'm saying the penalty calling philosophy is more flawed than the deep south legislature

You're an idiot

It's the new NHL you cannot hit or fight or do anything physical anymore. Even chirping gets you 10 minute game misconducts now. It's pathetic.

@@hardcoreamericangamer8835 no. You cant hit players in the numbers that was illegal.

@@Seegster77 I agree but Boston also has. That's what made these playoffs brutal to watch

@@Seegster77 I think you are forgetting that the Blues entire game plan the last 2 series is hurt people and win by attrition (Just ask Pavelski Hertl and Karlsson)... Doesn't matter if you get a 1 game suspension if they are out for 2-3

StL ChuckO The blues hit the bruins in the head, the back, and left his feet. MacAvoy hit the blue jackets and got a suspension. Against the blues ok buddy learn hockey

Luigi Muttart Grzelcyk contorted all weird and put himself in that position. Sundqvist came off the ice after they made contact. Even if it is a penalty, the suspension was BS. The NHL has been doing the Blues dirty this postseason. They admitted the refs allowed a hand pass that let the Sharks win a game... not to mention the other nonsense calls.

@@stlchucko It was a penalty where the actions of a player directly injured another in an intentional initiation of contact, that will normally get you a game though a 5min major would also be acceptable either way this has been the manner this has played out for a couple years and part of the reason they suspend guys is to prevent blood baths of revenge.

@@triggermoon2155 Left his feet? are we talking about Clifton on that play? If you want to see what leaving your feet looks like, just watch Clifton at 5:12. THAT should be called if anyone is going to talk about consistency of reffing. Sundq didn't leave the ice until the change in momentum brought his left skate up. Clifton jumped a foot in the air

I know that was so stupid!

It was a line change doofus.

What he said......see splat above for very thorough and detailed explanation. What does everyone not understand what a change on the fly is?? And why are the most ignorant the most vocal. Damn

SplatWoomy Ik it’s a line change but normally it’s 6 men for a split second when here it was at least a full second which is crucial in hockey

Person Who does stuff ya crucial, he really made a difference in that goal lmao

Kim Terry yeah it actually really did cuz if he waited like he is supposed to to get on the ice it would’ve given the blues an extra second to cover coyle

except for the fact that the sundqvist hit was boarding, hitting from behind, and hitting to the head. The fact that it was only 2 is amazing in and of itself

Nothing wrong with the Sundqvist hit? Tf? You're such a moron

@@PlyrMava. Matter of opinion buddy.

@@hardcoreamericangamer8835 Its really not a matter of opinion. That was 3 by the book infractions resulting in a significant injury.... They took Grez straight to the hospital to check for a brain bleed. Refs were scared to call a 5 after Sharks/Knights but this is a 5 100%

@@johnnyholt4181 5-7 years ago that would have been a non-call. All I'm saying. The sport is changing and becoming soft. You cannot change my opinion on that because it's factual. Fighting down 75% from 5 years ago, and hitting is at record lows. The sport is losing all its grit and emotion and physical play.

Maybe

😂😂

@@realjbmnt6605 "LOL"

Blues in 8

@@louiebili17yearsagoedited85 you cant go 8 games only seven

It's pretty unprofessional.

It was a line change doofus.

Damn you Splatwoomy. You quick bastard. Haha

@@liamallerdice9919 Wow, good observation. That is when too many men penalties happen. A player coming off the ice was involved in the play when he shouldn't have been while getting to the bench.

@@liamallerdice9919 well I mean that's typically when the penalty is called. Ya noodle brain

Yeah it's fine because the blues still won that game! Get felt bruins

He didn’t miss the puck

Well yea I understand that but like it was just an awkward play that sadly resulted in him getting hurt but it’s also unavoidable contact. There are other questionable huts that could be called too but I’m just dayibg

Yeah that’s the point no one likes the blues except the people in St. Louis and no one likes the bruins except Boston neither team pulls in out of market fans

Lmao name them

Krug for sure, and the others two maybe it really depends Grzelect and Marchand

Krugs hit was clean other than the fact that he should’ve been called for charging, if the guy that got hit got injured the refs would’ve looked at it more.

@@kimterry1170 yeah see its not a charge though, he stops skating at the blue line and glides into him, doesnt leave his feet until aftter the hit, and never touches his head. Thats a perfect hit, like you really cant hit someone cleaner then that.

How dare you sir. How dare you place any blame on a superior! Captain Z is 8'5" tall and has a 13' long stick and can reach any spot in the defensive zone by just standing in front of the net and slowly waving around his stick. EXCEPT behind the net he can't reach because the net's in the way. It's his kryptonite and Pasta should know that!! B's for life bro! Beantown baby!! BEEEEANTOOOOOOWWWWN!!!!! Haha. Chara drives me crazy. I cringe anytime I see an odd man rush developing.

Eric Saucier beantown is gonna have another parade baby woohoo!!

But he didn't and the numbers were aimed for with that hit. It's not like gryzlick forced him to board

if it was a hockey play then injury wouldn't have been taken into account, but it was deemed illegal so that's why there was a suspension

@@TrAvi5link Yep, a illegal play that results in a head injury or really any serious injury will usually result in either a post game suspension or an ejection with a 5 minute major, the former being the case here.

Ares Krieger yes but this shouldn’t matter because player health can vary so some may be older and get injured easier

Same, although it looked like he tried to avoid at the last second, his attempt to avoid the hit led him directly into the opposing player's head. Shouldn't even be charging in that hard when someone is showing numbers the whole time. Blues really need to clean up their play if they want to win anymore games, bruin's pp is hot now.

There are too many hits that are inches from being the same thing. The refs just don't want to enforce the hit from behind call. Grez slipped and Sund came in at the speed and lowered height he needs to in order to neutralize a reverse hit which is incredibly likely in that scenario. Should've been a game misconduct with no regard to the injury, but the refs have already set the dangerous precedent for allowing that type of hit for the past decade and beyond. Injury based calls is what created/incentivized this hit

Wrong but!

So, Clifton (75) should get a charging penalty for jumping? see 5:12

For one thing we didn't have sunqvist or Thomas so it was hard on us.

Yeah you’re an expert

He slipped and then got hit in a manner that was deemed illegal which resulted in serious injury that is almost a guaranteed suspension for the guy in the box, and it's been fairly consistent enforcement(or at least as much as can be with the zebras). Whether the head shot itself was intended or not doesn't matter once illegal contact is made, the result and foul are what matters rule wise.

Ares Krieger I understand but later in the same game Sammy Blais got hit almost the same way but wasn’t injured so he got no call or suspension

Shanny's probably still mad the Blues traded him to the Whalers.

At least it's not like the NBA Finals where there is literally two days in between every single game, so it ends up being 10 days between game 1 and game 4

Oh yeah St. Louis area only had 5 first round players picked in 2016 1st round of the NHL draft. It's probably our first experience with hockey, dope.

Come again?

The guy had to go to the hospital....

@@Christoph5782 And?. It's a full contact sport. Incidents resulting in injury requiring medical aid will happen. How does that change anything?.

@@hardcoreamericangamer8835 Because he was Boarded from behind to the head which resulted in an injury? Onus is on the hitting player not to make an illegal hit which this very much was. Sundqvist changed directions specifically to finish his check, he could've avoided it but chose not to.

@@johnnyholt4181 So it's Oskar's fault the Bruin lost an edge, nearly fell over and turned towards the board to play the puck all in about 1.3 seconds?. Your ignorance and bias is showing buddy.

Hardcore American Gamer No, but it's Sundqvist's fault for making the conscious decision to hit a vulnerable player from behind. 1.3 seconds is also plenty of time to back out of the hit, especially considering it was enough time for him to decide to change his angle to murder the guy

For what? Your stupid defender lowered his body and head down to where the incoming shoulder was.

Brooksie 33 Blues in 6.

Peter Paul no Gloria Yes dirty water

All you bruins fans do is say you guys are going to beat us first it was a sweep then we absolutely dominate you then you guys think it will be in 5 the only reason that game was even close was because of rask

Chha Man Funny how easy Blues fan gets salty just from a man stating his opinion lmao. 🧂

I just think it’s funny how many people underestimate the blues

thatcrazykid660 yeah it’s funny because i’m not even a bruins fan.

Real Jbmnt blues did dominate the 4 minutes of OT, but not the whole game at all, don’t know what that guy is on

It's playoffs they won't suspend for that long

maybe the bruins player shouldn’t have put his head in the way of getting hit

Yea no

@@premiermicro9584 Onus is on the hitting player not to make an illegal Boarding from behind to the head. Grez shouldn't have been there but 100% a dirt hit from Sund.

ThePlyrMava dude, did you even watch it?