agreed. as a TB fan I watch all their games and if it wasn't for Kuch and Hagel, they would be in dead last

Kucherov has 7 empty net goals. 11 empty net points. Play 0 defense.

He’s not a center. It’s like a QB in football. They have way more responsibility and have to exert way more effort.

@@jayTeal 0 defense = not true at all. also empty nets are just part of it. are you telling me none of the others have empty net goals??? I've seen Kuch so many times give up an empty netter to give it to his teammates.

Kucherov is both the best player and the most valuable. He should be winning it.

That's easy: He's had Kuch, Vasi, Hedman, Point, Serg, Perry and more/depth, all the ingredients so to say. Hard to lose with that. And I'm not saying he's not a great coach, he is, but it's easy to see how he never had a real opportunity to show "his" impact on their success: They were simply always too good all around...

@@asharpbflat7179 all true. however, he's won at every level he clearly has a solid track level. He didn't have most of those players with all of those championships. Also the Jack Adams here recently have been given to the most surprising success (hope that makes sense), not the best coached team.

@@asharpbflat7179 Then why did Jim Montgomery win the Jack Adams with the talent he had?

Point doesn't do as well without Kuch sending the puck on a Silver platter for him. I think Hagel is the second most under-rated player. I believe Hagel is the second best player on the Lightning.

@@Ednerd you’re clueless

Point this years is not as great as last seasons. He needs to step up to be a underrated player. Still we know he is a great but this season he could do more.

Well you can’t lead your team in scoring or score 100 pts if you dont play enough games or play games at all. You just dont know your numbers. Kuch has been easily the 2nd best offensive player in the NHL over the last 5 years. And the numbers support that. His 1.46 ppg is second only to McDavids 1.64 ppg. Drai has 1.43 and Mac has 1.4 ppg over that same span. Those are the top 4. That is 120pts over a 82 game schedule. The fact that he missed games means little. He has more hardware in the last 5 years other than McDavid. Statistically, the comparison between Kucherov and MacKinnon is close. Kucherov has more points, power-play goals and owns a better shooting percentage with more primary assists. He leads the league in that dept. His goals created is 3.46 this year. Mac is at 2.78. McDavid is at 3.24. But two numbers best illustrate Kucherov’s value. He has played a role in more of his team’s goals, earning a point in nearly half of the Lightning’s this season (48.6%, compared to MacKinnon’s 43.2). And Kucherov’s point total is 31 points higher than his team’s next-highest scorer (Brayden Point, with 54) despite playing with some of the NHL’s best in Point, Stamkos and Victor Hedman. MacKinnon’s point total is just 18 ahead of Colorado’s next-highest scorer (Mikko Rantanen, with 66). Kuch led the playoffs in scoring two years in a row with over 30 pts and win a cup. Only two players in NHL history can say the same. Their names are called Wayne and Mario. Kuch sat out a whole NHL season and came back to score over 30pts and win a cup. That is impressive. Most like yourself dont really know the numbers too well. That is why Kuch gets disrespected. Neither do most NHL commentators or writers. Sad but true.

Honestly, I'm tired of the 5v5 argument. Literally, Kucherov has 5 more PP pts than MacKinnon. It's not like Kucherov gets his cookies solely from the PP.

Bure Fedorov malkin are the best Russian players

@@User-wt9jk Bure and Fedorov are a clear tier below Kucherov. Only one that has an argument on your list would be Malkin. I grew up in the 90's, Bure was my favorite player, and I watched the wings a lot. Trust me, Kucherov is better, and not even close.

@@Bolt6604 explain how they are below him im so curious 😂

@@User-wt9jk Federov---Points, stats, cant even use the argument that Federov had worse line mates. He didn't as he was with Yzerman for a good portion of his career. Guy was good yes, and a legit franchise player. Many people would argue he wasn't even the best on his team. Lower PPG in both the regular season and the Playoffs. Bure---an electric hockey player, arguably one of the most entertaining hockey players of all time. His speed was other worldly, and was a bonafide goal scorer. However, he was notoriously selfish, which was evident by only 4 seasons in his 13 did he ever eclipse more assists than goals. This is including primary and secondary assists. Kucherov while not as flashy as the two above, is just in a different realm entirely. His intelligence, the ability to see plays develop before they do is something we don't really ever see. (Gretzky is the guy that comes to mind, which is in a tier all on his own.) He is an assist machine, but at the same token a legit goal scoring threat. Why dominate with speed and jaw dropping moves when he can pick apart your defense just standing still. Barring injuries this season he will have just as many 100 point seasons under his belt as Bure and Federov combined......Yeah, not to mention one of the best playoff performers of all time.

@@Bolt6604 I will give him higher hockey iq even though bure and fedorov were high iq players too. Having higher iq doesn’t make him better than them imo though. They were both better skaters, faster, better stick handlers. If you want to argue they aren’t better than him, I think that case can be made but saying he is a clear tier above them is bs

Thats for the people who enjoy sitting through 90 slide power point presentations.

Look at everyone else's +/- on the team first.