Problem with Nilou is they haven't show enough of her She has her big moments during the archon quest but sadly that all we got On the up side I guess it does show how a famous celebrity can be loved just by their work and charming voice alone? So with that reason, it does "make sense" why she is loved for now I really hope they make her second story about her more because I do really like her character after main quest and event

There is one thing that they also both share: their signature weapons do not match their character design at all. Hoyoverse. Please give matching signature weapons 😭😭🙏

I have to say, I disagree with almost everything you say about Nilou, but it's nice to see another video essay in such a short time-frame as well. The only thing I'll say (I really don't want to turn into a hate train), and what I hope will be some constructive criticism, is that I think when you say "[Nilou] is treated as an active protagonist even though her actions show the opposite", there is perhaps a tinge of insincerity here. You've talked a lot about how she is a passive protagonist (and she certainly is), but not a lot at all about how she is supposedly treated as 'active' in such a way that her character is undermined. I simply can't see what you mean when you talk about this contradiction. To me, Nilou is a character through which other characters are able to find strength, and I think that is very well communicated in both her story quest AND the Samsara Cycle. We see many people who are motivated through her presence and companionship alone. All of that aside, and my other disagreements, it's good to see another video from you. We don't have to agree, and I think the concept behind the video is definitely in the right direction. Active vs passive is a solid topic to discuss, but that is perhaps sometimes at the detriment of those characters that do effectively break the rules. Look forward to your next video anyways.👌

I am one of the people who don't considers Nilou passive, tbh. She took a stance to oppose the Academia in a debate despite having no academic background and being a dancer, which was quite brave of her, and I don't agree that others did the work for her. She went around compiling pertinent arguments, and debated a lot before the NPC stepped in. She even called out the opponent in the way he was using the argument "you don't have the qualifications to judge us" by reminding him that he, as a non-dancer, was doing the exact same things towards art . That argument was only ignored because she got a bit heated, but even that I actually appreciate because it shows her passion and also shows the very realistic thing that minorities and oppressed groups often tend to face: being dismissed as soon as they show some emotion over a subject that affects them directly, when their opponents have the privilege of not being affected by the issue being debated and can therefore remain calm all the time. I agree that the NPC interfering took away from the scene and was a bad writing call. But I also thing most players hyperfocus on that, let that become the sole thing engraved in their minds and forget everything Nilou did in the quest. Also, Nilou helping the NPC is not that different from Yoimiya helping NPCs, and i think it was the way the writers chose to portray why people like her. So, I don't think it's fair in the slightest to say that people like yoimiya because she helped them when the quest shows Nilou helping and that's the very thing that the players end up dismissing. Sometimes feel like the fandom played different Nilou quests xD Nilou also had the maturity to, in the end, seeing the NPC daughter and father taking some steps to reconcile, not approach and instead give them time - because she knows that kind of healing takes time, and it showed some maturity on her part when many ther people would probably start celebrating and being annoying.

I'm not everybody but I saw the thumbnail and had to click and say that I **DO** love both of them

Honestly I kind of feel forced to like both of those characters, it’s absolutely subjective now and I talk only from my feelings, but still. I think for them not to feel what “forced” there must be at least one sacrifice they made to do something for, and story needs to point what out. Like even not massive but something at least important, like even comfort, I’m not even talking about life. I don’t really remember any of them doing something like what, they just do good things for the sake of good things, and their goodness wasn’t really anything impressive. Collei’s kindness and sweetness and how many people like her works, because it’s an end of her character development (or no?…I hope no because she’s super interesting character and I want her to be reused) and we’ve seen from where it started. She truly has strong reasons to be good, and to be like what she needed a lot of work to put, and to go outside of her comfort and stop pushing everyone away and being locked in bubble of hate she created. Bennet’s goodness works because he literally is cursed to be unlucky, but he was strong enough to make himself one of luckiest people of Teyvat (having losing friends parents and job you love is very lucky) they all work because they have struggles what affect directly them (yes they both couldn’t do it without some people around them, but it’s a +, because if they just had most tragic and horrific backstory of all and have won against all of their problems alone it would make them Mary sue, because well, no one is strong enough to just stand alone without anyone against their life issues) Also I think perfect example is Madoka from Madoka Magica. Because Madoka is literally perfect. Like literally. She haves 0 character flaws (except being insecure and shy at some moments in life, and becoming very passive throw whole story before the very end) usually what makes us hate a character or don’t like them, think what they’re too boring or something. And Madoka don’t even haves tragic backstory she literally lives in pretty wealthy family what loves and supports her no matter what and she’s very close with them. But also we all know how dark this anime is, probably only this island of happiness attacks us, but it also makes every sacrifice what she have done a lot more weightful. Because as Homura said (it was her first line hah) “Madoka, do you have anything you don’t want to lose in your life? Yes….then don’t even dare to risk with it” but I don’t really want to spoil whole Plot, so here’s a fact: in first timeline Madoka became a magical girl to save a random street cat who was injured (she’s holding what cat in opening) just for you to know, being a magical girl is a tough work: “0 free time, constant fear for your life, fights with other magical girls because without the drop form witches you will die, being a magical girl is a game on survival, so when you make a wish you pay for it with what” and it’s like only half of the horror (because KyuBei don’t know what you need to tell about whole contract conditions even if youre not asked) and Madoka already knew Mami (it was her line) so she knew what sacrifice she was making. And she did what. For one random cat she probably never seen again. And ending of anime is literally this but 100x. Like if someone saves the galaxy but they didn’t sacrificed anything, then you feel nothing. And if someone plays with kids in dirt sacrificing their favorite clothes, WHAT is empathetic. And we actually need to see the sacrifice, not just on words how much they risk. But what’s just my opinion so….

Uh, who is "people"? I love Nilou's personality and can't stand Yoimiya. It really feels like you're taking the way you see the characters and assuming everybody shares that view, which is not true. There's nothing wrong in a character not having the strength and relying on others. Nilou is like that, she knows she doesn't have the strength (physical or mental) to fight for the theater, but she still tries, and doesn't shy away from asking for help for the things she cares about. And the time she could actually help others (Archon Quest) she did it without questioning. To me this feels more real and relatable that the idealized "perfection" of yoimiya, who is always happy and you know in advance will never lose nor be in serious danger.