I remember my Dad saying we were having a picnic on the moors and saw them with a spade i was a baby born in 63

@@jackiesmithsmetaldetecting HOW HORRIBLE!!! You have my my utmost sympathy! What a terrible coincidence!🙏🏼😢🙏🏼

​@jackiesmithsmetaldetecting m2f trans. She MH bashed up her step dad LIKE 😮a man would!!!!

i believe Myra was released from prison in the only way the state could have let her out. BY saying she had died.

Hindley was a severely nasty piece of work in her own right, but nobody knows whether she would ever have killed had she not met Brady. Some ask if _he_ would ever have killed, had he not met her. All of the murders he admitted to (including the ones on their Scottish holiday that she was shocked to hear about through the media years later) occurred after he met her. There is no evidence or suspicion that Brady was involved in any murders at any other time without her in his life, especially before leaving Scotland. And despite claims that he used to follow the standard serial killer routine of harming and killing animals, he was adamant that he never did. In fact he once claimed to have run home crying after seeing an injured horse in Glasgow late one night. Guess we'll never know.

@@halfbakedproductions7887 From what I can ascertain, they weren't cruel to animals. In Emlyn Williams's factional novel, "Beyond Belief", Brady is depicted as trapping a cat in Glasgow and not releasing it until it howled for mercy. But B + H used to scour the local newspapers in Manchester for instances of animal cruelty and note the details of the perpetrators with a view to future revenge. And it's indisputable that Hindley was heartbroken when their dog, Puppet, died. If they DID prefer animals to human beings, they were similar in that respect to Adolf Hitler and Charlie Manson. IMHO, no-one on earth can excuse B + H for their crimes. However, if anyone's looking for a UK killer who WAS viciously cruel to animals, try Michael Stone, perpetrator of the Russell murders in 1996. There have been attempts to blame this crime on Levi Bellfield, despite compelling evidence to the contrary. Having seen Stone depicted as a "poor, innocent man" on several KZfaq channels, I've tried to reply by posting evidence of his unbelievably vicious treatment of small animals (gleaned from more than one source and including a non-redtop British newspaper) that I've found on the internet - and it's always been deleted. In hindsight, I think that was the correct decision. Stone's behaviour was totally and hideously nightmarish.

Totally agree. Seems to be a strange thing that happens with women who commit crimes, there must have been a reason or man actually behind it. I've even seen Rose West described as a victim. You make your own choices in life, if you do something wrong you rightly pay the consequences and can't blame anyone but yourself. It's quite strange the mental gymnastics some people use to make women seem less guilty for what they've done.

Unfortunately there have been loads of others who have done similar things just as bad and some of them not very well reported

I met her in brockhill prison 1998 they put her in the punishment block to live

@@lashaunneymour9690 Wow!

Your mother sounds like a fine person. I agree that hardship doesn’t make a person evil. Myra was born like it, in my opinion, and she chose to act the way she did.

I'm sorry for your loss🌹She was a very strong, special person and a lovely mother 💖

@@GradKat totally agree. Thank you 🙏

@@AussieBenita thank you so much 🙏

I am so sorry for your loss...and you are right nothing can excuse the vile acts of hindley

Yes one of the saddest recordings in the World.

Those tapes broke the police officers who listened to them and during the trial they were played in a separate closed court hearing, no public allowed. The police officers seem to have suffered from what we'd now call PTSD, because there was a song playing in the background of one of the tapes and it was triggering some of those officers for years to come. I've heard the tapes are so horrific that they're classified at the top HMG level by the Home Office. That means technically even the police aren't allowed to access them and it's not known where they're stored now.

I thought he committed suicide and she's still alive

Or did she die in jail she was due for release or was close to getting it then conveniently dies in jail don't get me wrong I hope she is but its.just about convenient

@@msimpson2779 both dead, thankfully

@joe blogs how is he taking the micky?

@@msimpson2779 your thinking of Fred and Rose West

You clearly didn’t pay attention to this documentary if you think Myra was healthy. You probably flicked though it and given your tuppenies worth!

@@paulthrutner9114 physically she was healthy allegedly in the 60 s lol 😆 but mentally in the 60 s I am sure there would be a lot of new era thoughts on all of us ! In fact I had no idea what bi polar was ?? We all have been through things in our life ! But that does not make us want to make innocents suffer ?? ! She wanted his attention ! And did anything to gain it ! Humans have in general a very base attitude to control ! And she certainly Portrayed it and him well !! Look at the staff the German Nazis employed ! You could not treat people like that without hatred !!

and what about Allan never found him

@@paulthrutner9114 Claire said no healthy woman would do what she did.

@@jackiesmithsmetaldetecting😢

It's not about blame, it's about understanding.

She admitted that she NEVER actually killed anyone, she had zero remorse..

It's the banality of evil.

Agree 100/%

play the victim???

Wow! That's your assessment of the situation? Psychopaths and others with deep-seated emotional issues don't just materialize out of nowhere. They are helped along the way.

Ian Brady sperm of the devil

Exactly , we all choose our own path x

Totally agree

Never heard that word, “Bonnie & Clyde Syndrome.”

Sean Harris played him better than anyone, totally creeped me out.

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I recommend reading Smith‘s autobiography if you haven‘t - the way he describes ‚that night‘ when Brady murders someone right in front of him, wrongly thinking Smith would now be part of it, and the sheer terror Smith felt getting out of that house, back to his house, and sitting awake all night until the police station opened at 6am, the sheer terror of those hours, wondering if Brady realises his mistake and is going to come back for Smith, or catch him trying to get to the police, is palpable. Hindley was monstrous, but Brady was absolutely terrifying. And I fully agree with you, that Smith seemed to be a scapegoat and suffered unjustly.

@@lornarettig3215 Can you tell me what his book is named please.

@@magz6763 Apparently ‚Evil Relations‘ by David Smith. It has been republished; my copy from a while ago is called ‚Witness‘, which maybe you could find secondhand. Highly recommended.

@@lornarettig3215 I will do that thank you.

no one made her do anything she chose too

He was bi

He was a psycho sadistic p ... (word )

it was keith

They need to find Brady’s solicitor and get those two briefcases .. they probably say where Keith is buried

@@KittyCatFurbabiesMaria1972 That is what the police want, but the solicitor still has them. "The Home Secretary Priti Patel is to bring in a new Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill which would force the killer’s solicitor to grant police access to briefcases left by the Moors Murderer."

@@janetpendlebury6808 that bill was bought in this April hun x

@@KittyCatFurbabiesMaria1972 Sadly I don't think they will. My guess is the briefcases just contain a prison lifetime of Brady's letters and personal papers, letters from his cronies, a few personal effects etc. It's probably just a load of his usual pompous shite. I think anything relating to Keith's location, had it been written down, would have been detected during cell searches etc. years ago.

Thats awful. I'm sorry you went through that 😔 💕

Bet you haven't killed a bunch of kids.

Bi-sexual.

And Maureen died in the early 1980s of a brain haemorrhage. Meanwhile her oxygen thief sister lived for another 20+ years. Hindley was also outlived by her mother, for a year or so. Nellie Hindley lived in Manchester sheltered accommodation under a false name and I think was outed after Myra died.

I'm pretty sure they're both dead now.

... unfortunately monsters are created

I'm not so sure tbh I think thay am born

Yea butter wouldn't melt in her mouth.

There are definitely plenty men who prioritise their mother over their female partner, too!

Same here, I've had chick's who wouldn't do anything until I said something like gave them the idea. Some wouldn't get out of bed in the morning until I told them to get up. Of the 11 chicks I've lived with over the years only 2 of them lasted more than 3-4 months. Weird but now I think of it a lot of women still want to be children but I didn't like that I want women mature, independent and individual not hanging on my coat tails and waiting for my say so or approval.

@@cheistiandunn7988Maby it was you!

Men are looking for a maid or a mother, not a partner….

@@Basic190 Well, maybe I'm a mouse, then. Not my idea of a good time having mum around 24/7 again, and I don't need a maid. A partner would be pleasant, but too old (and financially destroyed), to keep going through the "relationship" thing anymore.

This is the most detailed doco I have seen on Myra Hindley - goes way back into her childhood.

But would he have become a killer if he hadn’t met her? Together they gave each other strength.

Oh here we go - please dont make excuses for her because she was a woman - she was as evil as him - you might dislike men but thats your problem to deal with

@@williamf4544 Myra wrote to Ian in prison for some years after so it wasn't that she was forced

It's been said that Fred and Rose West were caught in a deadly Mexican standoff, where both were scared of being killed by the other. Perhaps it's the same with Hindley and Brady. Brady had apparently been scared of her a few times but it came to nothing.

You could be right. Why else bring a 17 year old home then chop him up with an axe in your living room? What happened when the others were out of the room? Believe it or not, they had already decided to stop murdering children because that 'project' had ended. They were probably plotting something else at the time of their arrest and I believe were now thinking about bank robberies.

@@halfbakedproductions7887 From what I've read, that's exactly correct. The time gaps between their murders became wider rather than the killings becoming more frequent. I think David Smith was a nasty piece of work. with whom the bobbies didn't enjoy working. He killed his own father later on.

Must admit, got to agree.

This should never be forgotten. Blessings to all those affected by this horror

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