Not all 14” MacBooks are created equal…

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Luke Miani

Luke Miani

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In todays comparison video I'm going to pit 3 14 inch MacBook Pros against each other to see which is best and what differences there are between them. In this comparison we're comparing M1 Pro vs M1 Max, 16 vs 32gb of RAM for M1 Pro and M1 Max, 14 vs 16 GPU cores, 16 vs 24 core GPU, battery live M1 Pro vs M1 Max, thermal performance, etc! There's a lot to talk about with 3 good value MacBook Pros to compare, so let's find out what happens!
Time stamps
0:00 intro
1:58 specs for comparison
3:10 CPU comparison
4:45 GPU comparison
6:57 Battery life graphics test
7:59 Battery life CPU test
9:04 Thermal comparison
10:31 Tinkering with the fan curve
11:55 Analysis of results
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@lukemiani
@lukemiani 2 жыл бұрын
Note: The graphs incorrectly state the side tier MacBook has 32gb when it in fact has 16 as mentioned in the intro. Which configuration of MacBook Pro is best?
@damhnaicandadhoraidh7991
@damhnaicandadhoraidh7991 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Luke. Would you consider testing the *Low Performance Mode* on the M1 Max 24 GPU core model to see if the battery life matches the cheaper models, but also get the benefit of being able to manually switching to "normal" M1 Max for better performance and 400GB/s bandwidth?
@alliejr
@alliejr 2 жыл бұрын
RAM > CPU/GPU all day every day. Almost nothing is CPU-bound. Almost everything is memory-bound.
@Evermore2017
@Evermore2017 2 жыл бұрын
I got the 16” (Pro 16/32 and 2 TB) is the best mix when considering performance, thermals, fans, future proofing and resale).
@alexdubois6585
@alexdubois6585 2 жыл бұрын
The voice of reason tells me 14" 16GB 14GPU 1TB (that's what I'm using right now). But, I'm a hobbyist video/photo-grapher, software developer and only a casual gamer (Rust 80FPS is fine with me)... or I can sell my full desktop and get a 16" 32GB 24GPU 1TB to fulfil all my use cases (and I can run parallel if some software does not run on M1). My eyes will thank me (that's my excuse)...
@zooperman1962
@zooperman1962 2 жыл бұрын
2499 model would be the best
@hammockdweller
@hammockdweller 2 жыл бұрын
I now understand why these machines are so hard to get. Luke has them all. 😀
@gliderman9302
@gliderman9302 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he’s gotta get every MacBook to put out the best comparison videos
@christianscrogins663
@christianscrogins663 2 жыл бұрын
@NOS ULT Yep, when I bought my 2019 13 inch Intel MacBook Pro they had pretty much all the configurations, but definitely had the most stock available for the base models. If I wanted to opt for the 16 inch in any configuration I would have had to wait a week or 2 for it to ship since those were made to order.
@TheMetalMag
@TheMetalMag 2 жыл бұрын
he's working at appel :)
@kailynn3784
@kailynn3784 2 жыл бұрын
I am glad I ordered m1 max without giving 2nd thought the moment the event was finished 😌😝
@cadenchurchill4296
@cadenchurchill4296 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment just made my day 🤣
@tomw4637
@tomw4637 2 жыл бұрын
The thing with battery life: If you run the same test for the same amount of time you’ll definitely decrease the battery on the more powerful one first. A proper test would be completing a number of tasks and seeing what the battery life is after completion. The higher performance will work twice as hard but finish in half the time
@kpbendeguz
@kpbendeguz 2 жыл бұрын
The Cinebench test was about to measure CPU performance only, so the Max had no benefit from the more gpus, it still consumed more power for the same task.
@LarryGanz
@LarryGanz 2 жыл бұрын
I see people in the comments talking about a “battery safe mode“ or “low power mode“, and I would be curious to see what the battery life and performance is with the M1 max using this mode. If M1 max could match the lower binned models battery life, then it would be like having two computers in one. You could choose between performance or battery.
@Geotubest
@Geotubest 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.. I'm wondering the same. I wish Luke would address/test/discuss this in some detail.
@maziarzarea2540
@maziarzarea2540 2 жыл бұрын
I’m exclusively using my M1 pro in low power mode now and it is significantly better. Only had it for a week so far. Even for a 10/16 M1 pro battery life isn’t that great to me in the 14”
@MasTiempoPorFa
@MasTiempoPorFa 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't been super impressed with the battery on my M1 Pro 10/16, good but not great. I'm keen to see how low power mode fairs
@maziarzarea2540
@maziarzarea2540 2 жыл бұрын
@Zi Kun Zeng significantly could be stretching it, it was so bad regularly that it feels somewhat better on low power mode. I feel as if the battery is still learning as it’s only on 5 cycles. I will do more testing. So far I basically have been only doing productivity work nothing to stress the cpu either.
@maziarzarea2540
@maziarzarea2540 2 жыл бұрын
@@MasTiempoPorFa when do you get yours? I’m still testing. But I definitely will keep the laptop
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Luke. That's exactly what I needed to decide between the base and "full fat" Pro CPU.
@ideayep-inactive1564
@ideayep-inactive1564 2 жыл бұрын
Actually I think the silver color looks so much better than space gray. The contrast between silver and black (keyboard) is so impressive. A very clean and classic look!
@kushalshah358
@kushalshah358 Жыл бұрын
thisis correct
@cherylelinsmith743
@cherylelinsmith743 Жыл бұрын
What about showing dirt on silver. I’m debating between the silver and space gray
@vikasswami1804
@vikasswami1804 4 ай бұрын
@@cherylelinsmith743 silver distracts a lot when watching content
@alyssakays367
@alyssakays367 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see these same configurations with the 16”. I wonder if the bigger chassy will make a difference concerning the battery and thermals.
@MightyJabbasCollection
@MightyJabbasCollection 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me feel pretty good about my purchase of the base model 14" (with 1TB). It already has more power than I really need, and runs cooler/longer than the other models (not to mention it being much cheaper).
@kingdrift1136
@kingdrift1136 2 жыл бұрын
How is the temperature and are the fans loud?
@MightyJabbasCollection
@MightyJabbasCollection 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingdrift1136 The only time I’ve had get hot at all or have the fans be audible was when playing Shadow of the Tomb Raider. At all other times it has been cool and silent
@kaitlynjennings
@kaitlynjennings 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I got too!
@95beats40
@95beats40 2 жыл бұрын
@@MightyJabbasCollection cool that you can game on it. I have a i5 MacBook Pro and it seriously can’t run the most basic games on Apple Arcade
@waddellvision
@waddellvision Жыл бұрын
Late to the game, but now that the M2 Air has been announced, I'm now looking towards the base model 14", what type of workflow do you have, and have you noticed any slowdowns or particular pain points?
@balthus9265
@balthus9265 2 жыл бұрын
I’d go for the middle too. Seems to be the best cost/benefit ratio. Regardless of your choice, any of them has hardware power to last for very long time. Another great review ! Congrats !
@jamesp5923
@jamesp5923 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be really interested in seeing a battery endurance test doing normal things (maybe even PCMark) for these 14" models. I mean under load, of course more cores will mean more power consumption but it would be interesting to see if the same happens when they're idling.
@headbangax
@headbangax 2 жыл бұрын
I was just about to write the same comment :) Would be very interesting to see the battery life differences during "normal day usage" like browsing, listening to music etc. Maybe Luke can provide us with some information here. Thanks ;)
@ZayasRaymond1
@ZayasRaymond1 2 жыл бұрын
I went with the base 14”, it’s light, battery lasts forever and packs enough power to edit my photos quickly.
@NonsensicalSpudz
@NonsensicalSpudz 2 жыл бұрын
doesn't the base m1 air also do amazing with photos
@ZayasRaymond1
@ZayasRaymond1 2 жыл бұрын
@@NonsensicalSpudz The base M1 is more than adequate to edit photos if you have enough RAM.
@jeromescott2113
@jeromescott2113 2 жыл бұрын
Luke - great comparison! While I agree with the spec choice, I went with the 16” M1 Pro with 16GB of RAM and 1 TB hard drive. The $200 difference was worth it for me for a larger screen, better speakers and even less fan noise.
@neocs193p
@neocs193p 2 жыл бұрын
This is precisely the comparison I was most interested in. However I would have liked to see a light-use battery comparison between the 3 laptops. Maybe next time. Great video nonetheless.
@two_horus7337
@two_horus7337 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Video! I follow your channel since years and just wanted to say: well done with the videography! It is really a joy to watch your videos and to see your style change and improve over time.
@heliogenesi
@heliogenesi 2 жыл бұрын
Ok battery life is worse when the cores are under stress but how about regular use? That's what a lot people are wondering since you can live with plugging in more when doing heavy tasks like rendering or gaming, but if the battery life difference is not that big when using daily like browsing or lighter general work than the m1 max on the 14 will be much more acceptable.
@lukey333
@lukey333 2 жыл бұрын
need to know this ^^^ as i ordered the m1 max // if it’s like a 13 hr battery versus an 11 hr or so under regular usage i can definitely live with that but if it’s like half the battery it would be an issue i need to know !
@heliogenesi
@heliogenesi 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukey333 I don't think it'll be too bad at regular use or else we would have heard from all the reviewers by now, as a lot people have 14 inch m1 max's.
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 2 жыл бұрын
Why on earth would you want to buy an M1 Max machine if not for doing heavy tasks quite regularly, though?
@heliogenesi
@heliogenesi 2 жыл бұрын
@@BilisNegra Because you if you need the power of the max every once in a while you still need it don't you? Also people go for the more powerful model for future proofing too, I used my last macbook for 8 years. M1 max is very powerful today, it will be considered average after a certain amount of years.
@bezgir
@bezgir 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 14" 32/10/24 M1 Max. I get around 12-13 hours with light usage (30-40 browser tabs, watching youtube, 6-7 apps open on background, light coding, brightness about half, no low power mode but "optimize streaming on battery" is on). Would I give up the potential benefits of the Max for 1-2 hours battery difference? I decided not to :) People need more light usage tests guys!
@michaelkaliski7651
@michaelkaliski7651 2 жыл бұрын
The base model more closely aligns with what most people want from a laptop, decent performance but great battery life. The middle and high spec models seem to be more suited to people who really need a desktop but who are unable to set up a desktop system for some reason, restricted space, or constant travel, etc. The fact is, if only the base model was available, it would work fine for practically anyone. Stuff would just take a minute or two longer to process and that isn’t always a bad thing. Finally, lower temperatures translate into less electrical stress on components and more battery cycles. A pretty compelling case in favour of purchasing the base model, saving $900 and having a computer that will ultimately last longer.
@MarbsMusic
@MarbsMusic 2 жыл бұрын
The cores draw some power regardless of activity, you also need to remember the Max has a faster bus as well which is drawing more power, plus the additional decoders etc... even if all those things aren't being used they will draw power. I went with the 16" model but the same configuration, wanted larger battery and screen... it also got me better thermals and better sound as well. If I had gotten the 14" I would choose the same one you did!
@tangyichen6088
@tangyichen6088 2 жыл бұрын
would love your opinion on the difference in term of speaker quality between the 14" and 16"!
@kshitizjha
@kshitizjha 2 жыл бұрын
@@tangyichen6088 It's not a huge difference but noticeable. The bass is a lot more clear and the sound stage seems fuller and it's a tad bit louder.
@brianpopp
@brianpopp 2 жыл бұрын
I think you are spot on for choosing your config for the 14! I think I would personally go for the 16" Max, 24 core, 32 GB, 2 TB to replace my MacBook Pro and iMac for my specific use case. Still spendy, but consolidates everything in to a powerhouse that I can take from my desk to the dining room table.
@mikkoleivonen2905
@mikkoleivonen2905 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful Luke. What is immeasurable is factoring in your needs 4 or 6 years from now. I can't be purchasing a new MBP every second year, so like a lot of folks here, some of us must 'predict' if we will get better and better, use more intensive processing and graphics, and be making projects that will grow in size .... 4 years from now. So buying 'for how I use my computer today' is fine if you are working in an 24-month upgrade cycle. In my case, I have to buy where the puck is going - out 5 years from now, which means I will overshoot the spec runway somewhat today and pony up for better version.
@gnkstudios6138
@gnkstudios6138 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a whole video dedicated to these 3 machines for gpu tasks like fusion after effects and whatever final cut equivalent. Lol specifically the 24c model
@jonnyjonasson252
@jonnyjonasson252 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Was the experience on FCPX timeline smooth even with the 16 core GPU or would you get the 24 core for 4K editing, or even 32 core? 🤔
@dougc84
@dougc84 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still incredibly happy I chose the 14" M1 Max with the 24-core GPU. Battery life is still insanely good (especially compared to my now-sold 2018 MBP) and a huge step up for general tasks, and equal, if not better, when running high-power workloads. But I use my Mac docked 95% of the time, so I'd rather have the little bit of added performance, especially after being bottlenecked by the base GPU my 2018 had. I've got a machine that will work for me for years to come with all the performance I'll ever need.
@stefc9986
@stefc9986 2 жыл бұрын
Same set up I got for the same reason
@salttothesea
@salttothesea 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your post. I was starting to feel bad about my choice which is due to arrive soon. Are you noticing the fans much?
@stefc9986
@stefc9986 2 жыл бұрын
@@salttothesea Im using it to type this response so let me give you a quick run down on my personal experience. I use it daily to edit on premiere pro and after effects. Even after filling my time line with tons luts colour grading and after effects comps I have not heard the fan kick in once.
@dougc84
@dougc84 2 жыл бұрын
@@salttothesea i've heard them once. with 14 apps open, one being chrome with a dozen tabs, and another being a fairly large logic project. still didn't skip a beat.
@jjellen5804
@jjellen5804 2 жыл бұрын
How much ran and ssd?
@daroga
@daroga 2 жыл бұрын
Ended up with a base model 14". My work hardly touches the binned CPU/GPU, but has all the benefits of the externals (coming from a 2018 13"). I've thought a lot about getting at 16", and if they offered the 8/14 CPU/GPU in that model I probably would have, but in the end I'd be mostly paying for a CPU/GPU bump that I would never noticeably use. Thanks for confirming that there is a (slight) battery difference between the 8/14 and the 10/16 M1 Pros. I had suspected that there might be, but neat to see that tested as I don't think I've seen that elsewhere.
@fitch8363
@fitch8363 2 жыл бұрын
Your testing and analysis has been a big help is sorting out the options. Thanks for that. I ordered the 16" M1 Pro with 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD. Screen real estate and battery life are important for what I do (Action/Thriller Fiction writing) which doesn't involve graphics or video editing but usually involves a lot of active desktops (I have 12 in use right now) full of reference data. I like to write in a lot of locations where there are no wall plugs so I leave home with everything I'll need already loaded into RAM (the iPhone hotspot allows unanticipated, though somewhat slow, searches). The 32GB was future proofing since I frequently run out of RAM on my 16GB 15" 2015 MBP. I plan to keep this one as my daily use machine for at least 5 years, preferably 7 years.
@vishal0815
@vishal0815 2 жыл бұрын
I will be going with the middle option as well. Thanks for cementing that decision
@arpamaj9
@arpamaj9 2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered my base model 14'', sending my 15'' 2015 finally on retirement. I do web programming and music production (and sometimes light video editing), and i have to say that the base model for me is more than enough. I can't wait to get my hands on it 🤓
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn 2 жыл бұрын
hey btw, what ended up happening to the frankenmac? I've seen like 2 videos in that series, and I know you eventually gave up but I don't know why. Couldn't end up getting the upgraded gpu to work or something right?
@drsmith1988
@drsmith1988 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. My workloads are fairly modest. I like the idea of the base 14” upgraded to the 1 TB SSD. Although, I think another way of looking at battery life would be how many videos you render or other workloads you get done on a battery charge. I suspect it would make the max look better. But, I suspect the higher temp is reducing efficiency of the M1 Max.
@TechnoViel
@TechnoViel 2 жыл бұрын
I am also most tempted by the non-binned pro with 1TB SSD, same as you... BTW: That disk is significantly faster than the 512GB one - could that have impacted some of the results, or are all these benchmarks independent of disk speed? I was surprised how much difference you had between binned and non-binned in the video editing tests.
@ddani-ey6dx
@ddani-ey6dx 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you do a comparison like this including the max with a 24 core GPU, this config always gets overlooked. This chip with the 32gb RAM seems like a pretty decent middle ground to me…
@spoony01428
@spoony01428 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, it was exactly the one I was waiting for and the one I needed to hear!
@vishwasmattur2027
@vishwasmattur2027 Жыл бұрын
As a developer, the $500 jump to the 10 core model seems a bit too much. I'm already paying $2000 for the base version, and spending 25% more for just slightly better performance, extra storage and fast charging doesn't seem reasonable to me. I can get a 500GB external SSD for $50 if I need the extra storage. If you're not a professional media editor, the base version is more than enough, imo
@Zorastegard
@Zorastegard 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these test Luke! But why does no one test the M1Max in Battery Safe Mode when not plugged in and normal daily usage? I missed this results. On my test the M1Max does then prioritize to do not use the Fans when in usage until it really need it when it heats up. I think the M1Max on Battery Safe Mode will perform well AND will have long Bettery Lifetime ;)
@m.a.r.i.a_off7307
@m.a.r.i.a_off7307 2 жыл бұрын
do you know if this mode is available on the m1 pros or is it only on the m1 max?
@m-stat9
@m-stat9 2 жыл бұрын
@@m.a.r.i.a_off7307 low power mode is for all models :)
@m.a.r.i.a_off7307
@m.a.r.i.a_off7307 2 жыл бұрын
@@m-stat9 thanks!
@Zorastegard
@Zorastegard 2 жыл бұрын
@@m.a.r.i.a_off7307 yes i got battery low power mode also on my 2019 MB 16, it’s available since Monterey 12 in Systemsetting>Battery. Only High Power Mode is exclusively for M1Max 16 Inch 2021.
@m.a.r.i.a_off7307
@m.a.r.i.a_off7307 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zorastegard I didn't know that, thanks :)
@moghaderi2584
@moghaderi2584 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your great review of the different spec 14inch models!
@litebkt
@litebkt 2 жыл бұрын
I just got my base model 14 last night. I did up the storage to 1TB. I’ve done a lot with it all day and I’ve got 67 percent charge still left. I’m glad I didn’t spring for the bling.
@polee2004
@polee2004 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Luke, this video is very insightful! Looks like I will be getting the base model for its longer battery life!
@TheCrossfitter
@TheCrossfitter Жыл бұрын
Dude keep doing your thing you are so clear and to the point yet also thorough 💙
@BrianJones-wk8cx
@BrianJones-wk8cx 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. I wonder what impact adjusting the fan curve has on battery life overall, especially across a variety of workloads. I ended up with the middle config as well, though I could see a broad swath of users not benefiting from the bump over the base config. The move to Apple Silicon has really lifted the value proposition across base models. The Air-even two years later-still remains an incredible value in the laptop space.
@prathamprasoon2535
@prathamprasoon2535 2 жыл бұрын
Really happy with my base 14 ", fantastic device!
@jarosawwisniewski9755
@jarosawwisniewski9755 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the battery discharges linearly. I mean, I would trust more the Cinebench CPU benchmark results if they were started with fully charged battery on all machines. The energy consumption measured this way could produce a bit different results, who knows? :)
@SuperPudley
@SuperPudley 2 жыл бұрын
I see that the “middle” MacBook that you show in the beginning of the video has 10 core CPU, 16 GPU, and 16 GB RAM, but in your charts, you are showing it with 32 go RAM, was that just a mistake or did I miss something?
@Ivan_1986
@Ivan_1986 2 жыл бұрын
Also caught this straight away. I guess M1 Pro 10 / 16 has 32 GB, just like the 1M Max version. Or does it?:) Went for w 14” M1 Pro 10 / 16 / 32 GB myself with 4TB SSD. Should be an ultimate config for years years to come.
@m-stat9
@m-stat9 2 жыл бұрын
it was a mistake, and I recommend 10/16/16/1TB myself
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 2 жыл бұрын
Take a look at Luke's pinned comment on top.
@Optable
@Optable Жыл бұрын
@@m-stat9 I have both the 10/16 and 8/14 because i won it. Go with the 8/14. Much quieter, same noticeable speed, not meant to *strictly* game on to begin with at 16gb modern day, and i've run both the same exact creative suites, ms suite, hundreds of tabs. The 8/14 is all you need, and i'm in Cinema4D, Photoshop, After Effects, Firefox, Outlook, and Excel all day long simultaneously.
@Speedsterawesome
@Speedsterawesome 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the exact configuration I got! Just waiting on it to get delivered.
@V.D.L.315
@V.D.L.315 2 жыл бұрын
This is the comparison video that wants me to subscribe to your channel; thank you! By the way, I watch all your comparison MacBook videos from the last couple of days.
@jeanpaulmedellin
@jeanpaulmedellin 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a concept artist, I use Photoshop, Zbrush and starting on Blender, and sometimes I use Illustrator and Indesign. The 14" base model is perfect for me, specially since I need to upgrade my MBP mid 2012 (hich by the way, it's still going strong, but starts to show it age).
@13StJimmy
@13StJimmy 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I used Zbrush a lot in college and wish my laptop back then could handle half as much as this base model can😂
@jameseiner
@jameseiner 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the exact same 10CPU / 16GPU / 16GB / 1TB 14" MacBook Pro as well (actually, even down to the color xD) and I gotta say, it's amazing. I WAS getting worried about my battery life though, since it had been draining rather quickly, while I had only heard good things about Apple Silicon battery life before. But this video eased those concerns a little, and I think that it'll all be alright :)) All in all, great video, I really like the style that you've developed with your stuff. Keep up the good work! :D
@rajanpatel65
@rajanpatel65 2 жыл бұрын
Another great vid Luke! Watched it twice, quad "fantastic display". What would the battery life be like when measuring for fixed workloads rather than time to do work. For example if I have x amount of work to do, which does it quicker and has how much battery life left? Would be interesting to know.
@adenosinetriphosphate6167
@adenosinetriphosphate6167 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the great comparison Luke! could you please compare the battery life between these 3 with light usage (web browsing, youtube, pages/microsoft word, etc.)? would be curious to see how much battery they use when they're not being pushed so hard
@bezgir
@bezgir 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 14" 32/10/24 M1 Max. I get around 12-13 hours with light usage (30-40 browser tabs, watching youtube, 6-7 apps open on background, light coding, brightness about half, no low power mode but "optimize streaming on battery" is on). People need more light usage tests guys!
@remy8587
@remy8587 2 жыл бұрын
I want to know if there are any differences in battery life under regular loads. When we dont push performance.
@fastenal812
@fastenal812 Жыл бұрын
@luke Miani. Thanks for the video and all your work! I just ordered the 10/16/16/1tb in space grey. 2 questions- in your opinion how long do you think the 16gb ram option will perform well until apps and OS just need more? 2- in your opinion what age is optimal to sale a MacBook Pro to get your moneys worth and upgrade? Thanks again!
@mabellim2537
@mabellim2537 2 жыл бұрын
Love your Video's Luke but can you tell me if you are able to use the M1 Pro to be connected to three 4K displays because Apple's specifcations did not mention this. They only mentioned 2 6K displays?
@walterwiniana
@walterwiniana 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Luke your videos are always very informative and very helpful as I’m looking to purchasing one of these products very soon, have a good day 👍🏼
@JN-ml1qw
@JN-ml1qw Жыл бұрын
Luke is my life saver! Thanks for the exact info I was looking for!
@theo-donaldstewart2062
@theo-donaldstewart2062 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for! Thnks!
@thomasweber3954
@thomasweber3954 2 жыл бұрын
Very intersting Test! Thank you for your work :-) Benchmarks are great, but what i really would like to know is the behaviour (battery, thermal, fan-noise/rpm) in normal work with no or multiple displays (i have a macbook pro 16" 2016 using it with one or two external displays (eizo 4k and 2560*1440) and the fan noise is killing me in normal work) My question is: what are the battery and noise differences in using no external, 1 or 2 external (or 4 with max) displays with the 14" or 16" mbp? (normal, pro, max) - I would really love to see a test like this. Thank you so much.
@edwarddodge7937
@edwarddodge7937 2 жыл бұрын
Base model is the sweet spot. Bump up the the drive to 1TB and make sure to spend $20 extra to get the high-capacity charger and you're good to go.
@haelthibeault3092
@haelthibeault3092 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison. This is exactly what I was wondering! Once I found out how long it would take to get it, I decided just to place the order for what I thought I would want without all this kind of information. I decided on the M1 Max with 24 GPU cores (to save a little money) because I think added GPU performance could be useful for writing and testing custom Machine Learning code. I know the processor has a dedicated neural engine but I want all the GPU cores I can afford to play with in the future. Even if they aren't used by default, if the hardware is there I can probably find a way to use it with some custom software control.
@nullnone3746
@nullnone3746 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you choose the Mac if you are doing ML? Nvidia has apparently better support as they have CUDA and being widely used
@abhaykelvin5830
@abhaykelvin5830 2 жыл бұрын
This is the comparison I was looking for
@ianblakemore4681
@ianblakemore4681 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm! Very interesting Luke, I am in the process of deciding which 14" MacBook Pro to buy and this has been very helpful but what about the 16gb of unified memory? I am going to be using it for photo editing (probably with photoshop) and video editing, could the memory be best at 32gb?
@CoderGuyMan
@CoderGuyMan 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Luke, the middle one is what I am leaning toward. I am going to wait for a good refurb price once all the KZfaq creators send their test units back 🤣
@watchtheskies
@watchtheskies 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Luke you have given us conflicting stats on the middle Macbook? in the first section you say it has 16gb Ram and in your charts you show it as having 32gb Ram?
@ashp6720
@ashp6720 2 жыл бұрын
This comparison is what ive been looking for. Thanks
@mynamesjeffhardly
@mynamesjeffhardly 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I've been researching for a long while, watching many review videos over and over trying to make the right purchase since these are really pricey purchases that you will be tied to. I was looking into the 16 and 24 core. I think for the extra $600 and wait time on the dilevery, it might not be the good choice for me. I don't play games and all I do is video and photo edit. I think the 16 might be more fitting for me. Thank you.
@Fernie52984
@Fernie52984 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect video. Thank you. You answered the exact questions I had
@luked3172
@luked3172 2 жыл бұрын
That's the one i'd go with, for sure. The extra cores just take up more power. It's an undeniable matter of wattage, the'll just use more. The extra battery life will have a better benefit for most people than a slight boost in performance.
@johnny_ma
@johnny_ma 2 жыл бұрын
After deliberating for a bit, I ordered the 14inch base model and spent the extra $20 to upgrade the charger to 96w to get fast charging. I wanted to get it in a reasonable amount of time as I already sold my 2018 MacBook Pro and didn't want to wait until mid/late December
@princeteh5258
@princeteh5258 2 жыл бұрын
Love the comparison Luke! Can you make your preferred 14 inch vs 13 M 1 based and MacBook Air M 1 base pls
@jkev57i
@jkev57i 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased the 16-inch version of the MacBook Pro you consider to be the best and the laptop you intend to use every day. I've been very pleased with mine. I haven't heard the fan come on once. It is definitely an improvement on my previous laptop - the Intel MacBook Pro 16-inch. The fan used to go on all the time.
@CarlosBarronJr
@CarlosBarronJr 2 жыл бұрын
would love this kind of comparison for the 16" models
@King_K_Rool_
@King_K_Rool_ 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Luke, was the MaxBook Pro loud when you cranked the fans up the max?
@TKGZONE
@TKGZONE 2 жыл бұрын
Can't decide between the base 14 or 16. Could you do a comparison between what you see like video editing views and split screen between the 2? Can you split screen on the 14 and still have a good experience?
@sl05bps
@sl05bps 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Do you think everything you said for the 14 inch will also ring true for the 16 inch?
@hichamlahlou2145
@hichamlahlou2145 2 жыл бұрын
Ordered the same as the middle one!! It’s the good value between performance and configuration. 👍🏼
@llewellynb592
@llewellynb592 2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered the base model 14 inch model. It is more than i need as i don"t do video editing , or music editing , at present I am using a 2012 '13, Mac Book Pro with 500 gb ssd and 16 gig ram. it meets my needs . But I like the new upgrades this new Mac Book will provide plus Apple support for years to come.This will be a huge upgrade witch I am sure I will really like. Great review.
@ulm287
@ulm287 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! But your graphs show that you are using the 32 go on the mid model. Are these typos?
@markosoonurm
@markosoonurm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very needed test!
@PORP65
@PORP65 2 жыл бұрын
What did you compare now? In your graphs the mid tier machine read 10/16/32GB and at the end you said you will be using the 10/16/16GB machine which one was it?
@tsong1492
@tsong1492 2 жыл бұрын
This is the comparison many of us have been waiting for! You just confirmed that the base model M1 Pro is everything I need. Thanks, Luke! Great content as always.
@enriquet548
@enriquet548 2 жыл бұрын
Do those results change if you max out the monitors on all the Macs?
@richrise4065
@richrise4065 Жыл бұрын
How much faster does the fast charging charge versus the base model? I’m deciding between the base and the upgraded M1 Pro.
@alyx6427
@alyx6427 2 жыл бұрын
would've been a bit nicer to see the difference in battery compared to the m1 pro and air base model as well
@spaceitself
@spaceitself 2 жыл бұрын
You could check his older videos or search it up to compare it yourself. Sure it would have been nice though.
@Epicgamer_Mac
@Epicgamer_Mac 11 ай бұрын
Nice vid Luke. It does get me wondering, in your cinebench test, how does using TG Pro to ramp up the fans affect performance? I’m interested to know if you got a higher score because the fans kept the temps down to avoid throttling.
@Ezra_Haze
@Ezra_Haze 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison, just subbed
@pipapaul09
@pipapaul09 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I would love to know how much the RAM affects the battery life … do you have any opinion about that?
@RebeccaEdwardsJamesEdwards
@RebeccaEdwardsJamesEdwards 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison! Thank you!!
@ronaldmarcellana5169
@ronaldmarcellana5169 2 жыл бұрын
Is it really advisable to buy even the base model 14' macbook pro? Thanks in advance.
@zahraarshad3222
@zahraarshad3222 2 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of getting the 14” with 1tb and 32 GB , but I’m not sure which core engine to get the 8 core or 10 core? I will be studying from September. I will need it for researching, writing essays, KZfaq, watching films / tv and Adobe CC - mostly premier pro, indesign, photoshop and illustrator. This will also become my everyday laptop as well. Which do you think would work best for me ? I have spoken to the apple experts they said to buy the base model and upgrade to 1tb and 32 gb.
@ksam777
@ksam777 2 жыл бұрын
Luke, I purchased the M1 Max, 64GB & 2TB as it was in stock a the store on opening day. Love the computer but did notice the shorter battery life. In the end, I did the same as you. Ordered the 14" Pro 16 core, 16 GPU, 32GB ram and 2 TB SSD to future proof a little. The problem - I won't see it until Dec 8th and my 15 days is up this week on the Max. I'll have to live with LY's M1 for a few more weeks.
@Dornavver
@Dornavver 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Luke! Why does someone miss out on fast charging when opting for a base model? You can choose a 96W charger for +20 money... Which should be a no-brainer when buying a laptop in this price class.
@aterix
@aterix 2 жыл бұрын
If I'm only using the MacBook for audio, is there any benefit from having the higher memory bandwidth in the M1 Max? If not, I'll just get the 16" M1 Pro with 32 GB of RAM.
@trueaffinity1101
@trueaffinity1101 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a 10+14 vs 10+16 core comparison and whether it is beneficial to spend an extra $100 for two more cores
@MrDucatiV4
@MrDucatiV4 2 жыл бұрын
There a few videos already done with this testing. The results are nearly identical and is not worth spending the extra $200-300. With the money you save you can put it towards a 2tb external SSD drive and portable battery bank for the laptop
@earlmcmanus194
@earlmcmanus194 2 жыл бұрын
The more tests I see the more I'm affirmed in my choice of the base model.
@stephenbaxter3369
@stephenbaxter3369 2 жыл бұрын
Please see my recommendation.
@earlmcmanus194
@earlmcmanus194 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenbaxter3369 , huh?
@m-stat9
@m-stat9 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenbaxter3369 ??
@stephenbaxter3369
@stephenbaxter3369 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on the 16in Mac Pro. Keyboard feels good. Screen good. Good array of ports including 3 Thunderbolt/USB4. Starting Price here in the UK is £2399. OS is latest Monterey. I recommend buying from Amazon Prime on 5 monthly payments. Look for a Moshi case not yet available for 2021.
@M7MDVideos
@M7MDVideos 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your helpful videos Luke, i got a 14” 16gpu, 32ram and 1tb ssd
@BenMayMusic
@BenMayMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I would've liked to see the battery tests done with mAh remaining and starting at 80%, rather than Apple's estimated percentages and due to non-linear discharge rate. Also, did you let the computers cool down fully before the next tests? That could have caused the M1 Max model to suffer more on the R23 thermal test. Unsurprisingly, the more powerful SoC uses more power!
@DanRustle
@DanRustle 2 жыл бұрын
do you own test of youtube the coutnless test from other channels.
@fool4jc777
@fool4jc777 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please tell me the dimensions of the BOX of the 14" Macbook Pro? Thank you so much!
@Raveneffect1989
@Raveneffect1989 2 жыл бұрын
I've just gone for the middle model, though I went for 32GB of Ram to run Pro Tools at its optimal setting. My first computer purchase since 2014. Also opens up a lot of options for other creative software that I currently can't run.
@alexbentkowska8601
@alexbentkowska8601 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I ordered! That makes me feel better about my decision :)
@courtneybraziel5656
@courtneybraziel5656 2 жыл бұрын
How is the fan noise on it in day to day use?
@pgreenx
@pgreenx 2 жыл бұрын
What happens to the battery if you run the max machine at low gpu/cpu usage only ? I was told by apple, that some of the gpu cores turn off if you dont use them so you get the extra power when you need but the battery doesn't use more power if you dont
@Larry77777
@Larry77777 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Luke: Higher fan speeds cause lower battery times. That's one more reason why I love my (no fan no noise) M1 Air which far exceeds my performance requirements.
@iyancupliz
@iyancupliz 2 жыл бұрын
subscribed. Luke's videos helps me to narrow down my choices with m1 lineup
@emmanuelorupabo3891
@emmanuelorupabo3891 2 жыл бұрын
Ok Luke, the think the best config would be the M1 Pro 10-CPU / 16-GPU / 32-GB RAM and 1 TB Storage. Which would be the exact same price as the M1 Max 10-CPU / 24-GPU / 32-GB RAM and 512 GB storage in your test. But I have another question for you. At a lower screen brightness and with low power mode turn on, how much battery life do you get back out of the M1 Max in your test? The reason I’m asking because that’s the exact congregation I picked. I have my computer in hand and I have a week before I can return it. If I want to change to my recommended spec I would have to wait until Dec 17-24 to get it. Is it worth the wait, or would be change in brightness and low power mode give me enough battery back to be ok. Any one can chime in. I’m all ears.
@atacant
@atacant 2 жыл бұрын
I am weirded out about the fact that the cpu test used more battery in the max even tho the cpu part is the same. I was looking forward on getting the 32gb ram 512ssd m1 max 24 core. Can you do a “Low power mode” test between them to see whether or not that matters when you are just casually using them? Because I feel like that might be the deciding factor to me
@shepherdpp
@shepherdpp 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to know exactly the same as I already ordered an 32+1T MAX
@kingsamvisuals
@kingsamvisuals 2 жыл бұрын
@@shepherdpp The entire SOC is being powered. Memory interface, ram, etc
@VMYeahVN
@VMYeahVN 2 жыл бұрын
Part of me doesn't think it will make too much a difference. The default mode is "Auto", so if you are just doing normal tasks it should already be functioning in "low power mode" until you start doing tasks that require more power. I'm curious to see if forcing it to Low Power mode does keep it in low power mode on certain tasks that the system may otherwise think need more power though, certain middle ground tasks.
@atacant
@atacant 2 жыл бұрын
@@VMYeahVN I aggree with you on that it might not make a difference but so far we do not really have any real usage test data from any real reviewers of this specific 24 core model. The SOC being bigger might use more power in general tasks too and that is the part I am mainly wondering. Would be great if someone publishes some "real world regular usage" data and numbers as it is quite lacking so far.
@mltamarlin
@mltamarlin 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the max still has double memory bandwidth, even with the same amount of memory, which could use more power.
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