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Now that is a Bowl Saver!!! Coring a bowl in seconds!

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ronald kanne

ronald kanne

2 жыл бұрын

In this video Ronald Kanne (woodturner in the Netherlands) shows his new toy/tool. It is a huge bowl saver or in other words a coring system for big blocks of wood. Or even half logs... The machine is home made and not for sale... :-)
With ​a huge thank you to Jan Hovens.
Camera and editing by Lies Geluk, Lucky view Productions.
About Ronald Kanne
Ronald is a wood turner in the Netherlands. He makes commissioned work and his own free work. And every week turns out to be a little too short to get all the work done... He also runs a webshop for other wood turners. It's called: www.dehoutdraaierij.nl. This webshop is in Dutch, English and German. The website that contains his own work is called www.ronaldkanne.nl. You will also find these links in the video.
Tools used in this video:
No tools other than the Mastodon have been used in this video.
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@DanaOredson
@DanaOredson Ай бұрын
After having finally gotten a coring system (oneway), I now see the extreme genius of this machine. My god, the time savings!
@erniesmith1097
@erniesmith1097 3 ай бұрын
CRICKY Sir Ronald you bloody ripper, I like people that think outside of the bowl or square and your ticking all the boxes so far. Just brilliant engineering and it works. Keep the dream alive son Aussie Aussie Aussie GDAY MATE from brisbane Australia
@StraightThread
@StraightThread 2 жыл бұрын
There was a lot of engineering that went into that machine for it to work so perfectly. It is excellent. Thanks for sharing.
@MightyWizardTim
@MightyWizardTim 3 ай бұрын
That is sweet! Very cool machine.
@HenkHoenderdos
@HenkHoenderdos Жыл бұрын
Krachtige en een nieuw monster om productie te maken complimenten voor jullie !!!
@stephanhabicht8707
@stephanhabicht8707 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ronald, I knew that Jan had to be involved in this project, I mean, he is dutch too.. you should drink some beer together on a regular basis to keep us entertained. Great work!
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
in your aswer I spacially like the part about drinking beer on a regular basis... :-)
@savewildlife2732
@savewildlife2732 2 жыл бұрын
Lol well maybe instead of a trailer I try and be a crew member in a yatch and have them use logs as bumpers and life jackets lol. Thanks for sharing your amazing creation
@alinthekeys
@alinthekeys 2 жыл бұрын
Nice coring system, watching from key west . Florida thanks
@jimcy1319
@jimcy1319 Жыл бұрын
If you had invented that 600 years ago you'd be in the history books.
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne Жыл бұрын
but 600 years ago there were no 4kW Motors, inverters and carbides... 🙂
@jimcy1319
@jimcy1319 Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldkanne water wheel 🎡😜
@peterhendriks1972
@peterhendriks1972 2 жыл бұрын
OMG..... this is a great machine.... you are lucky to have a friend like that. I want to wish you many hours of fun with this machine. Peter.
@markb8954
@markb8954 2 жыл бұрын
Ron! Great machine, but you need a nice cushion pillow for those blanks to fall onto. 👍👍
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
I think you have a point there Mark! or a pile of shavings would do....
@patminister4414
@patminister4414 Жыл бұрын
Jumped to the mastodon and that's an amazing beast you and Jan built
@patminister4414
@patminister4414 Жыл бұрын
PS keep telling the missus that beer is good for the brain but she never believes me
@frankdelange540
@frankdelange540 2 жыл бұрын
wauw……what a machine, and what a Nice area to work in.
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
I know, i'm lucky to work at home... :-)
@leodaalmr
@leodaalmr Жыл бұрын
Hey Ronald, super!
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne Жыл бұрын
Dank je Leo!
@tangobravo8889
@tangobravo8889 2 жыл бұрын
And its not made in China, incredible ! What an amazing tool!! Excellent video👍
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tango Bravo!
@lewisgreenway5065
@lewisgreenway5065 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I found this channel, that is one hell of a piece of machinery.
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lewis!
@spinfieldturners
@spinfieldturners 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. An awesome piece of kit!
@thomascollins72
@thomascollins72 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed from Los Angeles. Love the videos and work. Thank you.
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tom!
@DanaOredson
@DanaOredson 9 ай бұрын
That thing’s amazing!
@bobboyer9440
@bobboyer9440 2 жыл бұрын
Saw a video where they sell the scrap off the first cut for planters. Thought I would pass this on to you.
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob. I had found out already. It seems more easy to get rid of the planters than the bowls...😅
@matt_smu4380
@matt_smu4380 2 жыл бұрын
looks like a real machine ! Great stuff !
@curtisbolyard819
@curtisbolyard819 2 жыл бұрын
Production for sure. Great machine.
@michaelmcnally
@michaelmcnally Жыл бұрын
Whoa! That is the best thing! Well done!
@mikelarlham6764
@mikelarlham6764 Жыл бұрын
That is such an amazing machine, brilliant!!
@roelandstoter
@roelandstoter 2 жыл бұрын
Ronald,... this is next level man.... it really is.
@basbarthen
@basbarthen Жыл бұрын
Wat een gaaf ding! En nog duurzaam ook👍
@Greebstreebling
@Greebstreebling Жыл бұрын
Thats a great device you have made. It reminds me of the 'old days' of Massey Ferguson tractors where the PTO shaft was exposed on connection to powered accessories. So I would suggest a nice safety enhancement would be to enclose the shaft. Happy bowl making - my lathe is a Coronet Major circa 1960, made in Derby U.K. :) :)
@TdotRob
@TdotRob 2 жыл бұрын
I just LOVE the Mastodon! You guys did an amazing job with the design and build. Thank you for sharing that with us. Looking forward to updates from time to time on how it works out.
@northernhumidor5615
@northernhumidor5615 Жыл бұрын
Stellar idea!
@Stable_Studio
@Stable_Studio 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Ronald. Just been chatting to Glyn and he mentioned your Channel I have subbed Looking forward to watching your back catalogue
@ValioMadre7
@ValioMadre7 2 жыл бұрын
I'm headed to Harbor Freight to buy one of these babies. Thanks for sharing.
@MichalisCholevas
@MichalisCholevas 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Ronald, both for the machine and these videos, keep them coming please! I will never forget the courses with you and the great vibe of your shop, you opened a new world for me!
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Michalis, great to hear from you! Thanks for the kind words. One day we will be turning together somewhere in Greece! Grtz
@dthewitt
@dthewitt 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I'm impressed Ronald! good on you 👍
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan! Maybe we should have called the machine MAX 4! :-)
@flaconoil8015
@flaconoil8015 Жыл бұрын
And wood saver ! a good piece saved for other makings !
@junebrooks665
@junebrooks665 Жыл бұрын
great video again
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne Жыл бұрын
Thank you June!
@markb8954
@markb8954 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait Ron!
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Me too! :-)
@emgiwoodworks
@emgiwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Je had het er al over toen ik mijn OneWay kwam afhalen. Dat ding is inderdaad vet! 😎 Bij mij in de schuur zou ie niet passen en ik heb er ook geen emplooij voor maar ik snap waarom jij zoiets wil. Ziet er stevig uit dus gaat vast heel lang mee!
@MehmetBoysal
@MehmetBoysal 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive, simply brilliant. Well done Ron.
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ray!
@woutersmith7616
@woutersmith7616 Жыл бұрын
Excellent😀👍
@TomOpEigenHoutje
@TomOpEigenHoutje 2 жыл бұрын
Wicked piece off kit u 2 build enjoy
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Tnx Tom!
@huigkersbergen5555
@huigkersbergen5555 2 жыл бұрын
Hallo Ronald, dat gaat fantastisch, dat wordt binnen lopen. Groeten huig kersbergen
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Naar binnen lopen voor koffie bedoel je zeker! :-)
@JonasDieltiens
@JonasDieltiens 2 жыл бұрын
Machtige machine! 😁
@johnnorris1227
@johnnorris1227 Жыл бұрын
Not only are you saving a ton of time using that coring machine but also greatly extending the life of your lathes motor and other components like bearings, etc. by not coring on it which is right up there with the most demanding tasks one can perform on a wood lathe.
@zaenalarifin-fw1nf
@zaenalarifin-fw1nf 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic
@doorgedraaid399
@doorgedraaid399 2 жыл бұрын
Mooie werk ! Knap gebouwd !
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Dank je wel!
@bgpappy30
@bgpappy30 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I freaking love that toy!!! I want to try and make one myself. Thank you for sharing your time and sharing your videos.
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Patrick. Good luck making the machine! The knives are the hardest part... :-)
@savewildlife2732
@savewildlife2732 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he can sell his designs to one of lathe companies
@frankvanderwal4571
@frankvanderwal4571 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, Ronald! In the world of bowl turning, this machine needs to be addressed as Sir! What a couple of Hertog Jan beers can yield! Magnificent machine you and Jan created and the revelation of your carbide cutter made me smile. I was wondering how the knife or sharp edge was constructed but I never thought it was this tiny carbide piece. Although I’m not going to opt for this one, it was a pleasure to see it operating. Cheers, __Frank
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Thx Frank! by the way, I prefer white wine as counselor... :-)
@ricksambacht6815
@ricksambacht6815 2 жыл бұрын
Ten eerste gefeliciteerd met je nieuw machine, super ding is dat. Ten tweede, ik hoop nog veel te zien van jullie Ten derde, de video's zijn super, omdat je alles goed uitlegt en niet alleen tegen een camera praat, maar tegen Lien als ik het goed heb. Super tof, bedankt voor het maken van je video's. Grt uit Belgenland...
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Dank voor je aardige reactie Rick! Leuk om te horen! Grtz
@TokyoCraftsman
@TokyoCraftsman 8 ай бұрын
Inspired 🎉
@patricksweeneydesign5632
@patricksweeneydesign5632 Жыл бұрын
So cool, very dutch. Genius
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne Жыл бұрын
Haha Patrick! What made you say: "very dutch"?
@patricksweeneydesign5632
@patricksweeneydesign5632 Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldkanne I thought you were referring to the wrench tool you took out being dutch and being very inventive but i later discovered that the very dutch saying meant to not waste the small bowl blank as it could be sold. It is an amazing machine, congrats on the construction, the only modification i can think of is a guard on the spindle drive, i grew up on a farm and it reminds me of the power drive that is on the back of a tractor and they always scared the pants of me.
@johnmagee4736
@johnmagee4736 2 жыл бұрын
I like your coring machine. Good, practical engineering enhanced by farm experience I think.
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
You can say so yes! 🙂
@365daysofpool
@365daysofpool Жыл бұрын
I love how coring systems give you standard sized bowls. I actually want to do the reverse and make a 'mounder', also to figure out a way to do very small cores to do espresso cups with exact volumetric measurements. Measuring cups, and even reuseable milk cartons, but i am in the USA, so we dont have bagged milk here.
@thomaskahan3922
@thomaskahan3922 Жыл бұрын
I WANT ONE !
@barry.w.christie
@barry.w.christie Жыл бұрын
Fantastic ... the only suggestion I have to make it even better, have the blades on a dovetail type mounting, meaning you lift one knife off and slide the other on ... I'd be chopping trees down just to have a shot of this machine 👍
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne Жыл бұрын
Hi Barry, the blades already have this dovetail type of mounting... 🙂
@barry.w.christie
@barry.w.christie Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldkanne I couldn't really tell how it was mounted in the video 👍 ... it's absolutely awesome machine 😁
@ankodevries4960
@ankodevries4960 2 жыл бұрын
goed gedaan jongens mooie machine
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Dank je wel Anko!
@JustinMurray170fin
@JustinMurray170fin 6 ай бұрын
I will indeed like & subscribe - that's fantastic❣☘
@RubenWoodcraft
@RubenWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool machine Ronald! Put it on a trailer and rent it out for woodturners that happen to cut down a tree 😀
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea! I think i will not do that... :-)
@RubenWoodcraft
@RubenWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldkanne 😁
@hayesrutherford9415
@hayesrutherford9415 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't think there was anyone as crazy as me to build such a machine.!! Yours looks a bit heavier and I only go to 16", but same principle. Mine is powered by a 212cc gasoline motor. In 2020 I converted my knives and made one new one to accept CCGT060204 or CCGT 060202 tips. They use more horse powerer but forging previous cutters was very difficult for me and they would occasionally break. I've also converted 4 sets of oneway knives to the carbide inserts.
@elif.9695
@elif.9695 2 жыл бұрын
Just like the Holland Bowl Mill does it!
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! Allthough this one is not that heavy...
@kc696969
@kc696969 2 жыл бұрын
HBM does have a very heavy and large machine and it takes a lot of maintenance. I've seen it. To large and complicated to duplicate. Especially the cutters. HBM has special cutters that are forged and very very expensive. The folks who run HBM are good folks and have a great product at a good price. I'll buy this machine if it's ever on the market.
@tearemsturnings8750
@tearemsturnings8750 2 жыл бұрын
That's amazing
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
No, it is logical... :-)
@markvanzee1952
@markvanzee1952 2 жыл бұрын
Ha Ronald, puike machine! De truc die ik gebruik om een faceplate eraf te krijgen, is om altijd een rond uitgeknipt papieren velletje tussen de faceplate en de spindel te doen. Zo heb ik nooit last van gruwelijk vastzittende Chucks en faceplates Maar de speciale sleutel is ook prachtig!
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Hoi Mark, Thnx! Leuk weer van je te horen! Het probleem was hier niet om de faceplate eraf te halen, (die zit er namelijk vast op) Maar het hout van de wormschroef af te draaien... Stukkie papier helpt dan niet...
@joachimmader3320
@joachimmader3320 2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid!But ... i am dutch... made my day
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
A german would have split the piece!? :-)
@joachimmader3320
@joachimmader3320 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldkanne Of course, with the left hand and only 2 fingers - after we have conquered the world ;-)
@natanborges5983
@natanborges5983 2 жыл бұрын
Você é muito bom profissional
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
but it is still my hobby also! :-)
@jogorail
@jogorail 2 жыл бұрын
Love that toy!'
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@cpbenjie
@cpbenjie 2 жыл бұрын
Cool
@joliekarno
@joliekarno 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!
@nilsrienmeijer3738
@nilsrienmeijer3738 2 жыл бұрын
Prachtig😄😄
@robohippy
@robohippy 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, very similar set up to what the New Holland Bowl Mills in the US uses. I think their cutter is more of a hook type cutter rather than the replaceable carbide tips. I use Tantung for my cutters, which is similar to Stellite. Love that bending thing your friend uses.
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you're right about the cutters. Their cutters need a lot of maintenance. And i didn't feel like that... 🙂
@amydingler
@amydingler 2 жыл бұрын
Well, this was awesome! I've been looking-over three systems for coring, trying to decide on which one to buy--you didn't help me there ;-) --but I live in Germany now, so perhaps I'll come for a class and see this Mastodon in person! vlg Amy
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome Amy! Would be great to meet! In every bowl course we have a look at the machine...😊
@tkorkunckaya
@tkorkunckaya 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ron, the outer shells would make nice live edge sinks. Somebody would be interested in reusing those i believe.
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the time they end up heating the house or they leave as a planter...😊👍
@MaximMozgot
@MaximMozgot 2 жыл бұрын
Отлично!
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
благодарю вас! (also thanks to Google translate... :-))
@bills9963
@bills9963 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it's been suggested, but maybe something to catch the bowls as they fall. Perhaps a canvas sling?
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill, yes that has been suggested already. Normally we do this with 2 persons and one is taking off the bowl. When I do this alone I take them of myself nowadays...
@MassisPipes
@MassisPipes 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing machine! Great video work too, I love the vibe of it! Only thing I'm wondering: aren't you afraid of cracking a bowl by letting it fall like that? I'd be tempted to put something below the bowl to catch it, even if just an old mattress :P
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Well to be honest, normally somebody takes them off the machine and I can also do that myself...
@gregj2647
@gregj2647 2 жыл бұрын
Great machine but probably not affordable to the average turner. Thanks for the video
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
It costs quite some box indeed, but if you don't count every hour... But the fun I've had and will have is priceless...
@barryirby8609
@barryirby8609 2 жыл бұрын
Great machine, I am Impressed. Check out Holland Bowl Mill, they have been coring for years.
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
I did already long time ago Barry! great machine!
@anhonestman1234
@anhonestman1234 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Ronald. Great machine. Great idea. What wood type do you use often for your bowls and other projects?
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Honestman. I use whatever I can lay my hands on. But mostly avoid needle leaved trees... I like walnut and ash...
@HodgePodgeWoodWorks
@HodgePodgeWoodWorks Жыл бұрын
Amazing machine Ronald. What's the chances of getting one shipped to Texas by Christmas? 😉
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne Жыл бұрын
Below zero...🤣
@Cancun771
@Cancun771 Жыл бұрын
The smallest part that you call "waste material", I should be glad to take them off your hands free of charge!
@glenncurtis6037
@glenncurtis6037 5 ай бұрын
Well.....I'm Dutch. 😀😜
@brucekiefer2209
@brucekiefer2209 18 күн бұрын
WOW ! How long did it take to engineer and build ?
@kc696969
@kc696969 2 жыл бұрын
Ron. Do you plan to make this machine for sale? I'm interested. I've been coring with three systems for years and have made thousands of bowls, but I've done it the hard way. KC
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Hey KC, we build the machine for ourselves. Not for sale. Just to have fun....
@kc696969
@kc696969 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldkanne Ron. You're killing me. 10 years I've been coring with the hard manual tools. I spend so much time doing the coring, it takes away from the finishing which is what I like the most. Also, since I make a living making bowls, it sure would be nice creating inventory faster. If I can convince you to change your mind let me know. Or, if you would sell a set of plans I would be happy with that. thanks. KC
@phillgoodall8838
@phillgoodall8838 2 жыл бұрын
Talk about "save the trees, save the Planet"! That gadget's gotta be worth serious carbon credits ay. Bravo!! "... but,...well I'm Dutsch". LOL.
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil, for reassurance... i only buy blown down and dead trees from around here... :-)
@Navi26er
@Navi26er 2 жыл бұрын
Great work. Is the coring part of the courses you offer- or is there a chance to buy some cored blanks? Kind regards from Germany. Sebastian Feierabend
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sebastian, Coring is a part of the Bowl Course. But than we are using the easy core from Oneway and the Woodcut sytem. I hope soon to be able to sell cored bowls... Grtz
@paulsmeets5101
@paulsmeets5101 2 жыл бұрын
Waar Belgisch bier toe leiden kan ! What Belgian beer can lead to ;-)
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
haha Paul! Hertog Jan is toch Nederlands bier!? (ik vind overigens de meeste Belgische biertjes lekkerder hoor!)
@paulsmeets5101
@paulsmeets5101 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldkanne en daarom staat daar een heel krat (bak in 't Vlaams) Westmalle op de achtergrond in Jan's werkplaats ;-)
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulsmeets5101 nee joh... da's de vrieskist!
@savewildlife2732
@savewildlife2732 2 жыл бұрын
I love to bring you a trailer full of pecan, mesquite, ash, and sycamore burl and croch logs , maybe we can barter for some of bowl blanks ya are able to get from logs I bring you
@djsamslade
@djsamslade 10 ай бұрын
May I offer you a cold beer? 😉
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 10 ай бұрын
Yes, you always may do that! 🙂
@user-pe3sp3vg5c
@user-pe3sp3vg5c 6 ай бұрын
What did that machine cost to build?
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 4 ай бұрын
Well, i was so happy that i just forgot that... but if you also count the hours it is a bloody expensive machine... if you count the fun we had making it, it is priceless...
@Mythos24ER
@Mythos24ER 2 жыл бұрын
A little bit crazy 😅
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
And proud of it! :-)
@savewildlife2732
@savewildlife2732 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you located?
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
The Netherlands...
@greenfroggaming736
@greenfroggaming736 2 жыл бұрын
These are common machines that can be found in the uk for around £1500 been using mine for 4 years 👌
@ronaldkanne
@ronaldkanne 2 жыл бұрын
You make me curious! Can you share a link to these machines? I can hardly imagion...
@r5yamaha
@r5yamaha Жыл бұрын
Have patented your toy? See the patented for $$ each time the buyer sells the machine.
@kc696969
@kc696969 2 жыл бұрын
You're killing me. 10 years I've been coring with the hard manual tools. I spend so much time doing the coring, it takes away from the finishing which is what I like the most. Also, since I make a living making bowls, it sure would be nice creating inventory faster. If I can convince you to change your mind let me know. Or, if you would sell a set of plans I would be happy with that. thanks. KC
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