NXIVM Whistleblower with Sarah Edmondson Part 1 | Navigating Narcissism with Dr. Ramani

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Sarah Edmondson was a young actress pursuing a career in film and television when she hit a low point and was hoping to find a new purpose in life. She ran into renowned filmmaker, Mark Vicente, who spoke to her about NXIVM and eventually brought her into the organization. There she started following Keith Raniere and Nancy Salzman's mission. They encouraged Sarah to give her all. In part 1 of 2, we learn about how NXIVM's leadership undermined its followers and groomed them in such a conniving way that no one knew what was happening to them. Sarah grew close to many members of the organization - which later turned out to be a cult and even rose up in leadership. Listen to how Sarah's journey and newfound community helped her find a new meaning in life.
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Sarah is a working actor and artist. She is known for her role in NXIVM, which initially intrigued her with its promise to provide the tools and insight she needed to reach her potential. It all came into focus when she accepted an invitation to join DOS, a “secret sisterhood” within NXIVM. It was a decision that resulted in a front-page bombshell in the New York Times featuring her story as a woman on a mission to shut NXIVM down.
Sarah published Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult that Bound My Life. Sarah’s journey as a whistleblower has also been featured in “The Vow”, the critically acclaimed HBO documentary series.
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@gwenjohn8673 10 ай бұрын

I escaped a cult called Antioch in Annapolis, Md. there was child abuse spousal abuse and I got out with my kids. Hardest thing I ever went through. I lose 30 k in attorneys fees but I got my kids out. It's so triggering to even think about what might have been. I'm looking for other survivors to connect with for support

@karenp2903 Жыл бұрын

I withdrew from what I thought was a cult in my small town. It was a Buddhist meditation group which I joined to strengthen my meditation practice. Over time more and more of my time was required by the group. It was insidious how we were drawn in. At one point we were told there was a weekly class coming up, ostensibly to study a Buddhist book. After committing to a three month period, we were given a schedule which included a weekend retreat every month. Ok, I felt I had already made a commitment so I went along. It turned out the retreats were glorified group therapy. The leader was a very intelligent who was a self appointed spiritual leader who had taken many classes about self improvement. She was not a licensed therapist. We were required to do a lot of writing exercises about ourselves which we were required to read to the group. Private things that were revealed in our writing were brought up often during the retreat. At one point I became aware that I had never asked for therapy nor had I given permission for group therapy. After a year and a half, the control became too much and I just quit cold turkey. Immediately, the leader started sending group emails including myself. They were demeaning in a subtle way and meant to make me feel guilty for quitting. I felt I had escaped a cult after quitting and looked for more information online. I wasn’t able to find much and find this discussion very helpful. I didn’t realize it wasn’t right until I had left.

@danielaraba4255 Жыл бұрын

I've been there before. Back In my University days. I joined a religious group that encouraged us to be open and sincere to them about our personal struggles. I opened up and then realized that it could be weaponized and used for character assassination. I just had to leave. I encountered another one that exhibits almost all the narcissistic traits including the smear campaign online plus threats to destroy my finances and social life. People need to be aware of this traits In group relationships and avoid such groups.

@wandarask8444 Жыл бұрын

There's a saying that we should give them the benefit of the doubt I've learnt that saying is a load of crap people need to earn my trust . I know a lot of people, do community groups blah blah and blah, there's not many I do, trust I know the ones I do there the best . All the best.

@KVMerry Жыл бұрын

Can you share where this was? Were they affiliated with a book or group? Thanks.

@basketballfan5763 11 ай бұрын

Thank Jesus you got out ...just make sure you never go back and get those emails blocked and report them to Google❤

@chiyerano Жыл бұрын

All cults are narcissistic relationships but not all narcissistic relationships are cults.

@user-nk9zo8wj9x 9 ай бұрын

Dr. Ramani: as you say: "Relationship with organization." Thats the key word for us who are abused in "churches"/cult like. When your realtionship with God became relationship with organization and "pastor/apostle" as a leader, its a road to distraction. People have flaws, like everyone of us. To depend on some human to give you value is very, very dangerous. My little observation from church folks. I am out 25 years from that place, but posion is still in the system - mind, feeling, decisions, etc. 25 yaers after leaving that place ...

@jahmasin Жыл бұрын

❤ Dr. Ramani I appreciate you so much. I had 2 narcissistic parents and husband AND part of a high control religion (actually a corporation posing as a religion). I am free from all of them. You help so much with the clarity. I appreciate your manner, demeanor and style. I wish you every success.❤

@danielaraba4255 Жыл бұрын

I don't know why this podcast doesn't have enough viewership. I understand it well because I have had a drink of such experience. I Dr . I ♥️ the podcasts more than the videos. Please keep it up and thanks a million for the knowledge

@Krassiana Жыл бұрын

It’s new. Give it time. It doesn’t start at million subscribers from day one

@mariapilarme 11 ай бұрын

I would take this woman with reservations, I heard her before and she didn’t know what she was talking about. Here you are, be critical for what you hear or you are going to fall in the next cult. You don’t have to believe everything.

@ivanasimic2072 7 ай бұрын

I have flashbacks just to listening Sarah experience... I remeber when one women from that word of faith "church" is buying me a ticket for group traveling on the sea side of my country saying to me that I am GOOD SOIL to saw a money or whatever...what a fking hook, she was something like self anointed "mentor" to me...once, she send me to copy answers for bible school, I was so honoured for that kind of responsibility to not see the answers of tests for bible school... they are hooking and cooking me for long time, about 4 years of brainwashing... 25years later I still struggle and praying for someone like dr Ramani is to help me...here in Croatia therapists have no idea what is this...we are weirdos to them

@jiecobb8728 Жыл бұрын

Brave Sarah , thank you for standing up and fighting!

@gtaylor6937 Жыл бұрын

So much of this sounds like what happens to you in Scientology. The "technology" is designed to get you to override all of your emotions, which puts your intuition and powers of discernment on ice. Very powerful, coercive tool. Once they get you to relinquish this, they have you.

@codirennke1109 Жыл бұрын

He stole a ton of stuff from scientology.

@Goddybag4Lee Жыл бұрын

Yep he stole a lot. Almost like a fan-boy.

@ivanasimic2072 9 ай бұрын

I came from so called word of faith "church" which is a cult...same pattern... its so good to listen someone who was not in the "church", but its a same pattern you can see clearly..thanks for this

@NettyB 7 ай бұрын

Me too! It was so damaging to me as a Christian. Glad that you got out as well

@ivanasimic2072 7 ай бұрын

@@NettyBit is "Christian hamas" terrorist

@ivanasimic2072 7 ай бұрын

@@NettyB its not over yet..that devil so called pastor and apostle is sueing me 5 years ago for "slander" but I won, thank God! Its not over yet, they are monsters who want to destroy former members who dare to talk about them, disgusting

@theirishfairy6281 Жыл бұрын

Excellent content! Keep it coming ☘️🌈

@ivanasimic2072 7 ай бұрын

Facebook do not allow to share this video. Unbelievable

@jades3654 Жыл бұрын

One thing that jumped out at me was you guys mentioning that he was a computer nerd, and theaster slave thing. Besides the obvious, master slave relationship is also a computer programing term. It is a model of communication for hardware devices where one device has a unidirectional control over one or more devices. (It copied and pasted bold. Idk why.) But it seems that this so-called genius structured this cult loosely on basic computer programming terminology and framework. He only seems like a genius because our culture perpetuates the mith that only geniuses can learn computer programming , or be good at computers.

@126644 8 ай бұрын

Learning how to program is actually very easy. You just have to put in the time and effort

@leslieread556 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for a great interview. Cultish controls - seen *and* unseen especially at the hands of a siddha master - are entirely real. Regarding blackmail… the deliberate separation of my family was the blackmail I endured. This separation ensured that the lies of my former spiritual teachers would never become public knowledge. My former teachers have been highly covered-for by the many, including currently acting teachers, in the non-dual space. -Leslie Read Integrityintruth 🙏❤️🔥

@cchronis8864 Жыл бұрын

Honestly when I heard Jada Smith at the end I was so turned off. She made their relationship public and sadly Will goes right along with it. She definitely has narcissistic traits. Seems a little hypocritical. Scratching my head on this one. Only God knows her heart but actions speak volumes.

@melliecrann-gaoth4789 4 ай бұрын

Yes and yes

@pilarangel3535 Жыл бұрын

Excellent content❤🎉

@foxibot Жыл бұрын

Keith would have tried to sleep with Sara if he could have gotten her and Nippy more submissive. I wish though Nippy would have beat the crap out of him, because he definitely wanted Sara as one of his slaves.

@user-nk9zo8wj9x 9 ай бұрын

Its all about money, power and control. Sick to the core

@leilagomulka5690 Жыл бұрын

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@kellyyork3898 Жыл бұрын

I’m from the SE. Why didn’t some of these women get a gun or baseball bat and go after him? Don’t they have brothers or uncles with trucks? This guy wouldn’t last 5 mins. in the South before someone took him out.

@callanrose Жыл бұрын

can’t find part 2 edit: found it on apple podcasts!

@onetime7408 Жыл бұрын

This podcast only just popped up in my feed...the word narcissism put me off at first -I thought it would only focus on that subject...but the interviews are excellent.

@user-mf7ll4nm4n 6 ай бұрын

There are so many 'groups' weather they ate volunteer, corporate etc will bring you down Please take care

@etcwhatever 7 ай бұрын

That supressive terms comes from scientology! It might be worthy to investigate how both cults are related

@onlyonce1707 11 ай бұрын

An important interview but difficult to follow, A lot of confusing details in the story.

@steelcom5976 Ай бұрын

My first indicator was when I saw the DOS motto. If someone was part of an august organization, why would that organization have a motto that was pseudo-Latin? Take a look: *Dominus Obsequious Sororium* is pure rubbish. Analysis: *Obsequious* is an English adjective that happens to have a "-us" ending, and is easy to spot because there is no occasion in Latin that would have an "-ious" combination, and *Sororium* with the "-ium" case ending is incorrect for the feminine plural 3º declension, admittedly harder to catch. Here's what it should have been: *Dominus Obesquiosarum Sororum* - Lord of the Obsequious Sisters.

@joyjones_actor Ай бұрын

Thanks for this reminder of the correct Latin! I only remember vestiges of 4 years of high school Latin (although it’s been a real help to learning French) but when the story of this cult first came out, many classical scholars were online clowning on the trash/garbled Latin of DOS.

@elvan5922 4 ай бұрын

I know they are talking about narcissistic relationships but there is something huge missing what which info this lady sharing about this cult. And either she was not aware of she is intentionally misleading.

@gigiarmany4332 5 ай бұрын

the fast talking & word salad is a bit off putting

@brandyandcream2 Жыл бұрын

But this woman recruited thousands of people to the cult and mlm scheme and made a lot of money doing it. She only decided to blow the whistle when the leader tried to break up her marriage (so only when it negatively affected her directly). But refuses to accept any responsibility for her part in this.

@No-xs1no Жыл бұрын

And Dr ramani enables these perpetrators. What does that say about her?

@jameseglavin4 Жыл бұрын

I translated your comment into English for you: “I don’t understand how cults or high-control techniques work.” Just thought I’d help 😊

@brandyandcream2 Жыл бұрын

@@jameseglavin4 I understand how they work. But you also have to learn how to tell the victims from the perpetrators. In our society, we act like white women women are only ever victims. When in Reality sometimes they are the perpetrators. Was Ghislaine Maxwell a victim of high control techniques too?