I maintain that the best possible version of the Obi-Wan show would not have had Obi-Wan and Vader meet at all. Let their encounter on the Death Star be their first real meeting since Mustafar and skip all this nonsense. Let Obi-Wan see Vader's aftermath and go through the emotional journey of finding out Vader's still alive, then blaming himself for Vader's actions because of his perceived failures, then resolving to help fight the inquisition before returning to his duty protecting Luke. Let Obi-Wan lose, almost get detected, and use all of his cunning to escape. Set up a broken hermit in the desert waiting for Luke to be old enough to fix his mistakes. Leave him with a drop of hope that by taking out an inquisitor or two, he's making things easier for the few Jedi who survived. But he'll never know if he's having that impact or not. Let it be introspective, thoughtful, and emotional. That sounds much better than what Kenobi turned out to be.

I think at the same time of this reva was chasing Luke and his aunt and uncle. For me there was no tension this entire episode since the only character that could possibly die was reva and I didn’t care if she died or not.

The problem with this entire series is that yes, we all knew there would be a giant duel between darth and obi-wan. Despite there being zero stakes because neither them Or leia for that matter can die. Making obi just decide to leave bc he’s doesn’t want to kill dath vader. There could have been a more believable end to the fight that isn’t just “oh noes i dont want to kill the person i said i would kill bc im sad bc hes my friend”. I honestly would have accepted the snow speeder to deus ex machina themselves out of nowhere causing darth to retreat over this because that would at least not kill the entire purpose of the show.

I take so many issues to how Vader's fighting style has been choreographed in this god-awful show, but also the Sc.38 Reimagined fan film. While Vader's chosen lightsaber form is fundamentally still the Djem So variant of Form V, he layered it by taking elements from all the other lightsaber forms, and most of all, Vader in the majority of comics and novels is portrayed as taking a deceptively defensive stance, to make the opponents overextend while studying and taunting them, occasionally pelting them with the Force, going fully aggressive only when the opponent is relentless or truly gets to him (this was more likely earlier in his career, much less by the time of the OT). Sc.38 Reimagined makes the mistake of portraying him as a raging bull, while this show just makes him utterly inconsistent : one moment he's holding the saber with one hand as if it's just a joke but still fights aggressively, then with both as if he's under pressure. He uses the Force to put out a fire and ragdoll Obi Wan, but then can't put it out again. Same for Obi Wan. He's meant to be the master of Soresu, Form III, which is almost purely defense oriented. Instead, they make him all flamboyant and aggressive. Just dumb spectacle with no meaning, no rhyme or reason, no visual storytelling about these characters through their tactics or fighting style. Just consume and get excited because fanservice.

Why did the show with the biggest characters in Star Wars look, feel and sound like a fan film. ROTS, a movie thats over 15 years old looks way better and sure it had a bigger budget but thats another issue, why did they under fund this show so much. Disney are so out of touch with this sort of thing, they give Andor, a show about a side character from Rogue One, a better budget and better direction aswell as writers. I was so excited when this show was announced, Vader and Obi-Wan, 2 of the biggest and most popular characters having a show solely based on them or so we thought until we got a welfare Trilla character in Reva and be expected to be invested in her in a show we are watching to see more of Obi-wan and Vader. Hugely disappointed when I watched it and saw how badly they butchered this show. Good video, You deserve way more views and subs.

Am I the only one who thinks that thinking of Leia should not have given Obi-Wan a power boost? Light siders users have emotions and attachments sure, but the way they wield the force is by meticulously controlling their emotions so those emotions cannot interfere with their ability to use the Force, because light siders draw their power from balance, not passion. Dark siders draw their power from strong emotions. Therefore Obi-Wan thinking of Leia should weaken him, not strengthen him. We even saw Maul use this to advantage when he had his first rematch with Obi-Wan during the Clone Wars. He repeatedly taunted Obi-Wan about killing Qui-Gon, and Obi-Wan got visibly enraged, and Maul promptly beat his ass. Maul even said "Your rage has unbalanced you." Whereas in their final fight, Maul tries to taunt Obi-Wan to no effect. Obi-Wan learned from his mistake and remained calm and balanced, which gave him a decisive victory.

The prequels have many flaws, but at least the lightsaber fights were impressive.

Screw this series. Vader orders the entire ship to turn around for Obi-Wan, letting the rebels go, (instead of using a magnetic beam, or sending tie-fighters, or just keep firing...)... but ends up getting into his shuttle and flying after it himself , thus missing out on the rebels for no reason at all. Obi-Wan trusts Leia to some random rogue who has already seeded his transmitter... The duel with Vader is miserable. They wave their swords like baseball bats in episode 9, and the Force has generally turned into an anime - they crush rocks and make craters in the ground, but they can’t break each other’s bones in the same way ... they can withstand the blows of multi-ton boulders ... Obi-Wan, without jokes, becomes a god thanks to the power of friendship and lifts weight much more than Yoda ... at some point he hits Vader with the HILT of the sword ... cuts his back, but that doesn’t paralyse him ... and most importantly, he doesn’t finish him off for the second time, although he himself said his friend is dead... Vader does not call the cruiser to shoot down Obi-Wan's ship, but it turns out that he has a hyperdrive, which makes the whole last episode even more pointless, since he and Leia could fly to Alderaan on it all this time already at the end of episode 4 .. . Owen and Beru do not set any traps for Reva in the doors, they only shoot her one at the time, do not catch up with her on a speeder, do not evacuate on the speeder, do not call the local police, the same Jabba the Hutt (with the promise of money), and Luke is advised to run on foot into the desert, to the Tuskens... Apparently Vader just left Reva a ship…Reva with a hole in her HEART can easily fight, run and carry weights ... And finally, she, who cuts off the hands of all those who disagree, throws knives at people, kills everyone in her path, hunts the Jedi trying to kill them, tortures a 10-year-old child , suddenly cannot kill Luke, because he sees himself in him (but not in Leah) ... by the way, why? Does she know he's Vader's son? How? And Obi-Wan forgives her, although he saw what she was doing and Tala died because of her... Now the whole Empire knows that Bail Organa communicates with Obi-Wan, they are looking for him all over the galaxy, but at the same time Obi-Wan quietly flies to Alderaan to chat with Leia... Obi-Wan communicates with Luke, although Owen told him in A New Hope that he died at the same time as his father ... Qui-gon, it turns out, can appear without any meditation, but the whole series did not do this ... As a result - Obi-Wan, Owen, Beru, Bale failed their missions to protect children, and they are only alive because the Empire and Vader are even more incompetent, and Reva suddenly became kind ... and now we are waiting for a series about her ... Thank you Disney, now you've ruined every single character in the original trilogy. Star Wars is long dead, and there's no more room for nails in the coffin.

It's like the directors had selective memory loss when it comes to Star Destroyers LMAO.

Viewers: man KZfaq recommendations are being boring lately Kenobi Clips: *Hello There!*

The five-seconds fight from Tales of The Jedi between Ahsoka and the inquisitor had more tension than this.

You have Ewan McGregor’s Obi-Wan and Hayden’s Darth Vader. You have 3 movies and a full animated show of history between them to work with and build off of. How do you fail so miserably? You are STAR WARS for God’s sake. You can hire the best writers in human history, the best directors, etc. Everyone dreams of working on this franchise. I truly don’t understand how Disney has completely failed in virtually everything they’ve tried since acquiring SW.

About the obi wan not killing vader thing, i think he didnt know darth vader was anakin until then, and when he realized it was just too hard for him to take.

I’m still baffled how legitimate fans cannot see how bad this series is

Darth Vader: “I am what you made me.” Also Darth Vader: “You didn’t kill Anakin, I did.”

In my rewrite, after Vader says he killed anakin, Obi wan goes in for the kill but gets stopped by some purge troopers and is forced to flee

AMAZING! As always! Love your content!!!

They truly ruined this show... It had potential but they clearly didn't put the effort into it. Thank you so much for your insight on this show!!

The back to back thing was a reference to the training flash back in the show

Why do the lightsabers bounce off of things in this show? Obi-wan's lightsaber bounces off the stormtrooper armor in ep 4. In this fight Vader's lightsaber bounces off of rocks and the ground multiple times. Why?

The back to back fighting may be a know to their years for fighting together.Their subconscious and muscle memory as well as teir strikes, andmovements even the force naturally guides them to their defense position back to back like in the clone wars.

5:09 I wouldn't say that Vader's lightsaber being at head level in the next frame is a bad thing, it's pretty common for action scenes to set back a fist or blade by a few inches in order for a blow to feel even more powerful. The only problem really is that Obi-Wan isn't in the same position, which ruins the whole illusion of having a stronger blow since it distracts the viewers from it. Every Frame Is a Painting covers the concept in his "Jackie Chan - How to Do Action Comedy" video and he explains it far better than I did, so if any of that sounds interesting then I'd check it out.

I didn't notice any of the flaws you pointed out in the episode because at this point of the show I was just skipping most of it to see if something interesting finally happens

BATTLE OF HELMS DEEEP!!! YEESSSSS

lol Earth-bending, loved the Avatar clips. Great work Master Samwise, you made excellent points once again. Agreed, Obi-wan ending the fight right there felt off the more I think on it.

This fight would be way cooler if they were trying to hit each other, and not just aiming for the opponent’s lightsaber. Once you notice it, it’s blatantly obvious. And it really pulls me out of it. When the characters are actually trying to hurt each other (instead of pretending to try), it makes the fight a lot more “realistic” and intense.

Avatar also does the back to back swordfight with Jet and Zuko

Who and how do i follow who did this edit..i want to see the full finish when he releases this!

Overall I hate the show but Obi Wan not killing Vader despite saying he would could be referenced to what Vader said with his “same weakness” he couldn’t kill him then and he can’t kill him now. Although they probably didn’t think of it that way and I’m just trying to cope with the horrible story

The star destroyer may just be on the other side of the planet, I don't see any particular problems with this.

I'm pretty sure the weakness vader refers to is the light side

The Vader in this series felt a lot like comic Vader

I like both fights, but I would rather see the Battle of Helm's Deep!

How is it that only by defeating your master in a light sabre duel the padawan becomes a Jedi Master. Then all of Yoda's students probably beat him or otherwise remained a Padawan their entire lives. Actually the duel was clearly won by Anakin when obi Wan is disarmed, Anakin retreats and does not go for the Kill, then obi wan grabs the opportunity and wins the fight. The story is full of inconsistency as you have pointed out,

All of the suggested fight scenes, would make for a,azings videos

You missed so much and focused on all the wrong stuff. You could do this with anything sci-fi or anything at all. Wait it’s not realistic?

I didnt watch the series as a whole, im not going to spend a lot of energy in attempt to defend disney star wars. But some of the stuff you complained about seems forced. Vader is angry. Seething. Fully steeped in pure rage and hatred. How many angry people do you know that have shakesperian dialogue? Vader seems excited at the prospect of obi wans strength returning because he wants to earn the victory. But the 'weakness that remains' refers to the jedi way. Vader knows that obi wan is wise and masterful, but has always refused to use strength for strengths sake; no matter the stakes. Obi wan giving him a prolonged assault, with the force no less, is his way to tell vader that he is very wrong about his assumptions and strategy. Obi wan will 'do what he must' exactly as he said before the duel. Obi wan had an advantage and siezed it with authority, leaving vader battered and beaten by his hand, again. It might not be good, but it does make some sense, i thought. Edit: he didnt do what he must, obviously, he walked away. Because hes struck with emotion. Grief. Part of that is denial. He doesnt want to believe something like 'vader killed anakin' he wants to believe anakin is suppressed by vader. It still makes sense. What could vader go on to do? Destroy the jedi? He already did. The ones left are in hiding, may as well be dead. Vader hunts husks of the jedi way, as a husk of a jedi.

The dialogue in this show was atrocious. Actually, everything in this show was atrocious. The writers and directors should be ashamed of themselves. They did not care at all.

Just to be clear. Is it an actual fact that Rogue 1 is the best film from new school star wars ? (At least in my opinion it is) If that is at least 60% true, then why not to make a breakdown of some fight/story sequences in it ?

0:11 well at least ATLA was consistent LMFAO

A few things, one vader loosing because he got smashed in the chest is vader defeat 101 in most video games and comics since without that vader cant control his suit. The second is that obi probably wanted to kill anakin to not have to bring himself and anakin peace, once vader says that he killed anakin obi stops just caring and keaves, justifying why ben cared litle about vader in the og

You gonna breakdown boba fett show?? Lol

Ugh, I forgot how misandrist Avatar:TLA was. That has to be the most sexist against men show I've ever seen. I don't know how you can like a show that literally hates you just for being.

I hate this show so much

It was an awesome battle, but I hated the bits when the camera zoomed out.

Whine whine whine whine. I bet you could find a snarky criticism to somebody handing you a billion dollars or saving puppies. .

I feel like Obi-Wan and Vader still should have met, but have Vader completely dominating the fight, with Obi-Wan only defending, but narrowly escaping using some geological advantage

I personally really love this show but there is some annoying parts of their fight that I just can't stand.

Ok, its not a bad duel, its a good duel. Its just not what it was meant to be. Also the best duel has to be the flashback duel its just perfect for what it was supposed to be. This was a good duel but lacked the final push it needed to be epic. It had to be in mustafar or somewhere WITH FREAKING LIGHT

The only reason the show is not really hated is because Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen was back

I actually really hate that Vader fights one handed. He fights Kenobi two handed in the original and only fights one handed against Luke when he's toying. I would expect Vader to come in not underestimating Obi-Wan after Mustafar and take no risks

Not enough... You still have missed the Reva chasing Luke moment- Nah, you lost enough brain cells with this. Time you move on to better series/movies to show em how good action sequences are done.