In Defense of Insatiable

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Olivia Kathryn

Olivia Kathryn

5 жыл бұрын

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Intro: "All I Need" by LAKEY INSPIRED
Outro: "On My Own (b-sides)" by Tessa Violet

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@irini03
@irini03 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly liked the show, I see why is problematic and stuff but it was funny. I don’t think it was mean to be serious, I think it was clearly a satire and I thought it was funny how every episode had a complete twist form the previous. I’ve watched other videos on the show and all they do is watch the FIRST episode which is stupid because they show is literally so so different in almost every episode...
@hannahwyatt4830
@hannahwyatt4830 5 жыл бұрын
People say it's "Fat shaming" but that literally is so so wrong. The whole meaning of the show is "Skinny isn't magic" and that "Being skinny doesnt mean shit if your ugly on the inside" and I love that message
@yukiandkanamekuran
@yukiandkanamekuran 4 жыл бұрын
it really is a dark humor type show, so I don't expect it to be "unproblematic" in that regard because it is supposed to be dark humor.
@Czena
@Czena 4 жыл бұрын
Rini Giam i agree I only watched insatiable because everyone hated it but I actually found it pretty good.
@liswane
@liswane 3 жыл бұрын
@@yukiandkanamekuran what dark humor tho? there's literally a whole scene for an event just to set up a bunch of fart jokes that weren't funny. The show may not be as "problematic" as twitter makes it out to be, but my god is it full of shitty writing. The sad part is that the plot was so interesting, but the execution butchered it.
@mekhifinn8888
@mekhifinn8888 2 жыл бұрын
i know it is kinda randomly asking but do anyone know a good site to watch new movies online?
@courtneyh7842
@courtneyh7842 5 жыл бұрын
I love this show! And I’m a plus size girl and it actually HELPED me feel a little better about myself because ✨skinny isn’t magic ✨
@pure_angel_girl
@pure_angel_girl 5 жыл бұрын
ok can i just say, if that's you in your pfp you are so cute!
@anneklj
@anneklj 4 жыл бұрын
Same!
@BornNoU
@BornNoU 4 жыл бұрын
Same here!! It felt like the show smacked me upside the head and said “skinny people aren’t problem-free just because they’re thin”
@kiaraleann1637
@kiaraleann1637 4 жыл бұрын
Same girl!!
@shana9650
@shana9650 3 жыл бұрын
@@pure_angel_girl absoulty right dude she is so cute no need go slim plz
@maybetomorrrow
@maybetomorrrow 5 жыл бұрын
One of the most inclusive shows ever is being hated for not being inclusive enough... okay
@rainbowandre9580
@rainbowandre9580 4 жыл бұрын
Yess
@tarynbuskard1738
@tarynbuskard1738 3 жыл бұрын
Inclusivity isn’t necessarily quality representation. Glee is deeply diverse and highly problematic, to be honest the show reminds me a lot of Glee where I understood why people liked it but still felt it was deserving of its criticism.
@chillstudy8223
@chillstudy8223 3 жыл бұрын
@@tarynbuskard1738 how was it deserving of critiscm?
@LmaoMoni
@LmaoMoni 2 жыл бұрын
Literally 60% of the cast is chaotic bisexuals but people get mad like this is the bi representation I wanted
@Blkstarz
@Blkstarz Жыл бұрын
Having rep doesn’t mean it’s good lol
@ScottTeresi
@ScottTeresi 5 жыл бұрын
Amen. The “problematic” and “cancel culture” that’s risen in the last few years really bothers me because I don’t think anything good or positive can come from absolutism. Life is all nuance and if we strip nuance out of our evaluation of culture/pop culture then how will we apply to our own lives? It’s kinda maddening and was happy to hear your thoughts on it. All that said, The White Album and The Empire Strikes Back are perfect creations.
@dansblackteeshirt2571
@dansblackteeshirt2571 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. I hate twitter so much because of cancel culture, and most of the time people over react!!!!
@blueberrysk1es
@blueberrysk1es 5 жыл бұрын
Scott Teresi 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@mattsaracen7
@mattsaracen7 5 жыл бұрын
I don't hate the show cause its 'problematic', I hate it cause it's all over the place with what it wants to do, half the jokes fall flat and the ED/BED side of it is poorly portrayed
@travelingbenya3305
@travelingbenya3305 4 жыл бұрын
@Scott Teresi... Absolutism vs. Relativism = truth vs. lies... how can I say this? Essentially truth is just as real as lies, but only the truth is true. When someone tells you a lie, that is a real event and if you believe it, it becomes your reality, just like when someone tells you the truth, it is real and if you believe it becomes your reality. But in one scenerio your reality is only real and completely untrue... in the other scenerio your reality is actuality.
@Sarah_Bee21
@Sarah_Bee21 5 жыл бұрын
with the yee yee clip I felt like I was watching a Kurtis Conner video, great way to adress this show
@artstormingishere
@artstormingishere 4 жыл бұрын
Is that good or bad?
@thomasthegoatofsatan2754
@thomasthegoatofsatan2754 4 жыл бұрын
@@artstormingishere Always good
@calmmoon6842
@calmmoon6842 3 жыл бұрын
Yes kurtis is a good boi
@VocaloidMonsterNJ
@VocaloidMonsterNJ 5 жыл бұрын
I watched the entirety of Insatiable and I won't say it's a masterpiece but it doesn't deserve such hate. It deviates from the norm and it's certainly weird but it's alright. The writing could improve but it's alright. But 13 reasons why needs to go.
@fugitive_
@fugitive_ 4 жыл бұрын
I think people love scandal and drama which is why 13rw is still around :/
@lesley-annfenwick
@lesley-annfenwick 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@tiarezavaleta8850
@tiarezavaleta8850 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know it was so hated, it is kind of meh, I have seen worse.
@nicolelarson5239
@nicolelarson5239 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh I’m bi and when you played that scene I started laughing. I understand where this guy is coming from. He’s trying everything to hold on to what he knows. “I can’t be bi because that’s not a thing. I can’t be gay because I live my wife.”
@nidasimsek3227
@nidasimsek3227 3 жыл бұрын
I've been complaining about how Insatiable is highly slept on since the first season, it makes me so sad that such a great show got cancelled just because people were taking it too serious and missed the WHOLE point. Found this video 2 years later but I'm so glad someone said what had to be said!!
@meinenklinke
@meinenklinke 5 жыл бұрын
That binge eating moment (all of them really) actually made me feel really seen. Growing up that part of eating disorders wasn’t really addressed and I didn’t even realize I had an eating disorder. It was really good to see it, honestly. Thanks for the defense!
@trinaq
@trinaq 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for outlining the positives of this show. I didn't think that it was as terrible as everyone was making it out to be. I liked Nonnie's storyline the best, as it explored sexuality in a nuanced way, and how her dad supported her unconditionally.I also liked how they actually stated that Bob Armstrong was bisexual, and not a straight man who was "turned" gay. It's very rare to get that type of representation in modern shows.
@teagansavage3670
@teagansavage3670 5 жыл бұрын
I am so here for all of your 'in defense of' videos
@AlexMeyersVids
@AlexMeyersVids 5 жыл бұрын
Insatiable has all the parts of something great, but I felt the execution was way off. Hopefully in season 2 they take a different approach
@shadypalmtree2989
@shadypalmtree2989 5 жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting to see you here. Though I'd have to disagree with you. I think both the premise and execution were perfect, it's to the time period that it came out it that was wrong. 10 years ago, Insatiable would have been a hit. It's exactly what Olivia said, all these arguments were coming out of left field because it's a time of high sensitivity and extreme pushing for equal representation. Not that equal representation isn't wrong, but it's just simply not something that can occur in every show... but it's ironic because this show had almost everyone in it., and people were still complaining. Imo, the show is great, funny, and actually has a good message, if people stopped just looking at the face value of the show and actually thought about it.
@liswane
@liswane 3 жыл бұрын
@@shadypalmtree2989 the time it came out isn't wrong, it's not like the creators had no idea what the general public thought. And do you really think 10 years ago people would've ever praised a show with a lesbian relationship front and center? No, it would've been criticized just as much, but for other reasons. Also, including minorities in the story doesn't equate to equal representation; just because the show had one trans character that only appears in one episode, as a disposable character, doesn't mean anything. The premise is good and intriguing, but the execution was sloppy at best. The message of "skinny isn't magic" gets drowned out by the fact that patty, the main character, keeps getting away with all the crimes she commits throughout the show. If skinny isn't magic, why is this girl getting away with murder and getting help from a man that only noticed and cared for her because of how pretty she was after losing weight?
@celeste4472
@celeste4472 3 жыл бұрын
You all should watch Sarah Z's Video on instatiable
@celeste4472
@celeste4472 3 жыл бұрын
It isn't created in absolute wrath at least. I agree with her view on it tbh its a great video
@chillstudy8223
@chillstudy8223 3 жыл бұрын
@@liswane she gets away with it because she's phyco.... things such as trans people or disabled people isn't the point of the show. But elements of it are shown briefly so why complain?
@ellaclaudine
@ellaclaudine 5 жыл бұрын
donald chou was the real star of insatiable
@hannahwyatt4830
@hannahwyatt4830 5 жыл бұрын
Yesssss he was king
@sydneymcelwain1414
@sydneymcelwain1414 5 жыл бұрын
Ella Claudine I lowkey ship him with Dixie and I hope in season two she gets a redemption story and becomes a better person and they start dating
@hufflepuffstardust9827
@hufflepuffstardust9827 4 жыл бұрын
Ella Claudine it’s Donald Choi. JS. No hate
@Maddy-ho3xs
@Maddy-ho3xs 5 жыл бұрын
Donald Choi was the REAL star of Insatiable.
@alisongutierrez3062
@alisongutierrez3062 5 жыл бұрын
He was honestly my favorite character
@dreamy220
@dreamy220 5 жыл бұрын
You are the movie critic this world needs! I'm sick of people calling movies/shows "problematic" when they're just representing real situations and problems..
@charityhopkins7977
@charityhopkins7977 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was interesting. The main character is a bad person, but that's pretty much the point. Crazy Ex Girlfriend has a main character who makes a lot of bad choices too, and people love it.
@AvrilFanCarson
@AvrilFanCarson 5 жыл бұрын
That’s because it’s actually funny
@cutienerdgirl
@cutienerdgirl 5 жыл бұрын
@@AvrilFanCarson Humor is subjective, I watched Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and it wasn't really funny.
@AlyssaBrown117
@AlyssaBrown117 5 жыл бұрын
The show just isn't the same without Greg... I'll never love anyone the way I love Santino Fontana
@charityhopkins7977
@charityhopkins7977 5 жыл бұрын
@@AlyssaBrown117 Same but also with this last season, the new Greg is actually fitting bc I can't imagine Santino Fontana's Greg having the same charavter development
@privcraft_
@privcraft_ 5 жыл бұрын
It's slightly different: Crazy Ex- girlfriend's main character is meant to be a bad person and the writers actively and knowingly characterize her as such. However, insatiable's main character is not characterized as bad but as an anti-hero that we should like
@summerstargrrrl
@summerstargrrrl 5 жыл бұрын
Insatiable is honestly a great show. Whenever I hear people hating on it it’s becuase they’ve only seen the trailer and they think it’s fatshaming. They don’t realize that it’s actually about Patty’s struggle with her eating disorder and coming to terms with herself as she is.
@siddiqsmouse5004
@siddiqsmouse5004 4 жыл бұрын
I love nonnie's character because shes the ironic take on the "straight man" archetype and I love it. I love that the adults are just as, and maybe even more, irresponsible than their children. Also Patty is the supervillain of her own story. I love this show because I cant get enough of it. I'm a glutton for insatiable. Wait.
@elliieebit
@elliieebit 5 жыл бұрын
I'm bi. I laughed my ass off at the "Bi is just a stop on the train to gayville" line. There are days I feel that shit in my soul. 😂
@lvely4126
@lvely4126 5 жыл бұрын
Personally, I liked Insatiable. It was enjoyable and Debby's acting is pretty good as well.
@villageidiot7584
@villageidiot7584 5 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad to finally watch a video on Insatiable and not have to defend it and literally explain the fact that it’s all melodrama and kind of obnoxious on purpose. Genuinely I feel so refreshed and rejuvenated just by watching this. Also Donald Choi is amazing and deserves to be protected from the insanity of that world.
@Evarya
@Evarya 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh "it's supposed to be bad" is not a particularly good defense
@villageidiot7584
@villageidiot7584 5 жыл бұрын
Neeners how so? Some of the most beloved things are bad on purpose and they don’t even address issues like this show does. The melodrama and ridiculousness is basically a way to say “hey if you think like this, this is how you look and what others think of you.” Maybe I just didn’t read into it enough though.
@imhyperer-P
@imhyperer-P 4 жыл бұрын
Okay what the heck, I cannot for the life of me see how the clips you showed were transphobic. I'm a trans guy, have been diagnosed with dysphoria consistently for the past 6 years and am currently unable to transition bc broke college student, and watching the changing room scene you showed made me tear up, it was extremely relatable to me and like it did a good job showing dysphoria and that it doesn't just magically go away. Idk people are wild thinking everything is offensive
@rainbowandre9580
@rainbowandre9580 4 жыл бұрын
YES
@LiinnCo
@LiinnCo 5 жыл бұрын
The binging scene was SO HARD to watch. Cried my eyes out. I agree with you, it’s a great show and don’t get why all the hate 🤷🏻‍♀️
@rosalena417
@rosalena417 5 жыл бұрын
They cancelled One Day At A Time. It is actually not worth being cancelled. You should watch it. People are just shocked that a show with such high rating is being cancelled instead of show like insatiable who have worse ratings. I'm not saying its a bad show, the rating are just below average compared to ODAAT.
@trinaq
@trinaq 5 жыл бұрын
Totally, I couldn't believe that they cancelled "One Day at a Time", as although it was primarily a comedy, it wasn't afraid to tackle tough topics like Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, homophobia, emigration, discovering one's sexuality, racism, addition or divorce. It played these topics with all the care and respect they deserved, with little to no melodrama involved.
@camilafradette6384
@camilafradette6384 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a specific reason behind cancelling One Day At A Time?
@mileacn
@mileacn 5 жыл бұрын
ikr it's crazy, odaat is fantastic mannn i'm still mad that they cancelled it
@melodyhaviland9393
@melodyhaviland9393 5 жыл бұрын
ODAAT IS SUCH AN AMAZING SHOW AND ITS SO IMPORTANT
@ratbabe455
@ratbabe455 5 жыл бұрын
i legit cried for two days after they cancelled it, it was my favorite netflix show and i really fucking enjoyed it
@fa-shizzle-a-lizzle7142
@fa-shizzle-a-lizzle7142 5 жыл бұрын
the reason i personally didn’t like the show was simply that the plot was insane ! lmfao I had no idea people were hating on it for those reasons
@iThiink
@iThiink 3 жыл бұрын
I have body dysmorphia, and tend to binge and starve myself, didn't realise what I was doing until I watched this series, for many it's problematic but for alot it's the wake-up call needed.
@dravenvhs
@dravenvhs 5 жыл бұрын
I actually love insatiable and I'm so proud of Debby for her role in it and I love how diverse the show is and literally it's the opposite of fat shaming and Debby herself explained how it's not fat shaming. And also I think literally the only reason people hate Debby is because she *ahem* starred on Disney channel. Wow. I I can't.
@krystyndaniels5212
@krystyndaniels5212 5 жыл бұрын
Lol I'm bisexual and I laughed so hard when that joke came up 😂
@rainbowandre9580
@rainbowandre9580 4 жыл бұрын
Saaaame
@Nirmav_Nirmav
@Nirmav_Nirmav 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like people politicize entertainment way too much from both sides. I just want a well made show or movie. I honestly don't care if there are subtle messages that I should disagree with because of my moral alignments as long as I still have fun watching it.
@cl5334
@cl5334 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched this show but I thought the Bisexuals aren't real thing was really funny because it's soo true. Like, a lot of people, even gays and lesbians, think bisexuality isn't real, it's "just a phase" and all that crap. Boi i saw an article, published by AN ACTUAL NEWSPAPER, about ""heteroflexible"" people and everyone on Twitter was making fun of it because it was basically describing bisexuality and calling it heteroflexibility
@luciamendoza9224
@luciamendoza9224 5 жыл бұрын
They love to call bisexuality "heteroflexible". The reason? Because bi are sometimes with woman and other with men. They just don't conceive the posibility of liking a certain gender even when you're in a relationship with someone of the other gender. It's like they think we should always date both genders at the same time, if not we are not really bisexuals.
@beauswan6531
@beauswan6531 5 жыл бұрын
Heteroflexible is kinda like a more specific version of Bisexual where the person is usually more attracted to the opposite gender than their own
@hannahwyatt4830
@hannahwyatt4830 5 жыл бұрын
@@luciamendoza9224 Sooooo polygamy
@shadypalmtree2989
@shadypalmtree2989 5 жыл бұрын
@@beauswan6531 I guess you could say that, but I do personally identify as heteroflexible. Bisexual to me mainly means that you prefer each gender equally and don't have a preference for. Hetero/Homoflexible, on the other hand, shows a preference or leaning towards one or the other.
@andie2933
@andie2933 5 жыл бұрын
@@shadypalmtree2989 totally support you defining yourself however you want but bisexuality definitely does not mean that you have to like both genders equally. its more complicated than that. it literally just means you like both genders. you can like men more or women more and you're still bisexual. but like I said labels are just labels and if you feel comfortable identifying that way then go ahead.
@cordeliax8972
@cordeliax8972 5 жыл бұрын
i’ve never seen the show because i’d only ever heard bad things but i’ll probably go watch it now ngl! also i really feel like people need to make a separation between the opinions of characters and the opinions of creators of the show because characters can be bad people without the writers having the same opinions!
@KC-ep6sg
@KC-ep6sg 5 жыл бұрын
cordeli a don't bother... it's not funny, not entertaining, not enlightening, and all the characters are flat with no personal growth. I gave this show a chance but now I wish I could un-watch it
@catgum5800
@catgum5800 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was enjoyable to watch and I liked the message behind it but I don’t think I’m going to watch the second season
@siobhanm9690
@siobhanm9690 5 жыл бұрын
THIS. as a writer i totally agree
@cordeliax8972
@cordeliax8972 5 жыл бұрын
update! i loved it!
@sydneymcelwain1414
@sydneymcelwain1414 5 жыл бұрын
its so terrible that its amazing
@scythek.2698
@scythek.2698 5 жыл бұрын
I can relate to Nonnie, I felt the same way about my best friend growing up and I never knew why. It took me so long to realize I liked girls. It’s not homophobic, that’s what happened to me too.
@Whackadoo1
@Whackadoo1 5 жыл бұрын
As a black bisexual dude, this happened with one of my best friends back in school. I also wasn't offended by the bisexual joke and Bob's sexual awakening rung true to me. This show never came across to me as racist in any way. This show is proof that sensationalism is alive and well in America and people love to be offended nowadays.
@juliahcornell
@juliahcornell 4 жыл бұрын
I'm bi and have been told before that "bisexual people don't exist" including by my mom, who told me that people are "either straight, gay or confused." I was actually super excited about the Bobs' storyline and even happy to hear that line because clearly the writer's aren't biphobic (otherwise they wouldn't have written in a compelling bisexual character), they're actually acknowledging bisexual erasure, which is awesome. AND, he's not only bi, but also open to polyamory, and it's presented in an over-the-top and comedic way (fitting the tone of the rest of the show) but not mockingly or critically. In fact, it seemed quite positive to me, even if the thruple didn't work out. This is the kind of representation that I would LOVE to see more of. In terms of positive reprentation, polyamorous bi/pan people pretty much only have Sense8 and this subplot from Insatiable.
@fioandturnip
@fioandturnip 5 жыл бұрын
Love the way you discussed the slander of Christianity (I’m a Christian) without playing a victim card. I wish people could see Christians like you and understand that we are people. 10/10
@zealouslyCantankerous
@zealouslyCantankerous 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for what you said i feel that exact same way
@siobhanm9690
@siobhanm9690 5 жыл бұрын
i wouldn’t call it slander, the toxic culture of the church makes people resentful and that’s mostly why it has a bad rep in pop culture.
@Jesei1211
@Jesei1211 5 жыл бұрын
@@siobhanm9690 that was like 100 years ago. And what's about Muslims? They're openly homophobic but are still protected by feminist and shit.
@ravedubin3983
@ravedubin3983 5 жыл бұрын
backup account What aboutisms another reason people don’t like Christians. Christian evangelicals still have a lot of power in this country look at Mike Pence.
@krystyndaniels5212
@krystyndaniels5212 5 жыл бұрын
While you might be one of the good Christians, there are a lot of things that Insatiable parodies about the Christian faith that (as a member of the LGBT+ community and a sexually active person) I have unfortunately experienced. I don't say this to demonize Christianity however there are a lot of things that I hear from people of all religions that are quite frankly hateful.
@knorenknor3493
@knorenknor3493 5 жыл бұрын
this was finally a show where they showed my kinda eating disorder and body dysmorphic disorder and i relate to that soooo much but no people keep bashing it like ???
@KoscheiTheMaster
@KoscheiTheMaster 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, but Choi Boi really WAS the real star of Insatiable. Loved his character development
@cyberzcatz
@cyberzcatz 5 жыл бұрын
I just feel One Day At A Time should've been treated better than this...
@winsh2040
@winsh2040 4 жыл бұрын
Yessss
@chillstudy8223
@chillstudy8223 3 жыл бұрын
@@winsh2040 nooo
@heythere6789
@heythere6789 4 жыл бұрын
After spending sm of my tweens on "skinny goals" tumblr and seeing the "nothing tastes better than skinny feals ✌" eating disorder promoting bs, I LOVED the insatiable season 2 ending with her claiming "nothing tastes better than killing feels" line 😂 it fucking killed me and felt like someone who actually knows something about the world of people who are plus sized or have eating disorders.
@kileyeast1443
@kileyeast1443 5 жыл бұрын
25:38 yet another thing about this show that's great because binge eating/over eating disorders are always looked down upon as "oh why don't you just eat less" but that's what makes it a disorder. They showed her relapse and the way they did was genius
@veronicaortiz-zarate6975
@veronicaortiz-zarate6975 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU, the show is the opposite of what critics say it is but people didn’t even give it a chance!
@leeainsworth
@leeainsworth 5 жыл бұрын
Olivia is the only KZfaqr that I’d sit and watch be a professional film critic for 30 minutes :)
@yukiandkanamekuran
@yukiandkanamekuran 4 жыл бұрын
i started to watch insatiable as ironic, but its overly "horrible" because thats the show's humor, its dark humor, its comedy.
@cyborgqueer
@cyborgqueer 4 жыл бұрын
YEESSS THANKYOU; I love Insatiable, and I’ve had a lot of fucked up shit happen to me, especially as a kid, and I have a dark sense of humour; I loooveee this show, thankyou for making such a great video defending the show, as well as explaining it to people.
@ariannadelloiacono2429
@ariannadelloiacono2429 5 жыл бұрын
You just convinced me to watch the show. I haven't watched it yet because of the hate it got and because "comedy" series just aren't for me, but I'm gonna watch it! I also love Debby Ryan so there's that.
@KC-ep6sg
@KC-ep6sg 5 жыл бұрын
Aryaxna Don't worry about it if you already don't like comedy shows- Insatiable is not funny at all whatsoever
@Evarya
@Evarya 5 жыл бұрын
It's pretty bad tbh don't get your hopes up
@zoesolomon7773
@zoesolomon7773 5 жыл бұрын
i actually watched this show from a purely analytical standpoint and these were my takeaways: 1) the show does have some damaging themes but not in the way people like to say, it’s mostly by just not discussing those themes. it doesn’t actively take a homophobic or fat-shaming stance or anything like that, and i wouldn’t even say indirectly. but for example, you watch someone have an eating disorder and there isn’t any significant amount of information provided about eating disorders when there are ways to incorporate information organically (see certain scenes in netflix show “atypical”) 2) it’s just not a very good comedy. it’s mostly just sexual innuendos and words that sound funny and jokes you’d imagine seeing on facebook. idk, i don’t know why they decided to incorporate comedy. it would have been good as a drama. sure, comic relief, but it’s categorized as a comedy, which i just have to disagree with. however, several jokes did land and i noticed most of the jokes i laughed at were from bob armstrong. 3) a lot of the characters WERE written well. and they approached the topic of being gay very well. that’s all i’m gonna say here because you covered it lol 4) the ending is really intriguing, but i did find it sort of hard to get through every other episode of the season. i will watch season two, though, simply because i believe it’s taking a turn and could pick up from here. essentially, i think season one was the set up to what could be the more central plot. anyway, i don’t think the show deserves the hate it’s getting, but i don’t think it’s a great show either. i do hope the writing can get better because i don’t think the writing was stellar. but i think this could be a diamond in the rough. thanks for coming to my TED talk lol
@stan_dinghere
@stan_dinghere 5 жыл бұрын
delicious finally some good fucking nuance
@zoesolomon7773
@zoesolomon7773 5 жыл бұрын
radical adequacy thank you love💖
@crowm924
@crowm924 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with your points and it’s well spoken, however, my issue with it wasn’t any controversial subjects but the story arch was really screwed up. They made things intentionally over dramatic as you said but then tried to make things get all serious and it gives the show a weird rhythm
@lilJess0831
@lilJess0831 5 жыл бұрын
This week on Olivia Praises Something That Most People Hate But I Also Love...
@JasminMiettunen
@JasminMiettunen 5 жыл бұрын
Her being fat wasn't used as a comedic thing, but they did kind of play into the “fat and sloppy” stereotype, suddenly after losing weight she was like into makeup and fashion, her personality changed. It was just the starting point, though, the show was absolute chaos, so it definitely wasn't boring. It could've honestly been anything, like she could’ve been bullied for having orthodontic headgear and then gotten it off.
@K1893
@K1893 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed as "I'm not blind, I know I'm overweight" person who has struggled with my habit of eating my feelings and a terrible lack of self control when I'm not at 100% mentally I can honestly say loved Insatiable. I've feel and still feel, a lot of the things they talked about and that birthday scene did stroke a nerve.
@maralynn1851
@maralynn1851 4 жыл бұрын
As an atheist, seeing religion being ridiculed doesn't phase me and when you got to your point about it stomping on the church I was ready to be like "oh look another Christian getting triggered over the criticism of their religion". But after I heard you out I actually agree with you a lot
@beithrr
@beithrr 4 жыл бұрын
just because this show has poc actors, does not make it “not racist” - just like how police forces with poc officers aren’t less racist just bc they hired people of other ethnicities
@joe6185
@joe6185 4 жыл бұрын
The thing you said about how the people on stage were willing to drop it all if anyone laughed, makes me SO happy!? Like-?!?!?!?
@hattie7814
@hattie7814 5 жыл бұрын
You’re like a friendly Rosa (Brooklyn 99) Sorry, waaaay off topic
@nayeonswife6994
@nayeonswife6994 4 жыл бұрын
omg yes! 😂
@maya-vz1wm
@maya-vz1wm 4 жыл бұрын
she even looks like her-
@kay049
@kay049 5 жыл бұрын
i thought insatiable was pretty good. to me it felt like satire and all the people personalities were exaggerized compared to normal people. i liked
@jaydabrianna5233
@jaydabrianna5233 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100%. I feel like most of the criticism was only looking at the show on a surface level. Or maybe people were just looking for things to be outraged by. I personally felt that the show was commenting on very real issues in a lighthearted and ridiculous way. Sometimes I feel like people these days want television/media to be a utopia, but we have to remember there are real issues in the world. I would rather media reflect and comment on reality than make everything butterflies and rainbows.
@aftereverett
@aftereverett 5 жыл бұрын
I loved Girlboss too which they also canceled. It’s so sad to me that we can’t keep shows that showcase personality facets of women that are unlikable. If they were men behaving in these manners they would be praised but because it’s women they’re hated. It’s crazy. :/ please quit hating on great STORIES being told that have interesting narratives and open dialogue.
@willowwhitelaw
@willowwhitelaw 5 жыл бұрын
They canceled Everything Sucks! Which I’m really upset about because I watched the entire season in one day and it was fantastic but ya know whatever
@willowwhitelaw
@willowwhitelaw 5 жыл бұрын
Liam's Lenz Your comment was completely unnecessary and idk why you even bothered but.. good for you?
@vwilliams3295
@vwilliams3295 4 жыл бұрын
They what??
@abigailkinloch3188
@abigailkinloch3188 5 жыл бұрын
honestly, I only didn't watch the show bc of the bisexual thing and that's because it was shown to me out of context. there was a video that only showed the line "bisexuals are like....." instead of the whole scene and it didn't give any explanation. this is a really good video and all of ur points are valid and well explained. imma go binge insatiable now.
@ohwowsports162
@ohwowsports162 3 жыл бұрын
People take this show too serious, i don't think is meant to be serious. I actually like it, it's really funny.
@bentleyfruits7316
@bentleyfruits7316 5 жыл бұрын
Ok im rewatching bc i love this video and i just want to say the way you talk and touch on these subjects are so admirable, your channel deserves like everything
@jakicantdj9979
@jakicantdj9979 5 жыл бұрын
Omg thank you I’ve genuinely been so confused on why people dislike this show. It’s good damn
@ashfordwyrd7458
@ashfordwyrd7458 5 жыл бұрын
That show is not melodrama, it's farce. If it were melodrama the complaints about it might be valid, but as farce it's not supposed to make sense. It's showing the absurdity of how life is by overstating that absurdity.
@carolynscherbinske511
@carolynscherbinske511 4 жыл бұрын
thank you. i really needed this. i hated feeling guilty for enjoying a show that everyone shat on me for enjoying. this is what i would try to explain to people and you did it so eloquently... thank you for verbalizing my thoughts.
@Blue-fp2cm
@Blue-fp2cm 4 жыл бұрын
I wrote a paper about this show and why I think people *actually* hate it (misogyny against its protagonist, but who's surprised?), and I must say, these are some of the best talking points about why the series is important and interesting! I think the most important thing is that the viewer is clearly not supposed to take any of it ~seriously~ because it's purposefully SO far over the top. How could anyone take any of this content literally, when every resident of the town dresses like a neon cupcake? Even Patty's bullies are cartoonishly evil, and you're right -- we are never, ever meant to be on their side. Great job of explaining and dissecting that sheet cake scene, too! Loved this.
@andis7187
@andis7187 5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t like insatiable too much but I feel like any complaints about it being any sort of phobic or racist or lacking in diversity are kind of unwarranted. It was a while ago but it seemed like there was more diversity than most shows I’ve watched. If anything it was excessive and in your face about it to the point where it sort of took away from the show, although I guess that was the point, it just wasn’t for me. I’ll probably get a lot of hate for saying that but I’m not a huge fan of over dramatic shows and this just wasn’t my cup of tea.
@myownbravado
@myownbravado 5 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen the show and have no intention of seeing the show, but I feel like I definitely get why people would get upset about it. Call-out culture has become such a huge thing the last couple of years, and I will never stop preaching about how unnecessary, extra, and harmful it can be. Thank you for addressing this. I was also just wondering if the accusations were true, but I don’t like Netflix originals enough to give it a shot myself and now I don’t have to!
@monarch3495
@monarch3495 5 жыл бұрын
If you don’t skip the credits on the birthday episode they actually continue the audio so you hear patty crying as she continues to eat. I liked that touch because I feel like it showed how patty felt spiraling back into binging.
@alexislopez2736
@alexislopez2736 5 жыл бұрын
I love that the show never sugar coats its topics. There were a lot of things that made me laugh and cry when I related to some of them, especially that they never pulled away from the real pain people feel going through in these situations unlike what most tv shows due usually so that they won't cause any controversy.
@blinkfilms1
@blinkfilms1 5 жыл бұрын
i think it's possible to like debby and dislike insatiable. my main issue is the writing and production of the show. it kinda sucks. jokes fall flat and the satire misses. the tone and delivery of jokes don't mesh well with what is meant to be taken seriously. i think there is potential but it isn't there yet. to me its a trashy sitcom who's trying to be too serious and too goofy at the same time.
@yanaprodanova2760
@yanaprodanova2760 5 жыл бұрын
blinkfilms1 honestly i agree completely. i never really cared about it being "problematic," it just seemed altogether not written well and the storylines felt very convoluted and uncohesive. i got bored after 3 or 4 episodes.
@amandawheeler539
@amandawheeler539 5 жыл бұрын
Try drinking wine and watching it. lol. Its a good time.
@lunalove9395
@lunalove9395 5 жыл бұрын
ia, i feel like my issue is one minute it seemed like satire with jokes about paedophiles and such, then you had more heartfelt moments like her struggling with body image and binge eating and nonnie with her sexuality...i think i would've preferred it if it was a more serious show overall and the storylines flowed better, because i think they tried to fit way too many into 13 episodes.
@spicysalami4301
@spicysalami4301 5 жыл бұрын
Just gonna mention that I love Debby, she's a queen, and also love Josh, her (almost) husband! ( I just realized that you actually know who TOP is, I'm just so stoopid). Anyway, stay alive! ||-//
@zoitall
@zoitall 3 жыл бұрын
Omg best comment I was looking for something involving top XD
@gretyszabo8482
@gretyszabo8482 5 жыл бұрын
I watched the whole thing and I was like "It's not bad but kind of crazy and all over the place." but now you pointed out things that opened my eye that this show is exactly about how crazy life could get but you still have to understand your situation to move forward. It shows bad examples to reflext on the things you shouldn't do and it really does communicate with people. Now I'm impressed. (also sorry if I write something wrong I'm hungarian and not really good at speeches especially in languages othee than hungarian) I loved the video and you did really well in protecting the show.
@user-lw8db6in5b
@user-lw8db6in5b 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I’m so glad somebody here had an open mind going into it.
@faithabihaydar4028
@faithabihaydar4028 5 жыл бұрын
We love a queen with the ïñšàtíãbłë hunger for the unpopular opinions that I always agree with btw😂 🙌🙌🙌❤️❤️
@chloesiekmeier7173
@chloesiekmeier7173 5 жыл бұрын
i 1000% agree, i don't think ppl grasped the irony of a lot of the things in the show that were claimed to be "problematic"
@caroliner3567
@caroliner3567 5 жыл бұрын
omg. thank god I watched this video. I was weary to watch Insatiable, as I'm currently recovering from an eating disorder & I didn't want to trigger myself back into a relapse by watching the show. But after seeing your video I decided to give it a try. I'm only 5 episodes in, but the way they handle various social topics (eating disorders, LGBTQ+, etc.) is amazing and honestly very empowering. It really does bring to light that no matter HOW someone looks, they can be going through various mental obstacles (like binge eating even though you're "thin"). It's so important that topics like this are talked about, and I encourage people to give the show a try!!!
@isabellajaimie
@isabellajaimie 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you made this video. I was getting sick and tired of just hearing negative things from people who seemed to not have seen it. Sure, it has it's moments, and it isn't perfect, but there is far worse out there, and I enjoyed how crazy it got. It was supposed to be crazy and dramatic and satirical and nonsensical. Thats the charm of it.
@delicek8999
@delicek8999 5 жыл бұрын
*I mean.........she’s speaking faxx* 👀
@catherinewilliams6285
@catherinewilliams6285 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you! I love this show, and I seriously didn’t understand why people hated it so much.
@Anitakel
@Anitakel 4 жыл бұрын
❤️THERE IS HOPE!! ❤️Guys there’s a petition for insatiable to come back so go and sign up just Google it.
@anniee5487
@anniee5487 8 ай бұрын
i watched this show 4 years ago and i still think about it a lot as someone who struggles with restrictive and binge eating disorders. It was the first time I saw a former fat person-now skinny-still struggle with binge eating, despite their weight loss. id never seen it before and it really spoke to me. i understand why people dont like the show and thats fine, but it will always have a special place in my heart.
@Venus-cd1kk
@Venus-cd1kk 5 жыл бұрын
I like how you’re not afraid to like things people hate 💛
@nocturnus009
@nocturnus009 4 жыл бұрын
"Donald Choi was the real star of insatiable."
@marinaschuh1165
@marinaschuh1165 5 жыл бұрын
There is something out there that I believe is perfect as well. I loved that you added that in there...because it is up for every individual person to figure that out.
@marinaschuh1165
@marinaschuh1165 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny because I remember when I first got into your videos, I instantly thought "I bet she's a Christian"...it's not even anything that you say. It's who you are...and I really appreciate that about you.
@aurora1871
@aurora1871 Жыл бұрын
thank you i literally love this show sm lowkey reminds me of scream queens which i love too
@brookeuporsky5321
@brookeuporsky5321 5 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you for this, it's so good. I watched Insatiable when it came out because I love Debby Ryan and i wanted to see if it was worth all the hate. There was things I didnt agree with in it, but there was so many good things in it. No one I know has watched it, so I havent been able to discuss the show. But also Donald choy was the underrated start of insatiable, he deserved so much better🙏 Love your content Olivia ❤
@Mel-ku5ph
@Mel-ku5ph 5 жыл бұрын
As a recovered anorexic (pls read in ContraPoints voice, if you know her), when I saw all the mad comments under the KZfaq trailer for the show I was just smh. Even if the only content of the show was her becoming skinny through a liquid diet real fast it still wouldn’t cause eating disorders. People who are easily triggered already know they shouldn’t watch this and if they are this easily triggered (which I won’t judge) they shouldn’t be on the internet at all bc if you’re that unwell still you will be triggered by pretty much any slim person you see. Just my 2 cents and great vid!
@lookiepookie6069
@lookiepookie6069 4 жыл бұрын
“I believe there is something perfect” was 👌🏾.
@niamhramsay7913
@niamhramsay7913 5 жыл бұрын
I literally binged watched Insatiable in one day. I didn't do the homework I was supposed too. I'm not even sorry. (It made me listen to twenty one pilots less that day and that shows how BEAUTIFUL Insatiable is.)
@faithxueyu8608
@faithxueyu8608 5 жыл бұрын
One day at a time was the show that was canceled, and I personally enjoyed that show more than a lot of other Netflix films
@gabbyholloman9398
@gabbyholloman9398 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you brought up the birthday cake scene. As someone has dealt with a similar issue I found that scene heartbreaking cause I could feel and understand Patty's pain. It was that scene that made me fall in love with the show and everything it forced people to watch and notice. It was uncomfortable because it was the truth. And I will be repeating "skinny isn't magic" till the day I die.
@riagoyal4094
@riagoyal4094 5 жыл бұрын
I like having my opinions challenged and you do it so well, Olivia! Please keep doing these 'In Defence Of' videos :)
@leafelicitas356
@leafelicitas356 5 жыл бұрын
Donald Choi was the real star of Insatiable! I loved this video! I also enjoyed watching the show and was sad, that it got as much criticism as it did.
@caitlinmckillop
@caitlinmckillop 5 жыл бұрын
was hoping you'd address the problematic portrayal of polyamory in the show
@emmaberger3748
@emmaberger3748 4 жыл бұрын
Your description of the *TW* binge eating scene made me think of that one scene in the movie A Ghost Story, where one of the main characters is grieving and there is no music and she just sits on the kitchen floor and eats like an entire pie or something is also very real and I think it’s portrayed very well too. The themes of the movie aren’t related to that but I do recommend the movie (it’s very slow but about time passing and existential questions for the most part).
@Kate-skates
@Kate-skates 5 жыл бұрын
from the trailers it didn't seem like something I would like but i'm going to give it a try now because the way you describe it is a lot better than what I've seen about it !
@AK-ms6wx
@AK-ms6wx 5 жыл бұрын
loved your comments on religion as well- more nuanced discussions on religion are necessary rather than just dismissive "religion is bad" sentiment
@alannac6086
@alannac6086 5 жыл бұрын
I actually liked this show. It wasn’t perfect but it wasn’t problematic
@urtebuterleviciute2910
@urtebuterleviciute2910 5 жыл бұрын
the only person I've found who completely gets my opinion on insatiable and adores Debby just as much. I've been waiting for a video like this. May the odds make this go viral
@smexyhetalian
@smexyhetalian 5 жыл бұрын
You convinced me to watch this series, it seems super interesting and wholesome
@hentaimomoko4977
@hentaimomoko4977 5 жыл бұрын
I pretty much agree with most of this. It's not the greatest show I've ever seen but it had me laughing harder than any show has in a long time (especially the three-way thing with the two Bobs and Alyssa Milano). Even if it is problematic, it's okay to enjoy problematic things, as long as you can recognize the problematic aspects.
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