Thanks so much.

@Trainload Construction Or, in this case, kerosene.

@Trainload Construction it's a oil tractor ✌

Yeah, that's kinda right there with Hank Hill using the smaller can of WD-40 to help open the bigger can of WD-40

Funnily enough, many old tractors had smaller engines that were used solely to start the bigger engines. Those were needed as there were no electrics, and if there were electrics they were not capable of rotating the big engine. And I mean, the tractors literally had two engines installed, one to power the tractor and one dedicated to starting the tractor.

Different tractors for different jobs

In some areas History had it licked, the heavy metal wheels were one.

Haha

Aa good one!

More like great grampa is helping early man up in the morning lol

This is the most hilarious comment 🤩

These tractors made somewhere in the 740 foot pound range, not bad considering they pretty much ran on lantern fuel.

Impressive

Stoney Browning they did make things to last back in the day.

Not really. Impressive would have been if they'd gotten it running.

@@saludahead Not enough thumbs-up in the world for this comment!

And it still doesn't start. What's the point?

Intake valve is sticking open and ignition timing is way off.The late Mr. Vernon Griffin of Portland Tenn. would prime his with 2 rotations of the flywheel then pull it up to TDC easy by hand. After it crossed past TDC, the impulse magneto would "snap" , one of the cylinders would light and the flywheel would pull out of his hand and the engine start.

@@Clunk49 exactly, these engines should start right up by hand. Almost always less than 4 rotations, if it takes more than that they're doing something very wrong and probably shouldn't touch it. My guess is the timing is wrong, wich can blow the cylinder clean in half.

@@gittyupalice96 Read the Description. It says the Timing is wrong and the tractor had not moved in well over 10 years.

And a ten pound Sledge Hammer

@Nobody no it isn't, it's an oil fired internal combustion engine, I e a diesel

@Nobody no it isn't, it's an oil fired internal combustion engine, I e a diesel

@Nobody no it isn't, it's an oil fired internal combustion engine, I e a diesel

@Nobody no worries, if you listen carefully you can hear each combustion chamber exploding

Spencer Prescott you could find somebody near you with one or some, they will most likely be glad of any good help. They take a lot of looking after. Just put the word out you a willing helper for anybody with one. Big payback in experience, knowledge and good times.

@@andrewwilson8317 look for any local tractor clubs in you area, almost every state in USA and Canada have at least one club, go there and ask questions see what kind of tractor you actually looking for, see what it takes to have one, get to know the tractor guys so that they can help you if needed and finally, look look look all over Craiglist newspapers Facebook and all other selling website, somewhere out there thier is a tractor waiting for you

You got it. Great starters when well tuned.

That's how it should be. My 75 year old Atlas Imperial diesel engine does exactly that, fires on 120psi air pressure. Not sure what these guys are up to? 🤔

I feel that.

Yeah it has a neat beat to it.

Thanks, she put on a good show that day.

Thanks TR, this one put on a show.

Especially after sleeping as long as she did.

Young whipersnapper internal combustion tractor

Rainhill1829 that’s one grumpy old beast! I think someone needs another cup of coffee

If I had to deal with that thing I'd leave it running all the time

@@kubotaman3440 All joking aside, when the farmers of that era would stop for lunch, a lot of times they would just leave the tractors idling to keep from having to do another cold start.😉 P.S. They actually start pretty easily on gas when they're cold. Sometimes it's just a matter of rolling them over top dead center with the compression releases open, and as soon as the impulse coupling trips on the mag, they'll fire.😁

Once they are properly tuned up it is actually very easy to start even these massive displacement machines.

Like my square body S10, park it on a hill. A really long hill !

@@bobjones1131 🤣🤣🤣

Thanks so much.

Oh yeah.

They are pretty simple. They used a mixer instead of a carburetor so fuel supply was as simple as opening a needle valve and adjusting it as the engine load demanded it, using the color of the exhaust smoke and engine rhythm to guide you. Starting was simply setting the fuel valve, flipping down the decompression lever, applying some choke and barring the engine over. Ignition impulse and retarding was fully automatic so no worries there. When it fired you simply let it spool up as you adjusted your fuel settings. Under a heavy load a second valve on the mixer supplied water to the fuel mix to prevent detonation. The mixer also had a third valve for kerosene fuel which was used after the engine warmed up to operating temperature, gasoline was used for starting but not running due to it's high value in those days. Engine speed was adjusted with a simple ratcheted governor override lever that acted on the centrifugal flyball speed governor. Enjoy.

Love it

Lots of iron.

I would love to go someday.

+Demonic Darkness Awesome, thanks for stopping by, hope you enjoyed it.

I liked it a lot! Thank you!

Demonic Darkness Great

Demonic Darkness 🙄Really? 😎🆒Cool.

TheGarywilliams my guess is they thought it would be easier to start it off the sheave on the side of the tractor instead on the normal method. I'm assuming the normal method is by hand crank or some type of charge.

Yes since it had not ran in years and needed magneto work they thought it would be easier to do a belt start first to work the bugs out. Normally it is started by a large bar that engages teeth on the backside of the flywheel.

I thought you just turn the flywheel and it's alive

It is NEVER that easy.

Normally they start with a leaver on the flywheel, this method with the belt is sort of the cheater way, and good for stubborn engines that dont wanna start

The crank on that Rumely is a serious bit of mass to get turning.

David Lowery Ships about as much oil too.😆

You nailed it

The early Rumely designs ran counter clockwise but these late models ran the other way.

Oh yeah, we got stuff as far back as the 1890’s.

They actually start really easy when properly tuned and in use regularly.

Good to hear.

There is a bar to wheel over the flywheel fixed to the frame. You set the carb, opened the decomp levers and barred the engine over till it fired. it is actually quite easy.

+Eli Whitney No problem, here ya go: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9WVa6VmtZOmf40.html

+Rainhill1829 Thanks, Sir. So very interesting. Hope all is well.

Eli Whitney Most certainly, cant wait for this season to get rolling.

Can't wait! Amazing!

"Jem's Tune" by Big Tuna from the "StarCraft Wing's of Liberty" album.

She makes a fantastic metronome.

Ha

Yeah.

Just visit your nearest antique power show; there's usually a Rumely or two there, as well as a a few Hart Parrs, Averys, IHCs, and Waterloo Boys. Sometimes they just chug around in the tractor parade, other times they put on plowing demonstrations or power the sawmill.

Secular Sunshine Good question, there is a large crank permanently mounted behind the flywheel for barring the engine over manually.

Good parallel.

Always a good show when it hasn't run in a while.

See the comments from HeavyChevy2 and the video poster from two years ago. The Magneto timing was off 180 degrees.

Yup, turns out the mag needed a re-timing.

Dunno, it's never not started :)

My best guess would be either a windmill or that first tractor is able to start on its own

Beau Nugent runs on oil and one cylinder

You nailed it, turns out the magneto was hooked up 180 degrees out of phase, simple fix and it worked.

did you make a video of it running?

never mind found it

HeavyChevy2! Yeah, It's blasting exaust out of the intake.

That's exactly right!

Super cool.

Haa, yes a very long time ago.

Early models with the massive parallel cranked twin cylinder engines ran in the opposite direction, clockwise viewed from the flywheel, these late models were a new design that ran the other way.

It's amazing how many of these slow running engines tend to make musical tunes as they operate.

Yes. Nothing sounds like an old engine with big pistons and a huge stroke. That's music.

Yup.

We were rotating it correctly, the problem was eventually traced to the magneto coupling being bolted together in the wrong phase.

@@Rainhill1829 oh, that makes sense! Thanks for replying :)