Look Josh Whedon was/is one of those A-Hole boss that alot of people have and had from the stories from Ray and Charisma. It's not like he sexually harass them, assaulted them, being r_cist, or a sexist pig at/in the workplace (that we know of). A comparable example, Gordon Ramasy the dude is a total tough a-hole boss and yet people still eat his food, buy his cook books, and watch his shows. Be weary when ever someone starts off saying "My Truth" ... because there is only "The Truth" ... My Truth is just another way of saying *my:* version//lie/narrative.

@@knessing7681 If the stories about him making writers cry and bragging about it, or the stuff he said to Charisma, that goes beyond being an asshole boss to outright abuse. I've had asshole bosses, and as much as I didn't like their approach I knew there was a basic level of respect that meant I could put up with it. The shit Joss is accused of doesn't make him an asshole boss, it makes him a BAD boss. There is no way you're getting the best work from your writing team if you're making them cry every week, there is no way you are getting the best performance from your actors if they feel demeaned and belittled every time you talk to them. The fact that he couldn't be trusted to tone down his behavior with a teenage girl, to the point where he wasn't allowed to be alone with her without a buffer, is ludicrous and pathetic. A director's job is to direct people, a level of interpersonal communication skills and adaptability is integral. Also worth noting that Charisma and Ray Fisher are being backed up by a lot of their co-stars and Joss's writing staff. At the absolute very least, this paints a clear picture of Joss overstepping appropriate boundaries and levels of respect for his workers. There is no excuse for that, if he meant it in good fun and was somehow dense enough to not realize he'd gone to far when someone broke down crying, then he needs to profusely apologize. I say this as someone with a pretty mean sense of humor. I can be brutal with my teasing, but I know how to tone it down if the person isn't comfortable and if I go too far you'd better believe I apologize and do everything I can to make sure the person is okay with how hard I push going forward. A director who can't do that is hamstringing their project for their own ego. Gordon Ramsay plays up his persona for the camera, he is much less belligerent in the British versions of his shows. Even if he is an asshole when working in a kitchen, a high stress environment like a fine dining restaurant where seconds are the deciding factor between whether a dish turns out good, bad, or has to be restarted is very different from a television or movie set. Being a head chef warrants a level of strictness that is necessary for the restaurant to function, directing on a set where an entire day might be set aside for just one scene doesn't. In fact, it will often make the process even harder. If your standard for how much abuse a boss or public figure is allowed to get away with is how successful their business is, you are contributing to the problem. That attitude is exactly why Weinstein was able to get away with his bullshit for as long as he did.

@@knessing7681 why are you defending verbal/emotional abuse? The way he acts should not be excused ever. It’s disgusting. Yes some bosses are plain assholes but Joss deserves everything coming his way, he’s outright abusing his power.

I'm glad you kept it up, it's such a beautiful video that I missed when the Marvelous scene thing was in full bloom

Welp, good thing I don't care.

Never even noticed, but in the start Tony does look to be settling down with Pepper because of his dreams of a child instead of more space nightmares, and later Thanos throws (part of the surface of) a moon at him. So many connections with these movies, it's crazy.

Navon Myhand but then again I’m sure something about Loki saying “You will never be a God” could apply here, like maybe how in the end he still lost

Yeah, they almost fooled me into thinking they have an actual plan for the mcu

@@nahuelahpa1881 not like it was 10 years in the making am I right?

Well, this is just drama writing 101. Nobody wants to read about a character who lives ahappy quiet life. If you want your readers to be invested, start throwing stones at your character.

Right?? Like, damn, youtube is seemingly cleaning up it's act. I've been getting this top-tier small guys popping up often now. Makes me happy to sub to real content creators.

Tbh?? It's getting actually...better.

hm yeah except the first three minutes is just him advertising other channels

It’s just not 10/10 tho is it u muppet

wait that's illegal

Briggs 14k*:)

Almost 15k

The Last Avenger 15 now haha

22.3k you nub

@@callmeenzy5715 no? Its 14.5 k

But now I think Ultron will emerge back as white vision in wandavision!!!

@@IronMan-jj2fd nope lmao

@@JayF2912 haha 😆

Kid Guap Well Tony is still a billionaire playboy philanthropist, and I love him 3001

Yooo guap 💀💀💀

That’s not Tony’s heart

Stefan Brockelbank thanks for reminding me XD

It's not his heart anymore. ...For two reasons.

Hey, you... with all the likes... Where did the accent go ?

Madlad*

Then, I became a Mad Titan.

Thanos is actually a dead robot in the woods confirmed

Tony created his own fear

This is my favorite line of all mcu movies

@Duck Soup i agree this would have been a more touching ending even though ultron is a sociopath

That means Ultron is really a villain because he died a villain

with this video's suggestion that vision and ultron is the metaphor for the russos and Whedon respectively, i take this more as like... "Well, I was born yesterYEAR" Age of Ultron (2015) Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014)

I like that line too, but I really like the line “... blah blah....I was meant to be beautiful” from Ultron

Hopefully the Black Widow movie will have a flashback to that, because then her MCU character arc would be truly complete.

I agree with pretty much everything, but I wanted to make a comment because of the irony in it: Thor's sidequest. One of the things that was most actively trying to be removed, as the cave scene was part of it, was the thing the studio wanted most. And it is the farmhouse scene that the studio would take out in retaliation. It was the most important scene of the entire franchise, a scene where everyone is shown as a human being instead of just a superhero (*cough cough* DCEU) would get removed because the studio wanted their exposition dump. If the movie did lack the sidequest, then even the action scene numbers could become bearable. Breaking into Hydra's headquarters is a fight that we needed to see. The rise of Ultron and his problems with the Avengers was a fight that was going to go down, and from there, the only fight scene that really didn't progress the story was Hulk vs Hulkbuster. Which itself is the entire point. Demoralize the Avengers and waste their time for Ultron to get his own plans. That's also why the final fight has so many small, human moments in it as well. To make it more than just another fight scene against the big bad villain.

@@cap10ameriken20hey future man here, know I’m a bit late to say this but unfortunately didn’t happen…Womp womp

Hey, at least you did! :)

How does it comment on the film?

Let me know what you think of the Ready Player One, Logan, and War of the Worlds videos! Those in particular are my favorites (and are more what I'm aiming for now). Hopefully you'll love my next video, too!

Hello

Same!

Joshua Fischer I don’t know what that means but it’s beautiful

@@aaronvaughn5559 It's a quote from a book.

The wine warms Dreams as it gasps From its mouth Of greenish sweetness And between the books Of the good memory It stays listening Like a blind man In front of the sea

Thought ur mentioning Black Panther and Killmonger after the fight.... Then I noticed 'Blind'

Forgive my mistakes in this because I know I don't remember everything correctly, but early one morning in the middle of the night, two dead men got up to fight, back to back they faced one another, drew their swords and shot each other. (It's a combination of the real version and the punishers version and it know it but I don't want to do the research to pick one or the other end make it accurate just for this comment.)

this plays so well with Wandavision’s sitcom festure

That... is one of the biggest complements I've gotten on this! Those original few are among my favorite KZfaqrs! Thank you so much! It made the almost full week of editing worth it.

Even better than some of the original, in my view

Agreed. I 've watched a bunch of all the other ones and you have these guys with under 5k views or 1k subs and props to them for being a part of it and spreading their influence and their voice. But their quality just doesn't compare, as no fault of their own. but this one, this one I like. It's well thought out, well written, and longer than 5 minutes lol.

@@joshboy64 well it payed off

Came down to the comment pits to say exactly this. Instant sub. Mad props.

huh

spader is why. james spader is always why.

Of all the KZfaq comments Ive read in my entire existence; this one... Your insight, your ability to subconsciously capture such subtle context with the wisdom to structure your long awaited revelation with such precision that I feel like an idiot having never noticed that he was turning Human. Thinking about it, I began tearing up as I read that seeing so much of myself in Both Vision and Ultron... Thank You , you magnificent Soul ! May you have Peace in all your time. (oh and those final line suggestions TRULY BLEW ME AWAY. Well Done)

This actually made my night - thanks for the comment!

@@joshboy64 no problem bro I love your content...keep it up man

In a kiddie pool

Joshua M That scene actually made me cry like a baby. I can't believe they killed him off after just 3 movies in the MCU...

BRO NO SPOILERS!

Films are indeed reflections of the filmmakers' psyche at the time, ala diary entry set in different world. Immortalized frame of mind. Reminds me of what happened behind the scenes with Andrei Tarkovsky (The Mirror, The Stalker), David Lynch (Eraserhead) and many more.

The Hunter x Hunter 2011 Dickriding Association Mureum was literally a new born just a few months

@@trabiasblagmon5180 I know it's great!

The Hunter x Hunter 2011 Dickriding Association So uh...You wanna explain that random motive Mureum had to end inequality that came out of no where and contradicted his plan to feed the ants?

@@trabiasblagmon5180 random if you weren't paying attention at all. Seriously wtf a child could follow his arc. His original goal was ruling not feeding the ants, classic case of only listening to part of what was said. He even had a philosophical discussion with his guards about what makes a king a king. That was his arc. A good king puts the weak first and lives and rules for them, because they have potential to be strong in different ways. That's what his drive to end inequality was about. That's what Komugi, you know, the girl he loved and who his entire development was around taught him. The character so important that his personality REVERTS when he forgets about her? Christ man

The Hunter x Hunter 2011 Dickriding Association No your explanation didn't address his contridition. His motive to stop inequality had a flash of images showing poor children and war in his head. How does your explanation of a conversation about being King give him the knowledge of the poor children and state of war around the world? He hardly left the castle how did he know this.

I think the quote was absolutely sarcasm, maybe making reference to something that happened here didn't talk about. Theres no way he actually thought that, he's definitely spitefully throwing shade at marvel, or someone there.

Gavin Walker Just doing a little research will show you how sketchy the guy is. There are accounts upon accounts. He's way past being given the benefit of a doubt.

As a child I was confused. I didnt understand who he was even when he was identified. I was like that's not him.

Look ALMOST nothing alike? They look NOTHING like each other. Everything about them is different.

It’s the last guy you want. End of statement. Anyone that tone deaf doesn’t need to make anything for public consumption

depends on what you like to look at. Or click most often at.

Alex Bailey i thought it was good

Ultron is stronger in Marvel comics.

Ultron was a really good character

@@ikeeichenberg9068 he really was

@@daoyang223 maybe but I always found him a bit boring personally

Lewis Davidson I know tons of channels like this that get thrown under the rug.

Size matters not

... Did it just happen from this video or what? His subscriber count is now at 4.2K just 8 days after this video was made.

@@stephenrhoades8686 I see 5.7K right now.

@@Wolfarior damn that was fast. 5.9K now.

GABRIEL ORTEGA he was basically saying that Ultron in that instance was Whedon because he’d had control over a large part of the MCU for so long that he saw what happened when there was pushback from the studio to do anything and Whedon was cynical the same way Ultron was and the Russos are Vision because he’s an optimistic newcomer that hasn’t seen the worst of humanity (or pushback from the studio in this case) and is looking forward to nothing but the best.

I think I always liked the movie because I don’t remember seeing the marketing at all, I always loved that movie and was confused as to why people hated it, I feel like ultron left such a great mark on the mcu and our characters.

I like Helen Cho.

The old Psychiatric party lines of nature versus nurture. Another good movie that covers this topic is Trading Places (it's kind of old, but it's a good movie anyway).

Luckily in the multiverse of madness you get to see the good version of Ultron.

Facts bro

slumpjezus - I just came across his (this) video, and sub’d. Good stuff.

Well his sub base exploded since this if these numbers are anything to go by?

Not that hard to write a script about a movie you like had to do it in grade school often

@@imafan6138 why are there people like you who always have to trivialize other people's accomplishments. damn shut up

Was high af when I watched first time had to rewatch this amazing movie and video great vid man. Me personally I felt that the conversation between Vision and Ultron was overlooked. The way Ultron talked to Vision made it seem as if he summed up the MCU as a whole. It was different and I liked it.

224 subscribers now 1k subs

The youtube algorithm recommended your video to anyone suspected to have watched endgame. Act fast and take advantage of this 1 in a life time moment.

I come from time to time to see how big you have become just from this video. Congrats, and I await your next video!

Sub bot

realar I think that underneath it all there’s a great film-honestly Ultron has near Shakespearean depth

@@GabyGeorge1996 AoU has been one of my favorite MCU films since I saw it. Honestly, Ultron is such a compelling villain, I just don't get all the criticism. He's the perfect antithesis for the Avengers' optimism, and he has a strong personal connection to the heroes he is fighting. His voice and mannerisms are perfect, his dialogue is super well written. I have no idea why the film is reviled so much. It has some of the best scenes in MCU history - the afterparty, the farm, that base raid in the beginning, the scene that this video mentions, Hawkeye's pep talk... Honestly, the only thing I dislike about it is killing off Ultron, but even that doesn't feel definitive.

realar I agree with you, AoU was the second (IM 3 was my first, which is why it’s one of my favourite movies in the MCU) film I ever saw from the MCU so it will hold a place in my heart, it is extremely underrated

@@danielsilva9502 Though as he pointed out, the death of Ultron signifies a passing of the torch plus also a return to humble beginnings. Ultron ended just like he began, in shambles.

realar sure, for the film to have a satisfying conclusion, it should end this way, but I have a feeling Ultron will still find a way to rebirth himself, otherwise it wouldn't truly be Ultron.

Not even close to the worst. Captain Marvel and Iron man 3 are probably in the running for the worst

@@tayeessien6308 aww I actually liked iron man 3, I’m actually curious, why do you not like iron man 3, I personally like it because it experiences more with Tony’s trauma and the fact that despite being a hero he’s still human who has human reactions to terrible wars, I’m not trying to be rude towards you, I’m actually curious!

@@justarandompeep8945 I didn't like the villain, I thought his reason for hating Tony was ridiculous and so was the origin story of him being a nerd, I felt Rebecca Hall's character was wasted, I think the fake out with the mandarin was misguided and they ruined a villain for a cheap joke. Overall I just didn't feel Shane Black's direction was a good fit with Iron man

@@tayeessien6308 oh yeah I forgot about that, yeah they definitely didn’t do well with the villain aspect, the electro type villains always make me mad, their motives just seem too superficial at times. Yeah I definitely agree with you, I wish they had done a better job with those things.

I'd suggest looking into the production of Ironman and what Robert Downey Jr. and Jeff Bridges had to say. . . I ran across it a while back, and I now have a face to put to those stories. . .

He's also the reason TV shows never crosses over with the movies. Save for Jarvis.

@@whodatninja439 And that only happened because the Russo's were producers on Agent Carter!!

And remember Inhumans, about some rich elitist super "hero" family? The worst Marvel show to ever exist? That was Ike's passion project, no surprise there.

He’s also why we got the inhumanes and why they never made a female led marvel movie (he was dead against that). So yeah Disney buying marvel and benching him was probably the best thing for the MCU.

I love this

He would need to have a very strong relationship to Pym, and for that, Pym would have to be a more active part of the MCU, and I'm not sure they'd be up to that.

Vision was essentially ultron 2.0

Pym isn't narcissistic and hungry for control to ever want an Ultron 2.0. if we saw that scene it would automatically set Pym up to be a rogue bad guy.

@@jameslamb7197 Tell that to the Hank Pym from the comics

He wasn't really wrong though, Thanos did cause destruction with the Infinity Stones, and he does have a litteral Messiah Complex

@@WhyTho525 year old comment but Thanos had a messiah complex not a god complex

@@thekirbycrafter7229 Oh thanks

Him and Zemo

@@kingmuizz708 zemo only did it because of the events in age of Ultron remember his family died because they lived in socovia

@@junefall4189 oh shit yh,so Ultron and by extension Tony caused their division and subsequent loss..

@@kingmuizz708 Why do you think he was so guilty at the end of Infinity War? He saw all of this coming, but trying to stop it only made things worse.

@@onyxtay7246 well TBF his little actions against Thanos (or what he perceived as a oncoming threat) was the sole reason they had a chance because I'm pretty sure he's of wrecked them otherwise. But yes your right😂

That and the consequences of Age of Ultron are still being felt, even till the end

personally I think phases 1 and 2 were the "Age of Ultron" and phase 3 was the "Age of Vision."

lmao

Wdym

it was just filler and nothing more though. lol Civil War was more Avengers than AoU.

@Jeffrey Kyle and is basicly responsible for everything that hapens in Civil War -_-

@@Ravathiel Age of Ultron is so much better than the first Avengers, don't understand the hate this movie gets. Joss Whedon knew that he put too much stupid jokes in the first movie so he dialed it back a bit. I consider the Avengers movies the only franchise where each sequel is better than the last one.

@@millabasset1710 oh yeah, it's better than the first one. but the first works and a first teamup comic movie. bad guys from space geeetem! I just love Ultron in the books, so skipping out on Hankpym, Tony Stark creating him.. giving Ultron a stupid mouth and being cynical was out of character. I wanted the static mouth and one cold Brute of a killer

No coincidence god throws a stone thanks throws a moon to Tony in infinity war so nope no coincidence at all

¡El Electrico Dgr81! Well, Thanos technically takes his name from the Greek god of death, so there’s that

"f you could make God bleed, people would cease to believe in Him. There will be blood in the water, the sharks will come. All I have to do is sit back and watch as the world consumes you." "All this for a drop of blood."

Gaby George that’s thanatos

@@GabyGeorge1996 was abpuf to say something about that

I hate this "move rights" bullshit. Universal is a shitty company and they don't make anything worth a shit anymore.

Hawkeye isn’t retired, he has a Show coming out on Disney +

inb4 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 3 Stardust Crusaders RETIRED joke

Does no one know the u comes before the a in guard

@Spanish Moustache How is that a r/wooosh?

I'm happy to have inspired you with wanting to revisit it, even with the commentary! I will warn you though, I think another way this kinda adds to Joss being broken by this film, you gotta compare this commentary with the first films commentary. In that one, he's full of life, loved everything and everyone, and was even cracking jokes. This one, he was so business and depression, it really breaks the heart, you could hear it in his voice. Just something to keep in mind if you're going to listen to it with the commentary. And with this film in particular, be sure to check out the deleted scenes. There was a lot more to Natasha and Bruce that justifies her later actions in the film.

He's the underdog, the Browncoat

Cuttlefish Supreme I think this film was terribly underrated and with this context it’s made me want to go back to AoU. Also don’t go near Klaue, he may get a little frightened

I loved Age of Ultron, especially with James Spaders' voice work. I just wish they'd gone a bit bigger with it, and really made it an Age, showing how it changed the world, and the effects on society. I guess Civil War did that a bit, but...

@@SinewmireThe "Age" aspect is felt a lot in the MCU tv shows set after Ultron, especially Agents of Shield. They reference the Sokovia accords on multiple occasions, and even have a whole half a season (about 15 episodes) dedicated to an "Ultron 2" type scenario.

Digiquo I'd call that more of a legacy really, but I see where you're coming from.

Aw, no way! Nice to hear great feedback from a former classmate!

nice

@SquishyOfCinder what do you mean? What did he do?

​@@CrypticGuest lots of sexual harassment allegations against him, with a lot of people backing them up.

@@noncanalepricnipale and don’t forget he ruined Justice League and got the actor who played Cyborg fired and his standalone film cancelled, not to mention being an overall douchebag and jerk.

It's really something I try to keep in mind with my videos and even if I can my reviews. I think you'll appreciate the next video I'm uploading on Saturday.

Mmmhmm! He had written the script with Joe Cornish (Attack the Block, The Kid Who Would Be King) and was in development since 2007. It was supposed to be a part of phase 1, but Wright wanted to do Hot Fuzz and Scott Pilgrim vs. the World. When he finished the latter, The Avengers came on, and he was given a bit more time, and he wanted to do World's End in the meantime to improve on the action and round out his Ice Cream and Blood trilogy before tackling a superhero film. That footage I used was only test footage for a comic con, and hasn't been released publicly save for a few moments in an ABC live thing when Age of Ultron was going to come out. In my mind, it is a real shame, as not only is Edgar Wright one of the funniest filmmakers working today, but just one of the hardest working. The passion and care he infuses with his work is astounding, and I just think in my mind of all the potential easter eggs that could've been put in -- it'd be like Spider-Verse in live action, the amount of references and easter eggs.

I didn't notice when I saw Ironman 2 the first time, because of the time between my last viewing of Ironman 1. They could've changed anyone but RDJ. However, if you watch them back-to-back it is pretty jarring.

Chris Nelson I actually used to think that they were different characters and that the first one died at some point in between the movies.

Yankee Force Studios same same

@@yankeeforcestudios5431 that's what I thought too

In a good or bad way?

definatly a bad way

@@DestinyJunkie420 Why?

@@DestinyJunkie420 my man actually replied 1 year later

Thanks so much Gwen! You really made it hard to follow up, in fairness. You gave it such a personal and intimate take that I felt in the same state as you at the end of it (if anything, you made me wish I highlighted the "A thing isn't beautiful because it lasts".) I'm glad you liked it, and no worries! Anything to help us all out! :)