oompa: i'm gonna be completely unbiased in this video also oompa, 2 seconds later: so we should launch him into space,

I think I’d be more willing to hear his side if he didn’t lie about his intentions for his crime. If he were 100% honest about it I’d probably be slightly more sympathetic

Everyone should have a shot at redemption. As far as him having a "platform", I don't think we should silence people. We should encourage critical thinking instead of trying to cover everything up or wipe out things we don't like.

If you believe that people can be rehabilitated, you can't invalidate this person completely. The question of whether he has been rehabilitated is a completely different conversation. The justice system in this country has no intention of ever rehabilitating anyone, but again, completely different conversation.

I spent time in group homes and places where kids his age likely would have done the same thing if given the resources and I know people that actively work with that type of kid rn. Obvs this isn't to excuse anything they did or would have done but there's a STARK difference when comparing their current selves to how they used to be. Kids like that were mostly born with some form of mental issue to begin with and are reacting to years of abusive or traumatic experiences and they only get worse when improperly medicated or treated, whether by their own refusal or by doctors/social workers in over their heads. Those kids are capable of awful things but it's rarely because they're just born evil. It's extremely corny to say that hurt people hurt people but it's often true and so is the inverse. Helped people help people. Nothing can ever erase his actions and we'll never truly know what's in his heart, but nobody gets better when everyone refuses to even let them try.

The only way we can learn how to stop incidents like that from occuring is to talk to the people who've done it. He did a terrible terrible thing, but if he is silenced and cast out we will never learn how to truly combat these issues. Shunning the man will only serve to isolate people who felt like he did even further, putting them and everyone around them at a higher risk. There is hope, John is proof enough. He can never take back what he did, but he can warn people vulnerable like him that it was never worth it. I believe John should be allowed to keep his platform as proof that even in such a dire situation it's not too late to turn over a new leaf.

Ya I dunno man once you hear the full story it’s full of nuance and provides a lot of room for personal growth. Personally not a huge fan of once cancelled always cancelled you know what I mean? Everyone deserves a redemption arc

He paid his debts if you ask me. 17 years until parole and almost got all limbs cut off. He’s doing his best to change and forgiveness is important too in order to better ourselves and each other. What he did was aweful I’m just happy he is trying to make a positive difference now and he wanted the court to go easy on the sword guy who cut him up. I hope we all do more to help those trying to better themselves for society vs kicking them down again and again.

This is an extremely grey issue. I believe in rehabilitation and seemingly he is trying to use his story to help others. He should have a voice in my opinion. Not only did he serve his time in jail but he was punished by the universe as well. Empathy for such people is hard, but can be achieved.

It’s a weird situation but if him sharing his story helps prevent just one person from doing what he did then I think it’s worth it.

He did a podcast interview about his attempt on his school, life in prison, and the machete attack after- wish I could remember what podcast, I think it was "this is actually happening"- episode title: what if you brought a shotgun to school? I highly recommend it, hearing his story from him. He has gained so much self awareness, he talks about how the machete attack made him feel as helpless as he probably made all his co-students feel that day and how it's all come full-circle and taught him so much about being human. Amazing story, glad he told it please try and find it and listen to it anyone.

The idea that we let people like sneako, adin Ross, fousey ect.ect. who bring nothing but hatred and vitriol be influencers but someone that's that made mistakes that killed nobody spent decades in prison and now wants to talk about it and how he wants to change is really sad to me. Regardless of what someone did in the past people can change, people can try to be better, and people being upset about someone trying to do that to help others. If everyone's past was used against them then nobody should be called an influencer.

We shouldn't shame and deplatform people who have made mistakes and desire to seek genuine, positive change in their lives. Doing so just shows them and everyone else that there's no actual point to that change. I'm glad he has appeared to make those positive changes in live and share his story so that other people may learn and benefit from it, but when you lie and omit facts about what you have done, whether it be out of shame or for profit, you lose that trust you've worked on rebuilding since your mistake.

Caleb. This is crazy. You described EXACTLY the panic and anxiety disorder that I suffer with. Can’t sleep or eat and I’m constantly feeling like my heart is going to beat out of my chest. I feel like the world isn’t even real sometimes and I’m fading from reality and I have to struggle my way back. It’s the strangest thing and I can’t quite describe it but what you described sounds exactly like it. Thanks for sharing and I’m glad you are feeling better. I hope I can get better as well.

You cannot expect a teenager, especially one who did such a horrible thing, to be the same person he was as an adult. He did his time. He should be allowed all of the freedoms we have. He’s clearly changed. I want all of you to go back in time and ask yourself if you were the same person at 16 as you are now? Probably not. Me, at age 45 now, is a far cry from who I was as a teen. People can and do change.

glad to hear this year has been your best man, all peace and love, i've struggled with a panic disorder for a couple years now and i relate to what you say. I've finally become somewhat more stable, keep being you, mate

I’m currently in school and have been in a school shooting. I don’t think there is anything more terrifying to me that waking up to go to school. but I think it’s really important to here how to prevent things like this through someone who has done it. And there is a point where this should be forgiven and not held against him forever. I have anxiety and depression and homicidal thoughts count to me really often but for kids it’s harder to have that self control when you don’t have people there to help keep you stable. This is a really heavy topic but I think that things like this should be addressed and we should be able to work through bad things like this.

I think if we have criminals who are rehabilitated who then speak on what life was like and then what they’ve gone through, I think it’s great. However, I don’t think all criminals should be given a full 100% pass, just take their stories and accept them but not the person.

I feel like if we start cherry picking who is allowed to get 2nd chances and who can't, there will be a lot of inconsistencies. Which could lead to very problematic situations. If opinions do matter, then it should be the tiktoker and the victims and/or anyone that was involved. They would know the situation better than anyone else and if who or what failed the tiktocker and/or the victims. With that being said/typed, they don't owe us an answer either. If they choose to keep it between them, talk about it, or a combination there of. It's their right to do so. I feel like if we are starting to add more thoughts and opinions to it. There will be too many cooks in the kitchen and those opinions who do matter in this, will be lost in the chaos of it.

As long as he is open about his past so that new viewers know about it, I think it’s fine. When people get their second chance at life it’s healthy to have hobbies and this is probably one that fulfills him a bit. I havent watched his content so idk.

Hearing what Oompa went through with anxiety makes me finally feel more normal about my own anxiety disorders, knowing I'm not the only one suffering with sleep, work, ect.. Makes me feel vaild with myself! Also knowing there's a possible end/control to it also gives me some inner peace to my future

I personally don’t think that him being on TikTok is a bad thing. He’s mostly trying to help others by pushing his own example and also trying to be more helpful showing up on this “school safety meetings” because nowadays it doesn’t really matter what country you live in, you commit crime - you go to jail and after that your life is ruined completely. No matter what arson you did or been accused of - returning to a normal life, owning a property or office job is 95-97% impossible. So at least give him a chance. He’s still better than TikTok NPC livestreams.

Thank you for talking about your panic disorder. It’s something I have dealt with and thought it wasn’t common but it’s nice to see that you can overcome it and it gives me hope 😊

It’s so weird. It feels like he could be the most helpful person to help prevent these kinds of things. I’m confused that people are not thinking about their own emotional response more.

I feel like this person has more to teach than the average influencer. His message seems positive. Tellin someone not to make money on the internet is pretty lousy imo, just arbitrarily deciding how this guy can make money? That's dumb af.

Someone else who reported on this guy said she called BS on the "not wanting to hurt anyone" because he had the gun loaded 🤷🏽‍♀️ that was a really valid point. Also the fact that he advocates for mental health help but doesnt work with any actual professionals who might actually be able to help the youth he speaks to constantly in tiktok and in schools.

In my opinion, he deserves a second chance. He seems to have changed and is currently speaking out against what he did as a child. I think people who speak out against their wrongdoings and have certainly changed, deserve a platform and a second chance. Not to profit off of what they did, but to share what not to do.

I too was floored that this dude tried to get into the social media limelight but after hearing his story and even more his victim story its kinda amazing the full circle.

I think we don't realize how easily a lot of us could have ended up being this guy when we were sixteen. A lot of us are horribly unstable and I remember not being able to open up to my therapist because if I were fully honest they would put me in the psych ward with a bunch of kids who were court ordered to be there and didn't actually need help. I only know because it happened to me once and it made me reluctant to talk openly afterword. To me, he has paid his debt and did his time. Going overboard on Xanax could also have contributed as benzos have a very small window for therapeutic use before you get into paradoxical effect and then LD50 afterword. None of us are the same person as we were when we were 16.

I would argue that he is exactly the kind of person who should be advocating for mental health. for example schools hire people who have struggled with anxiety and desperation because they think that it could relate to the students better. i can imagen in schools where gangs, drug use and, other forms of violence my be common or a possible issue in the future.

People change, fact. After more than 1/2 his life alone in prison I'm sure it's liberating to speak out to people at mass. With his disability and criminal record I'm sure it's hard to find employment, his story is interesting and it's his right to speak his mind. You don't have to forgive him nor follow him but for the people who do forgive and are interested in his story, I feel that's completely okay. There's many ways we learn and get better, rarely is it by shunning people. Understand with compassion so we can prevent harm from happening before it starts

might want to look into the stabbing and slashing that happens in China's primary schools that is usually done by middle age men. The lack of reporting about this issue is appalling. This happens to be a world issue with mental health, not just the US. There are a lot of school related mass events that happen around the globe. The US just happens to take a pride in reporting it while other countries recognize the shadow it would casts. Growing up I did believe that this was only a problem that happened in the US. Sadly I was mistaken.

Don't think he's pregnant but Oomp still delivers

I mean he already did the time for his crime. I say leave him alone, I personally wouldnt feel comfortable around him either but I wouldn't stop him from living his life. That's how I feel.

I have had severe panic disorder since I was a little girl. Thank you for being so outspoken about it, it helps destigmatize it and makes people like me feel seen and not so alone. I hope you are doing well 💜

Bruh, I was an orphan who was abused in multiple ways, and bullied. The thought of hurting people never even crossed my mind, that’s no excuse. We’ve all had issues and childhood trauma.

Guy's life changed drastically for the past 20 years and for the best, he's even teaching kids not to do what he did so more don't have to suffer or cause suffering. All I see is a Man who's changed and still changing and mending the sins he has done for the better of society. If no one gives second chances and keeps treating ExConvicts in draconian ways they might as well be wild Animals and keep doing what they do. Rare L Take from Oompaville

13:55 Oompa. I've got no idea how you've done all that you've did with the panic attacks like that, but being where you are right now makes you such a strong advocate and role-model. The fact that you are able to overcome those things and still do as much as you do is such an astonishing thing. Overcoming it alone is a very difficult task that you should be proud of, but you've been able to overcome it and flourish despite it. That's amazing. It gives me hope just hearing that the past year has been the best for you. Much respect ✊

I like how everyone just comments before even watching the video💀

That tingling sensation when oompa uploads

Love these kind of videos. Storytelling and covering drama is really interesting

He did his time, and he payed his dues. He could just move on and pretend it didn’t happen, but he’s not. He’s spreading a message about mental health awareness, and that’s going above and beyond in my opinion.

I'm from East Greenbush where the shooting took place and I don't think anyone can really forgive him. Plus he got tackled when he fired he didn't intentionally miss!

Your serious content is just as great as your non serious videos, and you’re always funny. One of/if not top of my favorites subs for real

Remember: Life is scary, and sometimes it's almost so stressful that it's disturbing.

When you give a ‘viewer discretion is advised’ moment, please tell people what it’s about. Then they can make a decision whether it’s a topic they want/can watch or not.

I was diagnosed with severe anxiety and depression back in 2019, then we had the thing and couldn’t leave the house. I wish I had discovered your channel earlier cause it would’ve helped. You’re great, the community is great too.

The idea of forgiveness for those crimes comes from the concept of being in that person's shoes; imagine yourself having committed an act and coming out of it disgusted at what you are capable of. If someone truly has changed, there should be nobody who is allowed to subjugate them to a life of isolation and hate.

He served his time. Let him move on with his life. By talking about him like he can’t ever move past something he did as a teen that was awful, but he’s transparent about, you’re just making me feel bad for him.

I think people who are genuinely remorseful, and make serious attempts to attone for their mistakes do deserve second chances, however, i definitely think that people who have made grievous mistakes and/or harmed people in the past should not have a platform as an influencer. You are profiting off of the story that youve changed, but that also means you are profiting off of pain you have caused, and you should not be idolized by your audience, because even if you have changed, your mistakes still happened, and you will never be a person people should look up to or idolize, your story should be a cautionary tale, not a wholesome one, hurting people isnt wholesome, no matter how much you change

Im definitely a person that believes people can change, and putting them up on a pedestal is not bad, but infact inspiring and motivating. People always have things they regret in their life, and seeing someone change their life after doing something so terrible, can be a great motivators for others

He served his sentence. Paid his debt to society

Its true that this is a school shooter we should not feel sypathy as he did not do so when he was commiting his crime. But he is also a man who has been put to justice, done his time, and has now been deemed fit to come back into socity. His content revovles around the homeless,the unheard, and those who seek redemtion and ultumitly the money he makes will fuel that message. It is better that this is what he dissides to push for rather then attempting to seep back into society unknowingly. Every where he goes people will know his crime but now they will also know his messedge.

The Justice system is about as functional as a grandpa with about Parkinsons and Alzheimers

I really appreciate the fact that you speak your mind. You don’t seem biased, you’re welcome to your opinion.

your personal experience with extreme anxiety is not uniform. some people become violent when they are feel cornered even if not a direct result of their perceived environment but in their heads it can be more volatile. ive been there and i know what losing your mind for seemingly no reason feels like and how it can make you do ridiculous things.

Not another TikToker with a problem…Wait…they all…

I saw a vid on TikTok who had a son who was killed in a separate school sh----ting. John FOLLOWED the father. And that was my first exposure to this John character. Extremely disgusting behavior. I believe that people can change, and that people can improve and change and strive to be different. (And to an extent bc of my faith, the unforgivable can be forgiven if truly repemtant). But you cannot do anything to take the deepest wounds you've created away. That's jusy how the world is. Evil is evil, and evil seeps down and continues to hurt, even when you think you've cleaned up your mess. But John isn’t (imo). John's just shoving the mess under a soaked towel. It's spreading. And following victims of school sh---tings is just one MAJOR flag that something isn't right.

Also just wanna say I’m sorry about your anxiety and your mental health struggles, I wish the best for you and many more better years to come!

Man.. really appreciate your for talking about panic attacks etc.

As someone with a bad past it kinda hurts to see one of my favorite youtubers so simply say that this man should’ve been “eliminated from the gene pool”. I can say from personal experience that getting “eliminated” as you so put it, would be preferable to continuing a life so completely awful. I love you oompa and you’re my favorite comfort KZfaqr but ouch, yk?

There is something to be learned from him, by therapists and criminal psychologists not by him having a platform so he can directly profit from his past evil.. Lets be honest all this is doing is reinforcing that unspeakable act as a possible route to fame and influence to desperate kids.

Honestly, to judge the man on actions he made as a kid, after he's served his sentence, undermines the entire rehabilitative process. Especially when you aren't one of the people affected, it comes off as taking the safest road in being judgmental. At what point is restitution paid and, if never, when does the death penalty become the only option.

I suffer from PTSD from Afghan that haunts me daily, sometimes i just cry for no reason. Sometimes i get angry and lash out. The panic attacks are the worst, like a heart attack. I hope you the best, and am glad you are doing well.

Does Frankie get up in the tree by herself?

I agree with oompa on this, being someone that has been witness to a school shooting, they do not deserve redemption, let alone a platform. Period.

the catch 22 of these situations is that you end up penning yourself in to one of two camps. if someone has done something completely and utterly irredeemable, then it is better for society for them to be "removed from the gene pool" as you say, either by permanent imprisonment or death. if you have any thought that prison is primarily or even entirely for the betterment of society by rehabilitating prisoners instead of just a box to keep undesirables away from society, then you HAVE to assume that once someone has done their time, and is reasonably convincing to someone who has the authority to release them, that they have changed their ways. if you limit a convicted criminals options outside of prison too much, you end up either driving them into a place where they are more "justified" in doing crime to survive (in the instance of not giving cons jobs, for example) or you may as well have killed them in the first place. if prison is supposed to be for rehab, you must accept that people's crimes have some level of forgiveness if they are allowed to be let out. if you think there are unforgivable crimes, they either need to stay in prison for life or be shuffled off the mortal coil. having one foot in the issue is only going to hurt the most people possible.

"Evil is Evil. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference. The degree is arbitary. The definition’s blurred. If I’m to choose between one evil and another… I’d rather not choose at all." Geralt of rivia

He did the time, and he is educating people and not hiding who he is. He is doing lots more than any other would do to make up for it. I say let the guy provide value and insight instead of cancelling people.

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nah bro the sleeping thing hits hard, self improvement and stabilizing my life was my solution, my heart goes out to anyone else struggling

depression and anxiety when you are that young turns everyone who is happy and thriving into your ops. it destroys your goodwill towards humanity and makes you resent everyone. i am always so grateful i wasn't raised in a household with guns.

I just started my first year teaching in texas. I teach special education in a self contained classroom. I often worry about how I could protect my students in a situation like that. Most all of them have trouble being still and quiet in a calm setting, let alone in a situation where they would be confused and scared. I hope this man is deplatformed soon and is not able to profit off of his deplorable actions

From someone that was abused by her mother until I was 20, and I married a man that 'love bombed' me and tormented me until he died 34 years later and I say he shouldn't have a platform as an influencer. I have (C)PTSD, Major anxiety/panic attacks . severe depression ( I couldn't drive outside 7 miles of my house without panic attacks) etc. and so many people blame their childhood for why they do drugs, hurt people and commits crimes, I call BS. Everyone has a story, some are really bad. I managed to avoid all of that because I was taught in church that I alone am responsible for my actions. Someone else hurts you, and that catapults you into doing terrible things us no excuse. You are your own gatekeeper. Choices and actions are yours and yours alone.

@oompaville bro, I love that you shared the panic disorder you've experienced. When I found out that my ex fiance was pregnant with my son, I ended up trying to be the "strong one" and kind of acting like everything was going to be okay. Not knowing that by doing so I was going to be sabotoging myself for the future. As a consequence of stuffing all my worry, doubt and anxiety of the prospect of bringing a child into the world, I ended up enduring a 6 month long panic attack. I know that sounds crazy but, I could not be more literal when I say that from the moment I woke up in the morning until I went to sleep at night(because of a heavy dose of a bipolar med that I did NOT need to be on but, I digress) I would be in a constant state of panic/intense worrying. Every single step I took was accompanied by inner-thoughts of "am I walking too fast?" "am I walking too slow?" "If I don't speed up my heart will stop" "If I don't slow down, I will pass out or have a heart attack" and I knew logically in my head that these thoughts were just a symptom of my already existing panic disorder but, a panicking brain does not care for logic, it's trying to survive an imagined percieved threat. I endured these symptoms without any break apart from sleeping for just over 6 months until about a month after my son was born and I realized I couldn't do much of anything in the way of helping with him apart from existing and changing his diapers so his mother wouldn't have to get up. I ended up coming out and letting my now ex-partner know what I had been going through and for how long and we decided it would be best that I go in-patient for a short duration while my child was still immoble and she could maintain his needs on her own. Upon getting to the mental health unit, the prescribed me the medications and dosages I am on now(nothing crazy, if you care to know, I was put on Effexor and Abilify and taken off all previous meds) and when I woke up the morning after getting there, I woke up without butterflies in my stomach, I woke up without my inner-monologue plaguing me with a false reality and I sobbed like a baby because I was so relieved to be functioning normally again. I still suffer from panic disorder but, it's rare that I have a panic attack I can't use the tools I've honed over the years to mitigate. I understand that was a lot to read but, you sharing your experiance made me feel compelled to share my own because I never have and it was oddly liberating. Thank you for your videos Oompa, I know you're a comedy/reaction youtuber and your content may not be seen as cathartic or theraputic for most but, I will tell you that watching your videos on both channels are an outlet I use to surpress my worry and I am forever grateful to you for that. I appreciate you.

Ok Oomp, I have to level with you; I started watching you because you are one of a very few channels I can stand to hear talk about stuff. Now I'm watching to also see the fur babies. Thanks for sharing them with us. You're a pretty cool dude and I hope you get everything to are aiming for and much more.

As someone who has lost classmates to a school s....ting, thank you for your completely unbiased and honest take. I was not aware that this man has a platform on TikTok and I'm shocked to say the least.

I feel like he does seem genuine, and that the message he's going for does seem like it can have a positive impact, so I'd say keep letting him do what he does, but make sure he doesn't ever see a single cent from it.

I'm convinced that the reason so many evil people don't even consider changing is because of views like "you did this really horrible thing, you're now invalid forever." Ok, great, guess I'll just stay a monster, because that's all I'll ever be to you. He did a terrible thing, and he shouldn't be able to profit off of it, but he also shouldn't be silenced. The fact that you can't imagine yourself reacting the way he did is exactly why he should be allowed to share his story. Judging a person forever based on something they did before they were even a fully developed person is exactly how monsters are created and empowered, not how they're destroyed.

i knew someone who died in a school shooting in 2021. i was down the street when it happened so i'm so very biased on this conversation. i genuinly believe ppl can change but i dont see it in him. the live with aunt karen just cemented in my mind he hasn't change. if he really wanted to make a difference, he should do it behind the scenes and not be on social media.

I dont think i could speak on him deserving forgiveness. But I was sort of surprised when you revealed the crime, I was expecting a chomo or something. Personally i think its fine he 'has a platform', a lot of terrible people already do and just encourage terrible things additionally, hes not out there with a pro school attack stance.

I feel like when people blame their actions on their mental health it gives a bad rep to those who genuinely deal with it. Saying that you wanted to hurt people because of your struggles is so crazy to me and overall is a terrible lie.

Having your mom donate your old clothes is honestly super relatable

Not all anxiety and panic attacks are the same for all people. Your own experience with it doesn't mean other people have to have the same symptoms as you or they aren't valid.

Hear about inquisitore3?

Does he have a right to get on with his life and make a living? Yes. Should the public support his social media accounts to the point he profits? No. I’m pretty sure if you are convicted of a crime then you are not allowed to make money from “you story”. If he is in fact making any kind of money from telling his story which includes his crimes, then all the revenue should go to the victims of his crimes.

We all go through anxiety and depression. I know people who’ve lost both their parents at the worst times….he never turned violent

i love it how i can tell caleb is talking to his dogs without even looking at my phone. 😅

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the fact that he’s allowed to speak in schools astounds me. He shouldn’t even be let within 500 feet of a school.

Have you guys ever checked your neighborhood for predators? Found out I have several on my street plus some former hard criminals. Guys like this guy are everywhere

5:53 “okay back to being unbiased” 😂

He was a child! And that’s why I fall on the side of this particular topic that I do. We NEED a few people like him to have a platform. Otherwise there is no point in rehabilitation at all. If a child who served nearly 2 decades can’t change, no one can. And it seems like he has.

It’s really simple his channel should be de-monetised he shouldn’t be able to profit off of what he did, if he’s truly sorry and wants to help prevent others doing this then he should be doing it for free and earn a living working a normal job.

This and the whole inquisitor situation is the biggest thing on that app within almost a week of each other

My mother in law used to work at a prison as a therapist. Because of her I am able to sympathize a lot more with him. He doesn't deserve to profit off it but talking his struggles with mental illness may help a lot of people. If he is actively trying to change and be a better person all we can do is let him try and grow.

Anyone willing to hurt another human (who did nothing to them) has to have much more going on, in my opinion. Anybody, lemme know if I'm wrong.

Whats probably the most insane thing to me is just how tone-deaf it all feels. When majority of Tik Tok users are Gen Z (the generation most affected by gun violence in schools), of course majority of us dont want to see this person online. All of us, either directly or indirectly, have been affected. I think its totally understandable how infuriating it is to us given what we’ve grown up experiencing.

Idk. Yes he went to his school and did that but he was also a child himself, and I don’t like the idea of never letting someone grow past their mistakes, especially if they’re showing signs of remorse and trying to be better. That does show they recognize what they did and how wrong it was.

Oooooooo this is tough one.. As a person that went to school for recreational therapy and has been to a therapist many times I see from just watching this video and never seeing any others that he's trying to teach and prevent action like this. BUT it would be very hard to see this high praise from a former high school shooter. I'm all about learning from your actions and how prisons should be run on strict rehabilitation then incarnation but I clearly know that the would doesn't work that way. When people say "I won't trust them until I see some action" I do see this guy putting the action into motion. If he would have put all his earnings into organizations, people MIGHT see differently. Yet again, I'm a realistic then an optimis.