Operation Albion Concludes - Allied Failures In Belgium I THE GREAT WAR Week 169

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The Great War

The Great War

6 жыл бұрын

100 years ago this week, Operation Albion comes to a successful end for the Germans, as revolution is on the horizon in Russia. The Allies aren’t faring quite so well on the Western Front, where the weather continues to worsen and the death toll climbs ever higher. Haig believes a breakthrough is imminent and German morale is tested. The stalemate continues, but sooner or later the Battle of Passchendaele must come to an end.
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Hart, Peter. The Great War. 1914-1918, Profile Books, 2013.
Stone, Norman. World War One. A Short History, Penguin, 2008.
Keegan, John. The First World War, Vintage, 2000.
Hastings, Max. Catastrophe 1914. Europe Goes To War, Knopf, 2013.
Hirschfeld, Gerhard. Enzyklopädie Erster Weltkrieg, Schöningh Paderborn, 2004
Michalka, Wolfgang. Der Erste Weltkrieg. Wirkung, Wahrnehmung, Analyse, Seehamer Verlag GmbH, 2000
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@johnc4122
@johnc4122 6 жыл бұрын
"Yeah? So?" - Philippe Pétain, 1917
@totallynotalpharius2283
@totallynotalpharius2283 3 жыл бұрын
“Yeah so?” French Military tribunal ,1945
@samrevlej9331
@samrevlej9331 2 жыл бұрын
@@totallynotalpharius2283 Not a military tribunal, the High Court.
@federicovalsecchi8531
@federicovalsecchi8531 6 жыл бұрын
To Hotzendorf means failing spectacularly, To Cadorna means to try over and over and fail over and over, To Haig means believing to be just a millimeter away to succed every single time
@MajinOthinus
@MajinOthinus 6 жыл бұрын
Federico Valsecchi Wrong: You have to add being absolutely slaughtered by the germans to Cadorna too....
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 6 жыл бұрын
To Rasputin means to seek sexual gratification at the cost of a Nation's Future.
@901Sherman
@901Sherman 4 жыл бұрын
For Nivelle its to blame everyone for his own failures (except himself, of course).
@ISawABear
@ISawABear 6 жыл бұрын
Currie projected 16,000 Canadian casualties for the upcoming battle. The final tally was 15,654.
@raygiordano1045
@raygiordano1045 6 жыл бұрын
The appalling casualty rates of WW I still amaze me.
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 6 жыл бұрын
The fact that the total coalition casualties in Afghanistan was something like 3,500 in 16 years, and this ten week battle managed to take out half a million. Staggering.
@andersonandrighi4539
@andersonandrighi4539 6 жыл бұрын
That what happens when stong countries clash. I don't mean no disrespct to Afghanistan or any soldier fighting the war on terror, but the terrorist are poorly equipped when compared to the coalition.
@uninterruptedrhythm4104
@uninterruptedrhythm4104 6 жыл бұрын
So less than expected, success!
@MephLeo
@MephLeo 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, Afghanistan was and is an asymmetric war, there's no objective comparison to be made there
@Oliver6163
@Oliver6163 6 жыл бұрын
Some more info on the Zeppelin raid: One of the Zeppelins involved in the attack was L55, which after climbing away over the Western Front more or less accidently broke the altitude world record for airships (7600 metres), which is still valid today. Then it drifted away towards Germany and crash-landed, after being in the air for over 30 hours, in the village where I happen to live now.
@peterlynch1458
@peterlynch1458 6 жыл бұрын
That must have been very frightening, was anybody hurt?
@Oliver6163
@Oliver6163 6 жыл бұрын
Nope. It came down on an empty field, and even all 20 crewman survived unhurt.
@Geraduss
@Geraduss 6 жыл бұрын
Wow.. lucky, and spending the rest of the war in a POW camp.. surviving the war.
@Oliver6163
@Oliver6163 6 жыл бұрын
Well it was a german airship and landed in the middle of germany. They survived the war anyway though.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын
+Oliver6163 fantastic story!
@BufusTurbo92
@BufusTurbo92 6 жыл бұрын
[someone fails somewhere] WW1 in a nutshell.
@biomuseum6645
@biomuseum6645 4 жыл бұрын
BufusTurbo92 explain me please
@EnigmaEnginseer
@EnigmaEnginseer 3 жыл бұрын
@@biomuseum6645 An unnecessary loss of life due to new killing machines and military incompetence.
@knightoflight8249
@knightoflight8249 6 жыл бұрын
This war was truly a Great War. It was fought on land, underground, on the seas and oceans, under the seas and oceans, on the highest peeks of the deadly freezing mountains, in the deep blue skies, and in man's own mind. Yet no one seems closer to peace, just........😞
@shawnosborne7102
@shawnosborne7102 6 жыл бұрын
Madness
@cygnus_x1227
@cygnus_x1227 2 жыл бұрын
War is too profitable to be abandoned
@renejelsma5585
@renejelsma5585 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Indy, your video about Mata Hari can be seen in a museum in Leeuwarden.
@Onebadterran
@Onebadterran 6 жыл бұрын
A testament to how amazing this show is. That is absolutely amazing!
@niiiimand
@niiiimand 6 жыл бұрын
Some Blinkedder bloke send me a message there is Malta Hari in Malta
@zacharyhobia159
@zacharyhobia159 6 жыл бұрын
Indiana Neidell your channel is rising through the ranks, your video is now in a Muesem
@soulshunter7335
@soulshunter7335 6 жыл бұрын
The animation for the goulf of Riga are great! Keep up the great (war) work
@budmeister
@budmeister 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Allies studied that battle for all their combined arms landing operations in WW2.
@alekseibrusilov8218
@alekseibrusilov8218 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone miss me?
@thurin84
@thurin84 6 жыл бұрын
i find your comment offensive (you see what i did there?).
@alekseibrusilov8218
@alekseibrusilov8218 6 жыл бұрын
milcoll73 yes i did comrade
@daywalkersarkis3983
@daywalkersarkis3983 9 ай бұрын
Yea
@sahholsteins1
@sahholsteins1 6 жыл бұрын
When you watch all the weekly episodes from 1914 to last week and you have to till Thursday's now .... Great show keep up the great work!
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 6 жыл бұрын
Did the Anglo-Egyptian reconquest of the Sudan effect World War One?
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 6 жыл бұрын
An interesting but forgotten front
@VladTevez
@VladTevez 6 жыл бұрын
Next week will be a very sad week for comedy and for the channel...
@KKKKKKK777js
@KKKKKKK777js 6 жыл бұрын
No Cadorna! He was so young.
@karlkarlos3545
@karlkarlos3545 6 жыл бұрын
Is he going to be hotzendorfed?
@waltergiller8224
@waltergiller8224 6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 6 жыл бұрын
Why what is happening?
@grlt23
@grlt23 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe... just maybe... someone will have some cunning plan?
@officerchad1213
@officerchad1213 6 жыл бұрын
So close to the revolution
@nocapcanavan1064
@nocapcanavan1064 6 жыл бұрын
Preston Zhukov yep PREPARE FOR THE REVOLUTION!
@gunnerr8476
@gunnerr8476 6 жыл бұрын
I DEMAND MORE BREAD
@officerchad1213
@officerchad1213 6 жыл бұрын
Afnan Zahran and you shall get some peace and land too
@officerchad1213
@officerchad1213 6 жыл бұрын
Jon Baxter what are you taking about, daddy Lenin promised us peace
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 6 жыл бұрын
Can't have war if you kill everyone... taps forhead...
@johannesmaximilian848
@johannesmaximilian848 6 жыл бұрын
Listening to this while playing on Albion in BF1...
@dodecahedron7499
@dodecahedron7499 6 жыл бұрын
The power of Germany is truly remarkable. Had they somehow not had to fight on two fronts from the start I reckon they would have steamrolled all opposition.
@Kuhlfurst
@Kuhlfurst 6 жыл бұрын
Incredible that as late into the war as this there is no way to tell which side is winning.
@abbeberg6776
@abbeberg6776 6 жыл бұрын
Can you guys please do an episode when you talk about your ancestors that maybe fought in the first or second world war. Would be so intresting to hear since you have both the brittish and german sidan (Indy and Flo)!
@fritzorino
@fritzorino 6 жыл бұрын
Abbe Berg Isn't Indie American?
@Jack29245
@Jack29245 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, but he has said that one of his Grand Parents were British and fought in WW2. So it is possible that he had ancestors fight in WW1 too.
@fritzorino
@fritzorino 6 жыл бұрын
Vicky Illingworth Oh yeah now that you say it remember him saying that.
@Terror-sk9nj
@Terror-sk9nj 6 жыл бұрын
Indy answered about his family in WWI in an out of the trenches episode.... He knows very little.
@silas4lagoon776
@silas4lagoon776 6 жыл бұрын
This channel is why I love history!!!
@andreamagni8017
@andreamagni8017 6 жыл бұрын
A question: a Zeppelin try a bombing run on London and disappear on the Mediterranean Sea? Crossing all of France? That must have been a really strong wind!
@mblac19
@mblac19 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, they got the Zeppelin information quite wrong. Only 1 of the 11 airships in the raid attacked London, and that was an accident.
@Wyrmvonsturm
@Wyrmvonsturm 6 жыл бұрын
It wasn't an accident. L 45 was to bomb targets in Sheffield, but when it missed Sheffield was ordered south where it dropped some bombs on Northampton and continued on to London. It would later suffer from multiple mechanical failures, run out of fuel, and eventually crash land in Southeastern France near the town of Sisteron. L 50 would suffer similar issues, and also eventually end up in France. The commander, Roderich Schwonder would attempt to crash land the zeppelin near Dammartin but only succeed in ripping the control gondola away from the frame, which then blew away in the winds. 16 of the crew survived by jumping out or being in the gondola when it was ripped away, but 4 of them did not make it out of the craft. Without the weight of the gondola the zeppelin would eventually climb too high for French airplanes to shoot it down and it was left adrift in the wind. Ironically the crew of L 45, captured by French forces earlier in the day, spotted the Zeppelin as it drifted out of control high above them. L 50 was last seen over Frejus on the French coast, heading south and was not seen again. Some fisherman claim to have seen it coming down some 100 miles south of Frejus, but the final fate of the zeppelin is unknown.
@andreamagni8017
@andreamagni8017 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@El_Lanf
@El_Lanf 6 жыл бұрын
Indy, I salute you, you are the first American I have ever heard correctly pronouncing my hometown of Derby.
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. That Zeppelin raid was a clusterf*^k... The target was London, and all but one of them missed England ENTIRELY.
@paulweston4829
@paulweston4829 6 жыл бұрын
In another London raid, the "baby killers" again missed London and mistakenly bombed Hull; a city situated 300km away from London. So they must have had their best men on the job for that one, since they did at least hit the right country.
@mblac19
@mblac19 6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the crew got their information wrong. I added a writeup about the Zeppelin raid. Only 1 of the 11 zeppelins bombed London, and that was an accident. The raid was targeted at the Midlands of England and a lot of the industrial towns were hit.
@sammccullough1255
@sammccullough1255 6 жыл бұрын
Something tells me that this war would be over in 13 months.
@gunnerr8476
@gunnerr8476 6 жыл бұрын
You sure? Last time I checked the Germans make some badass steampunk tanks, and soon others do the same.
@liamjennings9160
@liamjennings9160 6 жыл бұрын
Something tells me Ludendorff seizes control of the German government, and finally defeats the Entente in 1920
@detectiveshaft9990
@detectiveshaft9990 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Conrad von Hotzendorf is finally going to make his great comeback soon, and win the war beautifully for the Central Powers. I can feel it in my bones!
@sonnydog830
@sonnydog830 6 жыл бұрын
Sam McCullough you sure? I'm preeetty sure it'll be over by Christmas...
@Autobotmatt428
@Autobotmatt428 6 жыл бұрын
Call the Canadians!
@MephLeo
@MephLeo 6 жыл бұрын
- Here are the Canadian Cohorts, Sir! SORRY! - Sorry for what? - No, Sir, sorry, this is our moto and war cry! - Oh... ok, carry on, then. - Sir, yes, Sir! Sorry for the confusion. - No problem. - SORRY!
@Canadian_Princess
@Canadian_Princess 6 жыл бұрын
Why? Do you want our maple syrup?
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 6 жыл бұрын
Vimy Ridge up in here
@uninterruptedrhythm4104
@uninterruptedrhythm4104 6 жыл бұрын
And then the Winged Canadians arrived! aka geese
@doubledouble4g379
@doubledouble4g379 6 жыл бұрын
It's also how we say 'hello' and 'goodbye' ;)
@AlanDeAnda1
@AlanDeAnda1 6 жыл бұрын
That amphibious landing was very interesting. Sadly for the germans was useless considering Russia is about to sign the armistice.
@The6thHouse427
@The6thHouse427 6 жыл бұрын
Alan De Anda well that was the the point is to end the war in that front
@AlanDeAnda1
@AlanDeAnda1 6 жыл бұрын
salty soda Yeah, but it seems that threathening St Petesburg wasn't very determinant for the armistice proposal. I mean, red october had outbreaked even with no Albion operation.
@MajinOthinus
@MajinOthinus 6 жыл бұрын
Alan De Anda Albion was meant to destabilise the russian governement and bring about it's downfall faster. It did that most splendidly.
@tjcassidy2694
@tjcassidy2694 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they'd thought of it in 1914.
@MajinOthinus
@MajinOthinus 6 жыл бұрын
TJ Cassidy Would've been useless; front to far away. They needed Riga for this operation to go ahead.
@yeast7485
@yeast7485 6 жыл бұрын
German Zeppelin Attack [GONE WRONG] [NOT CLICKBAIT]
@mblac19
@mblac19 6 жыл бұрын
The zeppelin attack was actually rather more successful than portrayed. I ended up writing an account of what The Silent Raid actually was.
@COCmcGameSupport
@COCmcGameSupport 6 жыл бұрын
Veeti Raussi nice
@TomSistermans
@TomSistermans 6 жыл бұрын
Germany is that really efficient guy at work who is for some reason addicted to N2O. He's doing a great job and all but those gas-filled tanks are getting to his head...
@Marinealver
@Marinealver 6 жыл бұрын
Did Haig or anyone in great Britain took note of the successful German landings, or was Haig still in his dreamland thinking he was going to cavalry charge through the western fortifications?
@karlkarlos3545
@karlkarlos3545 6 жыл бұрын
Depressing. If people really wanted to "learn from history" they should study more WWI and less WWII.
@versace6609
@versace6609 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah but why should we learn less about WWII? People died in that war too. I think both topics should be taught equally
@EnigmaEnginseer
@EnigmaEnginseer 3 жыл бұрын
World War 2 and World War 1 are closely intertwined. To ignore one in favor of the other is stupid
@karlkarlos3545
@karlkarlos3545 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnigmaEnginseer To ignore the difference is stupid. Especially when it comes to Germany. Maybe you look up how many jewish people fought on the German site in WWI.
@IanKath
@IanKath 6 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to Team Cartography for the excellent map in this episode. I can see my Patreon pennies in use.
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын
So Operation Albion was the first ever successful amphibious operation in history. How interesting. I need to study this operation further. Great job.
@defdandef5841
@defdandef5841 6 жыл бұрын
3 weeks left till the greatest revolution begins !
@gerrymcweeneygerrymcweeney8775
@gerrymcweeneygerrymcweeney8775 6 жыл бұрын
i started at the beginning a few weeks ago and have just caught up, love the show 👊🏻
@nostradamusofgames5508
@nostradamusofgames5508 6 жыл бұрын
you know whats both sad and frustrating? in these past weeks military commanders finally care about their men's lives.
@Gunmasterx7
@Gunmasterx7 6 жыл бұрын
patrick Katalenas After so many years... to bad it's already to late for some.
@Onebadterran
@Onebadterran 6 жыл бұрын
It's because they are running out of men
@nostradamusofgames5508
@nostradamusofgames5508 6 жыл бұрын
obviously
@user-py5gc5dn7t
@user-py5gc5dn7t 6 жыл бұрын
I wish we got more information of the other fronts but I understand it's probably hard to translate the bulgarian,romanian and turkish sources
@John-Ginger
@John-Ginger 6 жыл бұрын
Dont forget when there is a lot of activity they will go back in time slightly to talk about attack on a small scale
@x999uuu1
@x999uuu1 6 жыл бұрын
They try their hardest for other fronts. There's a pretty big potential that the other fronts are quiet right now too.
@noth3451
@noth3451 6 жыл бұрын
It will be over by Christmas -Kaiser Wilhelm II
@noth3451
@noth3451 6 жыл бұрын
Leon King it was over by Thanksgiving
@podemosurss8316
@podemosurss8316 6 жыл бұрын
Didn't mention Christmas of which year...
@paulx7540
@paulx7540 6 жыл бұрын
One of best features of this series is that it highlights actions by the Central Powers that may be overlooked in English language books on the Great War. Two recent examples are Operations Strandfest and Albion. I appreciate seeing the events explained from the Central Powers' perspective and am looking forward to hearing about the Austro-Hungarians on the Alpine front.
@shawnmeboy
@shawnmeboy 6 жыл бұрын
Love this channel, Indy!
@subbox1
@subbox1 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always!
@Dog.soldier1950
@Dog.soldier1950 6 жыл бұрын
These are better and better shows. Thanks
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 6 жыл бұрын
The numbers indeed boggle the mind. I take breaks from watching your show as after a while it just gets too depressing.
@yourdumpling9674
@yourdumpling9674 6 жыл бұрын
Great Channel Keep up the great work!
@jonahcotton3090
@jonahcotton3090 6 жыл бұрын
Always makes it interesting
@ThePols97
@ThePols97 6 жыл бұрын
Failures. We might hear more of this next week on the Italian front. HUGE failures
@reyxus9454
@reyxus9454 6 жыл бұрын
Cadorna never disappoint us
@NiskaMagnusson
@NiskaMagnusson 6 жыл бұрын
i never knew anything about operationm albion, or the tiny micro islands between Osel and Riga. It's always really cool watching this stuff :)
@alaingros1132
@alaingros1132 6 жыл бұрын
La guerre de 14/18 mérite bien son nom de "Grande Guerre".150.000 soldats hors de combat coté allemands 250.000 côté britannique.Rien qu'entre juillet et octobre 1917 ! Quelle bataille ! Et dans la boue, par dessus le marché... Bien sûr, la guerre de 1939/1945 ne m'a pas déçu vraiment. Elle fut longue et massacrante et je la tiens en haute estime. Mais je persiste à dire que ma guerre favorite, c'elle que je voudrais faire, c'est la guerre de 14/18. Et encore bravo pour ce remarquable programme.
@andreasmulen3171
@andreasmulen3171 6 жыл бұрын
good vids man
@senorbaste7207
@senorbaste7207 6 жыл бұрын
lit episode my man
@adrianlechner1937
@adrianlechner1937 6 жыл бұрын
It might be just me, but I think last weeks episode (The Great War Week 168) is missing in the "All videos from the great war - chronological order"-Playlist. Best regards, keep up the good work !!! Thanks a lot!
@abyssaljam441
@abyssaljam441 6 жыл бұрын
The end card is broken.
@DylanDude
@DylanDude 6 жыл бұрын
Bumping this up to increase its chances of being noticed.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын
...and it worked. :) Thanks for the info!
@abyssaljam441
@abyssaljam441 6 жыл бұрын
woo
@FrostySprite
@FrostySprite 6 жыл бұрын
Went to attack London, ended up over the Mediterranean... One hell of a gust of wind.
@gabespiro8902
@gabespiro8902 Жыл бұрын
3:59 “Doug, you mind if I have my troops back? You don’t seem to be making much use of them”
@Mikno21
@Mikno21 6 жыл бұрын
I am waiting for the next week :D
@ironvader502
@ironvader502 6 жыл бұрын
If I am not mistaken, Operation Albion was also the first (and probably only) combat use of the Bayern & Baden, Germanys 2 brand-new Bayern-Class Battleships.
@mblac19
@mblac19 6 жыл бұрын
I've got some serious quibbles over the section regarding the Zeppelin raid of October 19th, 1917. 8:24-8:47 in the video. tl;dr: Basically you got most of it wrong. Sorry. I love the show! Ok, breaking this into two parts for those who are interested. Part 1: What you got wrong. Part 2: The context and implications of THE SILENT RAID (spooky noises). I'm a PhD student in a geography department who does a lot of historical work around the war and a lot of the specific source material for this critique comes from Wilbur Cross' book, "Zeppelins of World War One." PART ONE: 1. "A German Zeppelin raid goes wrong. 11 of them attack London." The raid's target was *not* London but the industrial centers of the midlands. One Zeppelin, L-45, did in fact bomb London after being forced south by high altitude winds, and did a surprising amount of damage. The other 10 zeppelins did NOT bomb London. Some of the targets that they did hit include: Birmingham, Longridge's Austin Motor Works (which made the mistake of leaving the lights on, thinking they were too far to be a target), Walcott, Ruston, Wittering Aerodrome, Holbeach, Spaulding, Kemsworth, Hertford, Waltham, Derby, Nottingham, and others. Also, the raid was originally planned for 13 ships but 2 were unable to successfully take off. 2. "But four are blown off course by sudden strong winds." Meteorology was much worse back then and there was a freak gale storm blowing at high altitudes and screwing everything up. The Luftshiffe leader, Peter Strasser, went anyway, and they didn't know about the high altitude winds until it was too late to stop. Strasser originally thought the raid a great success, talking about how they successfully dropped 40 tons of bombs on England despite the gales. Of the 11 ships, almost all of them were blown off course, and most failed to return to their original bases--but that happened a lot with all flight in the Great War. 3 Zeppelins returned by flying over the neutral Netherlands (oops). 1 successfully over flew the western front, escaping fighters and ground fire, before crash-landing in central Germany. That ship, the L-55, reached a height of 24000 feet during its escape, setting a record that wasn't surpassed by any other airship up until at least WW2. 3 ships made it back without serious damage, if not to their original bases. 4 Zeppelins were lost. Of those 4, while all were navigationally lost, only *1* could really be said to have been lost due to the winds. 3 of them just were "lost" and were flying under the ridiculously low altitude of 5000 feet right over the heart of the western front when dawn broke. 3. About the 4 ships that were lost... That requires a lot of unpacking. One ship was shot down by french anti-air ground fire. This would be the L-44. It didn't figure out it was lost until the french started shooting at it. It tried to evade but to no avail, and it caught fire, broke into two pieces, and came down in a flaming hell. One ship the french took intact: This would be the L-49. It was attacked by five neuport fighters from Escadrille 152 under Flight Lt. Lefevre (who packed his big-boy pants that day and did the wholly unprecedented in capturing intact L-49). Being at that low altitude, the planes were able to get above it, where they shot tracers repeatedly over the top of the L-49 every time it tried to rise to escape. Kapitain Gayer was forced to choose: either he could land, or he could keep flying until the french started to run low on fuel, at which point he was certain they would just go ahead and shoot him down. After watching the L-44 die in flames, Gayer decided. He landed. Gayer did manage to destroy sensitive documents before they landed, but as 3 fighters landed right with him, he had no time to destroy his ship, beyond trying intentionally to land hard and cause some damage. The L-49 became one of the most valuable "prizes" captured in the war and the USA made as close to exact of a copy as they could, which became the ill-fated US Navy Airship Shenandoah. "One ship crash-landed," "one vanished over the Mediterranean never to be seen again": Ok, this needs context. I'd say TWO ships crash-landed. First up, the L-50 is the ship that vanished. Sorta, kinda, not really. The L-50 initially escaped attack when L-44 and L-49 were taken. It got into heavy clouds and got even more lost. Finally the clouds broke and the L-50 saw an airship on the ground. Captain-Lt. Schwonder decided he must have made it back to Germany and brought his ship down under 500 feet. Unfortunately for him, this was the captured intact L-49. Being that low, he started taking a ton of ground fire and did an emergency climb. Again, unfortunately, when you emergency climb a ship that is 600 feet long and you're less than 500 feet of altitude, you smack your ass against a bunch of tall trees/ground, smashing up your ship. The main gondola and much of the engines and superstructure were smashed & ripped off by the impact which supposedly involved a roll-over style accident. The HULL of his ship, the 'balloon' rocketed back into the sky without all the heavy stuff attached. 4 men were in the keel and upper machine gun positions. This busted up remnant with the 4 men got blown out to sea and was never seen again. The 19 men in the front positions & gondolas appear to have mostly survived, with injuries, and were captured. This brings us to the last of the lost ships on this raid, the L-45 under Captain-Lt. Kolle. In terms of damage and casualties, he probably was the most successful one in this raid, he's the one that was forced over London. He did lose an engine early, and several more later. He'd made the decision early on to try for Switzerland & internment but continued to have wind troubles. He witnessed the low-altitude deaths of the 3 other airships which were in formation. He was not navigationally lost as the other three seemed to be. Kolle tried to warn them, but communications failed. He was running out of fuel, and was in danger of being blown out to sea when he decided to try to crash-land in shallow water. Didn't make it to there either, finally crashing near Sisteron. Kolle did have the time and he successfully destroyed his airship and all of his crew's documents. Then, in a hilarious turn of events, Kolle was captured by the Germans. They were found by a German Sgt. Major who was a POW at a nearby camp. He told them the area was heavily patrolled because of the POW camp but that it was a nicer place than most camps, and maybe they should just all come with him to surrender at the camp since escape was so unlikely. Kolle and his krew's war was over. PART TWO: This raid was a big enough deal that it was given an actual name. It is known as "The Silent Raid." There's some debate over where the name started. Strasser, the Luftshiffe commander, planned the raid with super-class zeppelins which he thought would fly high enough that their engines wouldn't be audible from the ground without any equipment. A british Lt. Col. in the home guard running air defense, is also reported to have called it "the Silent Raid" because there were reports of explosions but nobody, not even the listening posts with gear, could hear Zeppelin engines. This wasn't so much because of the height but mostly because of the high-altitude winds drowning out the noise of the Maybach engines, even though lower altitude surface conditions were calm. While 10+ Zeppelins had been spotted visually coming over, the British had been unable to track them or verify the information, even after the first bombs were being dropped. Supposedly some folks even suggested that the explosions were grenade attacks from ground troops that had been snuck in to England since no engine noises could be heard. From Strasser's POV, the raid had a number of purposes. First, the Luftshiffe had taken 40% casualties by this point in the war and even an elite unit needed a morale boost. They took a lot of materials that could be better used elsewhere which was becoming clear with the acclamation that bomber planes attacking England and submarines resuming unrestricted warfare were getting. Strasser also had a number of new technological improvements that needed testing like better oxygen masks, engine improvements, new navigation techniques, and a new high altitude bombsight. New tactics to try to avoid the strongest air defenses and to out-fly the night fighters were also to be tried. So much new stuff was being tried that this is why the industrial parts of the Midlands was chosen as a target instead of London--which had the strongest defenses. Initially, Strasser was very pleased with the raid and thought it an incredible success, even with the crash-landing of L-55 since the raid did manage to drop 40 tons of bombs, and hit most of its targets despite the atrocious weather conditions. Then he found out about the 4 lost Zeppelins and the raid became much harder to call a total success. From the British POV, they suffered a bad terror attack, there were frantic worries about a "cloud-borne invasion" dumping infantry in the heart of England. From their perspective, they thought that the Zeppelins had come up with a new silent bombing technique involving high altitudes and turning off their engines (wrong). People had just been getting over their terror of the untouchable zeppelins when suddenly there was this big raid and not a single zeppelin was shot down by the British. At least two British night fighters did manage to intercept the raid, but both had to break off their attacks with jammed weapons before bringing down any of the Zeppelins. The raid did spark a new fear of Zeppelins, but from the German side of things, if the raid hadn't been a partial success the scarce resources would have been diverted from Zeppelins to much more effective uses.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын
+sleepyeyedboy well, as you might imagine we didn't read up in a specific zeppelin book about this since it's such a short segment. must from another secondary source that already shortened it down a lot
@stevenginsberg8471
@stevenginsberg8471 6 жыл бұрын
Q - When a Zeppelin raid over London got blown off course, did one actually "get lost over the Mediterranean"? That would be WAAAAY off course!
@michaelkfoury9467
@michaelkfoury9467 6 жыл бұрын
Can you guys do a special episode on the military songs of the war for example "Pack Up Your Troubles in Your Old Kit-Bag/It's a long way to tipperary" from the British and "Over There" from the Americans. It would also be cool to learn if the Germans, Austrians, Italians, Ottomans or, French had songs like these. P.S Thank you for the awesome videos that I always recommend my friends and teaches to watch.
@Szopen715
@Szopen715 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, did the Zeppelin that attacked London got blown by wind over Mediterranean Sea? That's quite a way! :O
@Geraduss
@Geraduss 6 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same.. that would be going from the English straits all the way over the entire country of France to get to the Mediterranean. Thats not short of quick, especialy for a Zeppelin.
@mblac19
@mblac19 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, they got the Zeppelin information quite wrong. Only 1 of the 11 airships in the raid attacked London, and that was an accident. I've added a write-up in the comments about the actual facts of the Zeppelin raid.
@mblac19
@mblac19 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, they got the Zeppelin information quite wrong. Only 1 of the 11 airships in the raid attacked London, and that was an accident. I've added a write-up in the comments about the actual facts of the Zeppelin raid.
@teukka5742
@teukka5742 6 жыл бұрын
Please make a who did what about Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim as he served in the Imperial Russian army back then! :)
@ilpazzo1257
@ilpazzo1257 6 жыл бұрын
I guess that will happen as soon we have Finland's Blaze of Glory
@ollikoskinen1
@ollikoskinen1 6 жыл бұрын
Couple more months...
@ryanmerlino1003
@ryanmerlino1003 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Indie and the Great War team, I have a question for out of the trenches, did stretcher bearers carry any form of arms or was the work load to large to do so? Keep up the Great Work!!! regards from Australia.
@oddballsok
@oddballsok 6 жыл бұрын
8:42 one vanished in a time warp hole to a parallel universe.... We can make a movie about this....
@daywalkersarkis3983
@daywalkersarkis3983 9 ай бұрын
How are they able to send so many men brave men to the death years of learning nothing still the same tactics? Why did the men call over the top? They stopped in Russia and pointed that guns at their officers, but after 2 million casualties such a waste of life it truly is lambs sending lions to their death.
@Daniiren
@Daniiren 6 жыл бұрын
How long has it been since Indy didn't start the week with some mention of chaos in Russia?
@diapason89
@diapason89 6 жыл бұрын
No need for a Halloween special. The battles here are scary enough.
@EvilMaleficus
@EvilMaleficus 6 жыл бұрын
Love this show!!!!1111oneoneone
@willkp50
@willkp50 6 жыл бұрын
looking forward to the episode on cambrai
@legrill2339
@legrill2339 6 жыл бұрын
Here comes the Capporeto!
@victortodea5263
@victortodea5263 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah!!!
@pk-zi7lm
@pk-zi7lm 5 жыл бұрын
haig whenever he has an offensive: GERMAN MORALE IS CRUMBLING AND WE'RE ON THE VERGE OF A BREAKTHROUGH!!! indy regarding every one of haig's offensives: "German morale was in fact not crumbling and a breakthrough was not going to happen'
@thomaswolf2896
@thomaswolf2896 6 жыл бұрын
Walter Flex was killed this week at Oesel, another notable casualty.
@katinthehat1420
@katinthehat1420 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Indy and Crew I dont know if you've done - or I missed it - an episode on the American Lost Battalion. It's an amazing tale of how a small group of a couple hundred American troops were surrounded by the German army, and not only able to hold out but were instrumental in the allied breakthrough in that zone. If an episode on this has already been posted hopefully someone can point me to it. Love what you guys are doing, I always look forward to your videos. P.S. there is a TV movie you can find on KZfaq that I highly recommend.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын
we follow ww1 week by week 100 years later
@xmaniac99
@xmaniac99 6 жыл бұрын
Next week will be interesting with the route at Caporetto. Will the front hold ? Will Cadorna be able to pull the 23rd offensive on the Isonzo river or will he be flayed and fed to the dogs ?
@MurfMan542
@MurfMan542 6 жыл бұрын
Hello indie and TGW team I've been a fan of the show for a while and eagerly look forward to each episode. I have a question for Out Of The Trenches. Were there any case's of dreadnoughts/battleships partaking in a land battle. I.e providing support for advancing troops or bombarding enemy positions before a battle. P.s thanks for such an excellent show.
@milanmilacic9311
@milanmilacic9311 6 жыл бұрын
Right I understand the concept of after the war everyone is a general but how did Haig not understand that cavalry won't do it
@theastrogamer710
@theastrogamer710 6 жыл бұрын
A question for out of the trenches were there any major revolts and rebellions in Europe. btw Keep up the amazing series.
@stevenjlovelace
@stevenjlovelace 6 жыл бұрын
There's a big one, arguably the biggest revolution of the 20th century, coming in a week or two.
@matiasmakinen5028
@matiasmakinen5028 6 жыл бұрын
Only ze mighty communistic one
@oddballsok
@oddballsok 6 жыл бұрын
you have been living under a stone..or are you younger than 9 ?
@theastrogamer710
@theastrogamer710 6 жыл бұрын
I know about the October revolution but that is a revolution not a revolt im talking about uprisings not political civil wars.
@Lionzvezdara78
@Lionzvezdara78 6 жыл бұрын
Actually the only uprising in the occupied Europe was the Toplica upirising in Serbia against Bulgarians and Austrohungarians. I believe it had been already covered in "Great War"
@budmeister
@budmeister 6 жыл бұрын
Did you see today's episode on Forgotten Weapons on the St. Entienne Mle 1907T Heavy Machine Gun?
@LuizAlexPhoenix
@LuizAlexPhoenix 6 жыл бұрын
Wait, the Germans can do amphibious landings? Preposterous! Germans couldn't even cross a small pond between Baguette land and Tea Land!
@dorkmax7073
@dorkmax7073 6 жыл бұрын
This map is insane on BF1
@1415J
@1415J 6 жыл бұрын
Haig is now in serious competition with Conrad von Hötzendorf and Luigi Cadorna,
@mortman200
@mortman200 6 жыл бұрын
To rate battles by their casualty numbers is really reductive (Not saying that that is what Indy and Co. are doing, mind you). While battles like the Somme, or Verdun or Brusilov have higher numbers of dead than Passchendaele, that doesn't diminish the horrific toll that any battle exacts. It's one thing to blow through a million casualties on a massive front like the Brusilov offensive, but it is another thing entirely to concentrate similar numbers in a small patch around a series of forts or across a narrow bog.
@Milos89kv
@Milos89kv 6 жыл бұрын
Question for OOTT Can it be said at this point in time where the show is now (October 1917) which side has the upper hand and better prospects of winning? Have we reached a point where the end can be seen on the horizon, or can it still go either way? Thank you for the Great 3 years, keep up the good work!
@Rickinsf
@Rickinsf 6 жыл бұрын
Indy...why don't you do a tour of the artifacts on set?
@wojszach4443
@wojszach4443 6 жыл бұрын
[tributary for great hegemon of wisdom sitting on wisdom throne] can you tell us a bit about Tadeusz Rozwadowski during first world world war and his artilery inventions.
@rogerhwerner6997
@rogerhwerner6997 5 жыл бұрын
Have to give great credit to Canada, ANZAC, and South Africa! In spite of their modest populations and distance to the front, these four nations provided some of the best soldiers for a war that really had little impact on their individual countries. That these countries always met their troop commitments and these troops almost always fought with distinction.
@erik8467
@erik8467 6 жыл бұрын
We're so close to the revolution!!
@CaptainHaddocck
@CaptainHaddocck 6 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a "Denmark during WW1" it would be interesting cause many Danes fought under German flags due to the the losses of territory during the Danish-German war if 1864
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын
we did two weeks ago
@ThePackman627
@ThePackman627 6 жыл бұрын
Favorite map in BF1
@matshagglund3550
@matshagglund3550 5 жыл бұрын
Most of people are misleadingly comparing German military losses (1.9-2.0 military deaths) to those of British, French, Canadians, Australians, Belgium and American (total 2.7-2.8 million) and claiming then to have been quite even. However when huge majority of Allied losses were in Western Front only slight majority of German losses were in west. For instance in 1914 German military deaths were higher in Eastern Front than in west. Besides Germans used lots of war effort and took heavy losses in Balkans too.
@ColTravis
@ColTravis 6 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that neither of Germany's two Marine Divisions (Marine-Korps Flandern) or any of there subordinate units were involved in Operation Albion.
@Peatman
@Peatman 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing more consistent than the outcome of the Battles of the Isonzo is Haig's insistence that German morale is crumbling and that a breakthrough is imminent.
@sgf0013
@sgf0013 6 жыл бұрын
@the great war nice khukuri you got there
@metoo5867
@metoo5867 6 жыл бұрын
Another good video, keep up the good work Were their any American ground unit like the Lafayette squadron before Uncle Sam’s official entry? Could you do a report on the light railroad (sorry railway) supply system? Grandpa was an American railroad clerk What are the items on your desk? Bye (fingers tired)😜
@KenshiroPlayDotA
@KenshiroPlayDotA 6 жыл бұрын
Hi TGW ! Question for Out of the Trenches; was there some reusing and recycling policies during WW1? I'm asking this question because with the level of ammunition expenditure, you're bound to have mountains of spent casings, especially from artillery shells, and in the week 169 episode, I noticed French soldiers handling empty shell casings to fill a freight car. Keep up the Great Work !
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын
can you submit this here: outofthetrenches.thegreatwar.tv
@Isildun9
@Isildun9 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, Field Marshal Haig. Between him, Hotzendorf, Cadorna, and Nivelle, it shows that if nothing else, a total pigheaded unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
@j_geau
@j_geau 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Indy and the Great War team, will you guys be covering the Halifax explosion in December either in the weekly episode or as a special?
@j_geau
@j_geau 6 жыл бұрын
Indiana Neidell ok, cool!
@doorexplore1477
@doorexplore1477 6 жыл бұрын
In the Name of the Tsar
@GLowMt
@GLowMt 6 жыл бұрын
1:03 derp
@Asdff-vl8tj
@Asdff-vl8tj 6 жыл бұрын
9:57 nice! And your german skills gets better and better (names). And I think I dont need to say anything to the map Like :)
@iwatchDVDsonXbox360
@iwatchDVDsonXbox360 3 жыл бұрын
5:37 von Cool 😁
@larswesterlund8499
@larswesterlund8499 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Indy. It seams like the subtitels are forgotten in this episode.
@Eric0816
@Eric0816 6 жыл бұрын
There needs to be a movie about the ghost Zeppelin "The Flying German".
@AndrewVaughanOfficial
@AndrewVaughanOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
So when the Germans attacked by land, sea, and air, what was the "air"? Was it Zepplins, or aircraft? Did they hand drop bombs on their biplanes? I'm curious to see what they did.
@MajinOthinus
@MajinOthinus 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Vaughan It were mostly ship deploied seaplanes and navy airships used for spotting though some may have carried some bombs.
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