there's only one thing i care about within this topic, when do i get to play these games on the TV.

Being fire is good or bad?

It's not nearly as controversial as Let's Go and Sword and Shield

@@maximumbeans9310 Thx (:

ORAS has Faries, Resuable TMs and better characters. And my favourite Pokémon Sylevon and Greninja

I would say ORAS does most things better then Emerald really and is overall better then Emerald.

Both games have things that they do better than the other. I would personally rather replay ORAS, but Emerald is good too.

@@jaretco6423 lol that's the reason I like hoenn so much. You don't go to a place just once and never go comeback anymore, like in Sword/Shield. It's so nice to backtrack, this makes the cities and places more alive and real, not a place that exists only to you battle a gym or get a item and fades in inexistence afterwards

​@@jaretco6423 Hoenn is design very smartly. You may need to go back to a place two or three times during the playthrough, but the routes are so conected to each other that you don't need go walk so much to go to a place to another. Everything feels so natural e fluid. For exemple, if you are in Rustboro and need to go Slateport, you have the option to go through Rusturf Tunnel and take the cycling road after Mawville or you can go south through Rustboro Woods, pass Rustboro city and take Route 103 by surfing and you will be just north of Slateport. You can also be creative and reach Slateport throught the aquatic route that begins in Route 104 left Petalburg City and surf across Dewford city and Abandoned Ship. If you're in Rustboro City again and you wanna go to the Desert in route 111, you can go to Rusturf Tunnel again, go north in Mawvile and use rock smash in route 111. You can also go north and pass through Meteor Falls and Fallabor Town before getting to route 111. If you are in Lillycove City and wanna get to Slateport you can surf all the way Pacifidlog Town and go left to the rapid currents or you can take route 121, and go south in Mt. Pyre and reach the baeach near Mawville City and then go south. What I mean is if you only had one option like in a hallway design reagion, backtracking would be kinda boring, but Hoenn has so many choices on how you can go to point A to point B, that walk throught the routes and cities is a delight. In fact, in Hoenn I almost never use fly, just for the sake of running freely in the region

Yeah I'm always torn on which to play when I wa t to revisit hoenn. One day its jist going to come down to my emerald version not working anymore, the battery has already run dry too.

10/10 comment

would've so perfect if it had battle frontier and the original difficulty GF is so lazy after Gen 5...

@@eltornado7777 They really added online battles, Pokémon interaction (Amie), a whole new post game and soaring all for you guys to say boo I want to battle the same though guys over again

@@thischannelisinactiveimsor9500 I enjoyed playing ORAS alot lol juz GF could've really made it more perfect instead of rushing every games after Gen 5 soaring in Hoenn is literally like one of the most awesome feature in the game too

For me it’s slightly inferior than Emerald, but overall still a pretty solid remake(Delta episode is my favorite part of ORAS though)

Eh well there is a lot of pokemon emerald rom hacks.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it came back in a let’s go style one day

Probably a legends rayquaza might come

That and Pokémon Z lmfao

It will but you have to wait for many years.

He did Acerola and Mina I assume?

The sword and shield charecters looked so boring and generic

Ruby was my first pokemon game too and ORAS was definitely a big nostalgic trip! I loved it overall but like JPR said, there were some issues. I definitely didn’t like that they cut Granite Cave so short, and it’s not SUPER important but the Abandoned Ship was such a cool area to explore and I don’t understand why they changed it to Sea Mauville. I still love these games though and they are definitely overhated. However, they’re not perfect by any means, but still very fun and enjoyable 😊

i remember getting this game when i was 7, now my 3ds is broken and ill never be able to say goodbye to the game i loved so much, i get a full on tsunami of nostalgia when i watch these videos or think of this game

@@sqibbley8053 if you have a somewhat decent PC you’ll be able to emulate it! Look it up!

@@sqibbley8053Same man except mine burnt along with my house in a forest fire 😢

Ruby was my first pokemon game that was my own. before that my brother and me took turns playing sliver. I remember how cool it was to not have to share a pokemon game and focus on playing the game all the way through. I rember trying to win all of the prizes in the game corner. I never got to play emerald sadly and kinda hoped that ORAS was gonna be all the content

XY is still to this one of my first favorable games, ORAS is second favorite

​@@SpectacleSpark XY is fun but having recently come back to play X again, its really lacking. Too easy is a big issue. 3 pokemon per gym leader and only 4 for elite four is insulting. and the postgame content was underwhelming af. but they added some great stuff, like megas, new awesome mons, wondertrade, etc

@@ShadeStormXD Tbf I'm someone who has a hard time getting through games due to mental disabilities on progressing sadly, I think the game was pretty hard itself back then when I was a child but because I overleveled my pokemon of course it was gonna be a breeze. Honestly the game is only easy if you make it easy.

Aaaand they are surfing on Pokémon, just like the player!

I agree. ORAS was perfect*

They are remakes of ruby and sapphire not emerald stop crying about the battle frontier it wasn't in ruby and sapphire

@@stewartcrislip7274 the Rayquaza quest also wasn’t in ruby and sapphire, also both teams are involved like in emerald, so which is it? Only ruby and sapphire? Or all three games?

And they oversaturated with shiny, legendary events. the legendary encounters were lazy. Other than that i would put that game above the newer pokemon games today.

@@Brain_Food- shiny events? Gen two had the shiny event. And the legendary encounters were anything but lazy lol, if anything they were a bit convoluted

This^ They could've just went with the logic "just because megas weren't in the games doesn't mean they weren't there canonically". Instead of just making a bunch of multiverses (with hoopa and megas) all they had to do was go with anime logic: just because ash didn't have megas in the original series doesn't mean that happened in an AU. With hoopa just give his portals access to anywhere in the world and maybe even the distortion world, nothing more.

At least Pokemon has a fairly good excuse for it (a weapon powerful enough to rip the one universe into two separate universes is MUCH more badass than the alternate universes just being... Introduced. With no explanation as to how they got there.)

@TrainerblueTube Two. I didn’t really mind the level down though. Made incentive to get voltorb and magnemite to fill up the dex.

SwSh makes you appreciate other games more, but tbh it's your fault If you use the EXP share and complain about game difficulty.

Emerald is the *complete* story of Hoenn. That is why Delta Emerald was 100% the way to go with Hoenn remakes... but money money

Honestly, I hate dealing with both Team Magma & Aqua because it slows the game down and I thought the whole story plot progression was absolutely stupid & meaningless. Like if u know that the world would be doomed with only dry lands or sea, than what's was the point of doing it? Where are we gonna live in our life's? How are we gonna survived without land or water? It's almost like nothing happen & totally wasted my time. I can appreciate Gen. 3 for having an main story jounrey in an Pokemon and I get what they're trying to do. But they could've done an alot better. It's really stupid IMO.

I don't even know why people found the Delta Episode to be so magnificent. Including me , I thought it was the entire episode was coolest thing ever and after doing it again, I can't for the life of me understand why.

Introduced a character that people like, introduced one of the best ost’s ever made, gave you a rayquaza and introduced its mega form and you ride into a meteor to then fight deoxys and maybe catch it too. It wasn’t that long but it was a good reward for those to made it through the game.

@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Yes but that's just the climax. The rest (and majority) of the delta episode was boring AF. Of course I do recognise its good points, but the vast majority of it was uncreative and overall a pain in the ass. Anyway, I appreciate the lore it brought to the series.

@@castform7 it’s because you ride a giant dragon into space to fight a space Pokemon Heck being able to challenge and catch a deoxys makes it fantastic

@@metaknight7117 Yes but when does that happen? At the end. The rest of the Delta Episide was boring and just a bunch of reading. I'm not gonna call it good just cause the last ten minutes were enjoyable.

Same

Definitely better than swore and chield thisis my first pokemon game so its my favorite but i understand why people not like it it is just my first game.

I'm gonna be honest. I didn't think Emerald was that great either. They're OK. But there far better Pokemon games than Emerald.

I never owned Emerald and I keep wondering that if I did would I have liked Emerald more than these games.

Loved how the dex nav also uses the original game boy tile sets for areas you're in.

@@jaretco6423 nope emerald is great than platinum and black white

@Sandra I disagree. I think Platinum & the Black & White Duology are far better than Emerald.

Ik this is from awhile ago, But OR was my first Pokémon game, it’s just so nostalgic for me. I genuinely think of it as the best Pokémon game, every time I go to fight Steven I get flashbacks of his terrifyingly strong mega metagross. Wallys amazing theme and powerful gallade. It’s just such a good game.

Its not as easy as XY, but it isnt as hard as the original

Absolutely agreed. I wish someone would make a difficulty romhack for ORAS some day. Not as hard as something like Radical Red, but a bit tougher than Emerald and Platinum would be perfect.

@@mr.preston1632 tbh it's almost as piss easy as XY. with Exp Share on and zero grinding I was 10-12 levels above Elite 4 in XY and 8-10 levels above Elite 4 in ORAS

@@charliez077 Thats subjective, I found the Games not too hard, but not too easy and thats coming from the person who used a full team of megas

That's honestly a problem with every remake and bdsp is gonna have the same problem. The new moves, learnsets and convenient mprovements make the remakes more of a breeze.

Small emerald changes like the gym leader rematches, improved gym leader teams, mirage tower etc could’ve made it in. They didn’t have to ignore everything emerald brought to the table. HGSS just about has everything that GSC has and more making them the definitive johto games. Heck they recreated the original GSC soundtrack for a post game reward even some areas that didn’t exist in the originals got 8bit remixes. That alone is a lot of effort. Then there was the completely unnecessary pokewalker that was included with every copy of the game. Idk I feel like HGSS had a bit more effort then ORAS imo. ORAS are better then Ruby and Sapphire but ORAS vs Emerald is debatable. While HGSS is no doubt the best johto experience you can have.

@@CEDL0W Here is where I will disagree on Emerald being the definitive experience. Emerald made the story far more messy and even messes up the atmosphere a bit. They tried to squeeze two teams into a one team storyline that was created with Sapphire's story beats in mind first and foremost. Team Magma gets the main set piece in the story, the Mount Chimney fight. This, combined with their quick appearance at Meteor Falls immediately before, their base coming before Team Aqua's, and the Mossdeep Space Center fight that was added just for Emerald, the game gives the impression that you see much more of them than Team Aqua, even Battling with Maxie 3 separate times while Archie is only battled once. The two teams feel unbalanced, because the story was only ever meant to feature one as the antagonist. And because you battle Maxie and watch him awaken Groudon in the Magma base, the game no longer makes sense. The world isn't allowed to be in crisis until after the seafloor cavern, so you awaken Groudon and...Nothing happens. You go to the Aqua base, beat Matt, surf to Mossdeep, beat a gym, fight Maxie *AGAIN*, surf out to the seafloor cavern, fight your way to Archie and fight him for *THE ONE AND ONLY TIME*, he wakes up Kyogre, and then, *SUDDENLY* Groudon's drought is also affecting the world? Also, because Rayquaza now has to be involved, the atmospheric trek down to the bottom of the cave of origin with the quakes signifying the thrashing about of the ancient pokemon you're about to face in the crystal lined room is gone, replaced by a single floor and a quick, meaningless conversation with Wallace that could have happened outside and only serves to highlight what was lost. You don't even need to be the one to go after Rayquaza, Wallace could have gone and been back in the time it takes you to get back out of the cave and fly after him. Your involvement comes down to running through some dungeon floors and using fly a few times. It's boring and anticlimactic. And for those who would say that in RS the story just ends after you catch the Legendary, you can in fact fly to mount pyre and see Maxie or Archie returning the orb and talk to him, as well as choose to return your own orb. As far as other changes go, the battle tents are unnecessary and having them replace the contest halls means most berries don't have a use until almost the end of the game, lessening the overall experience of all the features Hoenn has to offer. The Mirage Tower was also an unnecessary addition, it just makes it more annoying to choose a fossil, and their placement in the original games would have actually made more sense for where the other one ends up in the desert underpass. I don't know a single person who actually did anything in Trainer Hill. It's overshadowed by the Battle Frontier like the Battle Tents, and is little more than a glorified Pokemon Center for most of the game. The only Gym Leader line-up changes that were actually worth carrying over were Wattson's and Tate&Liza's. The others added Pokemon that were little more than padding and didn't actually add anything to the fights. Winona's line up was downgraded by it, even. I will admit to the Gym Leader rematches being a worthwhile addition, though. Having the Underpass with the second fossil and ditto would have been nice too, but it's a small loss in the scheme of things. Also, having a Water Gym Leader right before a Water Champion. Steven Stone is more enjoyable to fight in the final room. All in all, of the original three, Sapphire actually makes the most sense story and pacing wise, and while Emerald had some great additions, it also messed a little too much with what was good about the first two. And by that metric, Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire did a much better job clearing up and expanding upon the original story than Emerald did. They also add all the mechanical improvements that have come about in subsequent years making more Pokemon viable to use and the game overall more convenient to play. They also have additions of their own, not the least of which is a school yard rumor come true, complete with fighting and capturing an eternally available Mythical Pokemon in *space.* They say a good remake is one you'd replay over the originals. Maybe that isn't true for most people, including you, and that's fine. You're entitled to your opinion. But to me, Alpha Sapphire is the definitive Hoenn experience, and not even Emerald's battle frontier can change that. They're good games, and they have every bit as much love and care and detail put into them as HGSS. You can deny it if you want, but it's true all the same.

I guess those remakes were faithful which matches well with Kanto and people liked it

That's a bit disingenuous, FR/LG added the Battle Tower, the Sevi Islands etc. So when you compare what Gen 1 started with, and what the Gen 3 remakes added it's by far a definitive improvement over those games. You can't really say the same for ORAS, yes new features are implemented. However overall, they take away far more than what they actually add.

@@markhunt9643 I said little to nothing. I never said Nothing at all. The remakes were inferior to the originals. Its just hypocritical how the fanbase glosses over its issues but yet they'll happily dogpile on ORAS which did a lot more than people give it credit for and didn't stop your Pokemon midway from evolving due to a problem with the game design. That's the disingenuous part. *Ahem*... Crobat for FRLG. Or the fact HGSS didn't fix the level curve.

Yup, best game ever

AS was what I picked. Krogre ftw

Another thing about Brendan was how much of a character he was. Be was cocky and borderline sexist toward May and in the remakes this is fleashed out more and comes to respect May after being put in his place. With that said May is terrible. Shes just a giggling waifu, which is a bit telling.

@@anothergamer112 Dude, I love May as a protagonist, she's my favorite part about Pokémon as a franchise, and the fact that out of the 2 she's the one that gets the worst end of the stick as a rival, only being used to be a pseudo romantic interest (just because, well, girl) and giving up on everything after her defeat in Lilycove is sad. I know how sexist Brendan can sound, literally offering to catch a pokemon for you right after admitting he expected you to be a boy, but at least he learns something, May stays the same.

Brendan wasn't really a sexist to my knowledge, especially not in the remakes. The whole "thought you'd be a boy" thing, yeah definitely but the offer to catch a Pokemon could be interpreted as a friendly offer to help you start on your journey since he does say he wants to be friends. I think he's already come to respect you by the end of your first battle at the latest as he treats you like a good friend on all of your encounters afterward. In ORAS, they even take out his most sexist line "I'm gonna fight your dad and unlike you he looks pretty tough". Even in RSE those moments were sparce and he treated you like a friend. I ORAS it's basically dead in the water. Not to say I have a problem with that. I really like the interactions with with the rival. As for May, specifically speaking with ORAS, I think she's fine. I really feel like you go from simple neighbours to best friends. I don't think it's a bad thing May stayed the same. Where she didn't grow your friendship did (same with Brendan just wanted to highlight it here). Whenever she came along I was increasingly happy to see her, as they appeared so much more in these remakes so you get to speak with them more. I really felt something when I came out of the hall of fame and saw May standing there waiting for me to go back with her. To me, she (and Brendan) was a good friend that only got better with each encounter. That's just my opinion on the 2.

@@castform7 That's a good take, and yeah, my problem is not exactly at their interactions, it's just that as characters May specially feels really shallow, and hey, Wally was way more interesting but ended up wasted sadly. And I honestly would think higher of Brendan/May interactions if only the characters had an actual growth or didn't stayed dead after the D.E.

@@marka.t.s.8344 Yeah I kind of have a bit of a problem with Wally. He was improved in the remakes but you still only have two battles with him. I would've liked to see his team make progress a bit instead of the wimpy Ralts in Mauville to an almost full team and mega Gallade but what can you do? As for May and Brendan yeah wished they had a bit more to them. The "end" to the rivalry battle and final scene in ORAS at route 103 after you become champion was really nice and made me smile but they don't do much like usual. Nothing in the D.E. One "date" at the end. And then their just bumming at their house while Wally and you go to the Battle Resort. They talk about completing the Hoenn dex and they seem to enjoy field research. Maybe they're helping Birch more with research on Pokemon habitats and raising and are working on raising Pokemon. That's the best thing I can think of for these 2.

Mine to actually next to usum theres a story for that

difficulty and the Battle Frontier - yes, pretty much the only (but major) faults about ORAS, otherwise it would be a perfect remake

Am I the only person that doesn't care about the Battle Frontier? I found it to be repetitive and boring.

@@jaretco6423 it may not be for everyone - but for us who like a challenge and competitive battling, trust me, Emerald Battle Frontier is one of the (if not THE) best experience(s) of all pokemon games.

Charlie. Eh. More power to u if u enjoy it. But personally, I prefer the Pokemon World Tournament, White Treehollow or Black Tower or any battle facilities over the Battle Frontier anyday. They're way more fun & aren't boring for me.

@@jaretco6423 I love all those facilities you mentioned too, also the very underrated Pokéstar Studios. how someone doesn't love Battle Frontier (Pyramid, Factory or Pike are awesome and there is SO much versatility a player can choose from) is beyond me but to each their own ;-)

Exactly. Not everyone cares about the Battle Frontier. I played Emerald when it came out and honestly as a kid I never even spent much time doing the Battle Frontier. Still not fussed about battling after all these years

I always thought zinnia was supposed to be out of her mind. She seems to be having a mental breakdown the entire game, she wildly dances in battle, and is constantly talking about having lost someone. That was kind of how I justified her acting so crazy, because she was meant to be going crazy.

did you mean fool proof? sorry that just bothered me. anyway aside from that i agree. the delta episode is badly written and is mostly just a bunch of talking broken up by a few battles. the best part was fighting Wallace with his Emerald team, but frankly they could have just made gym leader rematches a thing for all leaders and done that anyway. I don't even think the end is that cool, the rayquaza cutscene is just kinda silly and im not sure why people are so hyped by it.

@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 Oh woops. I always thought it was full proof but fool proof is definitely how you say it. It is now edited and corrected. But yeah, the Delta episode isn't all it's cracked out to be. It probably would've been better if they just brought the stuff from Emerald. I kind of understand why people think riding on the back Rayquaza to stop a meteor is cool but I also understand why people think it's stupid.

Sounds like you're meant to hate zinnia

Nah I will die on this hill to defend the Delta Episode it greatly expanded the world building of Pokémon by introducing different timelines and dimensions, it made it so you could fight Wallace again, you fight Deyoxus (bad spelling) a previously event only Pokémon in space while using Raquaza which is what all the gen 3 fans wanted because before the remakes they believed that you could go to space in Emerald kinda like how people believed in the Mew being hidden in the truck thing, if you wanna have a more challenging Zinna fight switch out Raquaza and use the other 5 Pokémon in your team nobody is stopping you, and you get to see Raquaza destroy a meteor.

HGSS and the Black & White duology are probably the best examples of that I think has an perfected post-game content. It's not just like doing Battle Frontier in one big area ( Though unpopular opinion. But I don't care about the Battle Frontier. ) There's more to explore, battle trainers, compete other battle facilities ( which I consider to be better than the Battle Frontier. ) and other stuff to continue your quest.

Eh, even with BDSP existing, I'm still very disappointed with ORAS. A lot of changes they made were unnecessary and they cut a huge chunk of content out. I really wish they just updated the original Magma and Aqua character designs instead of completely changing them. I always found that really annoying. I wish there were a truly definitive way to experience Hoenn and ORAS isn't even close to that.

Good somebody said it. I'm sorry but as good as Emerald is in theory I will never go back to that game because so many Pokemon can't use S.T.A.B well as the split had yet to happen.

@@THGMR-ox7sd "Shows screenshots with NPC town inhabitants from Platinum"

Not even a comparison tbh. Bdsp somehow looks worse than the ds games

Orignal were trash bdsp better

Because the lack of a BF is more apparent and has no excuse for not being in the game.

Mightyena is awesome! Hope he gets some love some day

Platinum & HGSS. I agree. Emerald? Ehhhh. It's ok-aish. Nothing amazing.

Still later than usual.

probably the generation 6 review video