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Overthinking It: Solas & Fear Demon (Dragon Age: Inquisition)

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MAIN PLOT AND STORY SPOILERS!!! Elvhen is a hell of a language. Trying to make sense of the conversation between Solas and the Fear Demon, while adding my thoughts (and my bad accent) along the way.
In regards to the Darkspawn/Blight references: it is JUST my theory.
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@ianhogan1306
@ianhogan1306 9 жыл бұрын
"Tell me, Trickster, did your victory amount to anything? Your pride will be your death."
@Ladyinsanity
@Ladyinsanity 9 жыл бұрын
I had someone on another site tell me "this was the translation" (in a grossly disturbing attitude, but whatever). However, according to its translation in the book, "din" is not the verb of being dead, but the actual dead. I stuck to its translation as a noun. "Amounting to anything" felt like it was stretching banal's meaning, as it was declarative and also doesn't have that context when used. That's why I mentioned the Inquisitor's quote in Elvhen when she breaks up with Solas. It doesn't have that "amounting to anything" context, but actually states an amount. Not sure if that makes sense, but it already has weight. It wasn't a question, in my mind.
@ottokylanlahti8930
@ottokylanlahti8930 9 жыл бұрын
jedisenior You sure? Or did Flemeth take his body?
@ottokylanlahti8930
@ottokylanlahti8930 9 жыл бұрын
Well, good for you. I'm not too sure about it. :/
@ottokylanlahti8930
@ottokylanlahti8930 9 жыл бұрын
I have to try that next time. What does he say that makes the communication a proof of his ''soul stealing''?
@ottokylanlahti8930
@ottokylanlahti8930 9 жыл бұрын
Ok, convincing enough. Not much has changed though, instead of fearing Flemeth I now fear Solas...
@Ladyinsanity
@Ladyinsanity 3 жыл бұрын
2020 EDIT: I made this video in 2014. 9 months ago, Patrick Weekes revealed the true translation. Here it is: - Demon: “Your pride is responsible for everything that has gone wrong; you will die alone” - Solas: “Nothing is known for certain / Not necessarily”
@kamenrideraquarius
@kamenrideraquarius 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe Solas created the blight as a result of creating the veil, the technician magisters went to the black city to find a way to end it, well the taint, and thus came the Darkspawn, the chantry is half right
@stars-and-clouds
@stars-and-clouds 3 жыл бұрын
Might be noteworthy: Solas' stone in the fade said his fear is 'dying alone'
@jmpm-tz1so
@jmpm-tz1so 2 жыл бұрын
@@stars-and-clouds for someone who's fear is dying alone he really does try to be alone a lot (specially if you romance him) pretty dumb or pretty brave if you ask me
@stars-and-clouds
@stars-and-clouds 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmpm-tz1so he's alone bc he has to be. He has a difficult task to, well, destroy the current world and if he gets attached (like he does in the romance) he might give up on his task. He hunts at this in trespasser to a romanced lavallen. That's why he stays alone, to stay focused, he's not dumb nor is he brave. He's actually quite cowardly imo. He's also from another era altogether, perhaps he feels alien and alone in general bc of the generation gap between everyone around him. You need to remember he woke up only a year before the events of inquisition happen. He has every reason to be alone and that's why he's scared.
@jmpm-tz1so
@jmpm-tz1so 2 жыл бұрын
@@stars-and-clouds good point
@zeerae630
@zeerae630 4 жыл бұрын
Odd thought, possibly a wordier version of what was intended. "Tell me, trickster. When the blight is victorious, what good is your pride to the dead?"
@Sagefox
@Sagefox 9 жыл бұрын
This is my translation. Demon: "You know, trickster. You are without victory. Your pride appears to be your end." Solas: Nothing is a must
@gasmanoo
@gasmanoo 7 жыл бұрын
You know, for a demon not revealing Solas´s and Blackwall´s identities was pretty courteous of him.
@TheLastWanderingBard
@TheLastWanderingBard 7 жыл бұрын
When this video first released, I left a comment detailing my own interpretation/translation of the line. Somebody just replied to my comment which is why I've thought about this scene again now and decided to comment again. What I think is really neat (and I guess mindblowing if I'm correct) is that we can re-interpret the fear demon line in light of what we now know of Solas' plan at the end of Trespasser, which shows some great foresight from the writers. So we all understand Solas was just using the Inquisition to get the orb to carry out his plan yes? And his plan, despite the destruction of the orb, still entails taking down the veil, rejoining the physical world with the Fade (regardless of the wanton destruction and death it will cause, particularly to others but even possibly to the elves too - have to remember that the Dread Wolf effed things up once already for them due to a plan backfiring) in the hope of restoring the fallen elven civilization to their former glory days. Now combine that with the idea that the fear demon is trying to instill fear in Solas yes? So referring to events that have already happened make no sense (which is why I preferred the interpretation "I tell you, traitor, your victory WILL amount to nothing. Your pride WILL become death" - it needs to be future tense in order to prey on fears of what will come to pass). Plus Solas' reply of "nothing is inevitable" is obviously referring to events in the future, not the past. What I'm getting at is that before Trespasser everybody assumed the line was about the Dread Wolf's past and how he accidentally ruined everything for the elves etc etc. But it would be pointless to try and invoke fear in Solas about something long in the past that he is obviously fully aware of and has recognized. The line has to be referring to the future plan that Solas is putting into action as of the end of Trespasser. So looking at the line again we have: "I tell you, traitor (not traitor towards the elves and those they now deify, which is what we first thought it was a reference to, even if you thought the word was "rebel", but instead it means traitor to the Inquisition, which we now understand), your victory will amount to nothing (this line could remain the same and refer to Solas not succeeding in his plan or it could be "your victory will result in NOTHINGNESS" that is, total destruction of the world). Your pride will become death (the pride he shows in wanting to put the elves right back at the top of the chain will result in untold death)."
@anthony_hw
@anthony_hw 9 жыл бұрын
Interesting how both takes on the conversation are intertwined, which goes back to Morrigan's complaint of elven vagueness. In either case, great writing by Bioware.
@Preaplanes
@Preaplanes 9 жыл бұрын
Oh crap... I think the second translation might be more accurate judging by a conversation between Solas and Blackwall. Solas: The Wardens see themselves as the world's defense against the Blight, do they not? Blackwall: Yes... why do you sound so skeptical? Doesn't everyone know this? Solas: When an Archdemon rises, they slay it. What will they do when all the Archdemons are slain? Without Archdemons, there can be no Blights, is that the reasoning? Blackwall: Right. Where are you going with this? Solas: Nowhere. I hope they are correct. Sounds to me like he's hinting that with the Archdemons dead, the Darkspawn will get even worse. Like an Azerothian Old God, with all of the Old Gods dead, the world will end kind of thing. Mild-moderate tinfoil hatting, I'll admit, but still... yikes.
@D3R3bel
@D3R3bel 9 жыл бұрын
Seems to me like hes asking what the wardens will do when all the archdemons are dead, and there is no threat of another blight.
@Preaplanes
@Preaplanes 9 жыл бұрын
๖ۣۜBeyond Earth That really sounds unlikely for that particular line of questioning, especially since he was criticizing the "logic" of it.
@godsun212
@godsun212 9 жыл бұрын
Preaplanes Nah your theory sounded unlikely. I think You're making a bit too much of the tricksters questions.
@D3R3bel
@D3R3bel 9 жыл бұрын
Preaplanes in a english point of view , "what will they do" refers to the grew wardens , since blight is a event and not the army of darkspawn.
@TheRhythym
@TheRhythym 9 жыл бұрын
That's actually an interesting idea there. I mean, the idea is that Archdemons cause blights, so if they're dead then no more blights, right? But, here's the thing, they don't create more darkspawn. Darkspawn reproduce by turning females of other races into broodmothers, so their numbers wouldn't actually drop at all. More to the point, we can presume that PART of the reason blights only happen when an Archdemon rises is because the darkspawn are actually dedicating most of their effort to digging for more archdemons when they don't already have one. If there are no more archdemons to uncover then what would keep darkspawn busy? They'd surface anyway, and there'd be nothing to do to send them back underground. Then let's remember the events of Awakening. Some darkspawn take to individual thought...decently, but many go mad without the "song" of the old gods. And there would be no more song with no more archdemons. All darkspawn would become independent. They'd be less predictable and more dangerous. So, when you look at it practically, killing archdemons would definitely not solve the problem, as it goes by the simple assumption that darkspawn are helpless without an archdemon. And we know that's not true.
@fai1t0liv3
@fai1t0liv3 9 жыл бұрын
We know that the Blight originates from the Black City. It's also hinted that Solas/Dread Wolf may have had a part in releasing/creating the taint. Since Cory was trying to gain access to the Black City through the use of the Elven Orb and we know that Solas gave him that orb, it could be speculated that Solas is trying to gain access to the city himself in either an effort to get rid of the taint. I also fin it interesting that Solas chose to rename himself pride. As if to remind himself of his own demon/sin.
@LukaBlight69
@LukaBlight69 9 жыл бұрын
Something else to note: Notice how angry he gets compared to the others when the Warden's plot to pre-awaken the Arch Demons surfaces. I honestly believe the Old Gods are aspects of the Elven gods. Else, wouldn't any High Dragon suffice as a Arch Demon?
@borkingborker5567
@borkingborker5567 9 жыл бұрын
LukaBlight69 I believe the Golden City might have been an artificial construct by the Elven Pantheon (similar to the crossroads) and that Blight might have been a trap for anyone foolish enough to enter. Also I believe the Old Gods were High Dragons that were possessed by powerful demons, that of which allowed them to whisper to the magisters in their dreams.
@looots1320
@looots1320 7 жыл бұрын
according to Solas, "I was Solas first, fen'harel came later, much like Inquisitor i suppose"
@DutchGabbers
@DutchGabbers 7 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily Solas alone was responsible. It were the old Elven Gods that might have weaponized it against each other during their conflicts. While I agree it probably comes from the Black City it were the magisters that unleashed it upon the world again after they entered it. Solas was actually the one that banished the old Elven Gods for what seems like that reason.. Especially since he said that if the Elven Gods were not stopped that they would have destroyed everything.. And the Blight corrupts everything in touches to such a extend it becomes what seems like irreversibly tainted.
@stevewalton7897
@stevewalton7897 6 жыл бұрын
nice makes sense we should have a conversation
@barkingmadtabletop
@barkingmadtabletop 9 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking. When u play as a dalish inquisitor, wouldn't your inq understand (at least a bit) of what they said. I mean I would be going: "What the fuuuuuuck?" if I was Lavellan.
@TheLastWanderingBard
@TheLastWanderingBard 9 жыл бұрын
+Nicholas GN I think the fear demon preys on them by speaking directly in their mind, not out loud. Thus, they don't hear what it is saying to each of them, only to themselves personally. At least that's the only spin on things that would work.
@MrsPinkmuffinify
@MrsPinkmuffinify 8 жыл бұрын
The dalish elves can't speak elvish fluently.. they lost their language when Tevinter enslaved them. The dalish try to keep some of it alive so they use some sentences and words but no one but Solas can speak it fluent.
@chrisgreen9668
@chrisgreen9668 3 жыл бұрын
@nathan smith that's literally been established in the lore in the previous games and books tho????
@Tlevids
@Tlevids 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrsPinkmuffinify There are Dalish clans that speak it fluently in the lore, and Lavellan seems to have a good grasp of it.
@Linkolnverse
@Linkolnverse 7 жыл бұрын
The Blight is inevitable. That... that sends chills down my spine a bit. Maybe it's all the theory videos coming to me, but... this seems a logical choice.
@Toberius66
@Toberius66 9 жыл бұрын
I am quite literally squealing with excitement. I have been fascinated with the Elvhen culture of Dragon Age since the first game. At the heart of my interests where their "gods". The most interesting to me being Fen'Harel. His story as a trickster was thrilling but this... a rebel god? I can't contain the amount of sheer unadulterated joy I am experiencing! Ahem... era seranna ma. Thanks for the video lol This is great. I love the elvhen focus!
@MsIvalane
@MsIvalane 9 жыл бұрын
It's looking like ancient Elvehn culture is going to be the focus for the next game or two, given how Inquisition ends. GOD I HOPE SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Toberius66
@Toberius66 9 жыл бұрын
Same here lol
@TheAvgirl19
@TheAvgirl19 9 жыл бұрын
Something that stuck out to me in regards to Solas as Fen'Harel locking away the other Elven Gods, is a conversation between he and Sera. Solas discusses Sera's Red Jennies, launching into a passionate projection of what the outcome is. He talks about overthrowing established ruling classes and equalizing society. Then, in a follow-up conversation with him after Wicked Eyes, Wicked Hearts, he talks about missing court intrigue. When questioned as to when he was ever at court he lamely says he discovered its memory in the fade. Maybe ancient elven society was like ancient Tevinter: ruled by a family of mages so powerful that non-magical elves worshipped them as gods. When infighting between these elven magisters resulted in a bloody civil-war that forced many of these "gods" to draw power from the blood of common elves, as is often the case, the Dread Wolf decided to overthrow their dominion and lock them away? We know Solas dislikes Tevinter, he hates slavery, he hates authority figures who use those below them to feed their own power, he hates the misuse of magic, while he isn't opposed necessarily to blood magic, he hates blood magic the way it was used in Ancient Tevinter. His dislike of Vivienne, her position at court and her relative power also provokes some interesting backlash--perhaps in Vivienne Solas sees a reflection of his self long-past, his own pride--which is why he curses her in ancient elven: "May you learn.." Pure conjecture, of course. This is what happens when you become WAY too invested in a story, haha. Damn you, Bioware!!!! Ashe | Lady Insanity expert opinion?
@TheLastWanderingBard
@TheLastWanderingBard 9 жыл бұрын
+TheAvgirl19 Solas is a MASSIVE hypocrite. He lambasts Blackwall for not being honest about his identity and for also stealing the identity of a dead man. Solas himself clearly lied about who he was, and one particular theory even states that he got his current body by taking Felassan's body at the end of Masked Empire. So I don't think we can let what he praises or condemns others for really sway what we think we know about him (I mean Felassan, despite his mild disdain for elves, was constantly "advising" other elves to be more like the Dread Wolf). That being said, your theory concerning his disdain for corrupt authority stemming from his previous days amidst the revered elven spirits (because we can be confident now that is all they were) he would later turn against certainly holds up. And also admonishing Vivienne because of her pride and seeing it as a reflection of his past self also works, given Solas' namesake. And I would say Solas views pride negatively now; I see no other justification for him choosing that name for himself other than as a reminder of past mistakes, and his current motivation to change things. I guess we shall find out in the Trespasser DLC.
@TheAvgirl19
@TheAvgirl19 9 жыл бұрын
+edallencompassingly lots of good points, I think that's what makes his character so fascinating is that he is both a hypocrite and yet he can make a lot of good points based on his banter with other characters--I'm just hoping for some freakin answers at some point. DLC can not come quick enough!!
@TheLastWanderingBard
@TheLastWanderingBard 9 жыл бұрын
TheAvgirl19 Yeah they have a lot of answers to give. They should be in the DLC, given that it is the last one. And you're right Solas definitely makes good points in conversations/banter, but I think most of those good things he has learnt from his own mistakes. And I would even go so far as to theorize the whole tale of the dread wolf and what he did to the other elven spirits was some kind of mistake on his part. Lots of evidence suggests the dread wolf is not guilty of the betrayal the tales suggest he is. Would explain Solas' disdain to the other elves, who essentially fabricated the tale against him, and why he feels so insulted when they reject his attempts to correct them. Would also explain why Solas was seemingly trying to get the orb to free the other elven spirits. Why do that if he wanted them locked away? Plus in the fade with the fear demon Solas' fear on the gravestone was "dying alone". Again, why would he purposely banish all others like him if he fears being alone. I think the elves have their own lore wrong, at least as far as the dread wolf goes. I also think what the fear demon said to Solas here was "I tell you, traitor. Your victory means nothing. Your pride will become your death". And I think it might be a foreshadowing of the Trespasser DLC. I think Solas has a grand plan but will ultimately face death. If the fear demon was trying to evoke fear in Solas (which it must be, given that it's a fear demon), then foreshadowing the future would be more effective than simply recalling Solas' past.
@SuperFryStick
@SuperFryStick 9 жыл бұрын
I remember the story of The Dread Wolf, all the way back to orgins. It is funny to stumble upon lore you can remenber, and to see that little detail had great significance.
@ThePeculiarPelican
@ThePeculiarPelican 9 жыл бұрын
Harellan doesn't mean trickster, really. I remember the codex at the tempel of Mythal said it means "betrayer of one's own kind/kin", however, trickster may be right too.
@user-ep3gb4jz4f
@user-ep3gb4jz4f 9 жыл бұрын
God I love the Elvish language of Dragon Age and the fact that you actually translated it? Easily the coolest thing I've seen since the Inquisitor's trailer. Simply priceless keep up the good work Ashe!
@TheLastWanderingBard
@TheLastWanderingBard 9 жыл бұрын
"Tell me/I tell you, traitor, has your victory amounted to anything?/your victory amounts to nothing. Your pride will/has become death." OR "Tell me/I tell you, traitor, will your victory amount to anything?/your victory will amount to nothing, your pride will become death." "Nothing is inevitable." All just my opinion of course, but I think we have to take into account that languages do not always directly translate. In any given languages there are not always direct equivalents; even more so the case in a fictional language, where a literal translation for what the writers are trying to say might not exist yet, though they still have to make it accessible for those who would translate. Plus grammar construction changes greatly from language to language. I think the best way is to get a general idea of what is being said in terms of vocab, then make it make sense from other things we know for sure from the story/lore. If the first part really is "tell me", then the first half of the demon's sentence must be a question, otherwise it would make no sense. Also, it is clearly meant to be an insult or mockery to Solas (certainly said in a way that looks down on him and what he has done), therefore the better translation for "Harellan" would be "traitor". It has appeared as this translation in a few other spots, confirmed in the codices. So for me personally I think the first part would be "Tell me, traitor, has your victory amounted to anything?" Posing this in question form certainly fits the notion of tormenting somebody through fear, as it evokes pessimistic contemplation; much more potent than simply trying tell Solas it is nothing. Then the next part would have to be something that preys on fears. I was originally thinking the very last words could be about "their death", as in "your pride will lead to their death", because that would have been the most obvious translation concerning what we now know about Solas and his motivations. However the term "mar" is used twice, and must be "your", so therefore it is a reference to "your [Solas'] death". the word "death" here still works here as a noun, which Ashe insists it must be. It's not saying anything about Solas being or becoming dead because of it, it is talking about being death itself, the noun. I also think "ena" here could be to become or transform into. And given the nature of the fear demon's sayings, it must be a statement to evoke fear (or attempt to) in Solas, not simply state a fact about him. Therefore, the translation I prefer would be "your pride will/has become death". I am unsure about the tense used, that is why I put both "will become" and "has become". The latter makes sense as it is reference to things Solas already is and has done, yet does not fit the idea that the demon is trying to evoke further fear in him, yet "will become" does. This also fits Solas' response, of which the best interpretation in my opinion is "Nothing is inevitable". Whatever Solas says, it is clearly to counter whatever the fear demon is trying to evoke, so this makes sense. "Tell me, traitor, has your victory amounted to anything? Your pride will become death." "Nothing is inevitable." The only thing that would change things in this translation whilst still making sense overall would be if the start is actually "tell you", which it could well be. The wording of the part after would have to change so that it is no longer a question. A strong argument for this translation is that it would also allow for the word "nothing" in the second clause, which seems like a more concise equivalent for "amount to anything". They mean the same here because the way the demon phrases "amount to anything" is clearly negative, believing that it has not amounted to anything (so therefore, it also means "nothing"). So it would be: "I tell you, traitor, your victory means nothing. Your pride will become death." Or of course, the entire thing could be future tense, so it becomes "your victory will mean nothing, your pride will become death". That too would serve as an attempt to evoke fear in Solas. Really depends on how much the demon is willing to leave as an open ended question for Solas to ruminate on. It also fits the upcoming Trespasser DLC, as clearly Solas has a plan and it looks like the Inquisition is out to foil it (plus the Inquisitor already did foil it as the orb broke before Solas could have it - though at the point in the game with the fear demon that event is also in the future). So the fear demon is foreshadowing what is going to happen to Solas' plan, either at the end of the story with the loss of the orb (and whatever happened to Flemeth) or in the Trespasser DLC. Pure speculation here, but I think Solas has a big plan for Trespasser, but will ultimately fail and he will face death at the hands of either the Qunari attackers or the Inquisition (and players will be given the choice to go through with it or not - though leaving such an important fate open ended like that would have massive repercussions in terms of branching storylines later on, so I wouldn't be surprised if Solas does indeed die either way).
@afgusti4269
@afgusti4269 7 жыл бұрын
I have also read this hrase as "I tell you noble rebel, there is no comfort in you lost . Your pride is dead" The lost, and also pride obviously refers to the elven people. I think, no matter how you translate this phrase, it means the same. It could be that the elven language is that way. I mean there are a lot of translation to a sentence, but not matter how you do it it will always mean the same. Sorry if I had mistakes, english is not my native language. plus I loved your comment.
@TheLastWanderingBard
@TheLastWanderingBard 7 жыл бұрын
Afgusti ª I can tell you for sure that your English is far better than my attempts to speak your language would be! As far as the interpretation of this line, we now have the events of the Trespasser DLC to enlighten our view. I still say the interpretation is "I tell you, traitor, your victory will amount to nothing. Your pride will become death". However, in the Trespasser DLC we find out that Solas plans on tearing down the veil and unleashing the Fade onto the physical world in an attempt to restore the Elven civilization to their former glory (and of course the Inquisitor is against it, because it would be the end of everybody else, maybe even the elves if the plan does not work out). Combine that with the fact that the demon preys on fears. It makes no sense for the demon to refer to events that have already happened. It must be talking about events yet to come, in order to make Solas fear them. Therefore we can look at the line differently: "I tell you, traitor (not a traitor to the elves, as first thought, but a traitor to the Inquisition), your victory will amount to nothing (OR, it could be "your victory will result in nothingness" as in the world being destroyed). Your pride will become death (the death of everybody killed by the Fade).
@Lethal_Giggles
@Lethal_Giggles 7 жыл бұрын
This is about 3 years late, but I saw a loose translation of what the demon said on a DAi forum. "Have you learned, trickster? That was no victory. Your pride will be your death." The above quote makes sense. Afterall Solas does believe that his actions created a world that should not exist, and that his people, the elves, are worse off now then they were under the Elven gods
@fabulermo3428
@fabulermo3428 9 жыл бұрын
Your voice is soothing, and your theories interesting. Dammit, I'm trying to study!
@Gunslade
@Gunslade 9 жыл бұрын
Love the great amount of lore in Inquisition. Allso sense the Elves are my favorite race the fact they had such a big part in the game was so awesome. :)
@stevewalton7897
@stevewalton7897 6 жыл бұрын
well history can be wrong its not always set in stone
@Astralaeyna
@Astralaeyna 9 жыл бұрын
I've heard some people translate "Harellan" as more a word for a "rebel" or one who betrayed their kin. I always personally interpreted it kind of like that, seeing Solas more like a god of rebellion instead of a trickster- which maybe that is just one more thing the Dalish got wrong? "Mar solas ena mar din" Personally I saw someone translate it as this: "They will reveal Solas does not exist." "They" being the Inquisition. Which it could actually be interpreted that way if we translate Solas to refer to the name Fen'Harel has taken instead of it's literal meaning. So... any thoughts on the potential for a Wolf Hunt DLC?
@Ladyinsanity
@Ladyinsanity 9 жыл бұрын
Harellan's translation is actually in the World of Thedas book as "Trickster". The rebel one comes from a translation that includes research from an Orlesian scholar, which as we know almost any off-hand reference (especially from a non-human in that environment) is pretty hard to depend on lol. I just take it at face, to avoid confusion.
@Astralaeyna
@Astralaeyna 9 жыл бұрын
Ashe | Lady Insanity I like all kinds of interpretations, honestly. I hope you weren't thinking I was saying "YOU'RE NOT THINKING THE WAY THAT I'M THINKING, SHUT UP" I was just putting in what I've read other people say and what I've kind of thought on it based on that. I didn't mean to offend you.
@Ladyinsanity
@Ladyinsanity 9 жыл бұрын
Kathryn Horne I know I mentioned it to you on Twitter, but to avoid confusion for anyone reading the comment - wasn't in regards to (edit) Kathryn nor anyone in this comment section at all :) Was on a separate site.
@user-ep3gb4jz4f
@user-ep3gb4jz4f 9 жыл бұрын
Ashe | Lady Insanity By the way if you know Ashe if you play as a dalish elf Inquisitor why don't you understand what they say like when Solas was talking with the spirit in his personal quest? Do they talk in ancient Elvhen or something?
@murasakinokami9882
@murasakinokami9882 9 жыл бұрын
ilias mits It's my thought that since the Dalish only remember a few words from their original language, that these are words the Dalish inquisitor simply never learned.
@ZehnWaters
@ZehnWaters 9 жыл бұрын
I think the fear demon was asking/referring to his failed "victory" in locking the Elvhen gods away in order to save "the people".
@burutone
@burutone 9 жыл бұрын
Figured I share this. I'm stretching but takes an interesting meaning. "Tell me, noble struggler (rebeller). Your empty victory. The dead must be proud of you" From what I understood in the Temple of Mythal codex entry, the dread wolf could be seen as a god of rebellion. Since the fear demon mocks the character's insecurities. It makes sense for it to mock Solas quiet sorrow that what he did not only was pointless but also that it may have doomed his people to forever remain in this wretched state that it's in now. I know i took liberties with translating but love to hear your thoughts on this!
@TheLastWanderingBard
@TheLastWanderingBard 9 жыл бұрын
+burutone I think the demon is calling Solas "traitor". The same same word appears in other places to specifically mean traitor. It is used as an insult, so I'm a little bit reluctant to think he would call him "noble struggler". Also, the fact that the start means "tell me" makes it sound like the demon is asking a question, so I think the first part should be "Tell me, traitor, did your victory amount to anything?" and then the second part, given that it is a fear demon, must be something preying on Solas' fears. So it will either be about his death, or the death of others. Also the word pride is specifically used in that part. So the last part has to be either "pride will be the death of you" or "your pride will be their death". Generically, it can be "your pride will lead to death", though if Ashe is correct in insisting the final word has to be a noun, then we have to take that into account. We also cannot be sure of the tense. So overall we have "Tell me, traitor, did your victory amount to anything? Your pride will/has become death". To which Solas responds that "Nothing is inevitable". That's the interpretation I'm going with anyway. What would really change it is if the start is not "tell me" but I actually "tell you", in which case the first part is not a question, but a statement. Then it has to be "I tell you, traitor, your victory is nothing. Your pride will/has become death."
@echoness_
@echoness_ 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was trying to figure out what were they spoke of. Now makes more sense.
@anthonyschroeder521
@anthonyschroeder521 9 жыл бұрын
Also no one seems to consider the possibility that elven can/or does exclusively use subject object inversion (like german) It seems much more likely that death is the subject that emerged (or passively brought forth) while pride (that in duality with solas himself) is the object or that death has emerged from his pride so to speak. Numerous actions and phrases suggest that even were solas to still believe his actions are right, or were right, he is not proud of his direct past actions.
@Thanks4TheLolz
@Thanks4TheLolz 9 жыл бұрын
The ending made me want to romance Solas
@stars-and-clouds
@stars-and-clouds 3 жыл бұрын
Relatable but also don't like how pathetic they make the inquisitor look with Solas romance... You are either aggressive af or just crying about it... There's no in between
@mayaamis
@mayaamis 3 жыл бұрын
Patrick Weekes himself already confirmed what the dialogues meant, there's official translation. Demon: Your pride is responsible for everything that has gone wrong; you will die alone Solas: “Nothing is known for certain / Not necessarily”
@Ladyinsanity
@Ladyinsanity 3 жыл бұрын
My video was made in 2014. Weekes' confirmation was literally from 9 months ago.
@mayaamis
@mayaamis 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ladyinsanity hey yes I know, I wasn't implying you were supposed to know this 6 years ago, my comment was more info for all the fans that still visit this video and discuss it in case they missed that interview. 😁
@alexsamurai1230
@alexsamurai1230 3 жыл бұрын
I think the sense of it, rather than trying to fit it into an exact English transliteration, might be 'Tell me trickster, was this (the blight/fade/fall of the elves) your great victory? You whose name is pride, do you feel pride to look upon all those who are dead because of you? '
@santiagopersona6743
@santiagopersona6743 2 жыл бұрын
Solas is a Demon inside demonology (Stolas), maybe Solas appears in the codex of the chantry. Also, Stolas gets hungry when he's alone.
@alexsynan1347
@alexsynan1347 9 жыл бұрын
You are so cool to know the language! Fun video thanks
@ANCIENTWARRI0R
@ANCIENTWARRI0R 9 жыл бұрын
Please keep these coming because I'm not a dragon age junkie and the ending made no sense to me. These vids help me to understand everything better
@proudatheist2485
@proudatheist2485 9 жыл бұрын
*Arlathan Elvish* Fear Demon: "Dirth ma, harellan. Ma banal enasalin. Mar solas ena mar din." Solas: "Banal nadas." Dirth- Tell Ma: Mine, my,You Herallan- Betrayer of the People ( route being Herralin; Rebel with noble cause) Banal- Nothing Enansalin- relief or comfort from loss ( Solas, means pride, but the Demon can say that his Pride is dead.) *English* Fear Demon: "I tell you, noble rebel, you have no comfort in your loss. Your pride is dead." Solas: Nothing ( is ) inevitable.
@Sephirajo
@Sephirajo 9 жыл бұрын
The way Solas replies to the demon too also makes it seem like the phrase in this case is a nice way of saying "STFU"
@Kagomai15
@Kagomai15 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone here follow fenxshiral on tumblr??? His work furthering and constructing the Dalish conlang is *extremely* interesting, and might help with further theorizing. For example, this is the interpretation of the conversation by fenxshiral on AO3: Fear: *Dirth ma, harellan. Ma banal enasalin. Mar solas ena mar din.* Speak rebel! You care for nothing but victory. Your pride will be your death. Solas: *Banal nadas.* Nothing is inevitable
@IwarinJones
@IwarinJones 9 жыл бұрын
Hey, Ash. I would like to see a Video about the romances. I mean, which one do you like and why and what you don't like. It would be intersting Hearing from you!
@flamewing8025
@flamewing8025 9 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you for translating that!
@cristian-ionutapostol8018
@cristian-ionutapostol8018 4 жыл бұрын
I think the second line might mean "Your pride will cause/has caused the death of your people.", with a literal translation being "Your pride emerges/emerged your dead." In some languages you can express "lead to death" as "make dead (plural noun)", and the same could be could true in Elvish, while in some you can express "the death of all those related to you or you care about" simply as "your dead (plural noun again)". Both features are found in my native tongue, though there they can't be both used together to express a single idea, but it may very well be possible in Dragon Age's Elvish.
@playlist123987
@playlist123987 9 жыл бұрын
didn't an elf end the fourth blight, maybe just as flemeth met Mythal solas met fen'harel (hope i spelt that right) and fen'harel saved him from death, there being his tie to the blight. as for pride emerging from the dead i can think of two things, only peaple involved in the fourth blight remember him that being where his pride comes from as they are all dead by now. Or that the things that fen'harel was proud of died a long time ago being when Arlathan fell.
@blazein232
@blazein232 9 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic
@disgraced101
@disgraced101 9 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's the wrong video to be posting this but here is my theory on Lyrium and Red Lyrium. Lyrium comes from "The Stone" in Dwarven beliefs and Dwarves are unaffected by it. Dwarves do not enter the Fade normally and do not have a clear belief in an Afterlife, instead preferring Ancestral "Worship" after their departed "returns to the Stone". What if Lyrium is actually the condensed souls of Dwarves or any creatures buried in the Stone (think the old belief that oil came from dinosaurs)? What if, the Stone is like the Golden City,and the Red Lyrium is a sign of the corruption finally taking root in the Stone itself. It would sort of explain the Dwarves inability for magic, their resistance to lyrium, their pseudo-magical abilities like Enchantment and the Anvil of the Void. Its like how Dagna explains that Dwarves are part of the Fade/Magic, and yet are apart. But I will admit the Primordial Thaig in DA2 sort of pokes holes in that theory since the appearance of Red Lyrium only appears after the Red Lyrium Idol is discovered. While I love the wealth of Elven lore, I hope to revisit the Stone-centric Dwarven culture. Varric's ok, but he's too much of a surfacer to really be considered Dwarven. He seems to disdain old Dwarven traditions. Here's hoping for some decent DLC and new companions!
@LukaBlight69
@LukaBlight69 9 жыл бұрын
Red Lyrium comes from the blight, meaning Lyrium is in some way alive.
@horsewnoname1415
@horsewnoname1415 9 жыл бұрын
I hope he comes back.
@EventideFarm
@EventideFarm 9 жыл бұрын
Darn my completionist ways, lack of time and not having finished to the ending yet... I can't watch any vids until I do!
@TheGodlikeDragon
@TheGodlikeDragon 9 жыл бұрын
Can it be so that Solas lead the inquisitor to Skyhold because there is something hidden there or because there is more to the place then we know? We know it was a sacred site to the old elvhen, and Morrigan speak of the place having magic in it´s stone. So maybe that place was once Fen´Harels temple? It would explain why everyone who had taken hold of it had left it(The place is a giant fortress that look impregnable, it is a very strategic place that is as someone in the inquisition said: A palace), and when Fen`Harel eventually revisited the place, he purged unwelcome guests out of it(and making sure such a Fortress never truly was on the map)
@TheGodlikeDragon
@TheGodlikeDragon 9 жыл бұрын
***** Well, Fen`Harel is a trickster
@TheGodlikeDragon
@TheGodlikeDragon 9 жыл бұрын
***** He said he did some stupid things when he was young
@MrsPinkmuffinify
@MrsPinkmuffinify 8 жыл бұрын
+Nilas' Junkyard Solas says himself that Skyhold used to be his (in Trespasser and only when you have low approval), It is probably the place where he created the veil too. The fortress was just build on top of it.
@damvid21
@damvid21 9 жыл бұрын
By the way, if you look up codex entry History #61 it does suggest that Harellan probably means traitor rather than trickster and that Fen'Harel was likely the god of rebellion. Given that we all now know the old elven legend about him is wrong then this seems much more of an accurate view. So the question is, who rebelled against who? Who won, and who lost...?
@Ladyinsanity
@Ladyinsanity 9 жыл бұрын
damvid21 As much as I want to believe that entry, I had to take a step back from it. If you look at it, the author is an Orlesian researcher. Not saying that I'm racist against Orlesians, but they haaave been known to remove all traces of Elven lore from their records (and even Shartan, who they scratched out initially from the University of Orlais). It's possible that that's the translation, but I'm sticking to my guns for now with harellan's translation in the book.
@damvid21
@damvid21 9 жыл бұрын
Ashe | Lady Insanity Have you tried interpreting what story the murals in Solas' room in Skyhold are depicting? I believe the story is right there, but its a matter of interpretation as to what it is...
@damvid21
@damvid21 9 жыл бұрын
Ashe | Lady Insanity This dialogue gives some interesting insights too. /watch?v=lpAuZZTaeX8
@archangel9191
@archangel9191 9 жыл бұрын
All in all, this indicates obviously that even the Fear Demon knew of Solas's secret and who he obviously really was/is as a part of the Inquisition. O.K, now that really, really is creepy, by a whole new level and/or meaning.
@CreativeUsernameEh
@CreativeUsernameEh 9 жыл бұрын
....Good work Lady Insanity. Its videos like these that make me so glad I subbed to you so long ago, your videos are amazing. BTW I could help you, I know elven. An'daren Atishan... You've just heard the entirety of it, I'm afraid.
@sparkius30
@sparkius30 8 жыл бұрын
Okay, new to your channel. Subscribed. I love lore videos. Your work with Shoddycast led me here. Anyways, where are you getting these translations from? And the pronunciation? Best guess?
@MikeMafiaII
@MikeMafiaII 9 жыл бұрын
So if Solas is Fen'Harel how could he have entered his slumber or Uthenera, i thought only normal ancient elves could do this, or could their 'gods' (I don't know what to call Fen'Harel) also go in to Uthenera?
@nick.mccray
@nick.mccray 7 жыл бұрын
My theory on this, also spoilers ahead. So I looked at the translation and kind of made my own version, which is "Tell me trickster, you won nothing. Your pride will be your death." So I think that the you "won nothing" part refers to Solas giving Corypheous his orb. If you've played the Tresspasser dlc you'll know that Solas did this so that the orb when unlocked would kill Corypheous and then he would reclaim it after his death. Solas would have won his battle and entered the fade and destroyed the veil and thus restoring the elven people. A victory for his people. When the plan failed, Solas lost. Thus "You won nothing". On "your pride shall be your death" I think that because he thinks that he WILL restore the elves, he becomes very prideful. And with the Inquisition trying to stop him, it will probably his downfall and he will have to die to be stopped. This could very well be the next game because the person who developed these games showed us a book with an animal over a tower. The front page of the book is written in the font that is used in DAI. So it very well could be that this is the next Dragon Age game. And what's the animal on the front cover? It's my belief that it's a wolf. The Dread Wolf. And the game would be about the Inquisition's journey of stopping Solas destroying the world.
@damvid21
@damvid21 9 жыл бұрын
Does anyone here know the elvish word for the verb 'to tame', 'to master' or 'to conquer'? Had a look all over the place with no luck!
@GmTy
@GmTy 9 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that Solas used the blood magic for his veil creation and tainted the fade in the process?
@MrsPinkmuffinify
@MrsPinkmuffinify 8 жыл бұрын
No he used the orb, Solas can't do blood magic
@bradknightable
@bradknightable 8 жыл бұрын
i wouldn't say he can't he just won't i remember him saying it makes it harder to enter the fade useing blood magic and solas is the number one fan of the fade so he wouldnt want that
@afgusti4269
@afgusti4269 7 жыл бұрын
Solas said that back at coryheus event he was weak, so imagine how powerful he was. And in the moment he created the veil, ther was no barrier to the fade, so magis was more owerful.
@DutchGabbers
@DutchGabbers 6 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t use bloodmagic because spirits flee from that or it corrupt them.. but he has nothing against it as he says “magic is magic, it all depends on the person using it”.. And we all know how much he likes spirits so using it Will make him unable to do something he likes.. he said that himself. Just like you can ask him to teach it to you and he says he cant because he never did it for the reason I just said
@MajesticMurders
@MajesticMurders 9 жыл бұрын
Good work, keep it up :)
@Rhodecus
@Rhodecus 9 жыл бұрын
thank you for this
@bgcvetan
@bgcvetan 7 жыл бұрын
Solas achieved victory by creating the Veil and that destroyed the ancient elven civilisation who was so depended to magic.( as we are to electicity. ) He achieved Pyrrhic Victory.
@nelson_rebel3907
@nelson_rebel3907 Жыл бұрын
It can be restored
@TheAfroGuyCleo
@TheAfroGuyCleo 9 жыл бұрын
thank you! ever since my first playthrough and the shocking ending i made sure to bring solas into the fade with me just to see what the demon would say to him just for it to be in elven and me almost pulling my hair because I couldn't figure it out. going elven mage for my third playthrough just to see if he says anything different to my inquisitor. solas, why have you betrayed me?! D': lol ash do you think solas will return for the dlc as a companion or an enemy we must face?
@Ladyinsanity
@Ladyinsanity 9 жыл бұрын
I think it's possible to play out the same way Morrigan's did (Witch Hunt DLC...or I guess Wolf Hunt DLC? Haha) Other than that, I think his role will be just as poignant as Morrigan's in DAI, but for DA4.
@TheAfroGuyCleo
@TheAfroGuyCleo 9 жыл бұрын
Ashe | Lady Insanity but isn't it too early to just do that? I think they should at least explain some of the things going on like why did Mythal/Flemeth possibly push the soul of the old god through the eluvian just before solas spoke to her (if morrigan had the old god baby). or why does Solas say the people need him and in what ways, is he going to just going to destroy the elves or release the elven gods from their prison and what was the purpose behind giving Corypheus the orb. so many question that need answering.
@WarriorTRZ
@WarriorTRZ 9 жыл бұрын
TheAfroGuyCleo Not 100% Sure... But wasn't she Simply repairing the Eluvian in the Temple of Mythal? (or it's Reflection in the Crossroads)
@nekochan0141
@nekochan0141 9 жыл бұрын
I thought "Harellan" means "noble rebel"
@anthonyschroeder521
@anthonyschroeder521 9 жыл бұрын
I find it more likely that he would use the Betrayer word set in the context of trying to hurt solas. Indeed one can argue he is the rebel with a noble cause, but the nightmare is not really in a flattering mood. It is likely instead of a transliteration of what you propose the sense is rather more important. NOTE: I did not carry the tense in any of these lines, but given possible interpretations on Solas himself, any tense that works within the grammar of the language works as a valid interpretation. ROUGH TRANSLATION WITH INTERPRETATION BASED ON TENSE: "I tell you, betrayer of your people (of old gods-past, of the dalish-more recent past and present, of the inquisition/all people through the orb-near past or present or near future if prophesying victory, of some other group as seen in the epilogue-future) there can be no comfort for your loss (past- ancient elven history/gods/people/glory/power, present-orb or love/respect of inquisito(r)(n) or plight of the dalish, future-whatever the scene with mythal is alluding to) for through pride (specifically HIS pride being the duality of names) you have brought death (as in you have doomed the old gods or the elves (past+present) or the inquisition (assuming he knows the fear of the orb which would be a present or future fear) or some yet unknown action (future since clearly solas's story does not end with the main campaign)).' I tend not to favor transliteration especially because we don't really know conjugation well enough and can't identify all prepositions. A good example of this is 'mar' in the last phrase. Mar is likely an article, preposition (most likely imo), or indicative of a tense. A more transliteral interpretation of the last phase would be: 'through/in PRIDE (as in Solas's pride again) death has emerged (or brought forth)'. Again we don't really know the tenses which is problematic because Solas has such a complicated past so we don't really know if this was just confirming the past, fear of the present, or foreshadowing (all of which is in some way done to various companions which is problematic). MY PERSONAL FAVORED TRANSLATION: "I tell you, betrayer of the elves, there can be no comfort in your loss, for through your pride you have brought forth death."
@MarvellousMorbing
@MarvellousMorbing 9 жыл бұрын
I love how BW played the deception angle really well with this unexpected plot twist ,I though Solas was just an Apostate nerdist,nvr suspected him to be more then that . Solas put on a good facade while pretending to be the friendliest dude around throughout . So I suppose Fen"Harel absorb Mythral inside Solas"s body
@astrojeet
@astrojeet 9 жыл бұрын
I also thought the same but there were few instances where I found him suspicious. After the singing scene when Solas talks about the elven pantheon and the orb, I knew there was something off about him. And then at the Temple of Mythal acting all smug as if he knows everything when Morrigan didn't. And when finally when he finds the shattered Orb he says "This was not how it was supposed to be" confirmed my suspicions. But, I did not expect him being the Dread Wolf. That finally scene really shocked me.
@MarvellousMorbing
@MarvellousMorbing 9 жыл бұрын
astrojeet :), me too. BW was playing at two directions,one is Corypheus,another is Solas. BW cleverly hidden Solas agenda without giving him too much suspicion All this time it was Flemeth behind the curtains? Her ultimate revelation + Solas goals align & so who will be the Final Antagonist at the end of DA franchisee? hehe
@Wolfbane971
@Wolfbane971 9 жыл бұрын
Tatsumi Anime Superhero Fan Dude its Morrigan she'll go dragon on us since Flemmeth cant stop her cause shes dead and if she didnt drink the well then she'll learn a new way to be dragon...MORRIGAN IS EVIL
@MarvellousMorbing
@MarvellousMorbing 9 жыл бұрын
Wolfbane971 nah,she has no agenda of her own,she though she could use Kieran-God child for some "purpose" ,but taken a liking to it as her own son-like a real mother. She treating him proper unlike Flemeth, whoever drinks the well of Sorrows is forever bound to Mythral
@LukaBlight69
@LukaBlight69 9 жыл бұрын
I also find it intriguing how Leliana used to be more of a softy and questioning her own morals where as Morrigan was ruthless and such and here you see their roles reversed. Leliana has no issues killing people if the need arises and Morrigan firmly loves her son and even offers her life for his. You could argue she was power grabbing at the well, but nothing suggests the contrary to what she had said. Plus she made a damn good point on how humankind destroys what it does not understand.
@NotDumbassable
@NotDumbassable 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thx.
@pinkplasticlag
@pinkplasticlag 9 жыл бұрын
My head just exploded O_O
@KonguZya
@KonguZya 9 жыл бұрын
Why do people refer to Solas as if he IS the Dread Wolf? As far as I can tell, Fen'Harel is probably a spirit that resides in Solas just like Mythal does with Flemeth, they could very well be interconnected by not actually the same being.
@astrojeet
@astrojeet 9 жыл бұрын
You forget that Mythal was murdered whereas the Dread Wolf never died. He was in Uthenera. It's possible but it's unlikely Solas is someone else. He is most likely himself much like Abelas and his gang.
@KonguZya
@KonguZya 9 жыл бұрын
astrojeet Good point, but that still assumes that all of the elven gods were just powerful elves from the past. Solas himself advocates that theory to Cassandra--but I can't help but think that there's *something* more to it, like 'Solas' being bound to a very powerful Pride demon (possibly named Fen'Harel?) Eh, I'm not good at speculating...
@LukaBlight69
@LukaBlight69 9 жыл бұрын
KonguZya Also look at the old god count vs the elven god count 7 and 9. And we've met two elven gods so far.
@Zandalorscat
@Zandalorscat 9 жыл бұрын
It's certainly possible that he's like Flemeth, but it's not what I personally believe. In addition to what others have said, there's also the matter of what he tells the Inquisitor about himself. It's perfectly possible that there was an elf who grew up in a village, taught himself to control his magic without effort and liked to explore the Fade by sleeping in ruins. It does sound like a convenient lie, though. There are no people present in that story, no family, no drama, not a lot of emotion. All very neatly tied up and nearly impossible to fact-check. He also doesn't speak much about his past - if you ask about memories, he'll retell things he's seen in the Fade but never share a personal one. Being an abomination would mean that he has genuine memories he could share. There'd be no reason to be secretive. The best way to avoid suspicion would be to be as open about his life as possible, while keeping quiet about the spirit part.
@tedybearman5
@tedybearman5 9 жыл бұрын
Okay, so I'm reading The Masked Empire, *so if you have not read it, know I am about to spoil some stuff* Felassan and Bria are talking about freeing Celine and Michel from the Dalish. Bria asked him "Are you even Dalish?" (249) and he gives the cryptic answer "Do you want to know the answer to that question, da'len, or do you want my help?" and this comes right after the two of them talked revealing that, much like Solas, he knows way more about the Elves than normal Dalsh. So my thought here, what if Felassan is also one of the Creator?? I mean it would kind of make sense. I haven't finished the book so I don't yet know if something later will kill my theory, but as of now I think it makes sense. I'm thinking he could most likely be Falon'Din, just based on his personality.
@tedybearman5
@tedybearman5 9 жыл бұрын
So I just finished the book and I am almost certain that Felassan was one of the creators based on what he said to who ever killed him (which I think was Solas...) Any thoughts Ashe | Lady Insanity?
@nicenweet3192
@nicenweet3192 9 жыл бұрын
Chris Thorne I don't think he is a creator. I think that he may have been working for Solas. See Solas and Sera's dialog. He's giving her advice on how to run a successful organization, how to spread them out so not one person has all of her secrets. Also Felassan seems to admire the dread wolf in some ways. This is just a theory that I recently commented on another video. I think that Felassan was one of the children that the dread wolf saved from the great beast in the story of the slow arrow. Felassan has vallaslin, but we know from the game that Solas is against any form of slavery. I think Felassan pledged his loyalty to the dread wolf and not servitude, thus him being able to refuse to tell Solas the password. I hope I'm wrong because Felassan was my favorite character in the book and Solas was my favorite in the game.
@TheLastWanderingBard
@TheLastWanderingBard 9 жыл бұрын
+Chris Thorne Felassan either IS the dread wolf or, probably more likely, served the dread wolf until the end of Masked Empire, where the dread wolf took Felassan's body for his own purposes and chose the name Pride for himself. We've seen Solas can alter physical appearances, so getting rid of the vallaslin marks from Felassan's face would be no problem (neither would changing anything else to stop himself being recognized). They both have ancient knowledge regarding elves, much more than they should, they both have some kind of mild disdain for elves and refuse to acknowledge them as "their people", and they both share plenty of other characteristics. When Solas goes to the palace, where he knew he could potentially run into Briala, Solas was the only one of the group who made sure to wear a helmet covering his face. Furthermore, original concept art for Solas showed he had bright purple eyes, just like Felassan. And they both shared some kind of interest and/or knowledge regarding accessing the fade in physical form (Felassan with the eluvians, and Solas with the orb). Plus actually having positive feelings for the dread wolf is rare amongst elves, so to find two, who are incredibly similar already, share the same feelings about the dread wolf, seems far too coincedental. Oh and Felassan means "slow arrow", a direct reference to a dread wolf story.
@KendaraDark
@KendaraDark 9 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what his necklace is suppose to be? it almost looks like a shoe but that wouldn't make any sense.
@gumibon9485
@gumibon9485 9 жыл бұрын
it's a wolf jaw !
@jonathanlj16
@jonathanlj16 9 жыл бұрын
Can I ask you to translate the elvish frace you say at the end?
@matepesut
@matepesut 9 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, its amazing how people have revealed so much through the the crumbs that were left, but they are limited by the dumbed down story. You cant know what it means because you dont know what the nightmare really is, or was supposed to be, or Justinia for that matter or Leliana, Sandal etc....
@NCRambassador
@NCRambassador 9 жыл бұрын
Love they had that in the game, still it did let me call that ending which took away the shocking reveal of it so i'm also a little disappointed too.
@luisacruz4683
@luisacruz4683 8 жыл бұрын
Just one question...who do you know elf?
@dk988-y
@dk988-y 9 жыл бұрын
Where can you learn Elvhen??
@Ladyinsanity
@Ladyinsanity 9 жыл бұрын
DK988 Sources are in the description, but basically I looked in the World of Thedas and I often refer to an unofficial DA codex that's hosted on someone's site.
@rowanl3059
@rowanl3059 6 жыл бұрын
isnt it weird that solas kinda hates the grey warden?
@yugifan96
@yugifan96 9 жыл бұрын
is sandal prophecy about solas and is plans?
@Gurlow
@Gurlow 8 жыл бұрын
+stefan laurentiu you mean in dragon age 2 right? I'd say so.
@afgusti4269
@afgusti4269 7 жыл бұрын
He said "HE" so it cannot mean a princial character of any game. And "when he rises, everyone will see" It sounds like this person will show some truth no one knows about. So, yeah. retty sure about it.
@DragonRage61
@DragonRage61 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. When I first heard that prophecy in Dragon Age 2, I thought Sandal was talking about Corypheus.
@RosePostedThis
@RosePostedThis 9 жыл бұрын
You have a good voice. Would be lovely if you got a cameo in a Bioware game. Only fair, really. :)
@tymemaster
@tymemaster 9 жыл бұрын
I uh kinda don't care for Solas but interesting since I didn't bring him into the fade he isn't in my party much
@TheLastWanderingBard
@TheLastWanderingBard 9 жыл бұрын
+tymemaster Ironically Solas and Cole are probably the most interesting, as far as discovering lore goes, to bring to most places. Blackwall and Iron Bull also make interesting contributions if it's a specific field of expertise for them.
@TheLastWanderingBard
@TheLastWanderingBard 9 жыл бұрын
+tymemaster Ironically Solas and Cole are probably the most interesting, as far as discovering lore goes, to bring to most places. Blackwall and Iron Bull also make interesting contributions if it's a specific field of expertise for them.
@9tharchangel
@9tharchangel 9 жыл бұрын
I have heard a theory that the black city is the prison of where the Dread wolf caged the other elven "gods" (besides Mythal, because she was murdered). And if you think about it, the black city really looks like a giant landscape that was bluntly ripped and thrown into the skies of the fade, just like Corypheus did at the end of the game with the last battle arena. Now, as temping to believe as it is, there is a highly doubt to that theory (that the black city is the elven gods' prison), and the reason is because the chantry says that the black city was formerly the golden city aka the seat of the maker. Now you probably think, ok who the fuck cares what the chantry says? I will tell you why you should care, because Bioware leaves anything related to religion unrevealed and neutral, it could be true, or it could not, the maker may exist or he may not, this is called faith, and by saying the black city was never the golden city, pretty much contrasts everything the chantry says, and like I said, it is not possible.
@cameronpearce5943
@cameronpearce5943 9 жыл бұрын
Sweet
@silvereaglexi3888
@silvereaglexi3888 9 жыл бұрын
When you say "the Blight is inevitable" do you mean it's victory, do you mean that it will happen if the Archdemons are all slain even if they are slain in Old God form? That is the scariest thought of i've ever gotten from anything related to Dragon Age.
@LukaBlight69
@LukaBlight69 9 жыл бұрын
There are at least 2 Arch Demons left. A blight is inevitable, it's just a matter of how soon the Darkspawn find one. Or whoever awakens them(I doubt a random horde just finds one and knows what to do).
@silvereaglexi3888
@silvereaglexi3888 9 жыл бұрын
LukaBlight69 There isn't much to do because they already automatically dig in it's direction whenever they can, once they reach it they only have to touch it. So why couldn't a horde awaken it? They could also slay it before it awakens.
@ssmmav10
@ssmmav10 9 жыл бұрын
Are Solas and Felassan the same person? Is the end of Masked Empire Fen'Harel taking over Felassan thus becoming Solas?
@astrojeet
@astrojeet 9 жыл бұрын
Felassen has Valaslin, so they are most probably different people. Then again Solas can remove the Valaslin. Felassen is probably like Abelas was to Mythal, a servant of The Dread Wolf. We can be pretty sure about that. Whether the Dread Wolf possesed Felassen's body or not and then used his magic to remove the tattoos we cannot be sure about that. I'd like to think Solas is the Dread Wolf in the flesh.
@emerytharp6858
@emerytharp6858 8 жыл бұрын
Is this elven language the same as J.R.R Tolkiens? If not where in the world did you learn to translate this?
@halocrafter300
@halocrafter300 7 жыл бұрын
Emery Tharp nah. It would be blatant theft from Bioware if it was one of Tolkien's Elven languages.
@ShiroNeko_02
@ShiroNeko_02 9 жыл бұрын
can you post your videos withouth show the final bosses please i m in half of the game and was curious about your theorys, and now i saw all final bosses XD....its ok forgive it i will survive xD
@HendersonRickover
@HendersonRickover 9 жыл бұрын
thanks ashe love your channel is it just me or something ? is messed with solas ? iam on 2nd playthrough of inquisition as a dalish elven rogue and he is an asshole, when i did first as quinari female mage he was amazing kind and empathy,,, he pretty much sneers at me the whole time now he is a jerk whom i dont trust at all did you get that feeling when you played it ? if any other gamers have had simillar i would lke to know?
@jessiebelle613
@jessiebelle613 9 жыл бұрын
I'm really hoping he's a playful kinda trickster and not an evil trickster....>.> a girl can hope right?
@daca8395
@daca8395 8 жыл бұрын
Ar=I Ma=you.
@cartergabriel2696
@cartergabriel2696 7 жыл бұрын
is the elven language even real or did the developers just make the language up??
@PeskeyStrider2
@PeskeyStrider2 9 жыл бұрын
So if your inquistior is a elf, shouldn't he/she understand the conversation and find it odd.
@sagivalia5041
@sagivalia5041 Жыл бұрын
The inquistor isn't the sharpest tool in the shed, like any Bioware protagonist. From the get go Solas claims it is an artifcat that caused the Temple's explosion with no evidence and claims such knowledge after the fleeing of Haven, that one has to atleast suspect him to be related in some way. I doubt the common man will think that mages can't be powerful enough especially with the chantry drilling their minds with Tevinter magisters breaching the golden city and unleashing the blight or the infamous blood magic. Vivienne is the only smart one, quoting her "So much knowledge yet so little background"
@gygerguro
@gygerguro 9 жыл бұрын
Are you Dagna?
@bingus-kungus9436
@bingus-kungus9436 9 жыл бұрын
wtf was that 3:34
@lalaninja006
@lalaninja006 9 жыл бұрын
nice ^^ seems like a pain to figure out what they are saying tho haha
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