P Pump AFC Tuning Explained + Cheap Mods!

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HHK

HHK

4 жыл бұрын

Kicking off the channel with something easy and familiar for myself, but complex for others. I tried to keep things simple and direct without rambling, it ended up longer than I thought but I feel like theres lots you’ll learn!
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@keiferjanz3197
@keiferjanz3197 3 жыл бұрын
I think the afc live also utilizes a pressure regulator to set max fuel travel and the needle valve sets the fuel curve, how quick you can reach it. Really like 30$ in parts that they are making a killing on. Good on them for offering it first
@kdkid1998
@kdkid1998 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man, been following your IG for about a year now
@j.me.0311
@j.me.0311 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such an informative video!
@whiteygreene9796
@whiteygreene9796 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video, great information
@philhargrave5529
@philhargrave5529 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate! 🦘🦘 Great info
@eternalbeing3339
@eternalbeing3339 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video thank you.
@ceejaylong444
@ceejaylong444 2 жыл бұрын
It would be awesome if you could show us on a stock 12 valve what a good safe tune up for it would be and how to do it on the vehicle if possible
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 7 ай бұрын
I have it in my notes to make a part 2 to the AFC tuning video! I'll get on it!
@dakotaharrison8078
@dakotaharrison8078 3 жыл бұрын
Good shit! I’ve been doing this for years and that’s pretty much everything I do to hot rod a pump aside from a proper overflow valve, delivery valves, and timing. I will say that this is the first time I’ve seen it all in one place. 👍🏻👍🏻
@gregexline3067
@gregexline3067 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. Great video. Every time I start turning up fuel (sliding plate forward) I struggle with HIGH EGT's 1400 plus degrees. Haven't messed with the star wheel much. This is an 8.3 in my 18 ton RV. Can timing help with this?
@witcher71
@witcher71 3 жыл бұрын
Install a boost elbow on your wastegate. Sounds like you need more air for the added fuel.
@BackTo4chan
@BackTo4chan 3 жыл бұрын
this is a damn good video
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Tried to cover everything
@Sik5Pak88
@Sik5Pak88 Жыл бұрын
A quick vid of the Turbosmart mod would help immensely! The people need this! AFC live has its place in the market, but not my market. The $500+ price tag with accessories and such has me looking for alternatives. Being elbow deep under a hot hood to make adjustments is getting old. A quick turn of a knob to get similar results? Sign me up buddy I’ll buy ya a beer with $ I saved not buying AFC live
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge Жыл бұрын
I’m just working on getting the p pumped 6.7 12v going so my plan is to make a follow up video with tuning it as well as the turbosmart boost tee! However, I also have a product I’m developing that will allow you to electronically tune the AFC housing, no air line balogne or anything, but it may be several months out before it’s ready to sell. I may showcase it once I have a functional prototype
@rvdawg6231
@rvdawg6231 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, awesome video. I'm in California and am getting ready to smog my truck. It can't puff any smoke when started or when romping on it and letting off ( California's rules ). Would it not smoke If I add a turbo smart boost tee inline with my boost hose? And shut it off?
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge Жыл бұрын
That would help, you’d also want to pull the pre boost screw back
@pablomarquez4431
@pablomarquez4431 3 жыл бұрын
Hey.. So I have a weird situation. I bought my 12v with upgraded injectors. I didnt know what size they installed so I called power driven for a new set. They recommend 5x.10 vco. I installed them and I get a small puff of blk smoke. I want to increase the boost to help lean it out a little. Should I adjust the tension on the afc with the flat head like you did or add in the vacuum boost controller in line? Will that help my acceleration? It's slow off the line but feels good after 2k rpm.
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
You could pull back the Pre boost screw to limit low end fueling (get rid of the smoke) and loosen the star wheel to ramp in boost fueling more aggressively to counteract it being slow off the line
@houndsman406
@houndsman406 3 жыл бұрын
Good video !
@stevenowell
@stevenowell Ай бұрын
Nice, good to know
@chancewilson7123
@chancewilson7123 3 жыл бұрын
ever do the video on the turbosmart boost tee?
@dsadzaglishvili
@dsadzaglishvili 3 жыл бұрын
Whats gonna happen if that rubber diafragm is blown?
@paxnune6368
@paxnune6368 2 жыл бұрын
clear as mud
@sethspigelmeyer6414
@sethspigelmeyer6414 3 жыл бұрын
“As rpm increase’s. It takes more fuel to burn the air”
@bwalsh6992
@bwalsh6992 3 жыл бұрын
I have three 12 valve gatta learn to turn them up..
@mdevin8
@mdevin8 Жыл бұрын
Ok so my truck looses power at 2k rpms or full throttle I move fuel plate up and it doesn’t help. Only when kicked into od at 1500rpm and 1/4 throttle will it accelerate nicely. What would u do first ?
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge Жыл бұрын
I think the stock governor springs start to pull fuel at 2200rpm or somewhere around there, 2k is quite low… did you put the AFC full forward or mess with any other parts on it? Make sure the air reference to it is hooked up So you can do 2 things: 1. Check for boost leaks and make sure the air reference to the AFC housing is hooked up 2. Verify fuel pressure, and/or replace or modify the overflow valve on the p pump (search “pen spring mod overflow valve Cummins” in google)
@jasonwashburn5602
@jasonwashburn5602 3 жыл бұрын
you do not need to have a fuel plate in the pump right? that wont mess with anything if I just take it out rather than cutting it down?
@Banjoandguns
@Banjoandguns 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t had one in mine for years I haven’t had any issues from it.
@paytonharwood272
@paytonharwood272 3 жыл бұрын
I need to know what causes a rack to get stuck. The other day my truck just went wide ass open without my foot on the throttle.
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had luck with fixing pumps that have stuck racks. Typically it’s wear and foreign object damage (bad filtration), plus ultra low sulphur diesel doesn’t have any lubrication to it compared to the standard diesel fuel that these trucks burned when they came out. Helps to add some ATF or outboard 2 stroke oil to help with lubricity. Did you by chance have a rack plug and gov springs?
@sorehair7075
@sorehair7075 3 жыл бұрын
im thinking of going from stock injectors to 5x.012 injectors in my 12v. Would that be safe? would other upgrades be needed? Ive already done straight 4" exhaust and afe intake
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
Ya those would be a good upgrade over stock, just put in a EGT gauge and don’t over over 1200 degrees for long durations
@sorehair7075
@sorehair7075 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge thanks!
@xips420
@xips420 Жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you made the video about the turbo smart afc controller mod.
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge Жыл бұрын
I’ll write it down on my list of video ideas and see if I can get to it!
@hugohernandez5922
@hugohernandez5922 2 жыл бұрын
Ami no me está trabajando el avance q se puede Aser
@Banjoandguns
@Banjoandguns 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@gpv527
@gpv527 3 жыл бұрын
What size fender washer are you using to replace the diaphragm cup? I watched both of your videos that include information about the AFC mod and neither one tells what size fender washer to use when replacing that cup. I really DO appreciate the information you give out as I am new to modifying diesel engines (5.9L Cummins specifically), but have been a "gasser" technician since WAAAAY back :-). I have owned this 1998 Dodge 5.9L 12V 2500 Quad cab vehicle for 15 years and have finally tired of the lack of performance of the stock 180 HP/420 Ft LBS Torque engine setup. I have a 3500 lb truck camper that we have been carrying since 2005 and it really leaves a lot to be desired our west in the mountain areas. Your info is greatly appreciated. Also, how much do we need to pay attention to the EGTs after a mod that would up the power to around 270-285 HP? (Roughly the #5. 6 or 100 torque plate mod.) I realize this is a by-product of the amount of fuel being put into the engine, but how significantly does it raise the EGTs? Again, newby with diesel mods, so if the question is silly I'm sure you can understand.
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
1.5” OD, .333 hole ID (5/16?). I’ll put it in the description, I didn’t think to mention it! Always happy to put info out, everything I’ve learned is from some trial and error or a ton of hours on google researching things, so it helps to have it all in one place for people. I didn’t think this video would be this popular, but I don’t think anyone else spoke about how each change really translates. Ya these trucks are pretty gutless from the factory! After driving a modified one it’s hard to go back when it’s so easy to turn them up haha Putting in a “boost Tee” or “boost elbow” the raise the wastegated boost pressure to 35psi will yield some good gains (stock is 20-23psi?, 35psi is 100% safe on the stock turbo) as well as just moving the afc housing forward and adding a rack plug. I’ve always said that your right foot is the best controller for smoke and EGTs, so you can crank all the fuel up and everything but if you don’t put your foot to the rug then it won’t get hot. So on my personal truck i won’t go higher than 1200* for long durations (pulling a large hill for example), but it’s fine to step on it and hit 1400-1600 for brief durations if you’re racing someone or having fun haha! So I’d try a rack plug, 16* of timing, afc travel mod, leave the AFC in the stock location, or move it forward and pull back some pre boost fueling, and pump up the boost to 35psi and it should make a happy 300hp. If you want some extra insurance you can re torque the stock head bolts to 120ft/lbs, or get some grade 12.9 socket head cap screws from a nut n bolt store (search mighty diesel head bolts for a example) as a budget upgrade. Or go with ARP headstuds if you feel like spending some extra money. Lastly, a good shift kit and some raised line pressure goes a long way with keeping the stock transmission alive. As well as a upgraded trans cooler.
@gpv527
@gpv527 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge Thanks for your help!
@gpv527
@gpv527 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge I've been considering the retorque to 120 ft lbs and have a couple questions... 1. After removing and cleaning each bolt individually and lubing them with oil, do you take them down to 120 ft lbs all in one step? Saw one guy taking them to 135 ft lbs, but recommended 115, then 135 after all were at 115. So 120 would be all at one time if I only take them to 120 ft lbs? 2. The Dodge service manual has some screwy instructions, such as taking all of the bolts down, in sequence, to 66 ft lbs, then torque ONLY the long bolts (4, 5, 12, 13, 20 and 21 in sequence) to 89 ft lbs (Note that all of these bolts are on the intake manifold side of the head), and lastly tighten all bolts an additional 90°. This seems really odd to me being a gasser engine mechanic, where normally all bolts are torqued to the same torque in a sequence, then turning ALL bolts an additional 90°. Does this seem right to you?... some bolts (the long ones) being torqued to a higher value, then all bolts turned an additional 90°? This goes against everything I've ever experienced with torque on head bolts... Really appreciate your info! Thank you.
@justinpettersen7190
@justinpettersen7190 2 жыл бұрын
Subaru heads are torqued like this also, center bolts have more torque that the outside ones.
@bustayu
@bustayu 5 ай бұрын
Whats your web site?
@safetyfirstintexas
@safetyfirstintexas 2 жыл бұрын
What of the 10mm rack travel screw that sits on the housing opposite the mack 2mm extra cap? Whats its function?
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 2 жыл бұрын
On the very back of the AFC housing?
@safetyfirstintexas
@safetyfirstintexas 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge yes
@farmboysdelite
@farmboysdelite 3 жыл бұрын
I unhooked the egr valve wire on my 1998 12 valve and the check engine light came on. I now have to have it smog checked, so do you know how to reset the light after connecting the wire again? Thanks
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
Must be in California because I’ve never worked on a EGR 12 valve haha Just take the battery terminals off and let it sit for 5 minutes, then put them on and fire it up and it should clear the codes
@freedomfan2295
@freedomfan2295 2 жыл бұрын
If everything is tight the code should clear in about 50 miles. Failing that, your OBD2 reader should have a Clear Code button. ;) Is this the year the '98 falls off the smog inspection list?
@thenomad7120
@thenomad7120 2 жыл бұрын
If I just slide the fuel plate and the housing forward will I get any power gain?
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! I’m not sure on the specifics for how much power you will gain but it definitely wakes it up! You’ll love it!
@Aleasysn
@Aleasysn 3 жыл бұрын
Wish i could figure out my afc tuning, previous owner messed with the pump and its a train wreck. Belches black smoke even under full boost. Doesnt really light until 35-40mph and then once it gets into OD feels like it drops out until speed really gets up there like 60-65mph idk what i can do
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they loosened the star wheel a ton so it’s over fueling for the amount of boost you have You can also turn back the smoke screw (back of the afc housing, 10mm and Allen key) I would also check for boost leaks after doing the aforementioned fix
@Aleasysn
@Aleasysn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge sorry for the late reply i just rewatched your video again. Star wheel was under no tension as you stated. Also turbo was a box borg warner and not machined to work on a second gen dodge so i have fixed that its alot more drive able now. I was referring to your video as now ive advanced timing and upon looking at my afc it was gutted so got a foot for it and trying to get rid of the white smoke from unburnt fuel at idle, its worse in gear it clears up a bit when its warned up and goes away when driving but soon as i stop can just see white out of the exhaust. Not sure if there is a solution to it from the afc
@Hitman-ds1ei
@Hitman-ds1ei 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aleasysn just remember when your adjusting things to deal with white smoke, white smoke is incomplete combustion at low combustion temp not same as over fuelling which is black smoke, hence why they have heater elements in intake for cold climate starts
@Aleasysn
@Aleasysn 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hitman-ds1ei that is true, i switched out my DVs last weekend from full cuts to 055s its helped alot with the white when not under a load but now its a pain to start when cold, its so frustrating some times.
@brianconnor5213
@brianconnor5213 2 ай бұрын
No turbo smart boost t Video ? 😢
@j.b7382
@j.b7382 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man i gave a question. I have a 94 12 valve and when i put my foot on the floor it stutters and smokes white like crazy. But never smokes white other then that. Any idea what that could be.
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
Jake Baader likely slipped timing, does it do it no matter how hot? If so then that’s it, if it does it cold but not hot then it can be injectors
@j.b7382
@j.b7382 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it does it at any temperature. I always make it is warm before i drive it.
@ruxoneto6560
@ruxoneto6560 3 жыл бұрын
The adapter - fuel heatet between fuel filter &filter base gasket is bad &sucking air ,replace gasket or eliminate heater base.
@apolinarponce4506
@apolinarponce4506 2 жыл бұрын
What's the torque on the 12 nuts with red mark?
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 2 жыл бұрын
Well it’s a Bosch pump so I do German spec, Gut-N-tite! I think they’re like a M10 so I’d say 30-35 ft/lbs? I just snug it with a wrench (I like to change the nuts out to stainless nuts 1 at a time to dress up the pump)
@dsadzaglishvili
@dsadzaglishvili 3 жыл бұрын
What happens if U remove AFC and fill up governor housing with WD 40? Its gonna drain in oil pan or stay there in housing? I have some rust in it. Engine was submerged.
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
CLR works good at removing rust you just have to clean it out really good after using it. WD40 could help free things up but I’m not too sure if it will remove any rust.
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
Filling the gov housing will cause it to drain into the oil pan yea
@dsadzaglishvili
@dsadzaglishvili 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge i flushed engine a few times cause vessel was submerged so i needed to do so
@dsadzaglishvili
@dsadzaglishvili 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge Starboard side engine is surging or doesn’t start at all. What could be a reason? I checked governor springs and they look good but i didn’t check AFC springs i guess there is two of those. Any ideas?
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
@@dsadzaglishvili verify rack travel by removing the AFC housing and moving the throttle. There’s a square block that should move forward and back
@vorkski860
@vorkski860 2 жыл бұрын
Did you make a video on that boost t install?
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 7 ай бұрын
I havent but its in my video list, stay tuned for more!
@collintrail5959
@collintrail5959 2 жыл бұрын
Just seeking assistance the correct way in installing of a Cummins 8.3 fuel pump
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 2 жыл бұрын
Should bolt right up I would swap out the govenor springs for some 3000 or 4000 rpm ones as I imagine a 8.3 is governed pretty low
@The.psmith
@The.psmith 3 жыл бұрын
5500 on stock valve spring?? Sheesh. Lots of good information though! Thanks
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
Dub Nasty ya I’m not saying you should do it, but I did it 😂 4k is pretty safe on stock valve springs tho
@cubenitup
@cubenitup 3 жыл бұрын
Haha I run like 2000-2100 just o go barely 70 and I feel like she’s gunna blow. Couldn’t imagine 5500
@Duckys_world__
@Duckys_world__ 7 ай бұрын
Make sense ive been told losening the start wheel give you more power lol
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 6 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how much misinformation there is about things! A little good info goes a long ways
@BayWop
@BayWop 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like the guy from dirttrax tv
@apolinarponce4506
@apolinarponce4506 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy the afc houseing o ring
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge Жыл бұрын
Try a local diesel shop that works on injection pumps, or phone Farrell diesel, or remove the stock one and measure the diameter and see if you can just put a o ring in its place
@Killdozer_
@Killdozer_ Жыл бұрын
how to add fuel at high rpm? I don't have enough fuel at high boost
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge Жыл бұрын
Bigger injectors pretty much Or governor springs On the afc housing/p pump itself you can make a fuel plate that doesn’t limit in the top end but limits on the low end I need to make a follow up video
@garygeer7646
@garygeer7646 10 ай бұрын
Could N AFC cause a no ldle or fuel cut off below 1300 rpms? Thanks
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 10 ай бұрын
No, that could be low fuel pressure, bad overflow valve, or slipped timing
@garygeer7646
@garygeer7646 10 ай бұрын
@@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge new parts have been installed up to injector pump including overflow valve.
@garygeer7646
@garygeer7646 10 ай бұрын
Pressure going to injector pump is good. So that leaves timing issue you think?
@markduhrkopp1848
@markduhrkopp1848 3 жыл бұрын
24 VALVE ENGINE DID NOT HAVE A P PUMP WAS A V44 WHICH NEEDED A BETTER LIFT PUMP( ELECTRIC) TOO FEED FUEL
@white24valve
@white24valve 3 жыл бұрын
I see..and use 5150 myself!!!
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
DuraMAxFanatic stuff works awesome! I mix it to like 4L of water and drink it over the course of the day like a delux-coffee lol
@white24valve
@white24valve 3 жыл бұрын
@@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge yes sir!! Thank you for making this video for us! I have a light weight BD spring for the afc and Industrial Injection #6 plate to install. Then it will be .055 D.V.'s and injectors!!
@mesharky5524
@mesharky5524 3 жыл бұрын
Metallica playing in the background tho
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 3 жыл бұрын
Shhhhh I’ll get automatically copy write claimed 🤣
@coreyjohnston5962
@coreyjohnston5962 3 жыл бұрын
click click boom
@RipRoaringGarage
@RipRoaringGarage 2 жыл бұрын
My P pump has none of these things....Its so freakin old. Its from 69 or that era. No turbo on the engine, and I still cant find a manual on how to adjust fuel flow. It feels starved beyond 1st gear. WIll idle nice, has plenty of torque off the line, up to about 5mph...after that...slow. I mean sloow. Any incline, I have to drop back to 1st gear to have any shot of making it up. Im also freaked out about anything I do with it because there arent any replacements for this thing. Its a Romanian bus, the only functioning one of its kind left.
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 2 жыл бұрын
Shoot me a message with some pictures on Instagram I’d like to see this!
@marisolminacamacho509
@marisolminacamacho509 Жыл бұрын
Trasmitir a español
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 7 ай бұрын
Desafortunadamente no hablo español, pero parece que estoy recibiendo un buen número de comentarios en español, ¡así que tal vez debería aprender!
@traviskeller845
@traviskeller845 2 жыл бұрын
Do not buy cheap gov. Springs … he’s not right about the springs .. I’ve run the cheap springs and had problems with starting and driveability
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge
@Hazardous-Hotrod-Knowledge 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve installed close to 8 sets of $50 Amazon governor springs with no issues. If you’re getting “bucking” and starting issues it helps to add more tension to the idle spring, as well as adding a extra spring to the throttle return as it can make the throttle touchy
@godspowerobiajulu8547
@godspowerobiajulu8547 2 жыл бұрын
O my God, Sir this is my job, please help me to work in your office, I can do it very very parfait please help me Sir.
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