Interesting how Z1 didnt have a topic. he did mention in one of his streams that he wanted a drogoz buff considering how he's weak and too situational now

@@ingamesniperr faustian gambit is good for full teleport boosts so you run a loadout with max boosts whilst the rune is up

@@ingamesniperr With Fustian Bargain teleporting is not an option and tbh I like the talent cause it gives U boost with proper cards and items and playing a champion with 2 different styles is more fun than anything! Like flankers healing, Healers flanking and damaging, tanks flanking and damage flanking as well! The more diverse the game is the more fun it is to play it. That's all I can say XD

@@tre-moon-dous6122 oh well but that kind of goes in line with bitey who suggested projectile champion buffs

I want propose a rework for lex, retribution can be selected instead random combat slide can be use twice with cool down, maintain the cool down

But you know something I'm happy to finally see Buck getting played because he was never seen before. I hope they just add 2 or 3 seconds of cooldown to his heal and leave it be

@@yabbadabbindude nah fam let buck die he's too annoying ensnare is the only balanced talent that I dont mind playing against The leap that fucking leap cancels alot of abilities and ults its so op and the bulk up is a guaranteed sustain for 2 rounds straight

Wouldn't that lead to toxicity against the player that left?

How about get rid of bots all together and replace it with a steroid to remaining players of some kind. The game is already unfair at that point anyway so anything is better then having a bot hopping around in spawn

If their title disappears in-game, it means they're a bot. Not perfect since not everyone has titles equipped but I've found it useful

@@bastelbummi2204 lmao he already left, so how's it gonna be toxic?

@@bastelbummi2204 i mean people get confused if a player is a bot and be toxic to that player regardless for messing up their game

selling or undoing?

I hate it when I reconnect to a match and I quickly buy items. I often buy illuminate cuz I wanna get back to the battle basically. Happened so often.

Yah lie all the times I buy veteran instead of rejuvenate or illuminate instead of rejuvenate

I guess they can make it so you can do thi for only the first tier of an item which is normally the one you accidentally buy.

well said

Also Ash's Burst Cannon toggle thing never came out

Robles VS they didn’t go through with it because they did have the recourses do do it

@@kahllyah-gailsanchez1903 didnt they say it would come next patch

@@RoblesVS its COMING this Patch the toggle off

@@RoblesVS it did came out on pts try it

Bot buying items is soo annoying, rarely I'm fine with the purchase

Delyn XD only problem about auto bot buying items is that they can't predict how long the player will be afk/disconnected for, so if they don't buy any items at all it could be for the entire game that they don't have items

You guys know that you can turn autobuys off. Like entirely in the settings. I dunno where so you need to search a bit but it's there. I have done that over one and a half years ago

@@kride500 that's a totally different setting. It auto buys regardless of whether you're a bot or not. Turning it off wont matter if you're a bot

@@delynxd1580 the bot is rich tho lmao Buys things that u don't have credit for

Your name is perfect xD

@poto otop buffing totem hp is always good. And increasing healing numbers are good too. I don't see how this is horrible

Totally, my switch versions crashes every 2 matches and people report me every time without knowing it is not my freaking fault.

I wish they stopped at 100 also. I get people with level 341 on my teams and they clearly bought their levels a while back because they have the skills of a level 5 one. I just got 2 champs to level 50 and its been already 1 year of hard work, golden at 50 is nice but a reward at 100 would be better, specially now that you don't buy levels anymore.

Or make champions cheaper to buy in the first place. Racking up 60,000 gold was a pain in the arse for one champion

Alex its a f2p game. Gold literally has no other uses but for champions and some shitty decolora

weaBOO Spooky and that's fine. You don't need every character. half the roster gets fucked every patched so as long as you have two characters in each catagory, you'll be fine.

Platinum in Paladins means you are fucked You will be playing with silver and gm dont ask why its hirez logic

Well hirez is a small company and you need to think how much money and resources that will take , its not like blizzard , also they have a reasonable excuses for each one i think

@@wubbaduckx4286 lmao, no they dont. They don't even bother explaining to the representatives why they don't bother to change them.

@@wubbaduckx4286 i hate when people say that hirez is a small company as an excuse of their shitty game they just don't want to improve it and that's it i've been playing valorant lately and i can see my teammates ping and rank but i haven't experienced any kind of toxicity they are just making excuses not to fix the match making or any damn bug well imo this game will never make it i'm lvl 400 i've been playing for years now but now i'm just done with all the bugs and shit

@@mohnef9572 bruv the biggest problem with the game is that they programmed it with noodle technique, its a bad choice in the long term but they didnt know this back then. this is why its extremely difficoult for them make things right without messing up even more, the best would prbbly be rewriting the whole game but thats hella unrealistic ofc. next thing is, the programmers and devs. aint still the ones who made the game so they dont even know always where to start to solve a problem. i understand your frustration but programming is really hard and they dont have the money or enough ppl to do this kind of bug and game fixing quickly like the bigger games while designing and implementing new things (that they need to implement in order to keep us interested). its not so easy ok? try to program sth yourself and you'll see..

@@stanblank7579 Yeah his right. you better not complain shit about hirez cuz company is small (except ob64 ofcourse)

What do you mean by unhealthy

@@mochaanimations6166 Pip is supposed to be aggro support like Corvus or Furia. Combat Medic takes his dangerous and fun side and makes him a unreliable boring heal bot. You cant heal mobile allies, it hurts you when you heal close allies, hits everything including ( even friendly) deployables, it takes way too much skill for so little gain compared to other supports. Honestly, Pip in his current state is basically a high risk low reward champion with all of his talents.

@Lee McDonald It will be when they finally buff Pip.

i see why you say take away reload, but on the same token i think its use isnt just cooldown reduction, but to give you a 4k burst heal instead of 2k. so i think your idea could be alright but you would lose some burst heal. what i would suggest is that if they did use your idea, to make reload a card like mal dambas cooldown reduction card where if he misses the cooldown is reduced, because now if you miss a mega potion you gotta wait 8 seconds to get another out.

@Lee McDonald have you considered the fact that it hasn't been buffed in forever?

Khan exploit?

more details please :)

Actually no, that was brought up long before this meeting but let's keep that one quiet too please! xD

@@JayFlare132 gotcha, how long have y'all know bout this exploit?

He's talking about if you chose Lians shield talent then switch to Vortex grip you get to keep Both.

Lol yea. I went against a strix and an Imani. Instant death immediately....

Imani isn't as good as lian or cassie and she is not even picked too much in ranked games, she needs a sorta buff not much but a bit. Sha lin works the same way she is just a better sha in my opinion, there are champions that are worse to deal with than an imani her ult isn't even usefull anymore

@@cerenkale8151 , ture lian and cassie is better but i have more problems dealing with imani since she has way more utility than them , she has cc bomb that deals750 damage , vertical mobility , a freaking death ray that sometimes even pieces androxus reversal , and her fire balls has a 1000 damage with the aoe of mini skye ults and a passive multi shot ability which allows you to do 2k burst that is basically the death of most flanks , i find dealing with decent sha lin just as frustrating but imani is much more forgiving because of her aoe , her ult in my opinion is balanced but can get hard countered by bulldozer , and combo this with a champ like strix and you basically get one shot bursted around every corner, especially on frog isle

the not losing tp if you have a bot or a player leave is not practical. It will get abused by a team getting stomped and someone will just take the 5 minute ban.

"Rework that green thing in item store that no body uses" Im dying 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Lol imagine if a player leaves the whole match and the bot doesnt buy ANY ITEMS and doesnt use any ults Pls no Maybe a 3 to 5 minute windown, but nothing more

2 healer meta is aids most healers are broken rn, especially io and corvus, either nerf the healers or buff caut

even as a moji main, symbiotic is pretty nutty

Buck is a tank that can flank. That guy is fucking immortal

@@andreyu5640 they better not mess with my buck

You're crazy. Moji's self-sustain is still garbage.

@weaBOO Spooky they nerfed Jenos bc of Corvus since they both have similar healing abilities. Y u think Jenos' luminary talent and him got nerfed?

He was at the meeting but didn't have a topic.

I thought he would talk about remove buck 300 max health with bulk up talent, he already talked about it in his stream a lot

Yep

My bad, I think this was answered before

They should at least let you trade and epic costumization for an epic costumization, legendary for a legendary and so on. I have many skins from charcters i don't even use but would love to trade it with a friend that use those characters.

@@bryanmartinez419 yeah, me too. I have like 3 evie skins and makoa skins ...my friends would appreciatethem

Soul Collector is OP ,it's not "good"

@@andreyu5640 Oh I was constantly blamed for picking this talent for like eternity and now that nothing to it happened but it got more popular it suddenly became OP? Okay then.

Andreyu 44 soul collector is only good in low ELOs

@@andrewobrien658 LOL,ok

Not at the moment no. It's probably not something they'll change until the sustain meta is gone.

whats wrong with veteran? i would go to say its a bit underrated. with tanks it can really help if your support died. especially when you solo queue

@@clockwork6966 The problem with veteran isn't that it's "bad" but it takes too long to get out of combat and take advantage of it. Paladins is too fast paced for items that require waiting to kick in. And considering that you can easily be put back in combat if you just get hit by a single Viktor's bullet it's better to take literally any other green card for example rejuvenate will actually let you STAY in combat longer obviously assuming that a supporter pays attention to your health bar.

He said that there would have to be some sort of rebalancing thing in the talent, most likely reducing her firerate or damage, not sure. I do wish there was more of a reason to switch stances though, since right now I just play fire since it's all I really need. (also, nerf the size of her fully charged fireballs, they're way too easy to hit)

@weaBOO Spooky idk, I don't think dr is the way to go, and she already has cards that heal her and reduce her cooldowns.

bruh thats not true. he might be good if u can aim, but hes only outstanding if u rly got skill with him. and even then there are enough ways to counter him just like any other champ. the problem most ppl have with him in lower elo is that they just ignore him since he's so mobile. but against those enemies you can carry with any flank if you're good enough

exactly and yet they call him balanced.

@@stanblank7579 androxus is rarely picked in low elo but in middle and high elo any decent androxus will carry his team

@@samisarraj6968 just not. true he can do a lot of work but hes not unbeatable. i know it, i mastered the godslayer title two and a half years ago. for example, i got ranked in in gold this split. i carried a few games with andro to get out of there quickly. i had games with 31 kills and 3 deaths. but let me tell u this: i was completely ignored as a flank by the enemy team. they did nothing to stop me. i couldve done this with any flank. and thats because it was low elo, not because it was andro. and exactly thats the thing. with andro u only need decent aim to play him well (but u wont be outstanding), and thats the reason ppl think hes op. hes not. buck counters him. backline dps like viktor, lian, cassi or a sniper counter him. sha lin with desert silence counters him. jenos with power cosmeum counters him. vortex grip khan counters him. and you can 1v1 him with most characters if u can dodge the first shot and dont shoot his reversal. as soon as u picked 1 or 2 counters to andro he either dont attack them or he completely changes his playstyle. or hes just bad and dies and dies and dies. i once had a game with andro in mid/high elo (in plat 1) where the enemy picked viktor, kinessa and jenos. jenos didnt even use the power cosmeum talent. he just used his mobility to stay away from me while viktor held the right flank and kinessa was on the left, both with good sightlines to the point. they crushed our team on point and i wasnt able to flank them, because when i attacked vik i got sniped by kinessa and he finished me in one shot. when i tried to attack kinessa vik sniped me and i got finished in one shot. when i tried to sneak around and get jenos, viktor protected him and jenos worked with him together very well to kill me. it was one of my worst matches. because they knew how to counter trouble maker characters. and thats important if u wanna climb up. if u lose its because u made mistakes too, not (only) because your team is trash, and never because the enemy has an op champion. you can counter any champion in the game. any. i recorded that match to see what i didi wrong and how we coudlve won. i realized that they obv communicated with each other. so they were more flexible. but how couldve we countered their unflankable double backline dps? ill tell you: we couldve won, if our team satyed together instead of spreading out to both flanks with the tank on point. against this strategy there is only one counter: group tf up, go wit all 5 ppl on one flank, tank first, then the flank, the healer, the dps or how u want. but tank first. and then get the fcnvikto or kinessa and hild this flank. and only go to point after u killed at least 2 of the enemies. ok i didnt want to lecture yall or to write such a massive text but i got frre time rn and i guess it wont hurt u to learn sth new, especially about androxus lol. last tip: play him. if u understand androxus' kit, you'll get a better feeling how to play against him. gl

@@stanblank7579 what I recommend when fighting a good andro is just run towards your nearest teamate. He might over extend and die.

With burst meta you could kill something at least, now against 2 supp and buck everygame its like you are fighting 5 tanks who never die till you have caut 3

It's not the heal in buck that is a problem, it's the dr, and this is coming from a buck main

@@A8D0 with burst meta you could kill everything in 2 seconds. Now fights actually last longer

Ikr? The only supports that got buffed after the caut nerfs are Furia and Mal’Damba, I don’t get the argument that ALL supports need to be gutted again. People really be complaining about healers being the problem when characters like Viktor and Vivian are running around with 20+ lifesteal and DR 🤡

This meta is way more fun, maybe just time to bring down the damage reduction and life steal cards

and bring back aggression instead xD

Wait, when did I say they thought CC was fun?

Supercellol bitte was?

@@JayFlare132 Keeping the maximum CC resistance at 60% kind of implies that they don't consider CC heavy teams to be an issue. I mean, these teams might have an exact 50% winrate, but to me something being unfun is just as much of an issue as something being unbalanced.

Nobody said CC is "fun" but it can't be completely nullified by just one item. I still remember how laughable was Pip's ultimate when every tank had 90% cc reduction built in the loadouts.

@@Yomush haha classic Tank back in the day

One of the best suggestions I have heard. Maybe start with a 4, 8 and 12 reduce cooldown for healing to test it out.

Right as a blaster, you're living a great thing.

Just pick Lian or Cassi and melt him, that's all you need to do. He's got a big hitbox and a small health pool. You can out-range and out DPS him with either Lian or Cassi

@@xXSpaceMexicanXx Or Snipers

just pick buck ffs andro takes skill diferent from 90% of chars in this game let the edgy boi be

Edgy people must keep their toy otherwise they won't buy stuff in game

counters to andro to help u a lil bit: offtanks (especially khan) power cosmeum jenos backline dps like viktor, lian, cassie, sniper buck tiberius since his sword goes through his reversal and slows you for like 60% for 3 sec if u wanna ensure the enemy andro cant do anything most lf the time get 2 backline dps, like one tgat can rotate easily like vik and one sniper or whatever and just shut down both flanks with LoS to the point. protect each other when one gets flanked a d he always has either to trade 1v1 or to retreat. or he just dies.

He is the only champion in the game who can carry a team on its own. He is busted

@@andreyu5640 there is plenty if others, I quite often carry games as buck

@@Toiletstainz buck dosent have the potential to carry like andro. there is no way. Buck cant delete tanks like andro, buck dosent have no way near a good mobility like andro. Buck poke dmg is a joke comparing to andro poke. The only thing buck is better is his sulf sustain which will be nerfed next patch btw.

@@andreyu5640 a good player should be able to carry a team of bad players.

@@Inviabledude45 yes,let's forget that it's a team based game

Agree

@Lee McDonald I chuckled reading this Mana Rift description. As Mana Rift Imani main, this is too accurate. Thanks for making my day. But I disagree with your description. Fire stance is single target/burst stance designed to perform at very close and very long ranges, while ice is mid-range stance with crowd control and good AoE capabilities. Fire stance is good at close range because it's extremely easy to hit with her projectiles, and it's better than ice at long ranges due to same reasoning. It's purpose is to burst single specific person down, which is true with both LMB, it's clearcast, and RMB. While it is true that RMB can apply damage to multiple target, the main purpose of piercing is that your RMB cannot be bodyblocked by tanks while you try to melt single specific person behind them. Ice is mid-range because of few things. Firstly, her Frost Bomb's damage depends on how long it flies so the full damage cannot be applied at close range. The clearcast icebolt also doesn't generate mana if your target is within 80 units, which encourages you to stay past close range as well. And because those projectiles are very slow, they aren't performing as well as Fire at long ranges. It is also better at AoE - the bounce is very strong, and Frost Bomb is designed to deal damage to people clustered together, which combos well with the bounce. Which is why I think that fire-only talent should boost her single target capabilities instead of making it another AoE stance. I always thought that weaker version of Strix's Crack Shot would work wonders here. I understand the concept of current Pyromania - if you hit someone twice with LMB, you can then finish that person behind a corner by hitting nearest wall. It can work but I feel like just a small single target damage boost would help her do the same but more consistent. What they want to do with Pyromania doesn't make much sense to me.

I dont get what problem you have with that. Meave isnt that bad atm and the fact that street justice requires 0 skill is frustrating for players (which EM doesnt want...) makes it a valuable topic for aoc.

Just imagine a mave player camping in a corner behind a wall emoting to see in third person waiting for someone in the backline to get low to use all his abilities to get in press a right click and get back to that corner :)

Street Justice is her lowest winrate talent as it is. Might as well delete it from the game if they're gonna nerf it.

Meave's nerf is completly understandable knowing you don't need any skill to succesfully use street justice. Besides, console representatives are never taken seriously by hi-rez for some reason so bringing up topics on community favorite characters is the only way to get hi-rez's attention.

That would require rewarding players for being positive. Commendations are a step in the right direction but it's not really enough. Something like the "honor" system like there is in league of legends could maybe work if the player would get rewarded with some non-exclusive things (exclusives could lead to "bullying" for commendations) for keeping up a high honor level say a small amount of crystals for example. And punishment for getting reported for toxicity (of course excluding false reports) like lowering the end of match rewards or outright disabling them until the player gets back to "neutral" zone. Maybe even pair them with people who are also in the "non-honorable" zone to kind of giving them a taste of their own medicine.

They should just eliminate the chat in post-match and just leave the pre-match chat for startegizing. People write hate comments because they want everyone to hear them speak, they just want atention. I mean if you want to abe toxic about a free to play game you might ass well unistall it.

The problem was all the Limited skins say Limited on them, so it's clear that they're Limited. Grohk's said Epic on it and then after it was gone it said Limited. So it was just sprung onto people when it was already too late.

Not every tank deserves it though. Atlas, makoa and fernando defenitely, they have forgotten about them completly. Khan, barik and terminus defenitely not, their self sustain and damage is still a problem.

@@bryanmartinez419 Barik isn't even that good now without bowling ball.

True I guess

Stun damba didn't like that

True

Yeah Makoa hook is only op in Pro team on casual players its meh, Khans grab is more impactful and powerful and it is almost the same to the hook. They should buff the dmg on his hook and shellspin so he have more dmg option, their dmgs are very laughable I wonder why it even exist.

This proves how much of a joke Paladins' competitive scene is.