I jus got a sundown x10 going o that 2500 American bass

The problem is companies keep funding China while our economy is waning. More and more money is printed to help our economy but it isn't going into our economy. China has over the years backed manufacturing into a corner to the point where damn near everything is made in China and they keep getting richer and stronger because of it.

That's why I like how DD does it. They clearly tell you what subs are made in America vs made in china.

@@toddspraker8916 so true

@@toddspraker8916 if the usa inflated (printed )your bitcoin wallet willie nilly as they wish. you wouldnt tolerate it.... fearing imprisonment you might find alternatives . your statements are partially untrue and true... your larger concern is right on though. Since the USA does print inflate the dollar, we must as producers find alternatives to value cost cut here and there everywhere and oh wait this cheap labor exist overseas. that if we dont take advantage of our competitors will and win the markets with value more products (read cheaper). anyway this is one of many reasons why china makes everything. in this analysis our own government hobbles us.

@@shanecunningham6082 you're right. Our politicians have caused this. They've been selling America out for years. We need term limits but it's really hard to get people (congress) to make a vote to lose their gravy train. The reason manufacturing left is on our politicians. There's no reason that anything we buy overseas couldn't be manufactured here. Same thing happened at the beginning of covid with medical mask shortages. No reason we couldn't make our own masks here but our so called leadership thought it best to rely on China for everything. If we did our own manufacturing this could have been avoided altogether.

that amp seems VERY under powered for this sub, unless this dynos much higher than 2k? Generally, D4S is pretty accurate with their actual output.

@@LTSRIDE24 under powered? Sundown specs at 2000rms . I have it wired to 1ohm. D4S JP23 specs at 2800w RMS at 1ohm… it’s on money…as sundown underrates it’s subs approx 500w this is per a sundown rep on phone 2years ago. Williston Audio labs on KZfaq did an amp dyno on the JP23 and confirmed this output at 1ohm. Additionally D4S will warranty for a fee .5 ohm loads on the same amp. This amp is a beast. And performs. Sub hits hard, I keep voltage stable at 14+ volts with a big 3 upgrade and 2- Platinum AGM Batteries, H9 Group Size, 950 CCA, 1000 CA, 100 Amp Hour Capacity within 2’ of the amp and a 125a output alternator.

put that sub on a smart 5bass or 2 on a smart 8bass.....c'mon you know you want to

I'm trying to figure getting the 1 or 2 ohm with that jp23. Having amp running at 1 or 2 ohm is the question. I'm noob, leaning towards running at 2 ohm to ease electric, will I still have awesome bass compared to your 1 ohm running jp23 amp? Thanks!

@@Nathan-wf1pr run it at 1ohm of course.. the newer version of jp23 is much more powerful. You'll need electrical upgrades. But the sub will love it

What's the best amplifier to use for this sub v3 12 inch I currently have a power 1000 Rockford series. Need your recommendation thank you

@@vicp2572 3k minimum. Taramps Smart 5 MD5k etc would be what is go with

How do you like them so far? I was thinking of getting two of these. But I'm also interested in the zv6

@@superior3384 what did you end up getting? i’m also looking at both right now

@Kyle nice i used mdf 3/4 and subbox pro went to home depot with dimensions and had them cut it..got 30% off each board as i needed 2...my first box for single sub 3.0 cubic ft 1board...but its better then 300 for a custom box...got a zigsaw from amazon amd gonna return it ...so all together mdf terminals screws and pl glue im less.then 85 bucks.im on.a taramps smart 3

Deaf Bonce FTW!!

😬

Same. Have a DB-SA305 and a X15 v2. Power wise the DB takes it all day but you can't beat the lows the X gives.

@@ParkerTheBasshead all day!!

@@jimmybass7595 what frequencies?

Did you ever meter it

Be quiet.

This is only true in car audio not with Pro Audio or Home Audio like to move from a 600watt sub to 1000watts costs $600-$3000 and that sucks home audio is even worse 😑 but yeah man working my ass of to get a DD815 and later a Sundown X15

I got 4 dc level 6 18s I paid almost 1,400 for each sub 😳‼️ but also make a decent amount of money 💰 🤣

@Kyle if Dayton was cheaper in my country id say hell yeah but no so instead im using one of my DD715S as my home audio sub.

@@kgj7102 truth hurts? Go ahead and STFU now.

Oh nice I’m near Boone! Not far from you at all

Yup. Just picked mine up today in Vegas at D4S. Says assembled in USA also with cardboard. Heavy as f@$k lol

You understand economics do you, you clever son of a bitch

I actually have 4 Xv2 15's also and I personally wouldn't switch.... 155+

Which amp are you using to push your 4 15s?

@@JourneywithJones the sfb8k atm. Will swap to the 13.5k or 2 8ks

Why do you need a big enclosure? X series were designed to be low end musical monsters in small or large enclosures.

@@xchimnyx correct they were designed to be able to play in smaller enclosures butttt if you truly want to get the max performance from your woofer then even as it says on sundowns site "can be up to 50% larger than spec enclosure" and that extra box will get you lower, deeper and harder hitting bass!!!

@@kevinAuman1 my box is like 3.7 cu for my x12s has a good bandwidth and does well on meter

@@jacbybentril7114 yes I too have a comp box for subsonic suicide with two X12's built and upgraded by Dave Lieb with zv5 and nightshade parts and the box is 4cu with a 3 and a half ft long 8in aero port and let me tell ya it is VIOLENT but the reason I went smaller in this case is so I can throw a ton of power at them and there is almost no impedance rise at all lol I'm wired series/parallel dual 2's to a 2ohm final and full tilt it only rises to 2.3ohm meaning I'm able to efficiently utilize each and every available watt now if I only had like a 5k amp I'd certainly have built around 5 or 6cu and tuned just as low but I'm happy doing a 151.6 at 28hz with just a pair of 12's on 9k cased lol and if you know anything about tuning and box building you know that is incredible for such a low frequency now if I wanted to tune to 33hz I'm sure I'd he able to smash near mid 50's burping... but I like my lows and don't really care about much else 🤣🔊🔊🔊 hence the reason I compete in subsonic suicide

you are waaaaay underpowered. Either upgrade your amp or just run (1) sub on that 5k & you will be dialed in much better!

@LTSRIDE24 got it wired to .5 ohm and it pushed them fine. I got 4 now in a 6th order B pillar wall on a jp 83 at .5 and it gets down.

@@kylekatz7837 very nice! Do you have any pics online?

I didn’t get anything besides the sub too, I was looking forward to that D4S shirt

did it come yet?

@@nikolatata69 yeah finally!!!

WTF

​@@tim9928yes it's a year later, but I bet it wasn't fresh when you got it. Lol pretty funny comment!

No American subwoofer is made in USA anymore they all sold to China or other places. Sadly kicker did the same so kicker isn't USA made anymore . My l7t is proof

I just put 2 of them in a gately 5.5 cubes on a taramps 5k bass. Got to put in the xs power batteries and finish running some wires. Cant wait to hear it.

@@kylekatz7837 We're gonna want demos. 😅

@@kylekatz7837 dude you paid that asinine amount for a prefab just build your own

@@GTILOUD that was to just get me started. I built a 6th order B pillar wall for 4 of them

DD is the shit, although I recently switched to B2 Audio and have never been happier. The Rage 12 XL is a beast!

Yeah the zvx might look similar to the x series but I can assure you from 1st hand experience owning both that the sundown is far far superior and worth paying more for....

@@kevinAuman1 really? That’s good to know. But what about the u series, how would u compare those to the zvx. I’ve had them and loved them, but now I save two sav2 and they just not on the zvx level. So I’m trying to upgrade

@@kevinAuman1 I have some ZVX 15's and i like them but they dont hit the lows as hard as my old american bass. Looking to switch to some X15's soon

@@RIDofU84 yeah the U series are basically designed more towards an SQL not SPL woofer much like the SA series they geared more towards sound quality than all the extra excursion in X series moves alot more air and take more power so all they did on the U series was combined the two so now you've got a sound quality woofer that is able to handle more power... I had 4 Sa15's on two skar sk3500.1's strapped and it did a 153.7db daily on music in a reg ported enclosure/no-wall setup and I had incredible bandwidth too I was able to slam 25hz and flex my entire vehicle, do hair tricks and also if I played 70-80hz it was equally as painfully loud now there were two sweet spots one at 38hz and one at 55hz both those freqs were where I peaked and I could lift the hat right off your head lol

@@kevinAuman1 awesome. I think I’ll get two u12’s now. The sa sound good, good bass but when some songs go low they sound like they just can’t make it. I would get the x series but I was told they are basically only good for altered music like chop n screw. So if I want more power and a hit a little deeper I should go the U series. I know a guy sells them for 400, 450 for the x. And z series for 750. My Sa’s were on a 2700 watt amp and they blew twice.

It's a great amp

I mean zv5 coils have been known to take ungodly amounts of power. Granted, it's still limited as it's a 3" coil. But for what they are, they're nuts.

@@xchimnyx indeed lol they've literally cooked eggs with them and boiled water lol the coils are able to withstand 500*F which is Ludacris if you know anything about building woofers... Most will crap out at around 250-300*F but not sundown with an American made PE coil....

I used to daily a zv5 15" on a sfb8000d @1ohm.. never metered actual rms but battery stayed at 15v soft clipping so I'm pretty sure I got all the power out of the sfb8k. Might need to get one of these xv3's very soon.

I bought a cheapo dual temp meter w 2 probes w long wires and stuck in the side vent close to the coil but not touching The meter was like eight bucks and I know if my subs temps are rising towards 100° I'm cooking them & they'll be stinking soon. I would hardly call it necessary but I like data The more data the better always

​@@kevinAuman1yep i have temp meter for my subs and who knows how accurate the temp actually is I jus know when the meter reads 100° or above I'm cooking them and I'll be smelling it any second

Ahhh interesting!

@@ParkerTheBasshead My Z series subs say USA on the box and on the subs

@@ParkerTheBasshead also for the rms test of subs, you could use the bass beat tracks???

They should be cheaper if you get the made in china box 🤣🤣 Gladly pay the price if it says made in the usa.

I know right!!

Mr green is a sizest 😂

For sure bro. Ive had many setups. For the price ct sounds is a excellent choice as well as sundown

Agreed, I just bought a tropo 15 for $99 shipped and it sounds incredible I was blown away literally by how great the sou d quality is for such a cheap entry level woofer! Granted I own sundown Xv2 15's and deaf bonce apocalypse DB3515'S Addictive Audio V4 15's but when I got offered a discount from CT to buy a 15in 650wrms woofer for under a hundred bucks I couldn't say no! Now CT has a bad rep for customer service but the 1st sub arrived with a rusty chrome motor that actually shifted during shipment and they had zero issues replacing it and had new one sent out the very same day!!! Already have it in and playing and it sounds great, I may even try to recone or fix the bad one then have two budget 15's

Those red oval JL boxes were the shit. I wonder if they are still around anywhere...hadn't seen one in years!

how did that go ?? about too buy 2x of the xv.3 12s for my build and run in a 5.3cuft enclosure ?? do they smell after abusing the shit out of them or nah as im about too feed 7kwrms through 2 and want too k ow if i should go with these or 2x deaf bonce apocalypse 12s instead just here in Australia subs are getting quite scarce and need too get 2 anyway for june this year for a comp.coming up

@@kruger2511 Yes, mine are doing fine,, beating the hell out of my truck 😁😁😁 the v3s are rated 2K RMS so that's 4,000 watts if you're pushing more than 5 000 w or so to them you're going to burn them up,, also you got to make sure they're not getting a clipped signal! That will burn them up too 😳

@@davidlieby3616 i was planning on feeding 7k rms through a pair of them in a 5.2 5.3 cuft enclosure using 2x vibe black death bass 1s version 1 with 4x agm cells but looks like instead of strapping amps for the 7k rms ill be running them individually instead 1 ohm load @ 2250 rms but obviously wont be getting that after bnox rise etc so should run good and wont be feeding a clipped signal at all thanks for the info anyway as over here in Australia theres fuck all info for them except the fact they are 2k rms aha

What’s up!!

You read my mind💪

Jacob, had it metered yet in its current configuration?

@@RAW_Reality I haven't because Noone has a meter in my area to test it. A buddy of mine said it feels like a strong 158 to him but my box is alot smaller than it should so I expect 160s when I build the 4th

@@optionstrader9637 All that cone area, I'd believe it... Best of luck with the new build, and hope you get yours 60s.

It's a catalog sub. Those and Platinums are decent for what they are, but there isn't real R&D behind them.. Teams are inefficient trash.

Why do you prefer the u's

Yes the good ol days. 160 was the price. And even the 8 was around 115.

Definitely not made in Florida but North Carolina where sundown is located lol

you get what you pay for so

@@kevinAuman1 sundon isnt based from california lmao

@@timmythurman8801 well where in the fuck are they then China 🇨🇳

This I didn't know. Because my x12v2 coil is glossy black and made in America

​@@Carnage488 mine is made in China🫣😥

?????

Yet I can get a 320 amp for a 2006 scion an it’s a brick on wheels it’s gonna be fun if I blow up my evl on that alt and a jp23 v1.5 lol

500 watts aint gonna make a difference

​@@chefbgordon8892 I have a '06 scion xb , where did you buy a bigger alternator for it? Can I run jp23 1 ohm on stock alt with extra battery in back? Thanks!

I’d get a 3500

I can’t wait either!!

idk.. twice the price

It's 11.1 so that should be good